Liberals - They Walk Among Us!

[codeman]

They Walk Among Us

I was at the checkout of a K-Mart. The clerk rang up $46.64 charge.
I gave her a fifty dollar bill. She gave me back $46.64. I gave it back
to her and told her that she had made a mistake in MY favor and gave her the
money back. She became indignant and informed me she was educated and
knew what she was doing, and returned the money again. I gave her the money
back again...same scenario! I departed the store with the $46.64.
...............They Walk Among Us and Many Works Retail.


I walked into a Mickey D's with a buy-one-get-one-free coupon for
a sandwich. I handed it to the girl and she looked over at a little
chalkboard that said "buy one-get one free." "They're already
buy-one-get-one-free", she said, "so I guess they're both free" She
handed me my free sandwiches and I walked out the door.
...............They Walk Among Us and Many Work Retail.


One day I was walking down the beach with some friends when one of
them shouted, "Look at that dead bird!" Someone looked up at the sky and
said, "Where?"
...............They Walk Among Us!


While looking at a house, my brother asked the real estate agent
which direction was north because, he explained, he didn't want the sun waking him up every morning. She asked, "Does the sun rise in the north?" When
my brother explained that the sun rises in the east, and has for sometime ,
she shook her head and said, "Oh I don't keep up with that stuff."
...............They Walk Among Us!!


I used to work in technical support for a 24/7 call center. One day I
got a call from an individual who asked what hours the call center was
open. I told him, "The number you dialed is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week." He responded, "Is that Eastern or Pacific time?" Wanting to end
the call quickly, I said, "Uh, Pacific."
..............They Walk Among Us!



My sister has a lifesaving tool in her car designed to cut through a
seat belt if she gets trapped. She keeps it in the trunk.
...............They Walk Among Us!


I couldn't find my luggage at the airport baggage area, so I went to
the lost luggage office and told the woman there that my bags never
showed up. She smiled and told me not to worry because she was a trained
professional and I was in good hands. "Now," she asked me, has your plane
arrived yet?"
.......They Walk Among Us!



While working at a pizza parlor I observed a man ordering a small
pizza to go. He appeared to be alone and the cook asked him if he would
like it cut into 4 pieces or 6. He thought about it for some time before
responding. "Just cut it into 4 pieces; I don't think I'm hungry enough
to eat 6 pieces."
...............Yep, They Walk Among Us!



They Walk Among Us, AND they vote, and WORST OF
ALL............they reproduce!

[atomicbloke]

What does anything in this have to do with liberals?

[codeman]

What does anything in this have to do with liberals?

Absolutely nothing. I just figured it'd stir up some of the libs that seem to need something to jump on.

[mosca]

Back! Troll!

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[Atlas]

Absolutely nothing. I just figured it'd stir up some of the libs that seem to need something to jump on.

Your party sucks dude. Nothing but old, perverted, war hungry, child molesting, crooks. But they love god so it's all good..... Did I mention they were also hypocrites?

[codeman]

Your party sucks dude. Nothing but old, perverted, war hungry, child molesting, crooks. But they love god so it's all good..... Did I mention they were also hypocrites?

My party? You don't know what party I'm affiliated with. You only make assumptions based on what I argue about on this board.

You don't have to be a republican to argue with the mental midgets here. all you have to do is disagree with their basic far left politics.

Get a grip on reality here dude, you don't know WTF you are talking about!

[Hotrod]

I actually had something like this happen to me this weekend. I bought a bottle of water at a gas station. It was like 1.89 I handed the young (yes blonde) girl at the counter a 5. She tried to give me back $18.11. I said wait I only gave you 5 bucks. I need $3.11 back. She argued with me and acted like I was pulling some kind of stunt. Even mentioned getting the manager from the back. The person behind me said "just leave dude". I said that I really should but would feel bad because the girl would probebly be responsible for the shortage in her drawer. At this point the girl is completely flustered and trys to give me not only the $18.11 but an additional $3.11. Ha!

Finally she got it and I left but Im thinking her job is gonna be a short term kind of deal.

Weird.

[Crushaholic]

The public school system needs to get back to the basics...reading, writing and arithmetic.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The public school system needs to get back to the basics...reading, writing and arithmetic.When did they leave it? Public schools now teach far superior academic classes compared to when I attended.

[TailgateNut]

The public school system needs to get back to the basics...reading, writing and arithmetic.

Do you have any children in school, or could this just be hot air excaping from your pie hole?

I still have one child remaining in school and she is in advanced classes. I guarantee she IS learning "all of the above" and more. It's a matter of parent participation!

[Hotrod]

Do you have any children in school, or could this just be hot air excaping from you pie hole?

I still have one child remaining in school and she is in advanced classes. I guarantee she IS learning "all of the above" and more. It's a matter of parent participation!

Agreed my oldest is a junior/senior and will probebly graduate early. Maybe even this year. Shes already taken/earned college credits. Its ALL on the parents and who the kids choose as their friends.

[Atlas]

My party? You don't know what party I'm affiliated with. You only make assumptions based on what I argue about on this board.

You don't have to be a republican to argue with the mental midgets here. all you have to do is disagree with their basic far left politics.

Get a grip on reality here dude, you don't know WTF you are talking about!

Hey anytime I can bash injustices and bash Repubican TROLLS I do it!!!

Now run along junior and go fluff your grandpa.

[Garcia Bronco]

political parties are the disease of a democracy

[alkemical]

political parties are the disease of a democracy

"there's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated" - NOFX

"majority rule, don't work in mental institutions" - NOFX

[Bronco_Beerslug]

political parties are the disease of a democracyThe alternative is?

[TailgateNut]

The alternative is?


Bush's Dictatorship!

[W*GS]

When did they leave it? Public schools now teach far superior academic classes compared to when I attended.

Either you're very lucky, or your education really sucked.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Either you're very lucky, or your education really sucked.My education was fine but my kids has been vastly improved. More variety of classes and an improved curriculum.

[alkemical]

I dunno....

I got tired of the school system. I learned about more or less the same things every year in history/gov't. Math's changed, so did sciences. But from my POV it was more about memorizing material & giving the teacher what they wanted, not actually using your brain.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I dunno....
I got tired of the school system. I learned about more or less the same things every year in history/gov't. Math's changed, so did sciences. But from my POV it was more about memorizing material & giving the teacher what they wanted, not actually using your brain.The school and teachers make a difference. I had great teachers growing up and my kids, for the most part, did too.

[Orange_Beard]

What does anything in this have to do with liberals?

Hey pea brain, have you ever heard your great conservative president speak?

These all sound like things that W would do or say.

[W*GS]

My education was fine but my kids has been vastly improved. More variety of classes and an improved curriculum.

I've seen the exact opposite - both of my daughters have had serious problems with school. Too much repetition and an unwillingness by their teachers to accommodate their needs. No, they are not special education students.

[alkemical]

The school and teachers make a difference. I had great teachers growing up and my kids, for the most part, did too.

Eh, yes to a degree. If you are counting the school district as part of the school (unsure of where you define that) - i may beg to differ in some areas.

I asked why we didn't have any history from WWII on up. We didn't cover 60/70/80s when i was in school. I asked why we didn't learn about vietnam. or our own countries political & social climate through that time (since, alot of teachers i had lived through that period of time) and i was told the school board didn't approve.

It made me feel cheated. I didn't know about kent state until my mom told me about it, etc. Stuff like that. In some ways, it felt intentional that we weren't educated on 30 years of history, that was more "current" than the damned pilgrims & indians or columbus. Or the axis powers, etc.

I understand WWII is important, but TONS of stuff happened and the school district i was in didn't find it approriate to teach.

[alkemical]

I've seen the exact opposite - both of my daughters have had serious problems with school. Too much repetition and an unwillingness by their teachers to accommodate their needs. No, they are not special education students.

That's what i ran into Wags. I felt like (suprise!) when you went outside of the box, it was more like punishement via bad grades or "public" ridicule (making an example, etc).

Granted, i do have an authority-complex - and i did (for better/worse) at times push the boundries - but really - BS is BS. I mean when the teacher's edition of a book is the authority of knowledge for "some" teachers, how good is that?

"In 1888, the Senate Committee on Education was getting jittery about the localized, non-standardized, non-mandatory form of education that was actually teaching children to read at advanced levels, to comprehend history, and, egads, to think for themselves. The committee's report stated, "We believe that education is one of the principal causes of discontent of late years manifesting itself among the laboring classes."

By the turn of the century, America's new educrats were pushing a new form of schooling with a new mission (and it wasn't to teach). The famous philosopher and educator John Dewey wrote in 1897:

Every teacher should realize he is a social servant set apart for the maintenance of the proper social order and the securing of the right social growth.

In his 1905 dissertation for Columbia Teachers College, Elwood Cubberly—the future Dean of Education at Stanford—wrote that schools should be factories "in which raw products, children, are to be shaped and formed into finished products...manufactured like nails, and the specifications for manufacturing will come from government and industry."

The next year, the Rockefeller Education Board—which funded the creation of numerous public schools—issued a statement which read in part:

In our dreams...people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions [intellectual and character education] fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, educators, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians, nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have ample supply. The task we set before ourselves is very simple...we will organize children...and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way." (http://www.thememoryhole.com/edu/school-mission.htm)

[W*GS]

There's a strain in libertarian thought that views the public school system as little more than indoctrination - more suited to turning out assembly-line lowest-common-denominator proles than anything else. I do believe that public education is more suited to Industrial Age skills than the current economy...

[alkemical]

There's a strain in libertarian thought that views the public school system as little more than indoctrination - more suited to turning out assembly-line lowest-common-denominator proles than anything else. I do believe that public education is more suited to Industrial Age skills than the current economy...

This i wholly agree with.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I've seen the exact opposite - both of my daughters have had serious problems with school. Too much repetition and an unwillingness by their teachers to accommodate their needs. No, they are not special education students.That's too bad. Both my daughters had very good teachers. Non-regimented, bright and caring. One was asked to move to gifted and talented curriculum and did, for awhile but returned to her regular classes after a few months. She said those classes were regimented.

When I went to school we had OCR (outdoor classroom) in elementary school (first 6 years). Hanging out in the big Cottonwoods and on the grass" next to the creek gettin schooled" was great!

[W*GS]

Both of my daughters have been identified as TAG - both were moved from kindergarten into 1st grade, then onto 3rd grade, having skipped 2nd entirely. Thus, each have been accelerated two years.

My older daughter ended up homeschooling the 2nd half of 1st and 4th grades, because the teachers and administration were unable to help. The TAG coordinator at their school has been a total effup - she's a drain of oxygen. My wife and I have spent dozens of hours meeting with the school's staff, administration, and researching how best the school can meet our daughters' needs, to pretty much no avail. We're guessing that one or both will end up back at home, homeschooling, at some point this year.

[Crushaholic]

When did they leave it? Public schools now teach far superior academic classes compared to when I attended.

This article, as well as others, says differently...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20070410-9999-1n10college.html

What students learn in high school doesn't match with what they need to know as college freshmen, according to a national study released yesterday.

Professors believe high school teachers should cover fewer topics with more depth to prepare students for college. That is one of the findings of the survey by ACT, a nonprofit educational and testing organization.

“A really common complaint from (college) faculty is students not being able to put together a complete sentence properly,” said Erin Goldin, director of the Writing Center, which provides tutoring at Cal State San Marcos.
“When students come in here, . . . I try to explain the rules, but they don't seem to have learned the structure of a sentence.”

ACT officials said now is the time to bring this gap to the forefront, as many states are working with college professors to refine what should be taught in middle and high school.

The ACT survey, which was completed by 6,568 middle and high school teachers and college faculty nationwide, showed disagreements in virtually every college-preparatory subject.

In writing, college instructors place more emphasis on the fundamentals – basic grammar, sentence structure and punctuation – than their high school counterparts.

High school teachers valued exposure to advanced math content to a greater degree than college faculty, who placed more emphasis on understanding the fundamental underlying math skills and processes.

High school teachers rated knowledge of science content as more important than understanding the science process and inquiry skills. College faculty valued the reverse.

Both groups agree on the critical reading skills needed to enter college. However, the survey found a general lack of reading instruction in high school. More attention to reading complex texts is needed, according to the study, not just in English and social studies, but also in math and science.

ACT officials say the study suggests the culprit is partly state-adopted academic standards in English, math and other subjects. Often those guidelines are not aligned with what colleges expect students to know as entering freshmen.

Three-quarters of high school instructors believe that teaching their state's standards does prepare students well, but only one-third of college instructors agree, said Cynthia Schmeiser, president and chief operating officer of ACT's education division.

In the past, colleges were generally not involved in the creation of state standards, Schmeiser said. However, that's beginning to change.

“We have over 30 states engaged in alignment efforts that have brought not only K-12 to the table,” Schmeiser said, “but postsecondary education and business.”

Jack O'Connell, California's superintendent of public instruction, described the state's standards as “world class” and a model for other states. Higher education experts had a hand in their development, he said.

Ethan Singer, associate vice president for academic affairs at SDSU, said he believes if students mastered the standards they would be unlikely to require remediation at a CSU campus. However, performance on standards-based statewide tests indicate that students have a long way to go.

Fifty-three percent of San Diego County's students scored below proficient in language arts on the California Standards Tests, while more than 56 percent of local students lagged in math, according to results released in August.

Many of these students end up in college unprepared to do the work. Nearly one-third of new freshman required remedial help in English at San Diego State University in fall 2006, for example, while half were unprepared in the subject at Cal State San Marcos.

In recent years, the CSU system has partnered with the California Department of Education to offer an assessment for 11th-graders that gauges college readiness. Students who fall short, said O'Connell, have time to master the necessary skills before they attend a university.

CSU spent about $5 million last academic year on that program and other intervention efforts, such as training for high school teachers and online tutorials.

Glen McClish, professor and chair of the Department of Rhetoric and Writing Studies at SDSU, said high schools spend too much time on poems, novels and plays. He would like to see students get more exposure to writings on economical, sociological and political issues.

Principals say the ACT survey is yet another educational body making demands on overloaded high schools, each with its own take on what students should know. It can be dizzying.

La Jolla High Principal Dana Shelburne said there are expectations from the California State University and University of California systems, the private colleges, the state and federal government, parents and political and philosophical groups. Simultaneously, schools are also expected to do everything from feed and clothe students to provide remediation and pave the way to athletic scholarships.

“We're drinking from something of a fire hydrant,” Shelburne said. “Information and requests come out at us in such a flood . . . What a high school graduate is supposed to know to satisfy all the stakeholders is a question that has yet to be satisfied in my estimation.”

Dan Daris, principal of El Camino High School in Oceanside, said there's some truth to the report's findings.

“I've heard the statement many times that the English standards are a mile wide and an inch deep,” he said.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Both of my daughters have been identified as TAG - both were moved from kindergarten into 1st grade, then onto 3rd grade, having skipped 2nd entirely. Thus, each have been accelerated two years.

My older daughter ended up homeschooling the 2nd half of 1st and 4th grades, because the teachers and administration were unable to help. The TAG coordinator at their school has been a total effup - she's a drain of oxygen. My wife and I have spent dozens of hours meeting with the school's staff, administration, and researching how best the school can meet our daughters' needs, to pretty much no avail. We're guessing that one or both will end up back at home, homeschooling, at some point this year.I feel sorry for the kids. Maybe look for a private school that will fill their needs is an option. I refused to let my oldest daughter's school advance her a grade in 4th and again in 6th. She was happy I did. All kids are different though and can have different needs.

[c_lazy_r]

I always wondered why they never taught us about "real life" stuff in school. Simple things like buying a home/car, investing, etc.

[REB]

I went to grades 1-7 in Delaware and I was a B-C student depending on the subject. We moved to Pennsylvania before the start of 8th grade. Well 8th grade began and I aced all my subjects and remained an honor-roll student in H.S.

The deal was that the school in PA. was teaching in 8th grade and H.S. what I had already learned in DE. The only thing new I remember learning in H.S. that I hadn't learned before was some algebra and a little geometry. So it always seemed to me H.S. was pointless. It would be a lot better if they concentrated on preparing these kids for college and the real world.

[Spider]

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[W*GS]

I feel sorry for the kids. Maybe look for a private school that will fill their needs is an option.

We've looked into that - the big problem being the expense, of course, and the other being that private schools aren't necessarily any better at dealing with TAG kids. I'd hate to spend $20k/year and find out that things are no better. My wife is on a couple mailing lists for parents of TAG kids and there have been quite a few stories about families that have uprooted themselves (changing jobs and moving) to get their TAG kids into an allegedly excellent private school and things just don't work out. That's a huge problem, to say the least!

I refused to let my oldest daughter's school advance her a grade in 4th and again in 6th. She was happy I did. All kids are different though and can have different needs.

That's the problem - public schools are more or less one-size-fits-all, and kids aren't like that. Another issue is the regimentation by age - if you think about it, why can't a 7-year-old be in 4th or 5th grade, if they can do the work? Yes, there are issues with socialization and so on, but parents should play a big role in taking care of them.

There's an excellent report called "A Nation Deceived", at

http://www.nationdeceived.org

that details how TAG kids are screwed by the public schools - to their own great detriment as well as to the detriment of our society.