Fantasy Draft - I got the 10th pick in a 12 team league

[freak6]

I'm stoked about my drafting position. 1-2-3 is great, but after that I feel the next 14 guys are all close and I am getting 2 of them.

My draft is tommorow and I am so hyped. I'm just using this thread to throw put some ideas into bytes and think this out.

At 10 I have targeted these guys to be availible, and this is how I rank them.

10 Travis Henry (RB DEN)
11 Rudi Johnson (RB CIN)
12 Willie Parker (RB PIT)
13 Reggie Bush (RB NO)
14 Maurice Jones-Drew (RB JAC)
15 Laurence Maroney (RB NE)
16 Ronnie Brown (RB MIA)
17 Willis McGahee (RB BAL)

The only one that should be gone after my pick at 10 and then at 15 is probably Bush and Johnson. I'll probably go with Henry, and Maroney.

Jay Cutler is my guy in round late round 5, unless there is a run on QBs and I'll take him in the 4th if I have to. But I expect him to be there in the 5th as this is just some random $100 league through sportsline.

Thoughts? Rankings?

[Paladin]

You sure gonna tear that one up, there, bubba.....

[MileHighMania]

Is this a standard redraft league, starting 2 RBs? Is there anything different regarding the scoring, PPR, etc?

We have rankings, schedule breakdowns and other items on our site under the "ARTICLES" tab, it's all free.

http://www.pigskinsanity.com/2007articles/2007%20Redraft%20Rankings.html

Henry and Maroney would be fine targets without question. I like Cutler as well, just don't get too crazy drafting with your heart.

[bfoflcommish]

freak...what happens if Manning is available???

lol

[MileHighMania]

You didn't ask me the Manning question, but I wanted to respond.

Outside of the 2004 season, I haven't seen too many teams that won their league by drafting Peyton in R1 of a 12 team draft. I'm sure it's happened thanks to trades, surprise players doing well, etc.

But, I'll never take a QB that high. I think you sacrifice entirely too much at RB. I've seen teams be more successful by waiting until round 4 to grab their QB. If you can spend those first 3 rounds getting either your RB, WR, WR or RB, RB, WR ... I think you're better off.

I'd target a guy like Bulger this year - that Rams' schedule is a joke and he's in a contract year with a ton of weapons. Bulger's ADP is mid R4 and while he may not be Peyton, he can be damn close and you will have much better talent at the top of your RB / WR charts.

Just my $.02

[freak6]

freak...what happens if Manning is available???

lol

That's a good question. I am hoping someone takes Manning before me at 10. I am committed right now by round:

1. RB
2. RB
3. Javon or another RB
4. Gates or RB WR
5. Cutler, WR or RB

But if Peyton was there at 10, I'd have to resist. At 13, I'd take him though. He won't be though. It's all about the + - differential he is going to give me over another QB vs the + - of a RB in round 1 vs round 5.

I feel Cutler will go for 3500 and 25 tds, not that much difference imo. But Cutler is more prone to injury for sure.

The scoring is 6 pts for TDs running, and Passing, so QBs are not handicapped.

[freak6]

Losing out on Addai and Westbrook sucks though.

I actually think that LT is a clear #1, Steven Jackson and LJ at #2, and Westbrook and <b>Addai tied at #3.</b> All of them are gonna have great seasons I think.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I have a feeling Leinart is going to put up some descent numbers as well and is also a pick that can be made later. I like all of your running backs but Maroney, and that is just an injury concern.

[freak6]

I have a feeling Leinart is going to put up some descent numbers as well and is also a pick that can be made later. I like all of your running backs but Maroney, and that is just an injury concern.


Yeah, Maroney has a dinged shoulder, but that offense is gonna score a ton of points. He should be fine for training camp. At RB, injuries are gonna happen, it's a roll of the dice no matter what.

I'm trying to understand why I, and everyone else is so hot on Reggie Bush though. Very risky pick.

Leinart is a solid backup QB, if I totally load up on RBs and WRs and someone snakes Cutler in round 5, I'd look at Losman, Leinart, Rivers, and Trent Green in round 7.

[freak6]

Reggie Bush in Dec had 5 games, 234 Rushing Yards, 5.1 avg, 5 TDs, 311 recieving yards, and 2 rec TDs.

hmm...

[Dendave]

Your draft is tomorrow? Hope no one you draft gets hurt in the preseason...

[400HZ]

What do you guys think about Shaun Alexander this year?

[Mediator12]

I'm stoked about my drafting position. 1-2-3 is great, but after that I feel the next 14 guys are all close and I am getting 2 of them.

My draft is tommorow and I am so hyped. I'm just using this thread to throw put some ideas into bytes and think this out.

At 10 I have targeted these guys to be availible, and this is how I rank them.

10 Travis Henry (RB DEN)
11 Rudi Johnson (RB CIN)
12 Willie Parker (RB PIT)
13 Reggie Bush (RB NO)
14 Maurice Jones-Drew (RB JAC)
15 Laurence Maroney (RB NE)
16 Ronnie Brown (RB MIA)
17 Willis McGahee (RB BAL)

The only one that should be gone after my pick at 10 and then at 15 is probably Bush and Johnson. I'll probably go with Henry, and Maroney.

Jay Cutler is my guy in round late round 5, unless there is a run on QBs and I'll take him in the 4th if I have to. But I expect him to be there in the 5th as this is just some random $100 league through sportsline.

Thoughts? Rankings?

What rules are you using that Johnson and Parker are out of the top eight in ADP? Every credible mock I have seen and every ADP I have seen has both gone before 10. Very interesting.

[freak6]

Your draft is tomorrow? Hope no one you draft gets hurt in the preseason...

Well I wanted an early draft so I can steal Jay Cutler before he removes any doubt in the pre-season.

It's risky for sure, but teams are very careful in the preseason. L.T. had like one carry last preseason!

I am down on Shaun Alexander. I wouldn't take him with my 10th or 13th pick.

I think he's got alot to prove coming back from that broken bone in his foot. To go along with Hutchinson leaving, I was very disapointed in him last year.

[freak6]

What rules are you using that Johnson and Parker are out of the top eight in ADP? Every credible mock I have seen and every ADP I have seen has both gone before 10. Very interesting.

I expect someone to take Manning in there, pushing them down. Possibly Marvin Harrison as well. You're right though, both of them won't be there. One should be there at 10. I'm really really am high on Addai!

[Jens1893]

If you work the waiver wire well, my experience is that you can usually get a decent QB who will put up decent stats for you later in the season anyway. I have rarely finished a season with the same QB I started it with.

[freak6]

If you work the waiver wire well, my experience is that you can usually get a decent QB who will put up decent stats for you later in the season anyway. I have rarely finished a season with the same QB I started it with.

Last year I stole RB Jones-Drew off the waiver wire. I'm all over that thing.

[Jens1893]

Last year I stole RB Jones-Drew off the waiver wire. I'm all over that thing.

I started the season with Frye and Bledsoe at QB and ended it with Cutler, Campbell and Tony Romo. I didn´t have a whole lot of depth, so when guys like Bledsoe, Plummer and Brunell started to struggle, I took a flyer and it paid off.

Although I did release Romo the day before he was made the starter as Ben Raffleticket had just been knocked out of the game v the Falcons for Charlie Batch as I thought Parcells was too stubborn to bench Drew. Got him back 3 weeks later for Trent and Ahman Green tho. :~ohyah!:

The guy first offered me Jamal Lewis and Romo for S-Jax and TrINT, countered with Ahman and TrINT for Romo and he went for it. My jaw dropped when he accepted my counter offer.

[NFLBRONCO]

Who would you pick at #2. Steven Jackson LJ Alexander

[Jens1893]

Who would you pick at #2. Steven Jackson LJ Alexander

S-Jax without a doubt

[ward63]

S-Jax without a doubt

I have to agree! In Linehan's offense, he works well and I was grateful enough to get him in the 3rd round last year:)

[Jens1893]

I have to agree! In Linehan's offense, he works well and I was grateful enough to get him in the 3rd round last year:)

Were you playing in a 4 team league?

[freak6]

Who would you pick at #2. Steven Jackson LJ Alexander

I'd go with Jackson over L J but it is really close. I give the edge to SJ now because I don't know who the Chiefs are gonna start. If they go with Huard, I'd take L J though.

Alexander isn't even in the conversation, Addai and Westbrook are going to have huge seasons, in fact, <b>I think Addai has about a 50/50 chance to be the best RB in fantasy.

[Mediator12]

Last year I stole RB Jones-Drew off the waiver wire. I'm all over that thing.

Addai is a stud that I would take before Gore this year. He has no one even close to pushing him on the Colts roster and they put up 1800 rushing yards, 76 receptions for 560 yards, and 13 combined TD's between them. I really think he will have huge early value as teams try once again to make the Colts try and Run to beat them. Also, they are one of the only offenses to come out of the gate at full speed against defenses.

BTW, the dumbass you took Jones-Drew from the Waiver wire was me in the OM league ;D Worst FF mistake I have made in years....

[Jens1893]

Addai is a stud that I would take before Gore this year. He has no one even close to pushing him on the Colts roster and they put up 1800 rushing yards, 76 receptions for 560 yards, and 13 combined TD's between them. I really think he will have huge early value as teams try once again to make the Colts try and Run to beat them. Also, they are one of the only offenses to come out of the gate at full speed against defenses.

BTW, the dumbass you took Jones-Drew from the Waiver wire was me in the OM league ;D Worst FF mistake I have made in years....

Really don´t understand the love for Addai, but that might have to do with my dislike for the Colts.

Have to admit I am rather shocked to see you are such a Fantasy geek, Med. I´d have put you in the FFL hater camp.

[DomCasual]

Were you playing in a 4 team league?

With two of the other owners not having watched football before?

[That One Guy]

Losing out on Addai and Westbrook sucks though.

I actually think that LT is a clear #1, Steven Jackson and LJ at #2, and Westbrook and <b>Addai tied at #3.</b> All of them are gonna have great seasons I think.

I'm continually warming up to Addai more but I just don't have the warm & fuzzy for Westbrook. I'm not sure why but I just don't want in.

[BroncoBuff]

I'm not familiar with your league rules ... looks like RBs are far more valuable than QBs. I always play in leagues where RB and QB are equally valuable.

The question I have is whether it's a Denver league - whether guys are Broncos lovers. If so, steer clear of them because they'll be over-valued. Guys like Tom Brady and LJ will help you win and be more available in that case.

If it's not a Denver league, wait til the second round on Travis Henry! Nobody will take him in the first round unless they're a Broncos fan. Period.

[MileHighMania]

Henry's ADP is R1P11 for a 12 team draft... he has been going anywhere from 8th overall to 14th in most leagues.

[freak6]

I'm not familiar with your league rules ... looks like RBs are far more valuable than QBs. I always play in leagues where RB and QB are equally valuable.

It's a standard cbssporsline league.

Regular scoring.

qbs and rbs get 6 pts per TD, some leagues only give 4 pts for a pa td.

[minibronco]

Don't we have a fantasy football forum? :/ I thought we did....

Looks like you're a believer in the Running Back Stud Theory. You're right in that if you're going to draft a running back early you might as well draft two or three and dominate the field; unfortunately, you are picking 10th and there's not much 'stud' left then.

http://www.kffl.com/article.php/73820/500

[ward63]

Were you playing in a 4 team league?

No it was 12, but nobody in the league wanted him and I got a steal:)

[ward63]

I'm hoping to get Henry and somehow Jackson this year, but I highly doubt it.

[BroncoBuff]

Broncos will be GREATLY undervalued in a cbs league. Henry will DEFINITELY be available in the 2nd round. In fact ... I guarantee it.

Just like a real draft, you gotta play the value game. Take somebody else in the first round - watch what happens. Unless one of those jokers lives in Denver, you'll have Henry PLUS another first-rounder ... I guarantee you.

[saleen s28one]

i hade the 10 pick in my draft i drafted henry then on the way back i drafted westbrook!

[broncogary]

Like everyone said, it depends on the league scoring rules. In my league last year, I had the second pick and took Manning. I took Reggie Bush later, and though he didn't put up much in rushing yards, he was a consistent scorer, because in the league I'm in, he got one point for every reception, regardless of the yardage. He was a sure 15 points every week, when you added in receiving and rushing yards, and return points.

[skunk]

yeah you should definately pick that many broncos... its always good to pack your roster with players from one team. classic strategy. good luck and dont forget to name your fantasy team "the denver broncos".


:afro:

[MileHighMania]

The only way you could guarantee that Henry will be there in R2 is in an 8 team draft... http://www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com/completed_drafts.php

I know they're mock drafts, but the data should be used as a guide. Henry is late R1.

[gunns]

You didn't ask me the Manning question, but I wanted to respond.

Outside of the 2004 season, I haven't seen too many teams that won their league by drafting Peyton in R1 of a 12 team draft. I'm sure it's happened thanks to trades, surprise players doing well, etc.

But, I'll never take a QB that high. I think you sacrifice entirely too much at RB. I've seen teams be more successful by waiting until round 4 to grab their QB. If you can spend those first 3 rounds getting either your RB, WR, WR or RB, RB, WR ... I think you're better off.

I'd target a guy like Bulger this year - that Rams' schedule is a joke and he's in a contract year with a ton of weapons. Bulger's ADP is mid R4 and while he may not be Peyton, he can be damn close and you will have much better talent at the top of your RB / WR charts.

Just my $.02

I agree with you on Peyton and the RB's. But I disagree on the RB, then WR. To me WR's are a dime a dozen and a relatively low scoring position when compared to RB's and QB's. I'll stock up on RB and then QB. The QB will get up more yards, thus more points and they get a TD whenever that WR or TE gets one or they themselves get one. Plus the fact a good WR will be covered more, i.e., I took Harrison at the top of his game several years ago and while he made incredible plays, it was few and far between.

I have had Bulger as my top QB pick the last 3 years and he has gotten me beau coup points, except when he gets injured. I always took him in the 3rd or he was gone. A little leery of him this year though as he has talked about holding out. I doubt he will but players can do strange things. I will probably still go after him though as I agree on the weapons he has.

That being said, the one RB I won't touch this year is LJ. I believe his performance in that playoff game last year is a protender of things to come with the O line.

[MileHighMania]

I think the philosophy early on depends on the size of the league, starting lineups, how many WRs do you start and is the scoring PPR.

I drafted a couple of different ways last year... but my one constant was waiting until R5 or beyond for my QB. In a PPR league, if you start 3 WRs and your 2nd round pick is late... then it's not insane to take a WR, then on the turn take another WR.

It just depends on the flow of the draft (how many good RBs are off the board) and what best fits your scoring. WRs are very deep, but there are a number of decent RB options for you in the middle rounds and I'm not going to take a guy like Lewis over a quality WR just to get my #2 RB.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Best advise is dont drink during the draft. Last night I ended up with 6 (Cutler, Walker, Bell, Shef, Elam, and the Def.) bronco picks.

[That One Guy]

Best advise is dont drink during the draft. Last night I ended up with 6 (Cutler, Walker, Bell, Shef, Elam, and the Def.) bronco picks.

Were they value picks or homer picks? Cutler, Walker, Elam, and the DEF could definitely be every week starters. While still risky, I've won with such strategies before. It really bites you in the backside though if you went homer to pick em and passed on better talent.

[MileHighMania]

You should never have that many from any team...

[Atlas]

Never done FF and never will. If I did I would select all Broncos.

[TheChamp24]

Reminds me of one time my fiance did a fantasy basketball league with her sister and dad. She ended up trying to get a team of all former Mavericks, it was kinda funny.

I do know now though not to use my homerism to get a RB. I thought it was crazy how early Mike Bell went last year. After he got named starter, he was getting picked as early as round 3 I think.

[Arkie]

You didn't ask me the Manning question, but I wanted to respond.

Outside of the 2004 season, I haven't seen too many teams that won their league by drafting Peyton in R1 of a 12 team draft. I'm sure it's happened thanks to trades, surprise players doing well, etc.

But, I'll never take a QB that high. I think you sacrifice entirely too much at RB. I've seen teams be more successful by waiting until round 4 to grab their QB. If you can spend those first 3 rounds getting either your RB, WR, WR or RB, RB, WR ... I think you're better off.

I'd target a guy like Bulger this year - that Rams' schedule is a joke and he's in a contract year with a ton of weapons. Bulger's ADP is mid R4 and while he may not be Peyton, he can be damn close and you will have much better talent at the top of your RB / WR charts.

Just my $.02


I won my hometown 14-team league last year. I drafted Manning first, and I was the only guy that didn't have a RB after two rounds. I drafted Holt in the 2nd. Then I drafted 3 straight RBs--Lewis, Dunn, and Mike Bell. I was lucky enough to get Baltimore's defense around the 10th round after 6-7 defenses were already picked. Manning and Baltimore carried my team.

[freak6]

Joseph Addai people.

If you land him you are probably getting the best player in fantasy.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Yea I know I shouldnt have that many today just didnt pay attention to it then I averaged a shot a pick. I got Cutler in the 7th walker in the 4rth denvers def in the 8th elam in the 12th shef in the 14th m. bell in the 15th both of whom will probly be dropped. Oh and I got Addai.

[CoMoChief]

I'd take Maroney. I have a feeling he's gonna put up some major numbers this season considering the talent NE got in this offseason. Defenses are gonna have to focus on more than just Brady and Maroney, but now with Moss and Stallworth in the passing game, that's just gonna open holes wide open for Maroney. NE already has a good Oline.

[freak6]

I'd take Maroney. I have a feeling he's gonna put up some major numbers this season considering the talent NE got in this offseason. Defenses are gonna have to focus on more than just Brady and Maroney, but now with Moss and Stallworth in the passing game, that's just gonna open holes wide open for Maroney. NE already has a good Oline.

Definitely. I have Maroney targeted at 10 with Henry. I have Maroney 6th overall on my board.

[Jens1893]

If Maroney´s shoulder holds, definitely. I got him at 12 in our mock last night.