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KCbroncos
07-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Didn't see this posted already. It's Monday and I'm not thinking but who am I missing ahead of Elway. Montana, Rice, Payton, and Jim Brown are probably obvious. Is the other Slasher Simpson, Hornung?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-07-16-no-6-john-elway_N.htm

John Elway's legacy was winning, but it wasn't till the end of his career that he became a champion. The NFL record holder for most victories by a quarterback, the Broncos signal caller retired on top following his second straight Super Bowl title after the 1998 season. Elway now lands at No. 6 on USA TODAY's list.

With his especially powerful, accurate arm (300 touchdown passes) and his excellent mobility (33 rushing TDs), Elway led the Broncos to just two losing records in his 16 seasons.

Drafted first overall by the Baltimore Colts in 1983, Elway forced a trade to Denver, the only team for which he would ever play. He went on to become the first quarterback to pass for 3,000 yards and run for 200 yards in seven consecutive seasons. When he retired, he ranked second all time in completions (4,123) and passing yards (51,475) and third in touchdown passes (300).

MOST WINS BY A STARTING QUARTERBACK
Player Wins Team(s)

John Elway 148 Denver

Brett Favre* 147 Green Bay

Dam Marino 147 Miami

Fran Tarkenton 125 Minnesota, N.Y. Giants

* active


While he also owned the record for most times sacked (516), Elway's calling card will always be his knack for leading come-from-behind drives. He retired with an NFL-record 47 drives that won or tied games in the fourth quarter.

The most famous may have been "The Drive," a 98-yard romp against Cleveland in the 1986 AFC Championship Game that tied the game with a 5-yard TD pass to Mark Jackson with 39 seconds left. The Broncos went on to win 23-20 in overtime.

"There was a mind-set that when we started coming back late in the game," Elway once said, "until the clock said 00:00, we really felt that we've got a chance to win those games."

Said his former coach, Dan Reeves, who led the Broncos for Elway's first 10 seasons: "When the game was on the line, he was like Michael Jordan — he wanted the football. In those situations, I don't know if I know anyone that did a better job of handling that than John did."

Three Super Bowl appearances early in Elway's career ended in defeat, but his fortunes changed when the Broncos defeated the defending champion Packers 31-24 in Super Bowl XXXII. That contest was punctuated by Elway's helicopter-style hurtle through the air for a key first down that led to a Broncos touchdown in the third quarter. Then Elway led the Broncos to back-to-back titles in Super Bowl XXXIII, his final game, which culminated in his MVP performance in the 34-19 win over the Atlanta Falcons.

"I think probably the thing that I am most proud of is that I was able to hang in there long enough to win a couple of Super Bowls," Elway said after being elected to the Hall of Fame in 2004. "That was definitely the highlight, the thing I am most proud of."

ABOUT JOHN ELWAY

Born: June 28, 1960, in Port Angeles, Wash.

College: Stanford Drafted: No. 1 overally by Baltimore Colts in 1983 (then traded to Denver)

Teams: Denver 1983-1998

Pro Bowls: Nine

NFL MVP: 1987 Super Bowl MVP: XXXIII

Member: 1990s All-Decade Team


Sources: Pro Football Hall of Fame, USA TODAY research

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• The list covers the past 25 seasons. Instructions to panelists stated that if a player competed in any one of those seasons, then the player's entire career could be considered for the rankings.

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KCbroncos
07-16-2007, 01:23 PM
Sorry, here's the list so far.

6 John Elway Elway left NFL as a winner

7 Emmitt Smith Emmitt Smith surpassed all runners

8 Ronnie Lott Lott made waves with hard-hitting style

9 Tom Brady Brady climbed fast to Super heights

10 Barry Sanders Sanders left them wanting more

11 Dan Marino Marino re-wrote the NFL passing records

12 Peyton Manning Peyton's place secure in NFL annals

13 Anthony Munoz Munoz set standard on the O-line

14 Brett Favre Favre made Green Bay important again

15 Bruce Smith Smith sacked his way to the top

16 Deion Sanders Deion played his way into 'Prime Time'

17 Mike Singletary Singletary renowned for intimidating presence

18 Ray Lewis The ultimate defender — Ray Lewis

19 Marshall Faulk Faulk brought double threat to new level

20 Troy Aikman Aikman rescued 'America's Team'

21 LaDainian Tomlinson Tomlinson still climbing list of NFL greats

22 Rod Woodson Woodson set new standard in backfield

23 Terry Bradshaw Playoff success carried Bradshaw into Hall

24 Steve Young After wait, Young made lasting run into NFL history

25 Eric Dickerson Dickerson blazed early path to NFL immortality

broncosteven
07-16-2007, 01:29 PM
Montana will win another stroke job.

How far back is this supposed to go? 25 years 50 years all time?

Funny how the old names drop off as time goes on.

I would put Jim Taylor over Golden Boy FYI.

Circle Orange
07-16-2007, 01:31 PM
Will someone PLEASE explain why the wins list only includes regular season??? The last time I checked, playoff wins lead to super bowl titles...its like an excuse to make some other guys on the list look better. Marino didn't finish well, and its painfully clear Favre won't either.

Remember when Montana was better than bananas and sex?

KCbroncos
07-16-2007, 01:33 PM
Just realized it's in the past 25 years. So Montana, Rice, Payton, Lawrence Taylor??, and ?

To commemorate USA TODAY's 25th anniversary, a panel of USA TODAY's NFL reporters and editors has produced an anthology of the 25 best NFL players of the past 25 years. Working down from No. 25, we are unveiling one player each weekday until training camp season arrives:

crowebomber
07-16-2007, 01:54 PM
[QUOTE=KCbroncos;1647771]Just realized it's in the past 25 years. So Montana, Rice, Payton, Lawrence Taylor??, and ?

I'd say Reggie White.

KCbroncos
07-16-2007, 01:59 PM
[QUOTE=KCbroncos;1647771]Just realized it's in the past 25 years. So Montana, Rice, Payton, Lawrence Taylor??, and ?

I'd say Reggie White.

You're right. I thought of that after I posted, though I can't see how White, LT or even Payton should be ahead of #7. Rice and Montana, maybe??

crowebomber
07-16-2007, 02:02 PM
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You're right. I thought of that after I posted, though I can't see how White, LT or even Payton should be ahead of #7. Rice and Montana, maybe??

LT maybe because he changed the position. White and Payton get some RIP sympathy votes so that's why they went ahead of Elway.

The funny thing about the list is that there is only one WR (Rice assuming he'll be in the top five) on the entire thing. No Art Monk, Irving Fryer, Michael Irvin, Ashley Lelie .... ;)

freak6
07-16-2007, 02:13 PM
If it wasn't for Tito Paul, John Elway would be ranked below Marino!

More importantly...

<b>How many Chiefs are on the list???

BWAA HA HA HAAAAAA

</b>Maybe if they expanded it to top 50!