View Full Version : Is Champ Bailey going to follow Lee Evans wherever he lines up?
On the Two Bills Drive Forum (http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?act=idx) some questions for discussions came up that I thought were something I myself would like to know Is Champ Bailey going to follow Lee Evans wherever he lines up?OR the right side of the field ? Does The Tampa-2 matches up well with a cut-blocking scheme.
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Here are some post from there board.
There are two things about the Broncos that worry me (and probably everyone else):
(1) Their receivers (Walker/Smith/Graham) vs our Clements-less coverage units
(2) Is Champ Bailey going to follow Lee Evans wherever he lines up? Evans is probably the most valuable receiver in the league (maybe not the best, but he's more valuable to his team than any other wideout), and it would make so much sense for Denver to move Bailey around depending on where Evans lines up. And yet in previous seasons, the Broncos have opted to just line Bailey up on the right side of the field and have him take away that half. The Broncos promoted a new defensive coordinator for this season -- is he going to be smart enough to move Bailey around since Evans is so valuable?
I'm dying to know the answer to that question because Denver is a bad defensive matchup if that's the case. Evans is so valuable that you'd rather face opponents that have 3 good corners instead of those that have 2 mediocre corners and 1 best-corner-in-the-league to match up with him.
I'm not really worried about the Broncos running game. The Tampa-2 matches up well with a cut-blocking scheme because it's quickness on quickness. We're more scared of power-rushing teams than teams that rely on movement and cuts.
But Denver's receivers worry me and Champ Bailey scares me. On the flip side, there's no way I'd bet against the Bills in a home opener against a green QB. So this game is going to be a no-play for me.
They made some decent off-season moves, the moves are more reminiscient of Donahoism than anything though.
Aged veterans with 1-2 years left (T. Henry, Dre Bly, Daniel Graham)
Rocket 7
07-14-2007, 03:36 PM
Link? To talk to Bills fans themselves.
Link? To talk to Bills fans themselves.
http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=66582&st=0
(Jae)
07-14-2007, 03:50 PM
Steve Smith is the most valuable WR to his team in the league.
DenverBrit
07-14-2007, 03:55 PM
Aged veterans with 1-2 years left (T. Henry, Dre Bly, Daniel Graham)
LOL
OrangeShadow
07-14-2007, 04:54 PM
Steve Smith is the most valuable WR to his team in the league.
QFT
Los Broncos
07-14-2007, 04:55 PM
He should cover him, Bly will sitck to Price.
Los Broncos
07-14-2007, 04:56 PM
Steve Smith is the most valuable WR to his team in the league.
I agree.
I was listening to Rome a while back, they played an interview he did with him.
He called someone a butthole, it was great.
SureShot
07-14-2007, 04:59 PM
Steve Smith is the most valuable WR to his team in the league.
Agreed. Lee Evans?ROFL!
brncs_fan
07-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Dre Bly is Mediocre? I know he is not making anybody's top ten list, but the guy was a starting #1 corner for two teams and has been regarded as a good to great talent by most people.
Los Broncos
07-14-2007, 05:07 PM
Dre Bly is Mediocre? I know he is not making anybody's top ten list, but the guy was a starting #1 corner for two teams and has been regarded as a good to great talent by most people.
Champ will make him better.
Willynowei
07-14-2007, 05:15 PM
Are all Bills fans that stupid? No seriously... are they?
Taco John
07-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Lee who?
epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
The Broncos acquired Bly so they dont have to move players around. Unless they line the guy up in the slot, he wont be mismatched.
footstepsfrom#27
07-14-2007, 05:25 PM
Nobody on a team that goes 21-27 over 3 years is the most valuable anything.
WABronco
07-14-2007, 05:37 PM
Lee Evans is pretty damn good...behind only the Colts duo last year in DPAR (a points-per-play stat). Pretty much the only thing they've got going for them on the receiver front.
I think he's the best young receiver in the league.
But, Champ Bailey just had one of the best years ever by a corner...and Bly isn't exactly chopped-liver either.
Are all Bills fans that stupid? No seriously... are they?
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Paladin
07-14-2007, 06:10 PM
Well, that quote just describes fans of other teams outside the AFCW perfectly. They know little of Denver, and very little about the players.
They are entitled to believe that their team is great and certainly to believe the Bills can beat the Broncos. Stranger things have happened.....
Paladin
07-14-2007, 06:17 PM
That's the definition of a coward.....
NYBronco
07-14-2007, 06:19 PM
"But Denver's receivers worry me and Champ Bailey scares me. On the flip side, there's no way I'd bet against the Bills in a home opener against a green QB. So this game is going to be a no-play for me."
Cutler may very well be green but who exactly is the Bills QB. Honestly I don't know who it is without checking their roster. I hope the Bills as a team show Denver and Cutler this lack of respect on opening day.
epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2007, 06:21 PM
"But Denver's receivers worry me and Champ Bailey scares me. On the flip side, there's no way I'd bet against the Bills in a home opener against a green QB. So this game is going to be a no-play for me."
Cutler may very well be green but who exactly is the Bills QB. Honestly I don't know who it is without checking their roster. I hope the Bills as a team show Denver and Cutler this lack of respect on opening day.
We'll see JP Losman at QB. He's not a bad little player.
It will be a show between the two young QB's. Fortunately, we have a very smart and talented pair of DB's, while the Billies have holes in the secondary. Expect some picks for the orange and blue.
Taco John
07-14-2007, 06:23 PM
Lee Evans is pretty damn good...behind only the Colts duo last year in DPAR (a points-per-play stat). Pretty much the only thing they've got going for them on the receiver front.
I think he's the best young receiver in the league.
But, Champ Bailey just had one of the best years ever by a corner...and Bly isn't exactly chopped-liver either.
Lee Evans might be good, but he's hardly established himself as the type of player that teams need to be making special game plans for.
MechanicalBull
07-14-2007, 06:56 PM
I know Denver sucks on opening day lately but with the Buffalo roster being torn apart this offseason I see a W but you never know.
My friend and I were just talking about this game last night and today. He is a Bills fan so we are most likely going to get tickets and go to the game.
footstepsfrom#27
07-14-2007, 07:12 PM
We'll see JP Losman at QB. He's not a bad little player.
He's not bad, but in Buffalo of all places would you really want your QB to be named "Los Man"? ;D
rovolution
07-14-2007, 07:18 PM
Are all Bills fans that stupid? No seriously... are they?
Its a hangover. They haven't fielded a competative team since Thurman Thomas, Kelly, Reed, B. Smith, and James Lofton from waaaaayyyyyy back in the day.
Atleast we've had only one loosing season post Elway, TD's prime, Shannon, etc...
Its been much worse for them since they lost their 1990's key players than it has been for us.
Atwater His Ass
07-14-2007, 07:23 PM
I think Losman is absolutely terrible.
(Jae)
07-14-2007, 08:21 PM
Lee Evans is pretty damn good
I think he's the best young receiver in the league.
I'll take him
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and then him:approve:
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Los Broncos
07-14-2007, 08:21 PM
As a whole, im just hoping for a win going into week 2.
Gives us maners something to talk about at the tailgate.
Rock Chalk
07-14-2007, 09:04 PM
Lee Evans might be good, but he's hardly established himself as the type of player that teams need to be making special game plans for.
I dont know about that. After seeing big play after big play from that guy last year, I can almost gaurantee you that the game plan will be designed to take him completely out of the game. Lee Evans is going to be a top 3 WR in the league in a year, maybe 2. He may be one of those guys like Tory Holt though, not a lot of recognition, just goes out and does it every damn game.
DukeWoody
07-14-2007, 10:10 PM
Im down for this game,its the openner and i'll be there representing loud and proud...Bisons stadium is only about an hour away from home base,and I know alot of Bison fans,so a W is a must...
Detroits another game i'll be seeing,George(FREE-WAY)Foster and Taintum (FUM)Bell are definatly gonna get heckeled hard, all game long, by me and my amigos...:militia:
maher_tyler
07-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I'm not gonna chalk up a W yet based off the last 2 years but we should get the W. If we can't beat Buffalo then we aren't going to beat very many teams this year. I think were going to run a lot better against them then what he thinks, Henry goes for 100+ i'll bet. Evans is a deep threat, never really seen much more than that from him, Champ will shut him down easily.
Kaylore
07-15-2007, 12:05 AM
The Bills have a pretty decent squad. Most of their players are underrated because nobody talks about them. I have no freaking idea what they're going to do at linebacker, but their D-line is solid and Donte Witner played well for them. Lee Evans is a very good receiver, but Bailey will own him and so will Bly + whoever is playing safety. I have little faith in JP Lossman. My concern is Cutler finding rhythm and whether our defense have their heads on straight by then. The new scheme is extremely simple, so hopefully that means the players will assimilate it faster than usual.
Taco John
07-15-2007, 12:36 AM
I dont know about that. After seeing big play after big play from that guy last year, I can almost gaurantee you that the game plan will be designed to take him completely out of the game. Lee Evans is going to be a top 3 WR in the league in a year, maybe 2. He may be one of those guys like Tory Holt though, not a lot of recognition, just goes out and does it every damn game.
Could be... I'll be the first to admit that I don't pay too much attention to what's going on in Buffalo.
I think they need to be more worried about what Travis Henry is going to do to them, than what Lee Evans is going to do to us.
As a whole, im just hoping for a win going into week 2.
Gives us maners something to talk about at the tailgate.yep
maher_tyler
07-15-2007, 12:45 AM
Could be... I'll be the first to admit that I don't pay too much attention to what's going on in Buffalo.
I think they need to be more worried about what Travis Henry is going to do to them, than what Lee Evans is going to do to us.
Kinda funny how Henry and Mcgahee were fighting for playing time when they were both there now both are gone..Henry is gonna have a chip on his shoulder!!
Please, Bates ought to have Bailey erase Lee at the LOS. I'm not worried about Lynch getting free and running wild. His carry limit is around 15. Plus, if Lynch, DJ and the crew come up and hit him, he'll go limp.
Take away Evans and then the running game, I'm pretty much certain this game is a laugher by the 3rd quarter.
24champ
07-15-2007, 03:47 AM
We seem to get our asses handed to us lately in the away season opener. Hopefully it's a different story this time around.
kmartin575
07-15-2007, 03:53 AM
Dre Bly is Mediocre? I know he is not making anybody's top ten list, but the guy was a starting #1 corner for two teams and has been regarded as a good to great talent by most people.
He is 30 so he is bound to dropoff pretty damn soon.
We seem to get our asses handed to us lately in the away season opener. Hopefully it's a different story this time around.
Thats what happens when you come into the season with a bi-polar QB like Jake Plummer. I don't see that happening with a QB who has confidence like Cutler will.
Inkana7
07-15-2007, 10:51 AM
ZOMG teh dr3 bly is a1m0st teh 30z! He is teh oldz! and teh suckz0rz!!!11
Not quite.
sixtimeseight
07-15-2007, 12:12 PM
He is 30 so he is bound to dropoff pretty damn soon.
Yea, unless it's Surtain and Law, in which case age doesn't matter, because they have veteran savvy. You stupid fat piece of crap.
kmartin575
07-16-2007, 02:15 AM
Yea, unless it's Surtain and Law, in which case age doesn't matter, because they have veteran savvy. You stupid fat piece of crap.
I'm just using the same piece of crap garbage you Donkey homers always use.
spdirty
07-16-2007, 02:29 AM
@Buffalo is a frickin scary opener. I expect that is we win it will be a sqeaker where we look like crap. All I care about is getting out of there with a W and nobody significant gets hurt.
Jens1893
07-16-2007, 02:38 AM
@Buffalo is a frickin scary opener. I expect that is we win it will be a sqeaker where we look like crap. All I care about is getting out of there with a W and nobody significant gets hurt.
Well, opening up on the road against a team that didnīt make the playoffs the year before is a trap game, but I much rather play them in September than in December. I would be really, really happy if we for once didnīt go into the Week 2 home opener against a division rival in danger of going 0-2, but rather with some confidence coming off a nice road win.
I think replacing Plummer should do the trick. Remember, we used to be notoriusly fast starters under Shanahan... until the Plummer era marred by his shaky confidence.
I don't think Cutler will have those same problems, even with just 5 games under his belt.
Atwater His Ass
07-16-2007, 11:43 AM
I would rather we have a strong finish this year. There's a difference being something like 11-5 after starting out 6-1 or being 11-5 after starting out 3-4 or whatever, you get the idea.
Rulon Velvet Jones
07-16-2007, 12:05 PM
After reading that site, I feel as though I should apologize for not knowing more about Losman. Because from the looks of things, this guy is the best QB in the league.
kamakazi_kal
07-16-2007, 01:40 PM
evans will be average.......I say 6 grabs for about 80yds
and feel very bad cause the rookie in his first game will meet the real lynch .....
bronco militia
07-16-2007, 02:25 PM
I think replacing Plummer should do the trick. Remember, we used to be notoriusly fast starters under Shanahan... until the Plummer era marred by his shaky confidence.
I don't think Cutler will have those same problems, even with just 5 games under his belt.
the Broncos were still fast starters under Plummer.....
2003: 5-1
2004: 5-1
2005: 5-1
2006: 5-1
Atwater His Ass
07-16-2007, 02:33 PM
This is what I was talking about.
Finished up:
2003: 10-6
2004: 10-6
2005: 13-3
2006: 9-7
So that's what, 5-5, 5-5, 8-2, and 4-6 finishes. I bet since Shanny took over in 1995, poor finishes like this are norm rather than the exception. We need to correct this.
bronco militia
07-16-2007, 02:35 PM
This is what I was talking about.
Finished up:
2003: 10-6
2004: 10-6
2005: 13-3
2006: 9-7
So that's what, 5-5, 5-5, 8-2, and 4-6 finishes. I bet since Shanny took over in 1995, poor finishes like this are norm rather than the exception. We need to correct this.
Dan reeves had similar issues.
cmhargrove
07-16-2007, 02:40 PM
As stated before, this game should be more about the run game than the passing game. It will be a good test to see if we picked the right starters on the O-line. Travis Henry running against his old team (with 2 other capable RB's breathing down his neck).
This game should be about run first, then play-action. Henry should be the focal point, then Graham (as a receiver), then deep to Walker when the run starts working.
Jarvis Moss gets his first sack in his first game???
broncosteven
07-16-2007, 02:44 PM
After reading that site, I feel as though I should apologize for not knowing more about Losman. Because from the looks of things, this guy is the best QB in the league.
Have you read what we have been saying about Cutler? Kid has only 5 starts and we all think he is a GOD!
BTW I don't think I have mentioned this in a while, Jay Cutler is a GOD that will DESTROY the NFL!
Atwater His Ass
07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
Dan reeves had similar issues.
Doesn't change the fact it's still an issue though. I think a big contributer to this is that we do not adjust our gameplan accordingly during the game. Shanny makes great gameplans, but as the game goes on, the other teams are better at adjusting and we just don't seem to know how. We need to get better at making adjustments on the fly.
I wouldn't give Reeves real credit as being a barn burner when it comes to this issue either.
But whatever the problem is, the fact remains we need to stop having 2nd half letdowns in games and seasons.
vancejohnson82
07-16-2007, 03:12 PM
I agree....the Chargers game (the first one) was a great example of our team just not making any adjustments as the game went on
happens more often than it should