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ICON
07-11-2007, 04:00 PM
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Among 2007 draft picks and signed contracts, the last shall be first.

Wednesday morning, the Broncos announced that defensive tackle Marcus Thomas signed with the club. Terms were undisclosed for the deal with the fourth-round pick.

The Broncos made waves when they acquired Thomas, sending their sixth- and seventh-round selections in this year's draft and a 2008 third-rounder to the Minnesota Vikings in order to acquire him.

Some observers considered the price for the selection steep, a notion with which Head Coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Ted Sundquist disagreed.

"Not if you had him graded as a first-round pick," Head Coach Mike Shanahan said just after making the swap and selection on April 29. "It's a steep price if he's not with our program in two weeks. Then it's a steep price."

""The 'steep price to pay' thing, once again, I'm baffled by, 'Why?'" Sundquist said in May. "It's too steep of a price if we end up picking in the top five of each round. But when has that happened in the life of most of our fans?

"To me, when you identify a player that you feel like can come in and contribute to your football team now, I'm not going to sit and wait and say, 'It's too steep a price,' because there's this fictional ghost player in the third round next year that we could take -- and no one knows who that player would be."

Thomas was dismissed from Florida's football program last November after a pair of positive drug tests. He spent the months that followed trying to convince NFL teams that such missteps would not happen again.

"When I talked about it, it was like going to court every day," Thomas said in April. "Denver and Tennessee were the only two teams that were going to give me a second chance. I talked to the coaches at Denver, and they told me that they would be willing to give me a second chance. I made a good story out of it, and now I am trying to live happily ever after."

But Shanahan emphasized after selecting Thomas that there would be no room for error.

"There is no second chance," Shanahan said on April 29.

"We talked about taking an educated gamble. You have to sit down with the player, and that player has to understand what the rules and regulations are and what the organization's all about. If they do make a mistake, then you have to release that player.

"If he doesn't abide by those guidelines, he won't be with us, but I will be surprised if he doesn't."

Like any rookie, Thomas had to make adjustments upon arriving in Denver -- and not just to the altitude and climate which is far different than he knew from growing up in Jacksonville, Fla.

"Gerard Warren and a couple of the older players were helping me out trying to get my stance right, (to get out of) that funky college stance and into a pro stance," Thomas said in May. "I'm trying to get used to that."

Denver has signed all but one of its draft picks over the previous five years prior to the start of training camp. The lone exception was 2004 second-round pick Tatum Bell, who signed his contract three days into camp.

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Garcia Bronco
07-11-2007, 04:13 PM
Nice!!

ICON
07-11-2007, 04:17 PM
A deal that will pay him $3 million over four years !The deal included a $428,000 signing bonus:thumbsup:

"Marcus was hands down the best football player on our national championship team. He's definitely a top-10 pick in my eyes," said defensive end Jarvis Moss of Florida, whom the Broncos selected with the 17th overall pick in this year's draft"

listopencil
07-11-2007, 04:26 PM
Thanks for posting that, a lot of good quotes in there.

Garcia Bronco
07-11-2007, 04:27 PM
Outside of Crowder this is our best pick IMO. I hope he lights it up as soon as he can get used to the pro level.

ICON
07-11-2007, 04:48 PM
Thanks for posting that, a lot of good quotes in there.No problem that one put me @ the 1k mark.

Man-Goblin
07-11-2007, 05:07 PM
It should be noted that Marcus Thomas can do flips. FLIPS!

JDB7821
07-11-2007, 05:51 PM
The Broncos got themselves a very big sleeper if he lays off the weed, which I truly think he will. I think with Moss, Crowder, and Thomas, the defensive line just became a strength for years.

CBF1
07-11-2007, 05:56 PM
Thats my boy. I want to let you know that you can expect big things from CBF1Marcus. He will be the steal of the draft for us. And he promised me as his adopted father that he will JUST SAY NO to the Cronic.

Kaylore
07-11-2007, 07:29 PM
It should be noted that Marcus Thomas can do flips. FLIPS!

ROFL!

Requiem
07-11-2007, 07:33 PM
If you guys read my beat blog, 428,000 is like 110 pounds of pot. He bought 2 BMW's instead. Good choice.

BroncoBuff
07-11-2007, 07:42 PM
It should be noted that Marcus Thomas can do flips. FLIPS!
I'm pretty sure that was WALTER Thomas.... a 450+ pounder who spent about 30 minutes in Saints mini-camp before he collapsed. :spit:


I dunno - DT is such a squirrly position on the whole, so hard to project them into the pros. And that seems like alotta money for a 4th rounder. Sure, he has 1st round talent, but I recall one of our highest draft picks ever was a DT named Dan Williams (forgot about him, didn't you?) ... maybe the 10th overall pick in the 1993 (appx) draft. He had 3 very unspectacular years with us, and ended up with the Chefs for most of his career.

So, I'm excited about the kid I guess ... but his value is way off in the future. Gerard Warren, Sam Adams and Jimmy Kennedy are the present.

In fact, I'll lay even money Marcus Thomas sustains a "phantom" injury in pre-season.

Requiem
07-11-2007, 07:43 PM
Well BroncoBuff, we'll be having a rotation here in Denver this year. It's already been stated by Bates that Adams would be most effective in about 20 snaps a game. Kennedy so far is still learning the system, just like Thomas. I don't think there's much of an edge there. The name that nobody seems to be mentioning is Alvin McKinley, who should be pretty decent for us, and has experience in two-gap assignments.

I'm guessing we'll keep those three, along with Warren and Thomas will come in.

I think Thomas will see quite a few snaps on passing downs, and I'd agree with McShay's assessment on NFL Live the other day (breaking down the AFC West's top rookies) saying that he could be a force in a limited role getting after the passer his first year, and everything else will come in time.

Since it's such a hard position to transition to (like you mentioned) it's hard to guess what kind of impact he could have, but I feel he can come in and play 15-20 snaps a day and be effective. Let's hope. :)

elsid13
07-11-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm pretty sure that was WALTER Thomas.... a 450+ pounder who spent about 30 minutes in Saints mini-camp before he collapsed. :spit:


The 97 degree heat effect your ability to spot a joke???

OrangeShadow
07-11-2007, 07:46 PM
The 97 degree heat effect your ability to spot a joke???

come now el, hes never had the ability.

BroncoBuff
07-11-2007, 08:04 PM
The 97 degree heat effect your ability to spot a joke???

My sense of humor goes right out the window when the temperature hits 96.


My sense of humor is a lot like Walter Thomas's conditioning at an NFL minicamp ...


Take my sense of humor. Please.


My sense of humor was so cold, I saw Eskimos run the other way ...


My sense of humor is so bad, I thought the Slap-Garcia thing was hilarious ...


My sense of humor is so stilted, I .... oh forget it. :(

Conklin
07-11-2007, 08:30 PM
And that seems like alotta money for a 4th rounder.

My boy Allen Barbre got 3.1 over 4 years and he was a 4th rounder...it seems about right on par

cutthemdown
07-11-2007, 09:10 PM
Now that he has a half a million dollars in his pocket he will really have to concentrate on doing the right thing. If your reading this Marcus remember that Shanny said no second chances so make sure you don't go out and buy chronic with that signing bonus. Put it in the bank and get ready for the season my big friend. Next to sign will by Harris then we can get Moss and Crowder in right before training camp starts. LETS GO BRONCOS!!!!!!

BroncoBuff
07-11-2007, 09:22 PM
One of our highest draft picks ever was a DT named Dan Williams (forgot about him, didn't you?) ... maybe the 10th overall pick in the 1993 (appx) draft. He had 3 very unspectacular years with us, and ended up with the Chefs for most of his career.

Nobody? How soon we forget ...

DukeWoody
07-11-2007, 09:41 PM
This signing is great news,now he'll be in camp on time and get all the work thats needed for him to get back on track...
He only played 4 games his junior season before he was suspended,so he has a lot of catching up to do...
Kudos to the FO for signing 4 years and under 3mil.,plus he's agreed to forfeit signing bonuses for any misconduct...:~ohyah!:

Man-Goblin
07-12-2007, 09:51 AM
I'm pretty sure that was WALTER Thomas.... a 450+ pounder who spent about 30 minutes in Saints mini-camp before he collapsed. :spit:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5781800

"There are no football questions about Thomas, who is so athletic he can do standing back flips despite his 6-foot-2, 314-pound frame."

The standing flips will be his sack dance.

jonny1
07-12-2007, 09:58 AM
I read that his contract is a 2% increase over last year's pick in the same spot. The league wide average this year is a 1% increase.

So, yeah, they overpaid . . . :giggle:

Paladin
07-12-2007, 10:34 AM
He isn't 314. He's listed at 296......

That's not so hard to flip.......

He gets $185.36 a pound - approximately - per regular season game. Needs to add weight to get better value........

Odysseus
07-12-2007, 10:38 AM
i A M S O S T O K E D ! ! !

BroncoBuff
07-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Denver Post: "There are no football questions about Thomas, who is so athletic he can do standing back flips despite his 6-foot-2, 314-pound frame."
Jeepers, Goblin ... yer right! It wasn't a joke after all! The joke's on us!

I still think that after he basically missed all of last season, he's out of football shape (something that's already been talked about in mini-camps). I might be wrong, but for now, find a phantom injury and stash him like Hixon for a year. Let him gain that Bates-weight and get into football shape.

I'm VERY confident in the Warren+Adams, Kennedy+McKinley "fatso rotation," with maybe a little Veal thrown in ;D

Man-Goblin
07-12-2007, 10:47 AM
Jeepers, Gobs ... yer right! It wasn't a joke after all ... the joke's on us!


Well, consider the source. It is from a Billy Willy article and he himself may have confused our Marcus with fat Walter.

But I prefer to believe that Marcus Thomas can do flips and will continue to do so until it is proven otherwise.

If someone sees Marcus at the club, please, for me, ask him about it. Inquiring minds want to know. :)

fontaine
07-12-2007, 11:53 AM
I hope he lights it up as soon as he can get used to the pro level.


That's what I'm afraid of. Hopefully he doesn't get his smoke on like he did in Florida.
:~ohyah!: