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[RhymesayersDU]

http://www.niagara-gazette.com/local/local_story_190233439.html

LOCKPORT: Police investigating pit bull attack on toddler
Family dog reportedly assaulted 2-year-old
By April Amadon/amadona@gnnewspaper.com
Niagara Gazette

Lockport police are investigating an apparent attack by a pit bull on a small boy.

The 2-year-old is recovering at Women and Children’s Hospital in Buffalo after police say he was attacked and sexually assaulted by his family’s pit bull.

Police said the toddler was in his home on Washburn Street about 2 p.m. when the pit bull attacked. According to police, the dog sodomized the boy.

“The dog sexually attacked the kid and caused some pretty significant injuries,” said Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert.

Eggert said the boy’s family members and neighbors had to beat the dog to get it off the boy.

The dog has been impounded at the Niagara County SPCA as the investigation continues. Eggert said a veterinarian will be brought in to take DNA samples from the dog.

“(The vet will) compare DNA taken from the boy to kind of verify it happened,” Eggert said, later adding, “I have never, ever heard of an assault quite like that.”

Niagara County SPCA Executive Director Al Chille agreed the case is an unusual one.

“The majority of the calls we receive with regards to pit bulls are bite calls, not calls of this nature,” he said. “We get a considerably large number of those (bite calls) from all over the county.”

The dog was a 2-year-old pit bull that had been with the family since it was a puppy, Eggert said. Sunday’s incident was the first time the family had any problems with the dog being aggressive or biting, he said.

The boy underwent surgery on Sunday night and may need more reconstructive surgery in the future, Eggert said.

Chille said pit bulls are notorious for being aggressive, though that may not be true of all pit bulls. In his 27 years working with the SPCA, he said he’s seen many dog breeds become feared in society — including spaniels, German shepherds and rottweilers.

“Each one of the dogs had its day,” he said.

The problem is not with the breed itself, Chille said, but rather the manner in which the dog is raised. A pit bull raised in a loving atmosphere “could be a fine dog,” he said.

[TheDave]

That is seriously ****ed up!!!

[spdirty]

No condolences for that family, only the boy. Putting a pit bull in that house is like putting a venomous snake, bear, lion, gator, etc. in there. Especially with a 2 year old baby. You just never know if/when that dog will snap.

[Taco John]

I'm a dog lover, but I simply do not trust pit bulls. My wife brought my son to my softball game last night, and one of my buddies wives had brought their pitbull. All I had to give my wife was a sharp look at her and the pitbull. She gave me the "of course" look, and sat away from the dog. The last thing I need is some brainless pit chewing off my sons fingers or toes, or snapping at him thinking he's encroaching his territory.

What a nightmare that would be.

[Kaylore]

There is nothing wrong with Pitbulls and people that are scared of them "just because" might as well be scared of other dogs in likewise manner. Dogs are only as bad as the owners that raise them. I have several friends that own them and they've never had a problem with them. Remember for every story like this, there are a million other Pit Bulls that were very well behaved today and they will be so the rest of their lives.

[Lev Vyvanse]

There is nothing wrong with Pitbulls and people that are scared of them "just because" might as well be scared of other dogs in likewise manner. Dogs are only as bad as the owners that raise them. I have several friends that own them and they've never had a problem with them. Remember for every story like this, there are a million other Pit Bulls that were very well behaved today and they will be so the rest of their lives.

I wonder why I have never seen the headline "Boy sexually assaulted by his family’s golden retriever"

[Taco John]

There is nothing wrong with Pitbulls and people that are scared of them "just because" might as well be scared of other dogs in likewise manner. Dogs are only as bad as the owners that raise them. I have several friends that own them and they've never had a problem with them. Remember for every story like this, there are a million other Pit Bulls that were very well behaved today and they will be so the rest of their lives.


Could be true. But I'll take my chances with a border collie over a pit any day of the week when it comes to my kid. I'd bet that you would too.

[Kaylore]

I wonder why I have never seen the headline "Boy sexually assaulted by his family’s golden retriever"

This is the first I've heard of anyone being raped by a dog ever. It's probably the last I'll hear of it my lifetime. If you or anyone who reads this article is seriously afraid that pit bulls are running around raping babies, then you guys have problems with fear and anxiety. It's a fluke. I have heard of retrievers attacking other children, though. And as I understand it, most of the bites from rabid dogs don't come from pit bulls, so there are a lot of other dogs that are raised mean that attack people but they don't carry the stigma that pit bulls do.


Could be true. But I'll take my chances with a border collie over a pit any day of the week when it comes to my kid. I'd bet that you would too.
I would never own a pit bull because I think they're ugly and that's the truth. If I had to pick between a pit bull and an uglier dog like a pug, then I'd take the pit bull. I like cuter dogs, but I am not afraid of any one dog just based on the breed and that's the truth. I will say that I treat all dogs with a degree of caution when I first encounter them, though.

[listopencil]

“(The vet will) compare DNA taken from the boy to kind of verify it happened,” Eggert said, later adding, “I have never, ever heard of an assault quite like that.”

I will wait for the results of that DNA test before I make a comment on this story.

[theAPAOps5]

This story is crazy weird. Thats just sad and disgusting. The worst part is its published and could come back to haunt this kid in the future.

[Arkie]

A friendly pit bull is more dangerous than a ferocious chiwawa.

[Bob]

This is the first I've heard of anyone being raped by a dog ever. It's probably the last I'll hear of it my lifetime. If you or anyone who reads this article is seriously afraid that pit bulls are running around raping babies, then you guys have problems with fear and anxiety. It's a fluke. I have heard of retrievers attacking other children, though. And as I understand it, most of the bites from rabid dogs don't come from pit bulls, so there are a lot of other dogs that are raised mean that attack people but they don't carry the stigma that pit bulls do.


I would never own a pit bull because I think they're ugly and that's the truth. If I had to pick between a pit bull and an uglier dog like a pug, then I'd take the pit bull. I like cuter dogs, but I am not afraid of any one dog just based on the breed and that's the truth. I will say that I treat all dogs with a degree of caution when I first encounter them, though.

There is truth to the idea that how a person trains a dog has a big influence on behavior, but its another example of the nature VS nurture debate. Both factors have influence -- but to say that pitbulls were NOT BREED TO BE AGRESSIVE over several hundred years is not true. Some breeds are simply more aggressive by nature than others. Pitbulls are not the only ones -- my German Shepard growing up could be pretty dang mean if you got near its food, and it was protective BY NATURE. There are smaller breeds that were breed to be more aggressive I hear Duchhounds are testy, but the difference is a pitbull's jaw strength, which has enough PPSI to crush bone.

[Arkie]

My brother-in-law has a pit bull that's the sweetest dog in the world. I can see the muscles on the top of his head flex when he chews his food. That's one badass chomping machine.

[Florida_Bronco]

There is nothing wrong with Pitbulls and people that are scared of them "just because" might as well be scared of other dogs in likewise manner. Dogs are only as bad as the owners that raise them. I have several friends that own them and they've never had a problem with them. Remember for every story like this, there are a million other Pit Bulls that were very well behaved today and they will be so the rest of their lives.

Preach on brother, preach on!

[broncocalijohn]

This story is crazy weird. Thats just sad and disgusting. The worst part is its published and could come back to haunt this kid in the future.


I hope he doesnt become a John for dogs later in life. Why would someone even want to own this type of dog is beyond me. No need to take this chance. If you want a pit bull or mix, go to your shelter where a whole section includes them.

[TexanBob]

Okay, it's one thing for a dog to be aggressive but **sexually** aggressive with a human?? I've heard of making someone your b**** but I never thought a dog was really capable of such a thing with a child. I mean, gee, I have a hard time just picturing the logistics here.

Although it is true that dogs celebrate diversity when it comes to sexual partners I just assumed they stuck to their own genus.

I can only imagine the psychiatric bills this kid is going to have in coming years.

[Cosmo]

Look, Pitbulls can be fine dogs as any other dog can. There are 2 main reasons why one always hears about Pitbulls biting or attacking someone.

1) The type of people that want to have a pitbull are the type of people that shouldn't have a dog (generally). Pitbulls rarely are taken to the Vet, which shows what type of people own them. More often than not the owner ruins the dog.

2) When a Pitbull does attack, it will be remembered. They have ridiculous jaw power unlike a border collie or some other dog. They are strong & determined, you literally have to beat them or kill them to stop. Whereas another dog you can pry them right off of someone with much less difficulty.

In end, Pits are not a dog I'd recommend, they have no redeeming qualities that you can't find in some other dog besides dog fighting, which is not a good reason to own one.

[maher_tyler]

No condolences for that family, only the boy. Putting a pit bull in that house is like putting a venomous snake, bear, lion, gator, etc. in there. Especially with a 2 year old baby. You just never know if/when that dog will snap.

Could you imagine walking into someones house and a ****ing lion is walking around...i'll go with the Pit. I agree though a lot has to do with how it's raised but if i had a kid i'd definitly rather have a golden retriver or something like that..like you say you never know when there gonna snap!!

[vancejohnson82]

I've been one of the people on this board protecting the right to own a pitbull under the right conditions, and I am also an owner of two. But the problem hit me dead in the face last night as I was talking with one of my graduate classmates (a girl in her late twenties)

She was complaining about her new puppy and about how he keeps tearing the house apart and doesnt listen. I asked her how she would discipline the dog. She replied that she shows him what he does, without yelling because she doesnt want to be mean, and then says "NO." I laughed and told her that if she isn’t more strict the dog is going to end up running all over her. She nixed the idea of bringing it to training classes which surprised me. I then asked her what gender the dog was and she said male. And then told me it was a PITBULL. Immediately I brought up neutering the dog because it is around the right age and you don’t want to wait too long. She dismissed it and said that she would feel bad doing so and had no intention of it. I argued with her for about 5 minutes but realized it was of no use.
She got the dog from basically a guy off the street. She said a “friend” who had a bunch of puppies but it is basically a bootleg operation in my opinion if it isn’t a bonafide breeder.

So here we have an owner, who can’t discipline a dog, who owns an unfixed MALE dog as a FEMALE (this leads to serious protection issues), who got it off the street from “some guy.” The dog is “pure” and will probably end up being about 65 pounds of pure muscle being handled by a 110 woman

This is the type of dog you will read about in the news because it is the perfect storm of all the things that are wrong.

So I agree in this sense: Take the dogs out of the hands of these people who breed them in basements, backyards, sheds or wherever else. When they are sold, neuter them unless the owner has experience with pits or is a breeder himself/herself.

[vancejohnson82]

Cosmo,

Your statements are f***in ridiculous.

[Beantown Bronco]

Was the 2 year old walking around the house unsupervised and naked?

[obediah]

Oh hell not this conversation again.. Are we still not discussing this on another huge fuggin thread???

I love dogs but,Point blank, say what you want about pitbulls i could care less what your opinion about them is, keep them away from my family, im not scared of them, i will let them attach themselves to my arm or leg, yeah it will hurt me for a bit, but i guarentee when they pry that bastard off me, he wont be worth a damn after that and i know he wont be able to see anything ever again, but no one has a right to endanger my family.

Dogs are Animals.. PERIOD
Animals, even though we can train them and housebreak them, are still animals and have animal instincts.
THIS MEANS ALL DOGS ARE UNPREDICTABLE...
No pitbulls are not the only ones that attack, but like pointed out earlier, when it comes to my daughter, i would much rather have a chihuahua around to attack her than a pitbull, and i agree with the previous statement, they are fuggin ugly ass dogs. i think that is why they are so mean, cause they seen reflections of themselves or something...

Obediah

[Garcia Bronco]

I've had one stare me down before in the streets. It's not cool at all. You really do fear for you life.

[maher_tyler]

Was the 2 year old walking around the house unsupervised and naked?

I was kinda wondering the samething, how long did they leave there 2 year old kid crawling around on the floor before realizing wow we also have a pitbull running around the house maybe we should check on him..sounds like a case of bad parenting, if not that then a case of EXTREME ignorance!! Everyone knows the background of these types of dogs and what their capable of!!

[Garcia Bronco]

Why are they called pitbulls? And aren't they actually called something else like Bull Terrier? And there is a good reason to be scared of these dogs. Starting with the fact that their jaw locks in place and are very difficult to get them to let go. That in and of itself is a good reason not to have one or have tham around.

[KipCorrington25]

When exactly were spaniels "feared in society?"

[kamakazi_kal]

:punched: :deadhorse

[55CrushEm]

Okay, it's one thing for a dog to be aggressive but **sexually** aggressive with a human?? I've heard of making someone your b**** but I never thought a dog was really capable of such a thing with a child. I mean, gee, I have a hard time just picturing the logistics here.

Although it is true that dogs celebrate diversity when it comes to sexual partners I just assumed they stuck to their own genus.

I can only imagine the psychiatric bills this kid is going to have in coming years.

Any animal that is horny will be "sexually aggressive"......hell, when I was a kid we had a ping pong table in our family room. Obviously, the ball would always go on the floor, and often times under another table, etc.

Sometimes you'd have to get on your hands and knees to get the ball. Well, no lie, my GOLDEN RETRIEVER would try to mount you every time you'd go to get the ball. I'd just give him a smack. Of course, he stopped doing it when he got fixed.

It was kind of funny, actually......and quite enjoyable, I might say...:wiggle: J/K

[c_lazy_r]

Is it possible the sexual assault was committed by someone(thing) other than the dog? Just a fishy sounding story, if you ask me.

[jtomm]

...family members and neighbors had to beat the dog to get it off...

what editor let this line slide?

[freak6]

lmao jtomm!

[c_lazy_r]

...family members and neighbors had to beat the dog to get it off...

what editor let this line slide?



Hilarious!

Very, very nice.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Someone said that ANY dog breed could snap and attack a human. This is correct. But not every dog breed can mangle, shred, or kill a child or adult. That is reason alone not to own a Pit Bull or any breed with increased probability of causing serious damage. That ain't the dogs' fault and owners who let them roam free around their 2 year old kids show neither their kids or the dog their proper respect.

Don't be surprised when your kid gets ripped like a ragdoll by your pit bull. The same would not happen if it were a miniature poodle or boston terrier. This is a parental issue, not a dog breed issue, IMO.

[vancejohnson82]

"show neither their kids or the dog their proper respect"

very well put.....i would never put my two year old, unsupervised around my unfixed, male pit bull

[TexanBob]

...family members and neighbors had to beat the dog to get it off...

what editor let this line slide?

I had the same thought. I think sometimes they actually write such sentences for their own amusement.

[freak6]

it finished with "get it off THE BOY", but still.

[Don Flamenco]

Why are they called pitbulls? And aren't they actually called something else like Bull Terrier? And there is a good reason to be scared of these dogs. Starting with the fact that their jaw locks in place and are very difficult to get them to let go. That in and of itself is a good reason not to have one or have tham around.


LOL, that's genetically impossibleLOL

oday 03:51 PM
vancejohnson82 I've been one of the people on this board protecting the right to own a pitbull under the right conditions, and I am also an owner of two. But the problem hit me dead in the face last night as I was talking with one of my graduate classmates (a girl in her late twenties)

She was complaining about her new puppy and about how he keeps tearing the house apart and doesnt listen. I asked her how she would discipline the dog. She replied that she shows him what he does, without yelling because she doesnt want to be mean, and then says "NO." I laughed and told her that if she isn’t more strict the dog is going to end up running all over her. She nixed the idea of bringing it to training classes which surprised me. I then asked her what gender the dog was and she said male. And then told me it was a PITBULL. Immediately I brought up neutering the dog because it is around the right age and you don’t want to wait too long. She dismissed it and said that she would feel bad doing so and had no intention of it. I argued with her for about 5 minutes but realized it was of no use.
She got the dog from basically a guy off the street. She said a “friend” who had a bunch of puppies but it is basically a bootleg operation in my opinion if it isn’t a bonafide breeder.

So here we have an owner, who can’t discipline a dog, who owns an unfixed MALE dog as a FEMALE (this leads to serious protection issues), who got it off the street from “some guy.” The dog is “pure” and will probably end up being about 65 pounds of pure muscle being handled by a 110 woman

This is the type of dog you will read about in the news because it is the perfect storm of all the things that are wrong.

So I agree in this sense: Take the dogs out of the hands of these people who breed them in basements, backyards, sheds or wherever else. When they are sold, neuter them unless the owner has experience with pits or is a breeder himself/herself.

Nice post. The reason you never heard of pitbull attacks a couple of decades ago is they were not as popular as they are today. Back then, there were less of this 110 lb lady and more responsible owners. back then there were also more real pitbulls bred to the right temperment and standards instead of beeing bred to be 100lb mutts that they have today. That lady should get her dog taken away from. That is the kind of sittuation that will ruin it for responsible owners like me, and the whole breed as a whole.

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL, that's genetically impossibleLOL



.

what do you mean?

[Don Flamenco]

The infamous locking jaw is a myth. The American Pit Bull Terrier and related breeds are physiologically no different from any other breed of dog. All dogs are from the same species and none have locking jaws. Dr. I Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia states, "To the best of our knowledge, there are no published scientific studies that would allow any meaningful comparison to be made of the biting power of various breeds of dogs. There are, moreover, compelling technical reasons why such data describing biting power in terms of 'pounds per square inch' can never be collected in a meaningful way. All figures describing biting power in such terms can be traced to either unfounded rumor or, in some cases, to newspaper articles with no foundation in factual data." Furthermore, Dr. Brisbin states, "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of 'locking mechanism' unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier."

http://www.austinlostpets.com/kidskorner/2October/pitbull.htm

[Garcia Bronco]

http://www.austinlostpets.com/kidskorner/2October/pitbull.htm

When people say lock jaw...they mean a very...very strong jaw. To the point you need a pry bar to get them to release.

[loborugger]

She was complaining about her new puppy and about how he keeps tearing the house apart and doesnt listen. I asked her how she would discipline the dog. She replied that she shows him what he does, without yelling because she doesnt want to be mean, and then says "NO." I laughed and told her that if she isn’t more strict the dog is going to end up running all over her.

Ya, and if you think the dog will run over her, wait til she has kids.

My brother in law has a pit. I have mixed feelings about that dog.

On one side
My brother in law is a very good owner.
The dog has lived almost 10 years without mauling a human.
The dog lived fine with other dog buddies that were just mutts.
My nephews play with, tug on, try to ride, poke, prode, etc this pit without being even growled at (not that pits growl in my experience.. they just attack).

On the other side
The dog attacked a meter man when he got close to the fence, biting his hand.
This dog goes nuts when he sees another male pit, almost dragging my 190 lb brother in law into a fray.
His dog companions have always been females, he doesnt seem to get along with other males.
He pulled a stray thru the fence and ripped its leg off.

The singular biggest problem I have with Pits is this - their owners. This breed seems to attract the small penis, super macho, insecure idiots who pick the animals solely for their prowess and have a complete inability (or desire) to train the dog well.... or train the dog not to be a menace to small children, old ladies, etc.

Consequently, the problem with banning the breed is that these idiots will just migrate to a new breed of dogs trained to attack without remorse and the problem continues almost unabated.

Overall, I am not in favor of these dogs, and I pray that when my brother in laws pit dies, that he replaces it with a plain ole mutt.

[Beantown Bronco]

Ya, and if you think the dog will run over her, wait til she has kids.

My brother in law has a pit. I have mixed feelings about that dog.

On one side
My brother in law is a very good owner.
The dog has lived almost 10 years without mauling a human.
The dog lived fine with other dog buddies that were just mutts.
My nephews play with, tug on, try to ride, poke, prode, etc this pit without being even growled at (not that pits growl in my experience.. they just attack).

On the other side
The dog attacked a meter man when he got close to the fence, biting his hand.
This dog goes nuts when he sees another male pit, almost dragging my 190 lb brother in law into a fray.
His dog companions have always been females, he doesnt seem to get along with other males.
He pulled a stray thru the fence and ripped its leg off.

The singular biggest problem I have with Pits is this - their owners. This breed seems to attract the small penis, super macho, insecure idiots who pick the animals solely for their prowess and have a complete inability (or desire) to train the dog well.... or train the dog not to be a menace to small children, old ladies, etc.

Consequently, the problem with banning the breed is that these idiots will just migrate to a new breed of dogs trained to attack without remorse and the problem continues almost unabated.

Overall, I am not in favor of these dogs, and I pray that when my brother in laws pit dies, that he replaces it with a plain ole mutt.

So - you're blaming the owners.....yet you say that your brother is a good owner, while his pit has attacked a meter man, ripped the leg off of a stray dog, and loses control when any male dog gets within site. Seems to be a bit of a contradiction to me.

[Broncos_OTM]

i love my pits. they are great dogs. fiercly loyal and tame as babies. i dont know what you all are talking about. there are bad dogs. just as there are bad people get over it.

[Kaylore]

The singular biggest problem I have with Pits is this - their owners. This breed seems to attract the small penis, super macho, insecure idiots who pick the animals solely for their prowess and have a complete inability (or desire) to train the dog well.... or train the dog not to be a menace to small children, old ladies, etc.

Consequently, the problem with banning the breed is that these idiots will just migrate to a new breed of dogs trained to attack without remorse and the problem continues almost unabated.
That's a really good point and I agree. The two women I know are pretty sterm with their pit bulls, but also very loving. I don't know of any incidents they've had. I do know that most dogs are very territorial regardless of size. My point would be that it's not right to blame these dogs for what is really stupid humans. It's not the Pit Bull's fault it's brought up like it is.

[Don Flamenco]

That's a really good point and I agree. The two women I know are pretty sterm with their pit bulls, but also very loving. I don't know of any incidents they've had. I do know that most dogs are very territorial regardless of size. My point would be that it's not right to blame these dogs for what is really stupid humans. It's not the Pit Bull's fault it's brought up like it is.

Also not the dog's fault that those same small penised people are breeding unstable dogs to unstable dogs. I'm so tired of people saying that it is all how you raise your dog. To an extent, this is true, but if both of your pups parents were unstable to begin with and they were bred together to make a quick buck instead of being fixed or even better, put down, then your pup will probably end up being the same.

[crazyhorse]

While I dont pretend to be an expert (as some). I do believe that dogs do have characteristics specific to particular breeds.

For example, I have a blue heeler. This dog has never seen cattle but has a herding type personality. Heelers got their name because they would nip at the heels of the herd as a way of directing the herd. It's an instinct of the breed.

It's not uncommon for a pit to be very owner friendly for the 1st few years only to turn aggressive later in life. While I wont say it is natural instinct for the breed, I will say that they "turn" more than any other dog.

To say that a dog is only a product of up bringing is short sighted and poorly thought out. Different breeds have different characteristics that are part of thier genetic makeup.

Are there exceptions to the rule? Of course. But I would think twice before getting a heeler with a small child in the house. While they are loving caring dogs, they will get excited at times and nip. Not in an aggressive way out of anger. But more an instinctual response. Heelers are better suited for larger children.

[vancejohnson82]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07082007/news/regionalnews/pit_bull_vs__perv_regionalnews_georgett_roberts__a nd_samuel_goldsmith.htm

just to throw ONE in for the pitties

I really think the problem with the males is that people want to "breed" them and don't neuter them....they are a testosterone driven animal and that leads to attacks

females are very protective when left alone as well

As Bob Barker would tell you, PLEASE FIX YOUR ANIMAL