An Open Letter to -Slap- ... Your Broncos Community Needs You

[BroncoBuff]

Slap's posting privileges were reinstated Monday, and the avatar of his late, beloved Great Pyrenees 'Bronco' reappeared. That photo was a comforting sight for many of us, we count on it to steel us to the tasks that lie ahead in the 2007 season.

However, a short time later, the avatar disappeared, and an Abraham Lincoln quotation about man's character and abuse of power appeared. It sounded eerily like his own epitaph ... but I cannot stand by while he shuffles off this mortal orange coil.




Even the greatest of field Generals cannot Slap the enlisted men with impugnity Slap! Patton himself was robbed of the glory of leading and army onto the shores of Normany after this slap Slap ...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8246/pattonslapfs0.jpg

. . . . . . . . . . . . ^^^ . . . . . . . . . . . . ^^^ . . . . . . . . ^^^
. . . . . . . . . Garcia Bronco . . . . . . Riddell Helmet . . . . . . Slap



But he came BACK!

Applying your own quote of Abraham Lincoln to YOU, sir: YOUR character will now be tested. Now, when you have the power to rob this community of your intelligent, incisive and often stinging presence. DO NOT ABUSE THAT POWER! And, do not rob yourself of the glory of wading ashore with the rest of us as the 2007 Denver Broncos Invasion opens camp mere days from now .... as the many posters below will echo - Your Broncos Community needs you!

So exercise this power with the true character we know you possess - and return! Like MacArthur did in the Phillipines ... like Patton did to the Third Army!


The OrangeMane Army commands you .... FRONT AND CENTER!

.

[CBF1]

stop sucking aZZ.... it is not attractive.

[CBF1]

Besides, Slappy is an (cough) adult, He can do whatever he chooses.

[JCMElway]

I would enjoy seeing Slap come back as well. No azz sucking here, though.

[SureShot]

Who is Slap?

[Killericon]

*Especially a little man.

Classy touch, -Slap-.

Come back!

[SureShot]

You had me at slap BB.

[theAPAOps5]

Come on Slap, buy a vowel ;D, and come on back!

[DomCasual]

Good Lord! As I was reading that, I heard a noise. It slowly built to a crescendo as I read - but it wasn't until the end of the post that I began to even hear it.

So familiar...

What is that?

Oh. My. Gosh. It's the Battle Hymn of the Republic! It seems to be materializing from the thin air!

:)

[BroncoBuff]

Mine Eyes have Seen the Glory ...http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/831/pattonflagbj7.jpg... It's that time of year, so strike up the band!

[AboveAverage]

If a troll banned me, I would have a hard back coming back myself.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Oh the drama! Kinda reminds one of middle school. ::)

[baja]

If a troll banned me, I would have a hard back coming back myself.

It seems that things have been set right finally.


I would like to say I like Garcia even though I seldom agree with his non football takes but it is best that he is not a mod anymore

[Garcia Bronco]

If a troll banned me, I would have a hard back coming back myself.

Good. Then SLAP should have no problem coming back.

[55CrushEm]

stop sucking aZZ.... it is not attractive.

QFT.

[footstepsfrom#27]

My life is now complete.

[Crowpointer]

Mine Eyes have Seen the Glory ...http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/831/pattonflagbj7.jpg... It's that time of year, so strike up the band!

Slap is still with you . He lives in your heart.:USA:

[Meck77]

Slap is still with you . He lives in your heart.:USA:

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.

[broncosteven]

I would lose a ton of respect for -slap- if he stays away.

I don't know the whole story but Garcia has taken responsibilty for his actions. -slap- should accept responsibility for his and move on.

That said I do like his football takes and hope he will be posting here again.

BTW I wrote this before I saw Meck's post above.

[baja]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.

all bannable posts but that was not the reason he was banned therein lays the problem.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.
Some of his famous last words............
Wow, you mean Slap actually said all this stuff on his way out for being banned!?

[bendog]

I was out of town. What precipitated Slap's meltdown? Maybe I can guess. There are some pretty lame apologists for athletes on this board.

[broncosteven]

I think we should just turn all obscene words into names of posters and all our problems would be solved.

Here is an example:

Meck you!

Go Broncobuff your dog!

TJ my Garcia!

Hotrod! (Hotrod = bastard BTW, but in a good way)

My Pez itches.

DEATHsicle is so Broncosteven! (i.e. Cool!)

[Meck77]

all bannable posts but that was not the reason he was banned therein lays the problem.

Oh sure it is Baja. All members here are accountable for all the posts they've ever made here. He thought he was above the law like Paris and he was put in check. I really don't see the big deal with all of this. Personally I think Garcia made out like a champ in all of this. Now he can run around the board and have fun instead of having to listen to people whine about the injustices of the board.Ha!

*edit* No Slug Slap didn't say that stuff on the way out the door per say. That was a sampling of "greatest hits" someone put together in one of the other 5 "save slap" threads.

Like I said we are all held accountable for our posts in the eyes of the mods or other members.

[bendog]

Come on, I like Garcia, but to say he doesn't selectively edit to promote his own agenda is bs.

Seriously, what pissed off Slap?

[Garcia Bronco]

Come on, I like Garcia, but to say he doesn't selectively edit to promote his own agenda is bs.

Seriously, what pissed off Slap?

Let's talk about that...what do you mean selectively edit?

[bendog]

No thanks. It's my opinion. But it's also your right as a moderator on this board.

Seriously, what pissed off Slap?

[Garcia Bronco]

No thanks. It's my opinion. But it's also your right as a moderator on this board.

Seriously, what pissed off Slap?

I respect your opinion. We have posted together for over 7 years, but I have never selectively edited posts to promote my agenda. It's unfair to make that claim when you don't know it to be fact.

[bendog]

I misstated. I think every moderator brings his own bias with him. it's really no different from the flak Colin Powell's kid got for the brooha over Janet Jacksons boob compared to the other crap on television. So, to the exent I seemed to imply you INTENTIONALLy selected what is banned from a bias, I apologize, and didn't mean that.

But again, what pissed off slap.

[Paladin]

After reading the OP, I was stunned as to the absurdity of the military, war-mongering tone of the "appeal". After reading Meck;s post, I would say that Slap has no place on this Board if he wants to continue posting the crap he did; he deserved to be banned for another month or so.

What riles me is that he banning process is rather inconsistent. I have seen crud put out by trolls hereon, but they are not banned. I suspect it has to do with whether the trolls excite traffic or not. Slap did not exactly excite traffic; he excited morbid humor against what he percieved as an authority figure. Frankly, many of the posters hereon are long past the teenage years, and shoud probably man up to their own adulthood.

Would your mother like to read what *you* sometimes post here? Even the mulolets shoul;d grow up some day. There is little humor in stupidity and baiting.

[Garcia Bronco]

I misstated. I think every moderator brings his own bias with him. it's really no different from the flak Colin Powell's kid got for the brooha over Janet Jacksons boob compared to the other crap on television. So, to the exent I seemed to imply you INTENTIONALLy selected what is banned from a bias, I apologize, and didn't mean that.

But again, what pissed off slap.

Well...there is Garcia the poster and there was Garcia the moderator. While bias is hard to eliminate, we as a moderating group made choices as a group.


What pissed off SLAP is something SLAP would have to tell you. I don't know. All I know is he had a habit of vulgarly harassing and threatening other posters through differnt forms of communications and had been warned by TJ around the april timeframe. He started doing it to me, and I pulled the trigger on giving him a 7 day rest. He then proceded to create multiple user accounts to antagonize me, and who knows what else.

[Rock Chalk]

:yawn:

Im setting the over/under on 10 days.

Taking th over.

[Garcia Bronco]

After reading the OP, I was stunned as to the absurdity of the military, war-mongering tone of the "appeal". After reading Meck;s post, I would say that Slap has no place on this Board if he wants to continue posting the crap he did; he deserved to be banned for another month or so.

What riles me is that he banning process is rather inconsistent. I have seen crud put out by trolls hereon, but they are not banned. I suspect it has to do with whether the trolls excite traffic or not. Slap did not exactly excite traffic; he excited morbid humor against what he percieved as an authority figure. Frankly, many of the posters hereon are long past the teenage years, and shoud probably man up to their own adulthood.

Would your mother like to read what *you* sometimes post here? Even the mulolets shoul;d grow up some day. There is little humor in stupidity and baiting.


I agree. I won't lie. This senario has caused me to look within. While I don't feel I have done anything I wrong, I can say that I came to the same conclusion. What would my mother think about some of the things I post? Some stuff she would be proud of, and others she wouldn't. I am going to try to do less of the latter. that's one of my take aways.

[NaptownChief]

I go on vacation for a few weeks and the board falls apart. Seriously, what did happen with Slappy and Garcia?

Watching Slap go hard core on the incredibly ignorant is the main reason I even enjoy this board.

If Slap stays away, one of the positives for you guys is that you probably won't have to see me near as much. Without his entertainment this board won't be much more than a bunch of homers rubbing each other talking about how virtually every Bronco player is one of the greatest in the league and how you just can't believe some writer didn't anoint the Broncos as the Super Bowl favorite.

[Hotrod]

I go on vacation for a few weeks and the board falls apart. Seriously, what did happen with Slappy and Garcia?

Watching Slap go hard core on the incredibly ignorant is the main reason I even enjoy this board.

If Slap stays away, one of the positives for you guys is that you probably won't have to see me near as much. Without his entertainment this board won't be much more than a bunch of homers rubbing each other talking about how virtually every Bronco player is one of the greatest in the league and how you just can't believe some writer didn't anoint the Broncos as the Super Bowl favorite.

:welcome: have a great life

[Jason in LA]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.


Man, I haven't read anything like that around here in about...a week. ;D

Slap's return looks like it's going to be an event. Some will be happy, some will be rolling their eyes. Should be fun.

[NaptownChief]

:welcome: have a great life



Why wouldn't I......it has been to this point.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

After reading the OP, I was stunned as to the absurdity of the military, war-mongering tone of the "appeal". After reading Meck;s post, I would say that Slap has no place on this Board if he wants to continue posting the crap he did; he deserved to be banned for another month or so.
You think he just said that crap in the last few weeks or something? He has been putting his thoughts into those type of terms for months/years here. The fact that Taco and the mods condoned that for whatever reason, for so long, is a big part of the problem of what happened now.

[bronco militia]

good lord...there are a bunch f'n crybabies around here..

if you don't like someone, why the **** do you need to go run and tell someone else? grow the **** up

[Jason in LA]

Would your mother like to read what *you* sometimes post here?

I'd hate for my mother to see what I post here. ;D

But I don't think she'd be totally shocked. She has a good idea of what's going on.

[DenverBrit]

I misstated. I think every moderator brings his own bias with him. it's really no different from the flak Colin Powell's kid got for the brooha over Janet Jacksons boob compared to the other crap on television. So, to the exent I seemed to imply you INTENTIONALLy selected what is banned from a bias, I apologize, and didn't mean that.

But again, what pissed off slap.

Which occasion? :clown:

[broncosteven]

Without his entertainment this board won't be much more than a bunch of homers rubbing each other ....

Please use NaptownChief to replace rubbing in future posts you Hotrod! Go Broncobuff your dog!

Mecking Bobs your information minister!

[Jason in LA]

:welcome: have a great life

Nice. ;D

[Paladin]

I understood the point made that these were quotes taken from posts over time. But my point stands.

The lack of civility and common sense in many posts hereon are appalling.

The mullet above - whom I have on ignore but he was quoted - displays a remarkable lack of manners and civility. Of course, we have come to expect that from the chief fans who come around here, looking for validation.

I come to this board for takes on the Broncos. I skip over a lot of crap, and I then go to another board to find info. Frankly, the off-season is far too long, but the annual meltdown to teenaged and otherwise juvenile crapola should be curtailed.....

[DenverBrit]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.

Damn, after reading that, maybe Slap would be better posting on the CrapPlanet.
The IQ on both boards would go up. ;D

[NaptownChief]

- whom I have on ignore but he was quoted - displays a remarkable lack of manners and civility.


How the heck would this bozo know that if he truly has me on ignore....either he is lying about having me on ignore or he is just making crap up about my manners and civility.

Paladin, how does your mother feel about liars?

[Mtbrncofn]

I would really like to have Slappy back. He makes it more fun around these parts.

[dbfan4life]

Ha!

Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.

What's worse is that one of these posts (I don't remember which one) was defended by our fearless leader. Slap was a retaliating to something another poster said that Slap didn't agree with. Taco basically said that if you want to be a dumbass (which that other poster was being in that thread) it's OK to have death wished upon you or a family member. I like many of Slap's football takes (and have agreed with a lot of them) but there has to be a line of unacceptability regardless of the context of the thread.

[AboveAverage]

Moved?

[Garcia Bronco]

You think he just said that crap in the last few weeks or something? He has been putting his thoughts into those type of terms for months/years here. The fact that Taco and the mods condoned that for whatever reason, for so long, is a big part of the problem of what happened now.

I agree

[Taco John]

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the return of Slap if I were anyone.

[Mtbrncofn]

Well that sucks.

[Rock Chalk]

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the return of Slap if I were anyone.

Boo freakin hoo.

[Needa Pass Rush]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=23&dateline=1176422668

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the return of Slap if I were anyone.Did he tell you he isn't coming back?

[Needa Pass Rush]

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the return of Slap if I were anyone.

You must have heard some secret stuff. ^5

[bendog]

What's odd though, imo, is that gonzo posted something about my wife, and no one made a peep. Which is fine by me, btw. However, it seems to me that telling someone to **** off or something is really less an internet abuse that getting on someone's family. Moreover, that's merely one of gonzo's objectionable moves.

I can see banning Eye Patch. Seriously, I left the SSJ board because of his personal attacks on me, which were largely brought on about his initial support for bushii's war, and baja's and my questioning the rationale and wisdom. Patch eventually abandoned that cause. Patch's posts were largely just personal attacks. And Mock's posts are/were often drunken rambles.

But when moderator's start banning what they find offensive, it's going to be selective. There's simply no way around that, even if there are published, and supposedly objective, standards. And that's true in every arena. For example, the NYTimes had different standards for Judith Miller compared to other writers, and it caused not only resentment amogst the writers but also a major embarrassment for the Times.

Still, it's TJ's board, so he can do as he likes. Imo it's akin to when Patch or someone was dissing Meck over his bus. It's his money to spend as he wants.

I'm still curious as to what set Slap off this time. 99% of the time I agreed with his football and non-football takes. His man-love obsession with Ulracher and fantasy notions of how shanny could have traded up for him were an exception (-:

[bronco militia]

Boo freakin hoo.


I like slap but yeah, no doubt

[Florida_Bronco]

What's odd though, imo, is that gonzo posted something about my wife, and no one made a peep.

Just for the record, I despise Gonzo and would have been all over that if I saw him say that.

[Garcia Bronco]

What's odd though, imo, is that gonzo posted something about my wife, and no one made a peep.


Yep..I have no patience for that either. Had I saw it I wouldn't have let it be.

[theAPAOps5]

Isn't Gonzo on a break now? I mean it sounds like he deserved it way sooner but at least he is banned now.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I dont have gonzo on ignore but I do skip about 75% of his posts. He is right there is racism and he is in front of the line. On the slap note he broke the rules several times and he got hit this time he is actually pretty lucky this hasnt dropped on him a few years ago. If he doesnt want to come back its his choice.

[Rock Chalk]

I like slap but yeah, no doubt

Me too, but if he wants to be a baby and not come back the only people that care are his groupies.

[Meck77]

Me too, but if he wants to be a baby and not come back the only people that care are his groupies.

Exactly. Along the lines with what you are saying STG I think another forum would be perfect but not sure why Taco should provide a sub forum for people that don't like the site. Seems like they should take the initiative to start another board. I think it would be a win win. Those that don't like the site move on and it would alleviate Taco and the mods from trying to satisfy people that don't like the policies in place here. Very simple.

I made the mistake of trying to make the tailgates a one size fits all kinda deal also but I learned. I had people complaining to me that the party was too big, I had people complaining that they weren't big enough, I had people complaining to me that their beer was disappearing from the cooler, I had people complaining they didn't get enough food, I had people complaining that the party was too roudy, I had people complaining that they didn't like so and so hanging around the tailgate....

Hell there were people complaining about the tailgates online that had never been to any of them. Ha!


.Yadda yadda yadda. At the end of the day they were always a damn good time for the majority and those that wanted to participate in them. That's it. Very simple. It's natural selection at it's finest.:thumbsup:

The good thing about the tailgates vs the online tailgate is that the drama get's left online. People don't act like a-holes to one another when they are face to face like they do here. People find enough common ground to have a good time. It's unfortunate that some people don't take the opportunity to put a name to face but it isn't for everyone. I've learned that over the years also.

I am counting down the days to the Raiderhategate! :) Hmm I may have just coined a new phrase.

[Requiem]

Why do people get so upset over a message board? I got banned and for good reason, but that didn't stop me from coming back. This place is internet crack. I want it!

[TailgateNut]

Exactly. Along the lines with what you are saying STG I think another forum would be perfect but not sure why Taco should provide a sub forum for people that don't like the site. Seems like they should take the initiative to start another board. I think it would be a win win. Those that don't like the site move on and it would alleviate Taco and the mods from trying to satisfy people that don't like the policies in place here. Very simple.

I made the mistake of trying to make the tailgates a one size fits all kinda deal also but I learned. I had people complaining to me that the party was too big, I had people complaining that they weren't big enough, I had people complaining to me that their beer was disappearing from the cooler, I had people complaining they didn't get enough food, I had people complaining that the party was too roudy, I had people complaining that they didn't like so and so hanging around the tailgate.....Yadda yadda yadda. At the end of the day they were always a damn good time for the majority and those that wanted to participate in them. That's it. Very simple. It's natural selection at it's finest.:thumbsup:

I am counting down the days to the Raiderhategate! :) Hmm I may have just coined a new phrase.


Just remember the person at the controls, drives the (bus, board, tailgate....etc.), and if you don't like it your options are limited!:~ohyah!:

[Crushaholic]

There's really no reason to come back right now. If football season gets here and Slap doesn't return, that's a completely different matter..

[Broncoman13]

Slap's posting privileges were reinstated Monday, and the avatar of his late, beloved Great Pyrenees 'Bronco' reappeared. That photo was a comforting sight for many of us, we count on it to steel us to the tasks that lie ahead in the 2007 season.

However, a short time later, the avatar disappeared, and an Abraham Lincoln quotation about man's character and abuse of power appeared. It sounded eerily like his own epitaph ... but I cannot stand by while he shuffles off this mortal orange coil.




Even the greatest of field Generals cannot Slap the enlisted men with impugnity Slap! Patton himself was robbed of the glory of leading and army onto the shores of Normany after this slap Slap ...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8246/pattonslapfs0.jpg

. . . . . . . . . . . . ^^^ . . . . . . . . . . . . ^^^ . . . . . . . . ^^^
. . . . . . . . . Garcia Bronco . . . . . . Riddell Helmet . . . . . . Slap



But he came BACK!

Applying your own quote of Abraham Lincoln to YOU, sir: YOUR character will now be tested. Now, when you have the power to rob this community of your intelligent, incisive and often stinging presence. DO NOT ABUSE THAT POWER! And, do not rob yourself of the glory of wading ashore with the rest of us as the 2007 Denver Broncos Invasion opens camp mere days from now .... as the many posters below will echo - Your Broncos Community needs you!

So exercise this power with the true character we know you possess - and return! Like MacArthur did in the Phillipines ... like Patton did to the Third Army!


The OrangeMane Army commands you .... FRONT AND CENTER!

.


This was a joke right?

[BroncoBuff]

No, it wasn't a joke ... I saw he took down the picture of his dog Bronco, and I figured that meant he wasn't coming back. This looks like a special year for the Broncos, and I don't wanna lose the guy.

I would try reaching out in a similar way to any one of 20 or 30 or more guys I like around here who looked like they were walking out. I like the personalities and interaction as much as the football, personally.

[DomCasual]

What's odd though, imo, is that gonzo posted something about my wife, and no one made a peep.

That's crazy, man! Who could say something bad about your wife - other than, you know, her taste in men. ;)

[bpc]

While I don't agree with some things that Slap posted, I have been around him on these BB's long enough to know that he doesn't just do things unprovoked. Case in point and Llama even took me to the thread where he admitted telling slap to dig up his dead dog and go **** it.

Is that fair AND should Slap forgive a person that says something so stupid?

People who didn't even know Jim understood his feelings for his four legged friend. He loved that dog like somebody would love a wife, or a family member.

Slap is cynical and can be crude and very much too the point. He has an opinion like anybody else on this board.

I think a few members on this board like to act "mightier than thou" and throw their big sticks around towards anybody who doesn't agree with their opinion or thoughts.

This isn't one persons board, its the peoples board.

If Slap got suspended off of here, why don't we take a look at the people who might have instigated it?

Hey, why doesn't anybody on this board go dig up something dear to them and go **** it. Its okay to say right because we are only punishing people that respond to it?

[Garcia Bronco]

While I don't agree with some things that Slap posted, I have been around him on these BB's long enough to know that he doesn't just do things unprovoked. Case in point and Llama even took me to the thread where he admitted telling slap to dig up his dead dog and go **** it.

Is that fair AND should Slap forgive a person that says something so stupid?

People who didn't even know Jim understood his feelings for his four legged friend. He loved that dog like somebody would love a wife, or a family member.

Slap is cynical and can be crude and very much too the point. He has an opinion like anybody else on this board.

I think a few members on this board like to act "mightier than thou" and throw their big sticks around towards anybody who doesn't agree with their opinion or thoughts.

This isn't one persons board, its the peoples board.

If Slap got suspended off of here, why don't we take a look at the people who might have instigated it?

Hey, why doesn't anybody on this board go dig up something dear to them and go **** it. Its okay to say right because we are only punishing people that respond to it?

Most of those people have been suspended at one time or another due to that kind of posting. I don't mind folks disagreeing...it's a discussion board...disagreement is a product of it. But we can disagree with out the vulgar insults. IMO, regardless of provocation...that doesn't excuse actions by anyone. Granted..those instigating in a equally vulgar way deserve their punishment as well. But this is a differnt situation.

[broncosteven]

it's a discussion board...disagreement is a product of it. But we can disagree with out the vulgar insults.

I'm just here to rattle all you punks up :boxing: and make you my Sassy.

That's just how I roll.

[Garcia Bronco]

I'm just here to rattle all you punks up :boxing: and make you my Sassy.

That's just how I roll.

That's what everybody says. :)

[ZachKC]

Yep..I have no patience for that either. Had I saw it I wouldn't have let it be.

Since when do personal insults at people warrant mod action around here?

[Manassa Mauler]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.

How many were directed at Gonzo? Those that were are obviously within the realm of acceptable.

[JCMElway]

Since when do personal insults at people warrant mod action around here?

Never. So screw you, A-Hole! ;)

[ZachKC]

Never. So screw you, A-Hole! ;)

:approve:

[clean]

Ha!

Ok I'll play. There is no doubt he is the victim in all of this.


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9092/pariszt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-03


Taco and the mods needlessly singled out Slap and this may be the single greatest American tragedy since 9-11. Please...please...come on back Slap. This board cannot function without your spirit.

Some of his famous last words............




Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Tell your two-bit whore of a mom I said hello, boy. Ugliest b**** I ever impregnated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Hopefully someone you love will get killed, mother****er.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Did you inherit your di******ing skills from your dad, or did he train you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Somewhere you mom is sucking off a couple gangbangers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Slap-
Go suck another dick, little man.


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3323/shanepn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[bendog]

Slap reminded me of Shane. Only Slap's a lot taller. It's truly bull****.

[Northman]

What's worse is that one of these posts (I don't remember which one) was defended by our fearless leader. Slap was a retaliating to something another poster said that Slap didn't agree with. Taco basically said that if you want to be a dumbass (which that other poster was being in that thread) it's OK to have death wished upon you or a family member. I like many of Slap's football takes (and have agreed with a lot of them) but there has to be a line of unacceptability regardless of the context of the thread.


Slap said it too Gonzo.

[Odysseus]

good lord...there are a bunch f'n crybabies around here..

if you don't like someone, why the **** do you need to go run and tell someone else? grow the **** up

This is why you have your own similie! :militia:

[Blueflame]

See the stone set in your eyes
See the thorn twist in your side
I wait for you

Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait
And I wait without you

With or without you
With or without you

Through the storm we reach the shore
You give it all but I want more
And Im waiting for you

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

My hands are tied
My body bruised, shes got me with
Nothing to win and
Nothing left to lose

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you
With or without you

[Hotrod]

Since when do personal insults at people warrant mod action around here?


Seeing how your an illegal alien from chefistan you dont get a vote or opinon. Move along ;)

[BroncoBuff]

I would lose a ton of respect for -slap- if he stays away.

I don't know the whole story but Garcia has taken responsibilty for his actions. -slap- should accept responsibility for his and move on.

That said I do like his football takes and hope he will be posting here again.

BTW I wrote this before I saw Meck's post above.

QFT

[CBF1]

I read this entire thread nakkid :)

Now that is cause for a ban

[CBF1]

Woooo hooooo

Last post before it got moved. Do I get full credit for that :)

[dbfan4life]

Slap said it too Gonzo.

Yeah, Gonzo's deserved a lot of the crap that's been thrown his way. Regardless, is that type of retaliation acceptable. Can I tell someone to crawl under a rock and die, or I hope they die, or I hope their mother dies if they're being idiots? If Slap decides not to post here again, it would be a loss because he really had some good takes but I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it if he doesn't

[Rock Chalk]

See the stone set in your eyes
See the thorn twist in your side
I wait for you

Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait
And I wait without you

With or without you
With or without you

Through the storm we reach the shore
You give it all but I want more
And Im waiting for you

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

My hands are tied
My body bruised, shes got me with
Nothing to win and
Nothing left to lose

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you

With or without you
With or without you
I cant live
With or without you
With or without you

I should neg rep you for singing U2 anywhere in public.

[Blueflame]

I should neg rep you for singing U2 anywhere in public.

Hehehe... perhaps you'd prefer 3 Doors Down....

A hundred days have made me older
Since the last time that I saw your pretty face
A thousand lies have made me colder
And I don't think I can look at this the same
But all the miles that separate
Disappear now when I'm dreaming of your face

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight it's only you and me

The miles just keep rollin'
As the people leave their way to say hello
I've heard this life is overrated
But I hope that it gets better as we go
Ooooh Yeaahh

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl it's only you and me

Everything I know
And anywhere i go
It gets hard but it won't take away my love
When the last one falls
When it's all said and done
It gets hard
But it won't take away my love
Oooooooooohh

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl it's only you and me
Yeeeeeeahhhh Ohh Ohh

[broncosteven]

anyone know who is posting under the name manassa mauler or cheese1?

just wondering

[Blueflame]

I know who "cheese 1" is...

[Meck77]

anyone know who is posting under the name manassa mauler or cheese1?

just wondering

Pretty obvious it's two long time members. Not sure why Manassa wasn't able to speak their mind under their previous name though?

[rbackfactory80]

Breaking news, Slap is really Watermock!

[Rock Chalk]

cheese is Hotrod.

Never see the other two.

[Meck77]

cheese is Hotrod.

.

Really....Well if so HotRod you need to work on Cheese's humor because I thought cheese was some 10 year old kid acting like a fool.

[Blueflame]

Y'know whose last appearance on the Mane was only one day after Mock's last visit? Errand...

Things that make you go "hmmmmm.... " ;D

[AboveAverage]

Manassa didn't have the balls to neg rep me under his/her real name. Multiple accounts allowed here?

[BroncoBuff]

The Manassa Mauler is no Jack Dempsey .... I'm thinkin' he or she is:



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5756/yellowyl9.jpg

[Sassy]

I read this entire thread nakkid :)

Now that is cause for a ban

Yikes!

Ha!

There seems to be waaaaaaaaaay too much male bonding around here lately...what's up with that?

[Odysseus]

Breaking news, Slap is really Watermock!

You mean -Slap- has been -Slapping- himself? That sounds perverse.

[Northman]

Yeah, Gonzo's deserved a lot of the crap that's been thrown his way. Regardless, is that type of retaliation acceptable. Can I tell someone to crawl under a rock and die, or I hope they die, or I hope their mother dies if they're being idiots? If Slap decides not to post here again, it would be a loss because he really had some good takes but I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it if he doesn't

I wouldnt say its acceptable but like you said Gonzo goes out of his way to instigate a lot of the reactions he gets. Not just from Slap but many people on this board. In my opinion if you get rid of guys like Gonzo who are really less valuable to this board as opposed to guys like Slap than i think you've cut out at least half of the issues that tend to arise like that. Thats why i find it funny that people were so eager to jump on TJ for allowing Slap to post that in response to Gonzo. TJ recognized what Gonzo was doing and simple told him to shut up and quit crying when he knew he was the one pushing the buttons. Obviously i dont know Slap personally so if he doesnt come back it is what it is. I would say there are at least 3-5 people you could get rid of on this board that would solve a lot of the " Drama " issues that we have here.

[Hogan11]

The good thing about the tailgates vs the online tailgate is that the drama get's left online. People don't act like a-holes to one another when they are face to face like they do here. People find enough common ground to have a good time. It's unfortunate that some people don't take the opportunity to put a name to face but it isn't for everyone. I've learned that over the years also.

QFT.

I remember being a little concerned with what I was getting myself into the first time I went out to Denver for a home game with the bus crew...not knowing whether someone was gonna try to get in my face about whatever I may have posted here or not...I shouldn't have bothered because all that stuff was left at the city limits upon entry. Matter of fact, meeting the faces behind the screen names seemed to smooth out a lot of whatever issues there were without even bringing them up in conversation.

As for the Slap and Garcia incident, this is the first time I've weighed in on any of it...and it's to basically say that I'm not going to comment on it any further than this....the problem is between them, it in no way involves me and it's none of my business, so I'm going Switzerland. I have nothing bad to say about Slap at all, we've never had a problem and the guy has helped me out whenever I've asked for it. I hope he returns whenever he's ready to. I've never had any problems to speak of with Garcia either...so there ya go.

[gunns]

Y'know whose last appearance on the Mane was only one day after Mock's last visit? Errand...

Things that make you go "hmmmmm.... " ;D

Naw, Mock had drunken rambles and were maybe slightly amusing or just plain stupid. Errand's were psychotic in nature and called for meds to be given to the poster.

[Blueflame]

Naw, Mock had drunken rambles and were maybe slightly amusing or just plain stupid. Errand's were psychotic in nature and called for meds to be given to the poster.

Yeah... just found it interesting that Errand's last visit here was the day after Mock's last visit. But then, it's not all that unusual for Errand to disappear in the offseason, either... he's a more sporadic poster; not like Mock, who has rarely missed a day of posting.

[CBF1]

I wonder if Mocks post-per-day is under 40 yet ;D

[theAPAOps5]

I wonder if Mocks post-per-day is under 40 yet ;D

Yep 30.67

[Kaylore]

Slap said it too Gonzo.

Then most people here would forgive him for those comments.

Slap reminds me of Dr. Cox from Scrubs: A really good hearted guy with overdeveloped sense of vengeance and anger probably from something bad in his childhood.

I think Garcia Bronco baited Slap with that pedophilia thread where Garcia tried argue that pedophilia is ok. If GB really believes what he wrote, I don't have much respect for him on that level either. I think he trolls his own board and doesn't deserve to be mod. I've discussed this with many here I know I'm not alone in this belief.

I do think Slap deserved to be banned for making multiple accounts, and he's regularly let his anger get the best of him. I think that one thread about Brandon Marshall when he jumped to conclusions and called him all sorts of horrible things when nothing happened was a good example. Then he wished for everyone who supported Marshall to have pacman Jones-types date our sisters or something. Obviously inappropriate. The actual banning could be viewed as something in that sense, but it was for a banning from Garcia where GB overstepped his boundaries. You see he banned Slap seven days for saying "bite me, troll" to him, which is a total joke. Then Slap made another account and Garcia gave him a lifetime ban. Abuse of power, don't you think?

Taco upheld the banning but cut it down to a week I think. So far as I can tell, he left GB as a Mod which is and will continue to be a total joke. I understand the first move and strongly disagree with the second. It sends the wrong message to the board and Taco's risked estranging some of the best posters on this board from him in Slap, Tredici and whoever else wants to go with Slap because Taco for whatever reason thinks GB should still be Mod. This despite the fact that Garcia Bronco has regularly shown the inability to command respect from the community, he abused his power in dealing with Slap, has abused his power in other ways, and he trolls his own board.

Now it's Taco's board, so can do whatever he wants. And to be fair, If it were my board, I'd do whatever I wanted as well. But I'm going on record that move isn't something I'm fond of. In fact I'll say it's a mistake. I know for a fact that Slap probably won't post here as long as GB is a mod, and the way he oversteps his bounds coupled with his personal dislike for Slap, who can really blame him? Still, it's in Slap's hands whether he wants to come back or not.

It's dark times for the Orange Mane, my friends. Dark times indeed.:( :thumbsdow

In fact don't be surprised to see Garcia Bronco ban me for this post.
:~ohyah!:

EDIT*** It has now come to my attention that GB lost his moderation abilities. Given that this is so, disregard the above rant.

[Sassy]

Garcia is no longer a mod.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=Kaylore;1637344]

It's dark times for the Orange Mane, my friends. Dark times indeed.:( :thumbsdow

QUOTE]

Amen

[Crowpointer]

It's dark times for the Orange Mane, my friends. Dark times indeed.:( :thumbsdow

:~ohyah!:

This place is like the Roman empire at the very end. Good times are still ahead but it's best days are definitely behind it.

[TheDave]

I think I'm dumber for having followed this soap opera... I guess I'm in the minority here, but I'm surprised how serious people take these online "friendships". As for the "Dark Days" comments... I doubt it. This place has changed many times since I've been around. Honestly i don't notice that it is any worse or better than any other time...

It's still the place:

...to get the Bronco News first.

...for great Bronco takes.

...For Kahns camp reports.

...to watch Rascal melt down 15 minutes into free agency.

...To read Mocks drunken rants...errr... hold off on that one :)

[Rock Chalk]

This place is like the Roman empire at the very end. Good times are still ahead but it's best days are definitely behind it.

Dont be so melodramatic.

I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.

You know what? We had a better board before they came. They didnt make it any worse, but they came and along with a flood of other schmucks.

When they came we lost a lot of good posters. Iowa Broncofan is probably the best poster that was ever on here, and he hasnt been around in forever. Tom G was another fantastic poster who rarely shows up anymore. XTreme Reaction,, clarkster, wabbit who only posts occassionally now was here all the time before.

This board does not rely on a small clique of posters. If that was the case it wouldnt have survived the first wave of new immigrants. Slap is gone, I doubt he comes back, so what. Yeah he had SOME good football takes, but he was also arrogant and holier than thou in his attitude about everything. And a prick to boot. He was a snob when it came to baseball, and he demeaned everyone who disagreed with him. ITs why I liked him, he reminded me of me. That doesnt change the fact that he is one of the biggest pussies I have ever seen that refused to come back after he was deservedly banned.

And if Tredici, God love her because I do, doesnt want to come back because her buddy Jim was tossed because he crossed the line, thats her choice. We lost a good poster and we lost a prick, but guess what, there will be other good posters, and other pricks and other comedians. This place isnt darker because it lost Slap, it actually might be a little brighter.

[ZachKC]

Dont be so melodramatic.

I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.

You know what? We had a better board before they came. They didnt make it any worse, but they came and along with a flood of other schmucks.

When they came we lost a lot of good posters. Iowa Broncofan is probably the best poster that was ever on here, and he hasnt been around in forever. Tom G was another fantastic poster who rarely shows up anymore. XTreme Reaction,, clarkster, wabbit who only posts occassionally now was here all the time before.

This board does not rely on a small clique of posters. If that was the case it wouldnt have survived the first wave of new immigrants. Slap is gone, I doubt he comes back, so what. Yeah he had SOME good football takes, but he was also arrogant and holier than thou in his attitude about everything. And a prick to boot. He was a snob when it came to baseball, and he demeaned everyone who disagreed with him. ITs why I liked him, he reminded me of me. That doesnt change the fact that he is one of the biggest pussies I have ever seen that refused to come back after he was deservedly banned.

And if Tredici, God love her because I do, doesnt want to come back because her buddy Jim was tossed because he crossed the line, thats her choice. We lost a good poster and we lost a prick, but guess what, there will be other good posters, and other pricks and other comedians. This place isnt darker because it lost Slap, it actually might be a little brighter.

:thanku:

[CBF1]

Some real good takes the last few posts (zack who is on ignore does not count) I agree with you and Kaylor relax bro and breath. TJ posted like 3 or 4 days ago that Garcia is no longer a mod.

I like the mane and do not stay around because of 1 single poster. I feel for tred, but if she leaves because Slappy is being a wuss, then that is something she will have to deal with. The Mane is still the best place on the web to gather bronco info and meet some pretty damn fine people as well.

[elsid13]

-Slap- comes back great, but if he doesn't then I wish him the best of luck. Beside there was a lot more hatred when I first started lurking here then there is today. SOB will do that to people.

I stand by my statement more poster need to get laid

[Kaylore]

I've just found this:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=57919

Before I make this announcement, I want to offer apologies to the board for my role in the recent drama that has sprung up around this place. While I have very good reasons for why I haven't been able to be as "hands on" as I have in the past in keeping this train on the tracks, the fact is that I've let things slip a little, and the board is currently paying for it. As such, the buck stops with me, and I accept full responsibility for the recent drama. Over the next month, I will be taking steps to correct this situation in order to ensure that our community has the best possible experience in this very promising season.

With great regrets, it's my displeasure to inform the community that I have relieved my good friend Garcia Bronco of his moderation duties. This is a tremendous blow to myself personally, and I believe the community at large (despite the recent criticism that he's been under). And just so that everybody hears it first hand, this decision does not involve any moderating action that Garcia made while he was in practice. And while I hate to elaborate any further, I feel that I must due to the way that this went down in order to squash any rumors an innuendo and try to move forward and put this entire series of episodes behind us. I've deliberated long and hard about this tonight, and have come to the conclusion that the community deserves an explination so that all doubt about why it "really" happend can be put to rest and we can move forward.

Sadly, the reason that I'm dismissing Garcia as a moderator stems from a breach of confidence. It's come to my attention that he was taking personal communications during a recent moderating episode and forwarding them outside the moderator's circle of trust. As an administrator, I have to be able to confide in my moderators and talk through tough issues having full faith that those messages won't be spread past the folks who they are intended for. I can't have my moderators forwarding personal messages sent during moderating disputes (while the dispute is live and in process) to their friends. It undermines the whole process, and breaches an obvious trust.

With that said, I want to thank Garcia for his service here and the friendship we've had. I'm personally hurt over this situation and saddend that it had to come to this. It's my desire for Garcia to remain a member of this community as a regular user, though I can understand if he chooses to leave.

As a final word, I will note that I am currently writing this from vacation, where I logged into the Mane to check in on things. This isn't the decision that I wanted to make on the first night that I arrived at my destination, but it had to be done swiftly once it the situation was presented. I will try to address any feedback or criticism that I can on this, but I need to also focus on my family and mental health while I'm on this trip. As such, I'm going to lock this thread and ask that any feedback be given to me via PM or the rep system. I don't want this thread to devolve into a Garcia bash session (or worse).

I apologize for the further drama that this situation brings to what has already been a dramatic 7 days, and thank people for their trust and patience as I work with our moderators to improve things moving forward.

-TJ

So I guess that takes of GB. In that case I'm very comfortable with both Slap getting banned and Garcia getting let go. I think he'll do better as a poster as he was too emotionally attached to the board to remain objective.

As for Slap, I suspect he'll take his banning and eventually come back and be a good boy. Just a hunch. ;)

[Sassy]

too emotionally attached to the board

You guys are making way too much of this stuff...

The off-season is almost over...we'll get Bronco news soon! :egbgb:

[MechanicalBull]

There are definitley posters that I read all the time and some I don't read at all, but when all is said and done this is a message board and a place to get news on the denver broncos. Like what Sassy said I think some are making way too much of this one way or the other.

On the bright side of things we aren't that far away from training camp and preseason so hopefully by then all this will be behind everyone and we can just talk about football.

[BroncoBuff]

Khan's post here is the best summation of recent events I've seen yet.

Some feedback:


Slap reminds me of Dr. Cox from Scrubs: A really good hearted guy with overdeveloped sense of vengeance and anger probably from something bad in his childhood.
I agree 100% with every word except maybe "childhood." I had the same kinda feeling about Slap, but wondered if perhaps someone close to him had been victimized at some point, and the perpetrator was never caught, acquitted or punished too slightly. I see Slap as a law-abiding American in every sense of the word. Oh, he does want the 12-year old kids off his lawn ... but deep down he likes them.



I think Garcia Bronco baited Slap with that pedophilia thread where Garcia tried argue that pedophilia is ok. If GB really believes what he wrote, I don't have much respect for him on that level either. I think he trolls his own board and doesn't deserve to be mod. I've discussed this with many here I know I'm not alone in this belief.
I'm not sure I read that part of the 40/16 year old thread, but I did see Garcia catch a lotta flack for merely posting the accurate definition of the word "pedophilia." It means the molestation of PRE-PUBESCENT children only. By definition. I have to take some responsibility there, because I (accurately) defended Garcia's definition. I don't recall him advocating the guy's behavior, but I'll cop to posting that it seemed mild in comparison to a lotta stuff out there. The coach seemed to have "groomed" her from age 14, which is very troubling. But the girl was mature and a good student, and there was no evidence of a sexual relationship or any crime. The school district didn't even discipline the guy, so I kinda poo-poohed it. Of course such a relationship is WAY wrong ... but posters were talking some crazy stuff in there - breaking the guy's legs, even killing him. Emotions - especially anger - are never preferable to intellect and reason.



one thread about Brandon Marshall when he jumped to conclusions and called him all sorts of horrible things when nothing happened was a good example. Then he wished for everyone who supported Marshall to have pacman Jones-types date our sisters or something. Obviously inappropriate.
I remember that one too ... it seemed to many of us that the arrest was a pretty "chippy beef" as they say. But Slap, much like Russell Crowe's "Detective Bud White" in L.A. Confidential, was hell-bent on protecting the woman, and giving here every benefit of the doubt and then some. I don't mind that, in fact I admire it. But then he went on to say there were other covert Marshall character issues that caused him to slip to the 4th round in the draft. I asked him twice what they were, but never heard back. I took his silence (however presumptively) as a tacit admission he had let his anger get the better of him.



GB banned Slap seven days for saying "bite me, which is a total joke. Then Slap made another account and Garcia gave him a lifetime ban. Abuse of power, don't you think?
Yes, it was a joke ... and yes, it was an abuse of power.

About 3 or 4 months ago I was PM'ing all the mods with one of my (many, regular) complaints ;D As I typed in the Mods addresses, I realized that in two years I knew and had interacted with all of them - except Garcia. Now I don't actually know what "troll" means, but I remember thinking the only times I'd noticed him was when he popped into the middle of a thread and made semi-incendiary, argumentative comments. Kinda like Alec, but with less personality and less insight.



Taco upheld the banning but cut it down to a week I think. ... Taco's risked estranging some of the best posters on this board from him in Slap, Tredici and whoever else wants to go with Slap
I won't break a confidence, but I have it on very good authority that Taco John wanted only a 24-hour suspension for Slap. The 1-week decision was a compromise between the Mods. If TJ were to go public that '24 hours' was his suggestion, along with the fact he relieved Garcia of Mod duties, there would be little or nothing left for Slap to protest. An empty boycott. I would be disappointed in him if he stayed away then. If anything, his protests resulted - however indirectly - in stripping GB of Mod duties. Shouldn't he feel the victor? Triumphant?



It's dark times for the Orange Mane, my friends. Dark times indeed.:( :thumbsdown
No doubt ... I might've known this off-season was too good to be true.


.

[DenverBrit]

-Slap- comes back great, but if he doesn't then I wish him the best of luck. Beside there was a lot more hatred when I first started lurking here then there is today. SOB will do that to people.

I stand by my statement more poster need to get laid

Sound advice. ;D

[Killericon]

No doubt ... I might've known this off-season was too good to be true.

This has been the worst offseason ever, except maybe from a strictly roster-oriented point of view.

[Garcia Bronco]

Then most people here would forgive him for those comments.

Slap reminds me of Dr. Cox from Scrubs: A really good hearted guy with overdeveloped sense of vengeance and anger probably from something bad in his childhood.

I think Garcia Bronco baited Slap with that pedophilia thread where Garcia tried argue that pedophilia is ok.

I never ever argued that pedophilla was okay. I think you need to re-read the thread. I was pointing out to people what pedophilla is actually defined as, since they didn't know. I did not nor do I bait anyone Kaylore.

[Garcia Bronco]

I do think Slap deserved to be banned for making multiple accounts, and he's regularly let his anger get the best of him. I think that one thread about Brandon Marshall when he jumped to conclusions and called him all sorts of horrible things when nothing happened was a good example. Then he wished for everyone who supported Marshall to have pacman Jones-types date our sisters or something. Obviously inappropriate. The actual banning could be viewed as something in that sense, but it was for a banning from Garcia where GB overstepped his boundaries. You see he banned Slap seven days for saying "bite me, troll" to him, which is a total joke. Then Slap made another account and Garcia gave him a lifetime ban. Abuse of power, don't you think?
.[/B]

Again...you don't even know what happened. So I don't really understand how you can begin to comment on it. SLAP had a warning for assaulting people on 4/16/07 steming from PM's he sent to another poster. Meaning by starting in on me he violated that warning. To which he even received another warning. The post wasn't even what you say it was. I did give him a seven day ban, and after he created a 3rd account I told him I was giving him a life time. But that was to get him to stop creating accounts. He was never going to get a lifetime ban. It was never even on the table.

I don't understand where you could have gotten your information.

[Garcia Bronco]

Then most people here would forgive him for those comments.

Slap reminds me of Dr. Cox from Scrubs: A really good hearted guy with overdeveloped sense of vengeance and anger probably from something bad in his childhood.

I think Garcia Bronco baited Slap with that pedophilia thread where Garcia tried argue that pedophilia is ok. If GB really believes what he wrote, I don't have much respect for him on that level either. I think he trolls his own board and doesn't deserve to be mod. I've discussed this with many here I know I'm not alone in this belief.

I do think Slap deserved to be banned for making multiple accounts, and he's regularly let his anger get the best of him. I think that one thread about Brandon Marshall when he jumped to conclusions and called him all sorts of horrible things when nothing happened was a good example. Then he wished for everyone who supported Marshall to have pacman Jones-types date our sisters or something. Obviously inappropriate. The actual banning could be viewed as something in that sense, but it was for a banning from Garcia where GB overstepped his boundaries. You see he banned Slap seven days for saying "bite me, troll" to him, which is a total joke. Then Slap made another account and Garcia gave him a lifetime ban. Abuse of power, don't you think?

Taco upheld the banning but cut it down to a week I think. So far as I can tell, he left GB as a Mod which is and will continue to be a total joke. I understand the first move and strongly disagree with the second. It sends the wrong message to the board and Taco's risked estranging some of the best posters on this board from him in Slap, Tredici and whoever else wants to go with Slap because Taco for whatever reason thinks GB should still be Mod. This despite the fact that Garcia Bronco has regularly shown the inability to command respect from the community, he abused his power in dealing with Slap, has abused his power in other ways, and he trolls his own board.

Now it's Taco's board, so can do whatever he wants. And to be fair, If it were my board, I'd do whatever I wanted as well. But I'm going on record that move isn't something I'm fond of. In fact I'll say it's a mistake. I know for a fact that Slap probably won't post here as long as GB is a mod, and the way he oversteps his bounds coupled with his personal dislike for Slap, who can really blame him? Still, it's in Slap's hands whether he wants to come back or not.

It's dark times for the Orange Mane, my friends. Dark times indeed.:( :thumbsdow

In fact don't be surprised to see Garcia Bronco ban me for this post.
:~ohyah!:

EDIT*** It has now come to my attention that GB lost his moderation abilities. Given that this is so, disregard the above rant.


And finally....


You mean command respect from you? How can you actually testify to what everybody else thinks? I don't know what your problem is, but please leave me out it. I have never abused anything. Please quit saying that or offer proof of your claim. I also do not dislike SLAP. Never have I ever said so...nor do my posts indicate that. I don't dislike anybody here.

[Kaylore]

You mean command respect from you? How can you actually testify to what everybody else thinks? I don't know what your problem is, but please leave me out it. I have never abused anything. Please quit saying that or offer proof of your claim. I also do not dislike SLAP. Never have I ever said so...nor do my posts indicate that. I don't dislike anybody here.
Because we've talked about it Garcia. Dude, you'd be surprised at the number of people on here who honestly think you troll! By troll, I mean make totally ridiculous, amoral comments in threads that send people off the deep end and add little to the conversation at hand. Half the time I don't know if you're serious or just baiting people. You have now assured me you're not baiting which suggests either you actually believe the things you're typing or you're just someone who has a problem of putting your foot in your mouth. Either way, your behavior was inappropriate for a moderator in general and particularly with Slap. It's just my opinion you didn't handle the situation well. Personally I wouldn't want to be a moderator because I wouldn't be able to handle it either! I would likely make some of the same mistakes you did - like not remaining objective and making comments on a whim without considering the outcome.


I won't break a confidence, but I have it on very good authority that Taco John wanted only a 24-hour suspension for Slap. The 1-week decision was a compromise between the Mods. If TJ were to go public that '24 hours' was his suggestion, along with the fact he relieved Garcia of Mod duties, there would be little or nothing left for Slap to protest. An empty boycott. I would be disappointed in him if he stayed away then. If anything, his protests resulted - however indirectly - in stripping GB of Mod duties. Shouldn't he feel the victor? Triumphant?
I talked to Taco as he called me to find out how wide spread the drama of the situation was. He did mention that he felt that Slap's original ban should have only been 24 hours, but felt after the multiple account spamming more was needed. I think Taco did the right thing here on both counts.

[Garcia Bronco]

Because we've talked about it Garcia. Dude, you'd be surprised at the number of people on here who honestly think you troll! By troll, I mean make totally ridiculous, amoral comments in threads that send people off the deep end and add little to the conversation at hand. Half the time I don't know if you're serious or just baiting people. You have now assured me you're not baiting which suggests either you actually believe the things you're typing or you're just someone who has a problem of putting your foot in your mouth. Either way, your behavior was inappropriate for a moderator in general and particularly with Slap. It's just my opinion you didn't handle the situation well. Personally I wouldn't want to be a moderator because I wouldn't be able to handle it either! I would likely make some of the same mistakes you did - like not remaining objective and making comments on a whim without considering the outcome.






I am not a troll. I like to debate issues. And I do not post amoral comments in threads, and I contribute to discussions. It's a discussion board and I do so in a proper manner. If other people fly off the deep end or don't like what I have to say, that is squarely their problem. Because it's their perception that clouds their own judgement, or they take it the wrong way, or take a post out of context. To call me a troll you would have to know intent, and you do not know intent.

In moderation situations, I always was objective. Ask other mods. Seriously...you've got it all wrong.

[Los Broncos]

Once preseaon starts all of this will be a memory.

[BroncoBuff]

Just my phone tonight ....

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REAL AMERICAN MEN ... don't walk away from their friends.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Dont be so melodramatic.
I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.
You know what? We had a better board before they came. They didnt make it any worse, but they came and along with a flood of other schmucks.
Actually, I'm sure the board improved once Slap got here and put you in your place.

[CBF1]

Seriously.... At what point is enough enough? Guys, get over what happened to slap, why it happened and who made it happen. Everyone knows the story already. We all read the thread, saw what was said and what was done and have picked sides.

How many times are you going to rehash this tired topic?

I see alot of Garcia smack going on here, but until you sit here as a mod with the responsibilities that come with that thankless job, why not just STFU and get back to some productive posting.

[BMF Bronco]

**** Slap, he was a prick anyway.

[worm]

What a large, assorted collection of manginas.

[DomCasual]

Seriously.... At what point is enough enough? Guys, get over what happened to slap, why it happened and who made it happen. Everyone knows the story already. We all read the thread, saw what was said and what was done and have picked sides.

How many times are you going to rehash this tired topic?

I see alot of Garcia smack going on here, but until you sit here as a mod with the responsibilities that come with that thankless job, why not just STFU and get back to some productive posting.

Yeah! What he said!

Is this a good place to discuss the prospect of bringing back REP?

[CBF1]

Yeah! What he said!

Is this a good place to discuss the prospect of bringing back REP?

Rep that brother :rofl:

[Northman]

I think Garcia Bronco baited Slap with that pedophilia thread where Garcia tried argue that pedophilia is ok. [/B]


Well, thats not entirely true. I was following that thread from the word go and although Garcia was stirring the pot he was also explaining his stance. I didn't agree with it but it wasn't like he was saying Pedophilia was ok. The problem was some people didn't want to listen to his explanations ( whether they thought he was full of **** or just too angry to understand ) and therefore it got out of control. I don't think Slappy deserved to get banned but GB did warn him before hand. Now, i don't know if TJ had been tightening the rules leading up to that but Slap was warned. Either way, i hope he comes back.

[BroncoBuff]

I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.

You know what? We had a better board before they came.

Yeah, it was better when it was just you and Taco John. I might've known that was how you really felt about him ...

[DomCasual]

Rep that brother :rofl:

Right back atcha! :)

[Rock Chalk]

No dickwad, the board wasnt as big and hence unruly. Like I said, Slap and Tred didnt make the board worse when they came. It was the bazillion other dip****s that came with them.

Kinda like that wave of dip****s that showed up around the same time you did.

[DomCasual]

I really hate to see solid people leave, and I really hope they'll reconsider.

That being said, there are still A LOT of good people here. It's silly to assume that it is the beginning of the end of the OrangeMane.

That being said (part two), I want the people who left to come back. Anyone who has offline access to them needs to tell them that they are missed. And there doesn't seem to be a sound reason for leaving - at least from my perspective. It would be like saying, "I hate the mayor of the town I'm living in. I'm moving to Canada!" It's cutting off your nose to spite your face; not seeing the forest for the trees; insert your own cliche here, if one of those doesn't work for you. Throw in the fact that the mayor is not still the mayor, and there is even less reason.

So, come on! All the cool kids are doing it!

[Rocket 7]

Winstoncup Bronco come back.

[Old Dude]

This has been the worst offseason ever, except maybe from a strictly roster-oriented point of view.

Which is all that most of us really care about.

[Taco John]

I'm going to go ahead and blame Plummer for all of this. ;D

If he hadn't have melted down so utterly and completely, we'd be able to focus this offseason arguing about whether or not we should start Jay or give Plummer one more shot.

But he went and made the decision so obvious that we have nothing to argue about, so we invent things.

This happened once before, the season after Griese fooled everyone into thinking he might actually be something. There was nothing to argue about, and so the board started to cannibalize itself. It was then that I decided to make the main board available to off topics during the off season.

Pre-season can't get here soon enough.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

No dillwad, the board wasnt as big and hence unruly. Like I said, Slap and Tred didnt make the board worse when they came.You never fail to stick your little footsie in your mouth Raenos. It's as regular as the clockwork.

Originally Posted by Alec
Dont be so melodramatic.
I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.You know what? We had a better board before they came.

[Lev Vyvanse]

You never fail to stick your little footsie in your mouth Raenos. It's as regular as the clockwork.

That is some creative editing. Why didn't you use the whole quote?

[Lev Vyvanse]

No dillwad, the board wasnt as big and hence unruly. Like I said, Slap and Tred didnt make the board worse when they came. It was the bazillion other dip****s that came with them.
Kinda like that wave of dip****s that showed up around the same time you did.

You never fail to stick your little footsie in your mouth Raenos. It's as regular as the clockwork.
Dont be so melodramatic.
I was here before Slap and Tredici and Popps came over. Before Kaylore showed up.You know what? We had a better board before they came.

See how thats different?

P.S. Please don't call my boss and tell on me you waste of space.

[Rock Chalk]

I'm going to go ahead and blame Plummer for all of this. ;D

If he hadn't have melted down so utterly and completely, we'd be able to focus this offseason arguing about whether or not we should start Jay or give Plummer one more shot.

But he went and made the decision so obvious that we have nothing to argue about, so we invent things.

This happened once before, the season after Griese fooled everyone into thinking he might actually be something. There was nothing to argue about, and so the board started to cannibalize itself. It was then that I decided to make the main board available to off topics during the off season.

Pre-season can't get here soon enough.

Bwahaha, only Taco can blame Plummer ;D

[Garcia Bronco]

I'm going to go ahead and blame Plummer for all of this. ;D

If he hadn't have melted down so utterly and completely, we'd be able to focus this offseason arguing about whether or not we should start Jay or give Plummer one more shot.

But he went and made the decision so obvious that we have nothing to argue about, so we invent things.

This happened once before, the season after Griese fooled everyone into thinking he might actually be something. There was nothing to argue about, and so the board started to cannibalize itself. It was then that I decided to make the main board available to off topics during the off season.

Pre-season can't get here soon enough.


LMAO

[Taco John]

Bwahaha, only Taco can blame Plummer ;D



:angel:

[BroncoBuff]

So Taco, do you echo Alec's feeling that the board was better with just you and him?

[Jana®]

Yeah! What he said!

Is this a good place to discuss the prospect of bringing back REP?

Heck yeah! Rep! Rep! Rep!:egbgb:

[BroncoBuff]

I kinda like Rep as a back-and-forth 'notes' tool myself.

.

[Blueflame]

So Taco, do you echo Alec's feeling that the board was better with just you and him?

Dunno if I'd say it was "better" back in the early days of the Mane... but with only a few posters, the "feel" of the board was smaller and more intimate. With growth, we have a much more diverse community going here... but it's more difficult to get to know other posters when the forum is so busy. Heck, it's difficult to even read all the new posts. And if you go on vacation for a couple of weeks, you might as well forget it... it's gonna take a significant amount of time to get "back up to speed".

Some people prefer "smaller and more intimate", however... and for them growth makes the forum less enjoyable. Others view it as "the more the merrier" and for them the board is much better now... back then, they might have considered it "boring".

[Hogan11]

God I hated rep....I never (or rarely) gave it out nor did I ever really read it and I was still in the "Top 15" of the most rep list.....much to my chagrin, I'd been happy with zero rep honestly.

The system seemed so phoney and pandering to me....it just felt dirty and insincere most times, so I avoided it and I still do.

I don't need acceptance or approval for what I post...I figure people either get it or they don't and if not, then that's their problem, not mine.

[Requiem]

I don't really get this internet drama. The same crap happens over on Broncomania when someone gets sent packing, or their feelings get hurt and they don't post. I don't have a problem with anyone really, and I don't really care if Slap, or whoever some of the people are come back to the boards. But why is this such "big news" or "drama"?

The Mane is still a great place for quality discussion. There are tons of fantastic posters here. Where we may have lost some "good" posters in those who left, there are still tons of solid posters here, fantastic posters, great posters. When it comes to the discussion of football at an intelligent level during the off-season, of any team fan site - the Mane is probably up there and probably the best.

Posters come and go, for whatever reason.

The Mane won't cease to exist because a few pals left the boards because their feelings got hurt or they're pissed over a little internet drama.

I don't know the full extent of the story, nor do I really care - but I find it hard to believe that something as inconsequential as a little "ban" or a "slap on the wrist" would piss someone off enough to just want to leave the board. I invest full confidence in Taco and the moderating staff for doing their job correctly. I've been banned here once, and I think it was for a week or so. I deserved that ban, but being banned didn't want to make me leave for good.

Oh well. Let's just drop the issue here.

I'm sure Slap has been on here plenty, (not logged in, but "just lurking") as well as the others.

This is probably what some people want. . . attention.

Why give them it?

Oh wait, I guess I'm a hypocrite now. ;)

Regarding the REP SYSTEM, it doesn't really bother me or please me. It's nice to see what people have to say, but there are so many flaws with the system, it's not worth really getting into. I've already been on that debate on Broncomania, no need to do it here.

People should just do what they want.

I laughed my ass off the other day because two posters negged me for quoting Bob. LOL!

[Lev Vyvanse]

I laughed my ass off the other day because two posters negged me for quoting Bob. LOL!

I did that the other day believe me two is the minimum.


Like sands through the hour glass so are the days of our mane.

[Taco John]

So Taco, do you echo Alec's feeling that the board was better with just you and him?




Hell no. Count me in the "more the merrier" category. I love diversity of personality, and accept that with growth comes growing pains. That said, I dislike grown men who act like little kids. Lately, we've had a rash of that.

[bronco610]

This board in my opinion just represents society as a whole. The world is full of people we would call a-hole or friend. We are all diverse and every culture of human beings will all ways have its clicks. I dont see John Wayne hanging out with Bill Gates or Pres. Bush being friends with Jesse jackson, even though they are both in politics. Boob and I will never be friends and if I met him in person I would not want to be responsible for my actions. That said, rumors and fact can always be mis-construed and will be as long as there are people on this planet. Call me nuts but as bad as things get I will always look for the best of the end product of mankind because of what happens during trying times. I have had the people on the left who hate on the people on the right both contibute to Sams bike and together we built the finished product. If this board didnt attract noobs like me the bike would never of happened. None of us would look upon a decent soul and not give help for that person if the need presented its self and for all the posturing and bad words typed this board has a special spirit that no other board out there has and it is because we are a family!!!! We may not like each other sometimes and some people may choose to join while others leave but believe me when I say there is no other team board such as this. We will go on fighting and getting along, we will go on argueing about quoting boob, we will go on sharing pictures of pets and loved ones and asking for prayers. Most of all, we will go on with the satisfaction that when the season starts and the Broncos win a game we all will feel better!!!!

[ZachKC]

Not responsible for your actions?

[Cito Pelon]

Dunno if I'd say it was "better" back in the early days of the Mane... but with only a few posters, the "feel" of the board was smaller and more intimate. With growth, we have a much more diverse community going here... but it's more difficult to get to know other posters when the forum is so busy. Heck, it's difficult to even read all the new posts. And if you go on vacation for a couple of weeks, you might as well forget it... it's gonna take a significant amount of time to get "back up to speed".

Some people prefer "smaller and more intimate", however... and for them growth makes the forum less enjoyable. Others view it as "the more the merrier" and for them the board is much better now... back then, they might have considered it "boring".

Well, I have to say the Mane was a tad boring and irritating a couple years ago. The newer posters added a lot to what was getting to be an inbred cluster-f. There was so many times a thread would become a circular argument between two posters.

Naturally, my own refusal to put posters on ignore was stupid. Once I realized my own stupidity and put a handfull of posters on ignore, I've enjoyed the Mane much more.

[Cito Pelon]

Hell no. Count me in the "more the merrier" category. I love diversity of personality, and accept that with growth comes growing pains. That said, I dislike grown men who act like little kids. Lately, we've had a rash of that.

Well, The Mane is a tour de force, that's for sure.

[baja]

God I hated rep....I never (or rarely) gave it out nor did I ever really read it and I was still in the "Top 15" of the most rep list.....much to my chagrin, I'd been happy with zero rep honestly.

The system seemed so phoney and pandering to me....it just felt dirty and insincere most times, so I avoided it and I still do.

I don't need acceptance or approval for what I post...I figure people either get it or they don't and if not, then that's their problem, not mine.

So Mr. Cool how did you happen to know you were constantly in the top fifteen?

[Pezman]

So Mr. Cool how did you happen to know you were constantly in the top fifteen?

:spit: I knew it! Hogan is a repwhore just like the rest of us!!!

[Pezman]

Seriously though, Slappy is one of my favorites... this site is better with him than without hands down.

Get your ass back here Slappy, and bring Tred and Clocky back too ya bastage ;D

[CBF1]

I heard a rumor that Slappy/Tred and CO are starting their own message boardROFL!

[Hogan11]

So Mr. Cool how did you happen to know you were constantly in the top fifteen?

I was alerted to it every now and then......people thought it was pretty ironic I guess.

[Hogan11]

:spit: I knew it! Hogan is a repwhore just like the rest of us!!!

Hardly....I never begged for anyone's approval for anything.

[Hogan11]

Not responsible for your actions?

Responsibility sucks.

Ha!

[ZachKC]

Responsibility sucks.

Ha!

I guess so.

[Odysseus]

Seriously though, Slappy is one of my favorites... this site is better with him than without hands down.

Get your ass back here Slappy, and bring Tred and Clocky back too ya bastage ;D

You mean -SLAP- is a revolutionary leader in charge of an Orangemane jihad? -SLAP- is a terrorist? I am offended he didn't invite me to join! Maybe he kidnapped Mock! He is probably responsible for the slow servers too.

I can't believe Tred is gone.

[BroncoBuff]

Seriously though, Slappy is one of my favorites... this site is better with him than without hands down.

Get your ass back here Slappy, and bring Tred and Clocky back too ya bastage ;D

That's the ticket ... !




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McCOY: "Dammit Jim, it's a football message
. . . . . . . board, not a soap opera!"
SPOCK: "Doctor McCoy is correct Captain."

[anthonypacino]

It's amazing how our little digital community here reflects the "real" world so much. We all come here out of a mutual love of Football, the Broncos to be exact. Most everyone gets along eventhough outspoken at times...when we talk about the Broncos. When we don't get to, and we talk about other things we start to learn things about each other, some we like others we dislike. So we have "splinter groups" break off and do their own thing both sides believing that their view is absolute and final. Does that remind anyone of anything?? History...religion...paint it with a cross, red, white and blue or orange and navy blue...but people are people.

I'm not singling anyone out at all in matter of fact I have never had a problem with anyone on this board, I don't have anyone on ignore...everyone's opinion is worthwile wether I agree with it or not. I can say that there are only two posters I have encounterd that try to bait me and that I don't have much respect for. Neither one is Slap or Garcia.

That being said I think everyone, not just the posters here need to lighten up a bit, are things being said that bad or hurtful by someone you have never met, hundreds of miles away typing on a keyboard really that horrible that you feel the need to "leave" and never come back? I know lots of people use the internet to socialize because they have a hard time doing so in the real world or never learned how but come on...Everyone needs thicker skin.

[atomicbloke]

It's amazing how our little digital community here reflects the "real" world so much. We all come here out of a mutual love of Football, the Broncos to be exact. Most everyone gets along eventhough outspoken at times...when we talk about the Broncos. When we don't get to, and we talk about other things we start to learn things about each other, some we like others we dislike. So we have "splinter groups" break off and do their own thing both sides believing that their view is absolute and final. Does that remind anyone of anything?? History...religion...paint it with a cross, red, white and blue or orange and navy blue...but people are people.

I'm not singling anyone out at all in matter of fact I have never had a problem with anyone on this board, I don't have anyone on ignore...everyone's opinion is worthwile wether I agree with it or not. I can say that there are only two posters I have encounterd that try to bait me and that I don't have much respect for. Neither one is Slap or Garcia.

That being said I think everyone, not just the posters here need to lighten up a bit, are things being said that bad or hurtful by someone you have never met, hundreds of miles away typing on a keyboard really that horrible that you feel the need to "leave" and never come back? I know lots of people use the internet to socialize because they have a hard time doing so in the real world or never learned how but come on...Everyone needs thicker skin.

What a great post!

Afterall, the only thing that ALL of us on this board have in common is that we are fans of the Denver Broncos. Hence, during the season, the harmony on the board is the highest.

But offseason is a different game. Now we don't have Broncos football to keep us together. So we split into groups, the democrats and the republicans, the liberals and the neo cons, the anti and pro bush groups, and every other possible types of groups.

Which means, start the season already!! we are ready for some Broncos FOOTBALL!!

[elsid13]

The question were will -Slap- go? I don't see him posting regularaly on some of the other broncos boards, just because of the "personality" those boards have developed.

[Odysseus]

I think they should expand the off season. Give us fans a little time to get to know each other better. What? Is it something that I said?

[ak1971]

It's amazing how our little digital community here reflects the "real" world so much. We all come here out of a mutual love of Football, the Broncos to be exact. Most everyone gets along eventhough outspoken at times...when we talk about the Broncos. When we don't get to, and we talk about other things we start to learn things about each other, some we like others we dislike. So we have "splinter groups" break off and do their own thing both sides believing that their view is absolute and final. Does that remind anyone of anything?? History...religion...paint it with a cross, red, white and blue or orange and navy blue...but people are people.

I'm not singling anyone out at all in matter of fact I have never had a problem with anyone on this board, I don't have anyone on ignore...everyone's opinion is worthwile wether I agree with it or not. I can say that there are only two posters I have encounterd that try to bait me and that I don't have much respect for. Neither one is Slap or Garcia.

That being said I think everyone, not just the posters here need to lighten up a bit, are things being said that bad or hurtful by someone you have never met, hundreds of miles away typing on a keyboard really that horrible that you feel the need to "leave" and never come back? I know lots of people use the internet to socialize because they have a hard time doing so in the real world or never learned how but come on...Everyone needs thicker skin.


screw you. Im going to kick your ass, next time I see you. :welcome:

[Odysseus]

screw you. Im going to kick your ass, next time I see you. :welcome:

Anthony P must have taken you down at the poker table. Nothing like having a pimp pissed at you! Hilarious!

[elsid13]

screw you. Im going to burn your house down, next time I see you. :welcome:

Fixed it for you ;D

[Kaylore]

Fixed it for you ;D

LOL

[ak1971]

LOL

then Im going to kick you in the junk. whens the Monday night game? !Booya!

[elsid13]

then Im going to kick you in the junk. whens the Monday night game? !Booya!

Bet you cann't.

[ak1971]

Bet you cann't.

Why did Kaylore finally have that surgery down in Trinidad he wanted?

[elsid13]

Why did Kaylore finally have that surgery down in Trinidad he wanted?

Why??? have you lined up some work for the new and improved Kaylore?

Freaking pimp always keeps his ho's down (;D)

[CBF1]

Can we close the open letter yet?

[elsid13]

Can we close the open letter yet?

Why???

[ak1971]

Why??? have you lined up some work for the new and improved Kaylore?

Freaking pimp always keeps his ho's down (;D)

figure we can run him/her out to KC....:~ohyah!:

[elsid13]

figure we can run him/her out to KC....:~ohyah!:

Who knew that Kaylore was only worth some government cheese and six pack of Natty Lite.

[GonzoLays]

Seriously though, Slappy is one of my favorites... this site is better with him than without hands down.

Get your ass back here Slappy, and bring Tred and Clocky back too ya bastage ;D

I don't get any of this ****. Tredici and Clockwork Orange both left the Orangemane because -Slap- got a 7 day suspension. What the ****!?!!

Look, I could see if -Slap- was like Patswin2000 -- a poster who never curses or rubs somebody the wrong way -- and got suspended. You know, then I would being cry bloody murder as well. But Slap? The same poster that openly wishes cancer and degrades poster's mothers in the most vile manner on a daily basis if he doesn't agree with you...that Slap? Clockwork and Tredici left because of that Slap? Now thats just stoooopid. Moronic. Idiotic.

Talk about being idiots with no cause. It was seven days, cupcakes! A seven day suspension! Your dumb asses left because the most vile poster finally got a tiny seven day suspension. That's just moronic.

All three of them should have a cup-of-wake-the-****-up, sprouts some nads (including Tred), and...and...**** it. Who cares. This is off the hook.

[clean]

I don't get any of this ****. Tredici and Clockwork Orange both left the Orangemane because -Slap- got a 7 day suspension. What the ****!?!!

Look, I could see if -Slap- was like Patswin2000 -- a poster who never curses or rubs somebody the wrong way -- and got suspended. You know, then I would being cry bloody murder as well. But Slap? The same poster that openly wishes cancer and degrades poster's mothers in the most vile manner on a daily basis if he doesn't agree with you...that Slap? Clockwork and Tredici left because of that Slap? Now thats just stoooopid. Moronic. Idiotic.

Talk about being idiots with no cause. It was seven days, cupcakes! A seven day suspension! Your dumb asses left because the most vile poster finally got a tiny seven day suspension. That's just moronic.

All three of them should have a cup-of-wake-the-****-up, sprouts some nads (including Tred), and...and...**** it. Who cares. This is off the hook.


I wouldnt say its acceptable but like you said Gonzo goes out of his way to instigate a lot of the reactions he gets. Not just from Slap but many people on this board. In my opinion if you get rid of guys like Gonzo who are really less valuable to this board as opposed to guys like Slap than i think you've cut out at least half of the issues that tend to arise like that.

Thats why i find it funny that people were so eager to jump on TJ for allowing Slap to post that in response to Gonzo. TJ recognized what Gonzo was doing and simple told him to shut up and quit crying when he knew he was the one pushing the buttons.

Obviously i dont know Slap personally so if he doesnt come back it is what it is. I would say there are at least 3-5 people you could get rid of on this board that would solve a lot of the " Drama " issues that we have here..

Another good post from Anubis.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Hell no. Count me in the "more the merrier" category. I love diversity of personality, and accept that with growth comes growing pains. That said, I dislike grown men who act like little kids. Lately, we've had a rash of that.Yeah, including your mod(s).

[theAPAOps5]

Pot meet kettle :twokisses

[ak1971]

F U C K.....Labaf, gafney, meck, taco, sassy, slug......**** **** alll ya all

[Kaylore]

* * * *.....Labaf, gafney, meck, taco, sassy, slug......**** **** alll ya all

/hugs AK

How's that marathon training going, ya fat pimp?Ha!

[Sassy]

* * * *.....Labaf, gafney, meck, taco, sassy, slug......**** **** alll ya all

???

[Sassy]

* * * *.....Labaf, gafney, meck, taco, sassy, slug......**** **** alll ya all

??? What did we do?

[Blueflame]

I was wondering that, too, Sass...Yikes!

[BroncoBuff]

Yeah, I don't know what Blue and Sassy ever did wrong ... ???

I guess I have to agree with the Anubis and Gonzo posts. Slap is acting like a petulant child ... he wasn't charged with a crime or anything fer heaven's sake, he was just given a week off by a Mod left in charge ... a Mod who's subsequently been relieved of Mod duties! Kinda hard to see what's left for him to protest/boycott. And I have no idea what Tred and Clockwork are protesting.

I respect/respected Slap. I expected more from him. In fact, from all three ... all three are/were Top 10 posters here in my book. Now they walk out on their friends - right before the season starts - without a word?


And Gonzo ... I take him and his antics less seriously. Not because I think less of him, but because he's a friendly, easy-going guy most of the time, so it's easier to overlook the 'bad stuff.' On the other hand, some of Slap's 'bad stuff' has been pretty wrenching.

[anthonypacino]

Yeah, I don't know what Blue and Sassy ever did wrong ... ???
You just need to learn the ways of the orange pimp...every time you read something he writes the voice in your head needs to be dripping with sarcasm.

[ZachKC]

And I have no idea what Tred and Clockwork are protesting..

She is probably frustrated she doesn't have her buddy around that would run in and come to her aid no matter how silly or obtuse an argument of hers was.

:rofl:

[BroncoBuff]

Silly and Obtuse are two words I would NEVER use to describe Tredici, pal.


Remember, you're just a chef around here. You're the good one, sure, but you're still a chef.

[ZachKC]

Silly and Obtuse are two words I would NEVER use to describe Tredici, pal.


Remember, you're just a chef around here. You're the good one, sure, but you're still a chef.

Yes, yes...we know OM idols can do know wrong. Tred is a good person. I don't wish bad things on her. But there were times she would go so far out of her way to make ridiculous arguments just to be able to argue with some she didn't care for. Didn't matter what was being talked about...she was on the other side. Good stuff.

Oh well...maybe they are off and happy together somewhere. :welcome:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

She is probably frustrated she doesn't have her buddy around that would run in and come to her aid no matter how silly or obtuse an argument of hers was.
:rofl:Nominated for stupidest post of the year.

[Hotrod]

God I hated rep....I never (or rarely) gave it out nor did I ever really read it and I was still in the "Top 15" of the most rep list.....much to my chagrin, I'd been happy with zero rep honestly.

The system seemed so phoney and pandering to me....it just felt dirty and insincere most times, so I avoided it and I still do.

I don't need acceptance or approval for what I post...I figure people either get it or they don't and if not, then that's their problem, not mine.

That sir earns you a double REP

[Florida_Bronco]

She is probably frustrated she doesn't have her buddy around that would run in and come to her aid no matter how silly or obtuse an argument of hers was.

:rofl:

Does that mean Bob would leave if we banned you? ???

[ZachKC]

Does that mean Bob would leave if we banned you? ???

Why would you want him gone? You would have literally nothing to talk about here.

[ZachKC]

I guess I always just found the connection between Slap and Tred a curious one...

[Odysseus]

Why would you want him gone? You would have literally nothing to talk about here.

I guess we could always sit around and wait until you have questions that help your business get started. The Orangemane free consulting services are the best in the Usernet! ;)

[epicSocialism4tw]

While I don't agree with some things that Slap posted, I have been around him on these BB's long enough to know that he doesn't just do things unprovoked. Case in point and Llama even took me to the thread where he admitted telling slap to dig up his dead dog and go **** it.

Unprovoked? It is 100% the fault of both Slap and the moderators of the site that that thread got out of control. It started out of control. And I never mentioned anything about digging up dogs or beastiality. You must not have read the original thread. I suggest that you read it before leveling a half-aware opinion like that in a public place.

Slap never apologized to me once for any of the multitude of vile, offensive things that he has said to me here, many of them completely unprovoked by anything but disagreement of opinion. And many of them delivered to me long before the aforementioned tizzy that we got into.

People who didn't even know Jim understood his feelings for his four legged friend. He loved that dog like somebody would love a wife, or a family member.

He may not have ever left one of his trademark sick homoerotic or incestual messages in your rep, but he did to many other people over nothing but harmless opinion that he didnt agree with. "Jim" gets off on messing with people on this site, and the moderators have let him continue to do it because they either like he and Tredici personally, or because they see him as some sort of utility.

Slap is cynical and can be crude and very much too the point. He has an opinion like anybody else on this board.

He can control his affinity for leaving twisted, sick comments about people's families just as well as anyone else too. Nothing done to Slap was unprovoked. Dont put him in the role of an innocent victim. It doesnt fit the bill.

I think a few members on this board like to act "mightier than thou" and throw their big sticks around towards anybody who doesn't agree with their opinion or thoughts.

Slap prides himself in that role. If Slap doesnt like someone for whatever reason, he'll assault them with psychological defecation through the rep system and on threads.

If Slap got suspended off of here, why don't we take a look at the people who might have instigated it?

Slap has instigated most of it. He should have been put under the thumb a long time ago. The moderation of this site tends to be more clique oriented than justice oriented. If everyone was viewed as equivalent here (even among the long-timers), Slap would have been banned and moved on long ago. Nowhere else can you get away with that kind of offensive speech on a site that claims to be work and family friendly...PG13 persay.

Garcia was the only mod with the cajones to do it, and he came out looking like a champ. Bravo, Garcia.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yeah, Gonzo's deserved a lot of the crap that's been thrown his way. Regardless, is that type of retaliation acceptable. Can I tell someone to crawl under a rock and die, or I hope they die, or I hope their mother dies if they're being idiots? If Slap decides not to post here again, it would be a loss because he really had some good takes but I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it if he doesn't

Just dont give him a taste of his own medicine.

[Blueflame]

Looks to me like this thread has pretty much run its course.