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27atwater
07-03-2007, 12:11 AM
Transformers was SICK. If you have any interest at all, I recommend seeing it tomorrow. They showed it tonight in Younsgstown, Ohio and my buddy who manages the theater got us in. It far exceeded all expectations. It was hilarious, the effects were badass, Megan Fox is smoking and the Transformers themselves were a sight to behold. It's been a very long time since I enjoyed a movie this much...and for what it's worth, I was more of a GI Joe/Star Wars guy growing up. I wasn't one of those guys who wet himself upon hearing the movie was being made. I just have to give credit where it is due. One badass flick!

Los Broncos
07-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Thanks for the insight, ill check it out.

long beach bronco
07-03-2007, 12:30 AM
I saw it already and it's the movie of the summer hands down, everything else pales in comparison. My wife and kids are making me take them again tomorrow, it was that good.

skunk
07-03-2007, 12:32 AM
wow


warning:
DO NOT BREED


:afro:

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-03-2007, 12:32 AM
Just saw it.

It was pretty much the balls.

ZONA
07-03-2007, 12:43 AM
Can't wait to see it - but I will wait until I see Bourne also before I say which is best movie of the summer. I saw F4 - Silver Surfer last week and although I love how they did the sufer, the movie overall lacked I thought. X-men have totally blown away most of the commic movies so far IMHO.

Ratboy
07-03-2007, 12:43 AM
I watched it too. It was a kickass movie.

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 01:10 AM
I just got back as well.

This is a decent movie. The story is okay. The action is unbelievably good, although the editing makes it difficult to follow. It won't translate to video well, But I would still recommend it on thee big screen. The main character is frickin histerical.

CoBear23
07-03-2007, 01:14 AM
From beginning to end Transformers has to be the most entertaining movie I've ever seen. The action sequences and animations are jaw-dropping, the same can be said for Megan Fox the movie's resident....well... "fox"

See for yourself

Transformers.http://orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=19657&stc=1&d=1183439736

If you got one movie this summer it has to be Transformers

Los Broncos
07-03-2007, 01:15 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=57945

bpc
07-03-2007, 01:23 AM
All I needed to hear was that they recruited the original voice of Optimus Prime from the cartoons for the movie...

I'm there!

CBF1
07-03-2007, 01:54 AM
All I needed to hear was that they recruited the original voice of Optimus Prime from the cartoons for the movie...

I'm there!

Adopt a bronco slut.... you stole my bronco. Put 'em up!

CBF1
07-03-2007, 01:56 AM
i'd hit it. WOW a total fox!

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 02:59 AM
she engaged to Brian Austin Green aka David Silver from Beverly Hills 90210

ohiobronco2
07-03-2007, 07:15 AM
she engaged to Brian Austin Green aka David Silver from Beverly Hills 90210

Lucky bast***. Isn't he roughly 15 years older?

brncs_fan
07-03-2007, 08:26 AM
she engaged to Brian Austin Green aka David Silver from Beverly Hills 90210

Wasn't he also bagging Tiffany Amber Thiesen for a while to (aka Kelly from Saved by the Bell)?

Lucky Bastage.

drail 24 48
07-03-2007, 09:24 AM
I LOVEDD this movie. SOOO GOODD!! :) Def up to my expectations

55CrushEm
07-03-2007, 09:27 AM
Lucky bast***. Isn't he roughly 15 years older?

Yeah.....I think he's 34, she's only 20.....maybe 21.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 09:49 AM
W/o giving too much away, when dude got pissed on I was frickin rolling!

I've been watching the main character for a while now. he had a show on Disney Channel when we was @ 12 or 13. You could see then that the kid had a knack for comedy. Excellent delivery and poise. he's gonna be a star after this one. He's done some other good work too. Greatest game Ever Played (golf movie) was solid and he has others.

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 09:51 AM
yah she just turned 21 and he's 34, yup he dated tiffany amber when they were on 90210 together, she yah he got to bang her, he also got to bang vanessa marcell from las vegas, i think they have a kid together, she was also on 90210 and played nick cage's gf in the rock, man this guy gets to bang all the hot chicks, wonder what his secret is

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 09:52 AM
yah he was in the hole too and disturbia, now he's going to be in indiana jones 4, he's a rising star

27atwater
07-03-2007, 09:54 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/hottie2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/hottie.jpg

27atwater
07-03-2007, 09:54 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/500508502_95fafdf042_m.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/tn2_megan_fox_3.jpg

27atwater
07-03-2007, 09:55 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/tn2_megan_fox_2.jpg

27atwater
07-03-2007, 09:56 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/27atwater/megan_fox_fhm_2006_calendar.jpg

This chick is now in my top 5 or 6.

Hayek, Alba, Cuthbert, Beil, Jolie, Mendez and Fox. Put em in whatever order ya want, just leave Salma 1st.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:01 AM
I haven't seen Disturbia yet. Worth watching?

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 10:02 AM
He was also in I Robot

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:02 AM
yah its a alright thriller, i only watched it for the girl

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:02 AM
i just saw those pictures earlier

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:03 AM
never hurts to see em again.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:04 AM
did it work?

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:12 AM
here are some pics of her and her soon to be hubby

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4923/BrianAusti_Grant_9048094_400.jpg

http://www.meganfoxy.com/gallery/misc/images/megan_fox.jpg


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/dragondawg/megan_fox_fhm.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/dragondawg/megan_fox_fhm_3m.jpg


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/dragondawg/megan_fox_fhm_images_2_small.jpg

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:15 AM
there's also a pic of her lying in bed with just the blankets on, ha so she said linday lohan would only be nice to her so she would buy her some cigarettes

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:16 AM
saw that one too...aye curumba!

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:18 AM
haha she says she has her boyfriend's name tattooed next to her "pie". you can see it in the pic

KipCorrington25
07-03-2007, 10:19 AM
Not into tattoos, pretty skanky.

Also, am I the only person in the world that thinks these action, CGI, type movies are lame as hell?

55CrushEm
07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
yah she just turned 21 and he's 34, yup he dated tiffany amber when they were on 90210 together, she yah he got to bang her, he also got to bang vanessa marcell from las vegas, i think they have a kid together, she was also on 90210 and played nick cage's gf in the rock, man this guy gets to bang all the hot chicks, wonder what his secret is

It certainly can't be his voice.....

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
i guess she has hung out at a lot of strip clubs, well i guess she likes bad boys

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:22 AM
Not into tattoos, pretty skanky.

Also, am I the only person in the world that thinks these action, CGI, type movies are lame as hell?

possibly...

Los Broncos
07-03-2007, 10:46 AM
she engaged to Brian Austin Green aka David Silver from Beverly Hills 90210

Mistake number one.

Drek
07-03-2007, 10:55 AM
No thanks. I'm opposed to movies in which Michael Bay craps on my childhood.

FYI there was already a Transformers movie, it was animated and it was amazing. This is just another of Bay's action/dramas with ill conceived bits of comedy and one liners sprinked in.

I hate Michael Bay more than FASA Interactive. Thats going somewhere.

Dukes
07-03-2007, 10:57 AM
I don't care much for Michael Bay either, but this movie rocks. I'd say it's up there with T2 action-wise. Easily the best action movie of the year.

Ratboy
07-03-2007, 11:10 AM
I haven't seen Disturbia yet. Worth watching?

The movie was awesome. Seems like most of the movies Shia does is pretty decent.

Bronco_Beerslug
07-03-2007, 11:18 AM
So this is what is a good movie today, another cartoon movie?

Crushaholic
07-03-2007, 12:36 PM
I plan on seeing it this weekend...

Hercules Rockefeller
07-03-2007, 01:10 PM
Already got my tickets for tonight, I've been waiting to see this for over a year

Arkansas Bronco
07-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Im going tomorrow when I am off.

Requiem
07-03-2007, 01:26 PM
My friends and I have been waiting for years. We're boozing it up, going to watch the 80's movie, then go to this, then go to the lake and do more!!!!!

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 01:48 PM
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Crushaholic
07-03-2007, 01:52 PM
Also, am I the only person in the world that thinks these action, CGI, type movies are lame as hell?

If the CGI is done well, then it can make for a good movie. From what I saw in the trailers, the Transformers effects look good. However, I'll know more when I see it this weekend...

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 02:03 PM
My heart skipped a beat every time she was on screen.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1330/magenfoxdd5.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfoxdd5.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/978/magenfox1ge9.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox1ge9.jpg)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8804/magenfox2za0.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox2za0.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1779/magenfox3po2.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox3po2.jpg)
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http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4420/magenfox9gz1.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox9gz1.jpg)

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 02:08 PM
More megan Fox.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7983/magenfox10pw2.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox10pw2.jpg)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/315/magenfox11vt2.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox11vt2.jpg)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1289/magenfox12fy3.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox12fy3.jpg)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3062/magenfox14rg6.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox14rg6.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8994/magenfox15hy0.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magenfox15hy0.jpg)

ant1999e
07-03-2007, 02:33 PM
So this is what is a good movie today, another cartoon movie?

And you will never believe this, are you sitting down? This movie even has sound. I know you will find this hard to believe, but I'm not joking.

The world is passing you by slug.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-03-2007, 03:03 PM
My friends and I have been waiting for years. We're boozing it up, going to watch the 80's movie, then go to this, then go to the lake and do more!!!!!

Hope some girls are in your group

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 03:08 PM
Honestly...the 10 people I went to see it with last night all said the 87 cartton movie was better than this. I though a bit more of it, but the hated it.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 03:10 PM
No thanks. I'm opposed to movies in which Michael Bay craps on my childhood.

FYI there was already a Transformers movie, it was animated and it was amazing. This is just another of Bay's action/dramas with ill conceived bits of comedy and one liners sprinked in.

I hate Michael Bay more than FASA Interactive. Thats going somewhere.

At least you gave it a chance...

27atwater
07-03-2007, 03:12 PM
Honestly...the 10 people I went to see it with last night all said the 87 cartton movie was better than this. I though a bit more of it, but the hated it.

Interesting...it ended to thunderous applause at the theater I was at.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 03:18 PM
I came thrice during the movie. I won't say how many were for har and how many were for the robots.

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Interesting...it ended to thunderous applause at the theater I was at.

There was in mine as well. But that's how they felt.

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Interesting...it ended to thunderous applause at the theater I was at.

I also have a bet that Harry Potter will do better...:)

27atwater
07-03-2007, 03:48 PM
which flick do you have?

Transformers will be better, but Potter may DO better. Transformers will have a very specific crowd. I think Potter will have a wider ranging audience. JMHO

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 04:18 PM
I came thrice during the movie. I won't say how many were for har and how many were for the robots.

I had my own private moment too. :)

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 04:23 PM
Some more of her. This site has no nudity. So its safe for kids. Well Safe foor pg13 crowd.

http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1355080/an/0/page/0
http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/1345101/page/0
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http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1299250/Main/1271661
http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/1049822/page/

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Here's one thing I don't get. Why does she seem to like the dopiest looking guys. She engaged to Brian Austin Green and used to date this guy http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/1345940/page/0

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 04:45 PM
The grand daddy of them all.

http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1305413/an/0/page/1

SleepingTiger
07-03-2007, 07:03 PM
Movie so so.... hell no, it was great! Great special effects, movie of the summer!

ant1999e
07-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Did anyone have the previews of the movie with the setting at a party and chaos breaks out and the earth is under attack by something that knocks the head off the statue of liberty? What was the name of that movie?

ant1999e
07-03-2007, 09:32 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/02/thousands-flock-to-web-to-solve-jj-abrams-transformers-trailer-mystery/


"Drumroll…. And the answer is: The 8:00pm opening night screenings of Transformers just let out. That’s what happened. Thousands of east coast movie-goers ran home to find out the answer to a question that probably bothered them throughout the entire film:

What the heck was up with that movie trailer?

Regular /Film readers will instantly know what I’m referring to. The trailer attached to Transformers is for a top secret JJ Abrams produced monster movie."

My son noticed the move didn't have a name and didn't show the "monster". His theory is it is Transformers 2. I was impressed he caught this. I'm not quick enough to notice things like this so he didn't get it from my side of the family and no way did he get his smarts from my inlaws. Must have been a damn smart mailman.;)

dragondawg
07-03-2007, 09:46 PM
yah i forgot to post that, she dated david gallager from 7th heaven, i'm guessing she doesn't date nice guys

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 09:53 PM
which flick do you have?

Transformers will be better, but Potter may DO better. Transformers will have a very specific crowd. I think Potter will have a wider ranging audience. JMHO

I give them odds..first 5 days of transformer vs first weekend of Potter. The bet is lunch.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:13 PM
Did anyone have the previews of the movie with the setting at a party and chaos breaks out and the earth is under attack by something that knocks the head off the statue of liberty? What was the name of that movie?

excellent advertising...leaves the crowd wanting more. My whole group was like "what the f was that?" and what's the name of it?" I just sat there admiring the buzz that was created over a 20 second reel. Well played.

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 10:20 PM
excellent advertising...leaves the crowd wanting more. My whole group was like "what the f was that?" and what's the name of it?" I just sat there admiring the buzz that was created over a 20 second reel. Well played.

Samething happened at mine

freak6
07-03-2007, 10:21 PM
Anyway, that movie was badass.

<b>Was that StarScream or Megatron that said "No, I want you!!!" to Jazz ?</b>

StarScream was always my fav character.

I think that movie that was previewed is called Cloverfield. Secret stuff.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:29 PM
Bare with me here as I was growing out of Transformers when it reached the original movie stage. Is there a Decepticon ABOVE megatron? I mean, typically in a sequel the new bad guy has to be worse than in the first movie...or at least different. I'm sure megatron will play his part in a sequel, but who else could be the lead badass?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 10:32 PM
yah i forgot to post that, she dated david gallager from 7th heaven, i'm guessing she doesn't date nice guys

Well I don't think there is a girl on gods green earth that that likes a good guy.

ant1999e
07-03-2007, 10:37 PM
Bare with me here as I was growing out of Transformers when it reached the original movie stage. Is there a Decepticon ABOVE megatron? I mean, typically in a sequel the new bad guy has to be worse than in the first movie...or at least different. I'm sure megatron will play his part in a sequel, but who else could be the lead badass?

I think he will be brought back to life. His body was pretty much left in tact. I'm sure they will have some kind of spin on it.

freak6
07-03-2007, 10:38 PM
Very good movie for a summer blockbuster.

Great action.

Lame lines. Stupid plot, robots that gets killed by humans yeah right, but still it was awesome.

Starscream is dope.

freak6
07-03-2007, 10:40 PM
Did StarScream or Megatron do Jazz?

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:42 PM
I'm prettyy sure it was Starscream, but not 100% sure. They looked to similar which was the only knock I have on teh movie.

27atwater
07-03-2007, 10:47 PM
I thought it was VERY funny...until it began to get serious. I agree that's the point where the jokes were A) bad and B) unnecessary. Once the sector 7 agent showed up, it became horribly unfunny...well except for when he got pissed on. Anthony Anderson's character wasn't as funny as they wanted him to be either.

I hafta say though, the line about going to the party to "climb this tree" had me rolling. That was good $hit.

freak6
07-03-2007, 10:49 PM
I'm prettyy sure it was Starscream, but not 100% sure. They looked to similar which was the only knock I have on teh movie.

I am pretty sure it was him too. Ruthless. I hope in 2 he comes back and kills that moron with red socks first.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-03-2007, 11:00 PM
Did StarScream or Megatron do Jazz?

NO SPOILERS!!!

Spoiler Alert: Highlight here(Megatron killed Jazz)

27atwater
07-03-2007, 11:03 PM
I agree. I was trying to keep my descriptions vague.

Garcia Bronco
07-03-2007, 11:09 PM
I thought it was VERY funny...until it began to get serious. I agree that's the point where the jokes were A) bad and B) unnecessary. Once the sector 7 agent showed up, it became horribly unfunny...well except for when he got pissed on. Anthony Anderson's character wasn't as funny as they wanted him to be either.

I hafta say though, the line about going to the party to "climb this tree" had me rolling. That was good $hit.

I though he was histerical the whole time.

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 12:54 AM
i just finished watching the first half of it online, seems pretty good, anthony anderson was pretty funny, megan fox was smoking hot, they kept showing her on screen by herself

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 12:56 AM
Well I don't think there is a girl on gods green earth that that likes a good guy.

yup, girls just like assholes and jerks cause they either have low self esteem, or they think they can change them, or they like the chase, anyone here listen to tom leykis?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-04-2007, 01:22 AM
yup, girls just like a-holes and jerks cause they either have low self esteem, or they think they can change them, or they like the chase, anyone here listen to tom leykis?

Well I wouldn't say that either. Its just that most "Nice Guys" are such wussies. I think that guy in general misinterprate "I Want a Nice Guy" as a guy that fall to a girls every whem. Think about it a little, would you like a girl that just fell apart to everything you wanted. Or would like a girl with a life how fun would that be. Isn't it more fun in a relationship to be with someone that has a life and you can be there for the ride if you want and get off at anytime and not feel like the train stops because you get off.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-04-2007, 01:26 AM
It was awesome.

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 02:21 AM
yah girls don't like wuss or pushovers, they like a guy to put his foot down and take control, anyways gonna go finsiht he second half of the movie

Rock Chalk
07-04-2007, 02:48 AM
Interesting...it ended to thunderous applause at the theater I was at.

I just got back and the theater erupted.

Im with people, I cant stand Michael Bay, but this had so many hints of Spielberg's influence in teh acting and the characters, with all Michael Bay action (which for your money, is the best action director in Hollywood).

I saw the 87 Cartoon movie, it was great, but it was a cartoon. Live action always trumps cartoon and Shia Lebouf was freakin awesome in this movie. Seriously, I dont rave about actors too much but this kid has all the tools to do any kind of role he wants and not just comedy.

Just my two cents.

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 02:57 AM
i liked how the machines cared about the humans

Orange4Life
07-04-2007, 03:10 AM
I just got back and the movie kicked ass. Its the most entertaining movie I've seen in years. If it wasn't the last show of the night I would of watched it again on the spot. Optimus Prime was the exact same character as in the cartoon. It was like I was 10 years old again.

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 03:27 AM
hugo weaving aka mr. smith from the matrix did the voice of megatron

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 04:10 AM
well just finished watching it on my comp, great movie, better than i ever expected, thank god for megan fox, i just read that she loves to have sex, god i hope she didn't do the 7th heaven guy

fuzzy
07-04-2007, 01:42 PM
Bare with me here as I was growing out of Transformers when it reached the original movie stage. Is there a Decepticon ABOVE megatron? I mean, typically in a sequel the new bad guy has to be worse than in the first movie...or at least different. I'm sure megatron will play his part in a sequel, but who else could be the lead badass?

Soundwave would be the first that comes to mind. I'm not a surpeme transformers guru, but I think he was actually more powerful than megatron.

Soundwave+the Dinobots would definately be awsome to see in the sequel.

And, yeah, count me in the 'this movie kicked ass' crowd. Good stuff.

Garcia Bronco
07-04-2007, 02:41 PM
i liked how the machines cared about the humans

LOL

Garcia Bronco
07-04-2007, 02:45 PM
LMAO...

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27atwater
07-04-2007, 03:13 PM
THIS is impressive...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/punkjr/698895174/

Also, I would LOVE to see the Dinobots somehow worked in. I would literally cream myself...them and the Insecticons. Only thing better would be one of the 5 piece robots that form the bigger robot, jets, constructicons, lion/rhino, etc. sorry I forget some of their names.

DB Doom
07-04-2007, 05:50 PM
while folks are diggin' Shia and his skills, watch 'A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints', Its a really good movie with a great cast as well. true story as well.

Kaylore
07-04-2007, 06:04 PM
I was purposely avoiding this thread to avoid spoilers and now I can post since I just got back from it. It was very good (for a cheap thrill summer action blockbuster movie).

First, I did enjoy Meagan Fox until you all did research on her and she's pretty much another tattoo wearing crazy woman that is into abusive bad boys. She reminds me of Jolie, who I also find attractive, but also equally crazy. Moving on...

The movie was good. The editor needs some kind of iron man trophy for cramming so much information into five second montages.

Things I didn't enjoy:

I didn't like that they rushed to get a bunch of information to the audience and then spent ten minutes on him getting his glasses out of his house. That really killed the tempo. The plot was clumsy in it's development. I remember thinking they did a good job introducing some of the characters but it took a long time to get to the "why we should care" parts. The story with the Aussie programmer and her hacker friend seemed totally pointless especially since they weren't involved in the ending at all. They could have removed them and done more with the soldier in Iraq - or cut them all out and just stick with the kid and his hot girlfriend.

Things I liked:

The action and CGI were impressive. I liked the little things that they did when the transformers were fighting and whatnot. The fight scene with Optimus and Bonecrusher was really fun. Actually all the fights with the Transformers were fun. I liked that they didn't try to make it really serious and gave us all what we wanted to see. I also liked the relationship between Bumblebee and the kid. I think that helped connect the audience with the beings. When Optimus is first revealed I got emotional. I loved him as a kid. It was so cool to see him and Megatron going at it.

Overall it was a fun movie. I was confused with Megatron and Starscream, though I liked that they recreated that enmity those two had. As you'll recall, in the cartoons Starscream changes allegiances at one point. That little moment they had was a cool throw back. Anyway, fun film. I look forward to the next.

-And please say NO to Dinobots. Dinobots are what destroyed Transformers and that would just be too much cheese. It would also once again ruin this thing that they've finally restarted.

anthonypacino
07-04-2007, 07:31 PM
I saw this one on Monday night. I thought is was a decent flick. This was for sure a very hard one to transfer to film. I think if you only have a general knowledge or like of the Transformers you will love the film. If you are a die-hard you could be slightly dissappointed.
How hard would it have been to call the kid "Spike"? He had the same last name, or the All-Spark being called The Matrix. Sometimes it felt like it was one huge General Motors ad. I wished the robots looked more like their toon counterparts, sometimes when they were fighting it was hard to tell if it was robots or just flying mass of junk flying around.

Rock Chalk
07-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Someone with a good memory fill me in on something.

That Decepticon tank was named Devastator, but wasnt Devastator the big decepticon that formed with the 5 constructicon's joined together?

Oh 27atwater, Megatron was the highest ranking decepticon, also the most powerful of them. Starscream, and his two buddies (ramjet and the other one I forgot) never liked Megatron and always plotted against them.

Soundwave was the boombox in the cartoon but he was absent in the film. The radio in the film was Frenzy, which in the cartoon was one of the tapes that came out of Soundwave.

anthonypacino
07-04-2007, 08:32 PM
Someone with a good memory fill me in on something.

That Decepticon tank was named Devastator, but wasnt Devastator the big decepticon that formed with the 5 constructicon's joined together?

Oh 27atwater, Megatron was the highest ranking decepticon, also the most powerful of them. Starscream, and his two buddies (ramjet and the other one I forgot) never liked Megatron and always plotted against them.

Soundwave was the boombox in the cartoon but he was absent in the film. The radio in the film was Frenzy, which in the cartoon was one of the tapes that came out of Soundwave.

You are right Devastator was the Constructicon. I think the tank was a triple changer like Astro-Train. I can't remember his name. Thundercracker was Starscream's crew. he got changed into Cyclonus when Megatron was changed into Galvatron. (Hey I was smart and got my homework done at school, I had time to learn this stuff as a kid!)

freak6
07-04-2007, 08:50 PM
Shockwave.

Rock Chalk
07-04-2007, 08:54 PM
I bought the game and Devastator isnt in it, but Brawl is and Brawl isnt in the movie. Soundwave is in teh game too (he is a big ass Howitzer cannon and tough as hell).

The game somewhat follows the movie, but there are plenty of differences. Brawl kills Jazz, not Megatron after Jazz kicks Starscreams ass, then Blackouts ass, then Starscream AND Blackout at the same time. Starscream doesnt speak English. Scorponok is no fun to play with. Blackout is really fun to play with. Decepticons are much funner to play with than Autobots (you get rewarded for blowing stuff up).

Kaylore
07-04-2007, 08:57 PM
Decepticons are much funner to play with than Autobots (you get rewarded for blowing stuff up).
Well duh.

Rock Chalk
07-04-2007, 09:07 PM
Well duh.

Thing is though, I dont like playing the bad guys. :(

Admittedly though wheter I play the Autobot or decepticon characters, I always smash the cop cars.

dragondawg
07-04-2007, 10:01 PM
I was purposely avoiding this thread to avoid spoilers and now I can post since I just got back from it. It was very good (for a cheap thrill summer action blockbuster movie).

First, I did enjoy Meagan Fox until you all did research on her and she's pretty much another tattoo wearing crazy woman that is into abusive bad boys. She reminds me of Jolie, who I also find attractive, but also equally crazy. Moving on...

The movie was good. The editor needs some kind of iron man trophy for cramming so much information into five second montages.

Things I didn't enjoy:

I didn't like that they rushed to get a bunch of information to the audience and then spent ten minutes on him getting his glasses out of his house. That really killed the tempo. The plot was clumsy in it's development. I remember thinking they did a good job introducing some of the characters but it took a long time to get to the "why we should care" parts. The story with the Aussie programmer and her hacker friend seemed totally pointless especially since they weren't involved in the ending at all. They could have removed them and done more with the soldier in Iraq - or cut them all out and just stick with the kid and his hot girlfriend.

Things I liked:

The action and CGI were impressive. I liked the little things that they did when the transformers were fighting and whatnot. The fight scene with Optimus and Bonecrusher was really fun. Actually all the fights with the Transformers were fun. I liked that they didn't try to make it really serious and gave us all what we wanted to see. I also liked the relationship between Bumblebee and the kid. I think that helped connect the audience with the beings. When Optimus is first revealed I got emotional. I loved him as a kid. It was so cool to see him and Megatron going at it.

Overall it was a fun movie. I was confused with Megatron and Starscream, though I liked that they recreated that enmity those two had. As you'll recall, in the cartoons Starscream changes allegiances at one point. That little moment they had was a cool throw back. Anyway, fun film. I look forward to the next.

-And please say NO to Dinobots. Dinobots are what destroyed Transformers and that would just be too much cheese. It would also once again ruin this thing that they've finally restarted.


and and if she marrys that guy she's gonna be a step mom, i say that break up before they even get married, i think one of the reasons she is with him is cause she liked watching 90210, anyways they filmed at the observatory which i can see from my house.......


This looks like it was taken at the observatory but in the movie it looks like a different place

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/dragondawg/normal_Megan_Fox_Transformers_26-1.jpg

Kaylore
07-04-2007, 10:42 PM
Thing is though, I dont like playing the bad guys. :(

Admittedly though wheter I play the Autobot or decepticon characters, I always smash the cop cars.

I was always an "Autobot" too. I even had a card. I had the battlebase that turned into a robot and several of the cars including Optimus in three sizes. The Decepticons were fun because their vehicles were always cooler. They had planes, tanks, and cop cars. The Autobots had trucks and regular vehicles. It was a good to incentive to play with both.

freak6
07-04-2007, 10:55 PM
This is the only autobot I really liked. I had like 6 or 7 of transformers. Elway and sports took over about age 10.

Shockwave was cool too.

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2007, 12:23 AM
Shockwave.

Shock wave...like Megatron...was a gun.

I can't believe I remember some of this stuff

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2007, 12:23 AM
This is the only autobot I really liked. I had like 6 or 7 of transformers. Elway and sports took over about age 10.

Shockwave was cool too.

That was Jet Fire

anthonypacino
07-05-2007, 01:17 AM
That was Jet Fire

I had Jet-Fire, Hasbro got sued for making him they said it was a rip off of the Robotech fighters (it was, they transformed the exact same.) It is one of the rarest figures of the line. He only appeared in on episode of the toon.

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2007, 01:38 AM
I had Jet-Fire, Hasbro got sued for making him they said it was a rip off of the Robotech fighters (it was, they transformed the exact same.) It is one of the rarest figures of the line. He only appeared in on episode of the toon.

I had him...

I had

Megatron, SoundWave, Shockwave, Omega Supreme, Jet-Fire, WheelJack, Optimus Prime, Some of the Dinobots, The bugs, All the jets ....

No bumbell bee though

anthonypacino
07-05-2007, 01:43 AM
I had him...

I had

Megatron, SoundWave, Shockwave, Omega Supreme, Jet-Fire, WheelJack, Optimus Prime, Some of the Dinobots, The bugs, All the jets ....

No bumbell bee though

I had alot of the small ones, Beachcomber, Seaspray, the UFO, Powerglide, Goldenbug (it was the changed Bumblebee) 2nd version of Optimus, Red Alert, Rescuebots, Hot Rod, Kup, Rodimus Prime, Cyclonus, Sharkticon, some Insecticons and Constructicons and a few others, Jet Fire was my favorite. I had one of the combiners, I can't remember I don't think they were the Jets, I think it was the "smart" robots? If that makes sense. I also had the Autobot city that transformed...it was kinda lame though.

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2007, 01:47 AM
I had alot of the small ones, Beachcomber, Seaspray, the UFO, Powerglide, Goldenbug (it was the changed Bumblebee) 2nd version of Optimus, Red Alert, Rescuebots, Hot Rod, Kup, Rodimus Prime, Cyclonus, Sharkticon, some Insecticons and Constructicons and a few others, Jet Fire was my favorite. I had one of the combiners, I can't remember I don't think they were the Jets, I think it was the "smart" robots? If that makes sense. I also had the Autobot city that transformed...it was kinda lame though.

if I could have just one of them back...It would be WheelJack...he was the Scientist of the group.

I also had Ratchett.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-05-2007, 01:49 AM
You are right Devastator was the Constructicon. I think the tank was a triple changer like Astro-Train. I can't remember his name. Thundercracker was Starscream's crew. he got changed into Cyclonus when Megatron was changed into Galvatron. (Hey I was smart and got my homework done at school, I had time to learn this stuff as a kid!)

The other triple changer was Blitz-Wing.

The crew was StarScream, ThunderCraker and SkyWarp.

Devastator was formed by 6 construcicons Bonecrusher, Mixmaster, Long Haul, Scavenger, Scrapper, and Hook.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-05-2007, 01:59 AM
Spoiler Alert: Highlight from here ( Tranformers 2 will have the Dinobots and Devastator in per Tom DeSanto in the TV show Attack of the Show on G2 tv. )

SonOfLe-loLang
07-05-2007, 02:21 AM
Saw this movie today and it really could have been a whole lot better with a cleaner storyline that left out all those "for the kids" moments. For example, the robot peeing on the guy, the robots hiding from the parents, etc really created a juvenile flick when the kids would have liked it anyway. Great action, pretty fun...but could have been closer to an independence day type fun if it chose to be.

dragondawg
07-05-2007, 02:26 AM
how about the mom laughing happily when the girl was in the guy's room cause she thought her son was gonna get laid

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-05-2007, 02:32 AM
Saw this movie today and it really could have been a whole lot better with a cleaner storyline that left out all those "for the kids" moments. For example, the robot peeing on the guy, the robots hiding from the parents, etc really created a juvenile flick when the kids would have liked it anyway. Great action, pretty fun...but could have been closer to an independence day type fun if it chose to be.

NO Spoilers!!!

Crushaholic
07-05-2007, 02:47 AM
I was a teenager in the 80s, so I never really got into the Transformers when they were around the first time. It seemed like a stupid concept to me-automobiles that transformed into robots. However, I liked the movie on the big screen. I knew of Optimus Prime and Megatron, but I didn't really know any of the back story. Therefore, this casual Transformers fan gives it two thumbs up...:thumbsup:

jonny1
07-05-2007, 10:42 AM
I was underwhelmed . . .

didn't feel like I'd been ripped off, but wasn't wowed.

Arkansas Bronco
07-05-2007, 11:03 AM
I loved it. Sure Optimus's explanations and so forth were mainly for those the young or those that didnt follow the transformers. I will buy it when it gets released for sure.

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-05-2007, 11:36 AM
Could have done without the Mountain Dew and Xbox 360-bots in the final battle scene. Whores.

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Could have done without the Mountain Dew and Xbox 360-bots in the final battle scene. Whores.

LOL....yep

Bladerunner
07-05-2007, 01:49 PM
I watched it yesteday...i walked away really wishing I was 10 again, so I could have enjoyed it...

it had some humor and the effects were cool, at least for the first half dozen times you saw them...

there were so many lame parts though, I just couldn't believe the cheese level...

I'm sure it's just me...like I said, I wish I was 10 again, cause this movie would have kicked ass if I was

fuzzy
07-05-2007, 01:53 PM
WOOOO... Michael Bay is a huge Grimlock fan, the dinobots are definately going to be in the sexuel :)


http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/scoop_transformer_producer_wants_dinobots_in_tf2/

fuzzy
07-05-2007, 01:54 PM
The article also says something about the constructicons... awsome.

Devastator vs the Dinobots would definately be some awsome CGI

Kaylore
07-05-2007, 07:33 PM
Boo to Dinobots. That will be over the top with too much CGI.

I think the people that didn't like it expected too much. I like a lot of really great films that are critically acclaimed like The Third Man, for example, is one of my favorite movies. So is Back to the Future. It's all about what you expect. I love fine dining and I like nacho supremes from Taco Bell. If I got a nacho supreme at a place like the Broker, I'd be pretty pissed off. I think if you go to a movie like Transformers, you need to have the right expectations. I went in expecting a crappy robot movie for kids and it was better than that and I enjoyed myself.

bpc
07-06-2007, 01:46 AM
I watched this movie tonight. I didn't want to believe the hype because when I saw the screen shots of the transformers, I thought some of them looked silly. I was wrong. For the most part they all looked really cool. I could have done without seeing Optimus Prime's mouth. IT's COVERED DAMMIT!

Anyways, i thought there was so many parts in this movie that could have been cut to make it flow better. The first 1/3 of it built suspense and then delivered... then it kind of ebbed and flowed back in forth needlessly. I wanted more from Optimus Prime as it seemed like he took more than he gave.

I don't want to put spoilers on this anymore than I have to.

This is how I will always remember Optimus Prime... and you all should too.

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I think the Dinobots would kick ass. I don't know how they would do the Destructicons because they already used Devastators name and also Bonecrusher.

Honestly, I don't know where else they could take this series besides the Dinobots unless they planned on bringing Unicron into it.

Kaylore
07-06-2007, 01:52 AM
Prime is the man.

bpc
07-06-2007, 01:56 AM
Soundwave would be the first that comes to mind. I'm not a surpeme transformers guru, but I think he was actually more powerful than megatron.

Soundwave+the Dinobots would definately be awsome to see in the sequel.

And, yeah, count me in the 'this movie kicked ass' crowd. Good stuff.

No way. Soundwave wasn't even close.

I would have to say most powerful decepticons or non-autobots:

1. Unicron - He swallowed planets for christ-sake.
2. Scorpinox - One of the head masters... he took on Metroplex who is the size of a city. Much bigger than Megatron.
3. Galvatron - Megatron after Unicron twisted him into something worse.
4. Megatron - Still very very powerful.

One could also say that Grimlock is not a pure face. Optimus Prime had a hard time controlling him and almost got rid of the dinobots countless times. That could provide a great plot for the next movie. I don't know if Optimus can beat Grimlock without the help of the matrix.

bpc
07-06-2007, 01:57 AM
Prime is the man.

I love how he just runs everybody down in that one. If you saw the movie, you knew the dire straights that the autobots were in... Prime turned the tide!

bpc
07-06-2007, 01:58 AM
Family guy loves the transformers!

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bpc
07-06-2007, 02:07 AM
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/02/thousands-flock-to-web-to-solve-jj-abrams-transformers-trailer-mystery/


"Drumroll…. And the answer is: The 8:00pm opening night screenings of Transformers just let out. That’s what happened. Thousands of east coast movie-goers ran home to find out the answer to a question that probably bothered them throughout the entire film:

What the heck was up with that movie trailer?

Regular /Film readers will instantly know what I’m referring to. The trailer attached to Transformers is for a top secret JJ Abrams produced monster movie."

My son noticed the move didn't have a name and didn't show the "monster". His theory is it is Transformers 2. I was impressed he caught this. I'm not quick enough to notice things like this so he didn't get it from my side of the family and no way did he get his smarts from my inlaws. Must have been a damn smart mailman.;)

I don't know what in the hell that trailer was for, it did look seriously sick though. I doubt it was another transformers movie. Its supposed to be coming out next January.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-06-2007, 03:02 AM
Boo to Dinobots. That will be over the top with too much CGI.

I think the people that didn't like it expected too much. I like a lot of really great films that are critically acclaimed like The Third Man, for example, is one of my favorite movies. So is Back to the Future. It's all about what you expect. I love fine dining and I like nacho supremes from Taco Bell. If I got a nacho supreme at a place like the Broker, I'd be pretty pissed off. I think if you go to a movie like Transformers, you need to have the right expectations. I went in expecting a crappy robot movie for kids and it was better than that and I enjoyed myself.


I agree, but only to an extent. Obviously, my expectations for something like the Transformers are much different than the ones for American Beauty for example, but to sacrifice story simply because of the "popcorn" nature of the film is nothing short of a cop out. First off, I don't believe anyone in the theater was expecting Citizen Kane, so no need for the lecture on how the movie should be viewed. Secondly, no July 4th blockbuster is a movie "for kids." (especially when your core audience for this film is probably men in their 20's and 30's since they grew up with the toy). In fact, one of my major problems with the movie was they felt the need to pander to that age group all too often. The kids would have been entertained regardless, no reason to fill the story with kid like moments that detracted from both the pacing and tone of the film. Also, the story was carelessly told and the ending was kind of strange considering Shia's entire last mission was obviously futile from go. We all knew it, so why did we have to sit through it.

Listen, I know why movies are made. I've worked in this business for 10+ years. Its clearly about money (especially ones made on this scale.) But I don't believe expectations should ever be lowered just because of what kind of movie it is. Though our expectations will be DIFFERENT, they should be altered to exist within the world of the film. I know Transformers was a popcorn flick, but it didnt work on any sort of plot or emotional level. Could it have? Absolutely. Did it, no. So while I fully understand that this is a "nacho supreme," it doesnt mean we should be ok with the cheese being moldy and the meat cold.

That said, the movie is gonna make a gazillion dollars and most moviegoers aren't film/lit buffs, so people will enjoy it as is. But for those who are, i don't think expectations should be lowered simply because of the nature of the film.

bpc
07-06-2007, 03:38 AM
You know its a slow night when i'm trolling YOUTUBE for Transformers clips. This one is by far the funniest thing I have seen on YOUTUBE though. If you were a diehard Transformers fan from Season 1 through Transformers the movie... and then into the mess of Generation 2, you will die laughing at this.

CAUTION!: Do not play this at work or in front of kids because it some some explicit language... it is funny as hell though!

Its about 4 and half minutes in length. ENJOY! SCREW HOT ROD!

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Jason in LA
07-06-2007, 02:40 PM
I saw the movie last night. I liked it a lot, and my son loved it. But I did have one major problem with the movie. They developed the human characters much more than the Transformers.

As a kid I watched Transformers everyday, but I'm not a fanboy, so I haven't seen it since I was a kid. But from what I remember the cartoon was driven by the Transformers, with a few human characters who were on weekly. The cartoon developed the characters of the Transformers very well. They all had different personalities. The Transformers were the stars, not the humans.

But in the movie it was like the humans were more important. Their personalities were developed, and the humans really played a larger role in the movie. A much larger role. Outside of the fight scenes, what did the Transformers really do? Not a whole lot.

The only two Transformers who were developed were Optimus Prime and Megatron.

I was expecting to see the Autobots vs. the Decepticons, but there were only 5-6 members from each group. And hardly any of them had their characters developed.

From what I remember from the cartoon, Megatron and Starscream did not get along in anyway. They kind of hated each other. Starscream wanted to be the leader, but Megatron always put him in his place. But Megatron always needed Starscream because he was such a badass, which we all saw in the movie. That scene where he was taking out those fighter plans was awsome. But they didn't do much with Starscream, or his problems with Megatron. The only interaction that I remember them having was after Megatron was freed, he said to Starscream "You've failed me again", or something like that.

As much as I enjoyed this movie, it was too much about the humans and not enough about the Transformers. At times I didn't even know which Transformers were which because they didn't develop them as characters.

Like I said at the beginning, it was a good movie. Very entertaining. The kids will love it, and most people who didn't watch the Transformers everyday, but for somebody who watched the cartoon and knows the characters (damn, I'm starting to sound like a fan boy), it was lacking.

Hopefully in the second one it's more about the Transformers, and there are more of them. And they have to bring Megatron back. It would be stupid not to. And don't wait until the movie is damn near over, like they did in this one. They waited too long to insert him in the movie.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-06-2007, 02:53 PM
And that might be its main problem. You have to make it a humanesque movie because thats what people grasp, but it wasn't an us vs. them mentality (like independence day), it was a them vs. them, thus creating a strange conflict that was hard to relate to.

Jason in LA
07-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Soundwave was the boombox in the cartoon but he was absent in the film. The radio in the film was Frenzy, which in the cartoon was one of the tapes that came out of Soundwave.

If I'm remembering right Soundwave was Megatron's right hand man, and when ever Megatron would transform into a guy Soundwave would fire him.

Soundwave had one very cool cassette, which was Ravage. Ravage would transform into a black panther...I think. He was small, and was used as a spy. Then he would return to Soundwave, who would play back his recordings.

Beantown Bronco
07-06-2007, 02:56 PM
And that might be its main problem. You have to make it a humanesque movie because thats what people grasp, but it wasn't an us vs. them mentality (like independence day), it was a them vs. them, thus creating a strange conflict that was hard to relate to.

Kind of like the Alien vs. Predator dilemma. That movie could've been an absolute classic. People begged for it.....and in the right hands it would've worked.....but sadly, it never got in the right hands.

Jason in LA
07-06-2007, 03:08 PM
And that might be its main problem. You have to make it a humanesque movie because thats what people grasp, but it wasn't an us vs. them mentality (like independence day), it was a them vs. them, thus creating a strange conflict that was hard to relate to.

I can see that point. I guess it only sucks for people who watched the cartoon and remembered all of the characters. The cartoon developed the characters of the Transformers really well, which the movie did not.

Rock Chalk
07-06-2007, 03:50 PM
I thought they developed Bumblebee quite well.

Hell when I thought he was going to die, I was kinda pissed.

And while the interaction between Starscream and Megatron was small, there was some notible animosity. When Megatron was getting blasted by the Raptors, they show Starscream just bounce on him. He realized Megatron was done for and he wasnt going to help him which, he very well could have because like you said, he is a bad ass. Starscream fled, as Starscream of the cartoons would have done, instead of helping Megatron.

Besides, teh cartoons built those characters over many episodes. If they make more, which I hope they do, there will be more focus on the Transformers themselves.

Jason in LA
07-06-2007, 03:58 PM
I understand that they built those characters over many episodes, but that doesn't mean that they could not have developed those characters in this movie. They had no problem developing the human characters. Just don't write so much of the dialog for the humans. Write more of it for the Transformers. At times it was like the Transformers were just in the background as the humans tried to figure things out.

There should have been a lot more dialog between Megatron and Starscream. I bet most people who didn't watch the cartoon weren't even aware of the bad blood between them from watching the movie.

And Bumble Bee didn't talk until the end. I liked that they give him emotions, but how about some speaking lines?

Rock Chalk
07-06-2007, 04:03 PM
I understand that they built those characters over many episodes, but that doesn't mean that they could not have developed those characters in this movie. They had no problem developing the human characters. Just don't write so much of the dialog for the humans. Write more of it for the Transformers. At times it was like the Transformers were just in the background as the humans tried to figure things out.

There should have been a lot more dialog between Megatron and Starscream. I bet most people who didn't watch the cartoon weren't even aware of the bad blood between them from watching the movie.

And Bumble Bee didn't talk until the end. I liked that they give him emotions, but how about some speaking lines?

The fact that I gave a crap about Bumblebee at all without the lines of dialog shows pretty good character development. Words dont build characters alone, actions do. Bumblebee was the best Transformer in the movie for me.

You have to consider also, that while this movie has been a long time coming for Transformers fans, to make a crapload of money - which is after all, the point of making a movie - you have to appeal to a wider range. 25-35 year old men were a given, but you gotta entertain the girlfriends too ya know. They like human stories.

jonny1
07-06-2007, 04:04 PM
I have an observation about what seems like a major plot screw-up, for those of you who have seen the movie.

SPOILER ALERT!!!


The big deal about the kid getting the glasses.

Now, the great-grandfather found the cube and Megatron in the Arctic in 1909 or something, correct? And he touched the cube, and the location was imprinted on the glasses, right? And that's why the autobots needed the glasses.

But the cube and Megatron had been moved by the military to that secret location, so wouldn't the glasses have taken the autobots to the arctic, not to the base where it was hidden? Or did I miss something?

Rock Chalk
07-06-2007, 04:09 PM
I have an observation about what seems like a major plot screw-up, for those of you who have seen the movie.

SPOILER ALERT!!!


The big deal about the kid getting the glasses.

Now, the great-grandfather found the cube and Megatron in the Arctic in 1909 or something, correct? And he touched the cube, and the location was imprinted on the glasses, right? And that's why the autobots needed the glasses.

But the cube and Megatron had been moved by the military to that secret location, so wouldn't the glasses have taken the autobots to the arctic, not to the base where it was hidden? Or did I miss something?


The cube wasnt in the artice, only Megatron. The cube landed in the Colorado River. They built Hoover Dam around the cube.

Arkansas Bronco
07-06-2007, 04:10 PM
I just wanna know why _____ didnt use his s___ in the final battle. It seemed to do well in the first one.

Edit - True he didnt touch it there he touch the other thing.

Jason in LA
07-06-2007, 06:52 PM
The fact that I gave a crap about Bumblebee at all without the lines of dialog shows pretty good character development. Words dont build characters alone, actions do. Bumblebee was the best Transformer in the movie for me.

You have to consider also, that while this movie has been a long time coming for Transformers fans, to make a crapload of money - which is after all, the point of making a movie - you have to appeal to a wider range. 25-35 year old men were a given, but you gotta entertain the girlfriends too ya know. They like human stories.


You kind of proved my point. The best Transformer to you was one that didn't even talk. Because none of their characters were developed (including Bumble Bees), except for Prime. There was nothing to latch onto about any of them. The humans were the stars of this movie. It should have been the Transformers. I'm thinking back to the cartoon, and I can't think of any of the human characters. I think there were a few who had weekly roles. But they played smaller parts. The Transformers were the stars.

If they are going to call the movie "Transformers", it would make sense to have some dialog for the Transformers.

They could have developed their characters more and still hit a wider range. My point isn't to cut the humans out of the movie. It is to develop the characters of the Transformers more. What is wrong with that? The movie is called "Transformers"...right?

Kaylore
07-06-2007, 07:03 PM
I just wanna know why _____ didnt use his s___ in the final battle. It seemed to do well in the first one.

Edit - True he didnt touch it there he touch the other thing.

huh? You Mean Optimus' weapon that he takes out Bonecrusher with?

Requiem
07-06-2007, 07:05 PM
I have heard a lot about it, and I still haven't seen it. I guess I must have missed the 11 calls last night from the same friend who has already been to it five times. . .

Voice message. "You're missing out, **** you."

Sorry.

Is it that good?

27atwater
07-06-2007, 07:46 PM
I think it is.

It's impossible to develop 10 separate robot characters, add the human element AND develop a complete storyline w/in 1 hour and 20 minutes. The movie left me wanting more. Next time around, we already know the humans...it will be all about the robots.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-06-2007, 07:51 PM
I actually wished the robots didnt speak at all. gave it such a campy feel. but those expecting some homage to the cartoon, im not sure what you were expecting. This is a movie that had to be generalized and speak to all audiences. If you want the cartoon movie, go watch it, it was made 20 years ago and features Stan Bush's "Youve Got The Touch!"

Rock Chalk
07-06-2007, 07:55 PM
You kind of proved my point. The best Transformer to you was one that didn't even talk. Because none of their characters were developed (including Bumble Bees), except for Prime. There was nothing to latch onto about any of them. The humans were the stars of this movie. It should have been the Transformers. I'm thinking back to the cartoon, and I can't think of any of the human characters. I think there were a few who had weekly roles. But they played smaller parts. The Transformers were the stars.

No, I didnt prove your point. You make an assumption that I liked Bumblebee the best because the others werent developed. Wrong. I liked Bumblebee the best because even without dialog, he seemed to have the deepest genuine caring for those pesky human characters they developed in the movie. You know, what I am.

The humans weren't the stars of this movie. They made excellent sidekicks, but the best part about this movie was the transformers. As for the cartoon, the main human character (Something Witwicky, it wasnt Sam though), was in every episode. You just dont remember because the cartoon gave most of the highlights to the Transformers. Which is fine, because kids were the target demographic, not adults and adults, while we love robots and explosions, want to be able to connect with humans.

If they are going to call the movie "Transformers", it would make sense to have some dialog for the Transformers.

Watch it again, there was plenty of dialog with the transformers. Granted, there could have been more, and then the people who liked the human aspect would have bitched that there werent enough human lines.

They could have developed their characters more and still hit a wider range. My point isn't to cut the humans out of the movie. It is to develop the characters of the Transformers more. What is wrong with that? The movie is called "Transformers"...right?

Yeah, but like any "first" movie, you have to lay groundwork. Introduction to the Transformers and their fight scenes was more than enough. Human character development is much more difficult to establish since we are all humans and know how humans are. I think they did a fine job of this. In round 2, Im sure we will see more of the Transformer's development as characters and thus get a far less entertaining movie. Might be a "better" movie, but quite frankly, all the development the transformers need in my humble opinion is transforming and kicking ass.

Its all good, everyone will have their own opinion. Though I havent met anyone outside of the web that had even a remotely negative thing to say about the movie, you are always sure to find a dissenting (and wrong) opinion on the internet :P

27atwater
07-06-2007, 07:57 PM
I dunno about your experience, but EVERY time a new Transformer was introduced, spoke and/or Transformed, 1/2 the audience was oohing and aahing. That, to me, says it got it's desired result.

NYBronco
07-06-2007, 08:02 PM
We just came home from the theatre and really enjoyed watching this movie. When it was over alot of the audience applauded. I can't remember the last time that happened after a movie.

Kaylore
07-06-2007, 08:22 PM
Jason, the movie was about the Transformers, but humans were used as a foil to uncover who they were and what they stood for. This was because the audience is human, and not transformers. I personally think they did things right and were able to bring the story out and the alien nature of the Transformers from the human perspective. I think if they just showed robots talking all the time, it would have sucked pretty badly.

Arkansas Bronco
07-06-2007, 08:45 PM
huh? You Mean Optimus' weapon that he takes out Bonecrusher with?

yes just trying not to give anything away.

bpc
07-06-2007, 08:59 PM
I actually wished the robots didnt speak at all. gave it such a campy feel. but those expecting some homage to the cartoon, im not sure what you were expecting. This is a movie that had to be generalized and speak to all audiences. If you want the cartoon movie, go watch it, it was made 20 years ago and features Stan Bush's "Youve Got The Touch!"

That movie was great. Untouchable.

27atwater
07-06-2007, 09:49 PM
Agreed. I think some are looking WAY too much into this. It was very entertaining, funny, had sick graphics and some very nice eye candy in Fox and the brit. Some kid humor, sure, but still funny otherwise. Let it go. The movie was awesome. no need to nitpick.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-07-2007, 04:18 AM
Lets remember that this the first of a a trilogy. We are being introduced to the Transformers. In two we are going to see a lot more of the Transformers. Hopefully a lot more of Megan Fox :devil:. As far as character if yo remember the carton it was always equal parts human and Transformers. The only time it was loopsided was in the movie where it was 90-10 split. I mean in the series the reason the Autobots always came out ahead was because they trusted and need the humans to help them and the Decepticons lost was because they lacked the human connection and trust between themselves.

bpc
07-07-2007, 11:47 AM
I think they could have dropped half the people from the cast and this movie would have been much more concise along with getting to know the robots better.

BleedingOrange
07-07-2007, 01:14 PM
The cast of humans will probably play more of a role in the next movie.

27atwater
07-07-2007, 06:13 PM
I think they could have dropped half the people from the cast and this movie would have been much more concise along with getting to know the robots better.

nah...whodo you drop? The one's you are likely to mention had bit parts anyways. the soldiers...necessary. the techies...necessary. the kid's parents...necessary. Everyone fit just fine.

Watching a bunch of robots beat on eachother w/o a story or human interaction can only be so noteworthy...if at all.

Turf Shaman
07-07-2007, 08:18 PM
I absolutely loathe Michael Bay movies, and I'd been planning to avoid this one til a friend called me up and asked me to see it. I was all into explaining all the reasons why I'd lose a bit of my soul if I saw it when he reminded me that we saw the animated movie together when we were kids... so in the end I had to agree to see it with him in the name of symmetry.

Anyway, I was expecting to hate it and was prepared for a headache inducing experience, but it wasn't that bad. Bay still sucks at directing action, his shots are too tight and he cuts too quickly, but when it's cool looking fighting robots it's not as irritating, even though with a better director it would have been so much cooler. It was funnier then I thought it would be, and hearing all those same cartoon voices coming out of really great computer animated versions has an undeniable goofy appeal. Oh yeah, and Megan Fox's screen time didn't hurt at all.

So while it could have been better with a decent director and if you could tell any of the robots apart or if it made even a lick of sense why the Sam and the hot chick would be so attached to Bumblebee and what not, I had no hope going in that it would work on any of those levels, while it worked in some ways I wasn't expecting.

KCStud
07-07-2007, 08:25 PM
Did anybody else have a hard time figuring out which Transformer was which in the battle scenes?

And I was so p.o.'ed before the movie started because of the flick of the movie that had no name but it looked like it had amazing graphics.

Arkansas Bronco
07-07-2007, 09:08 PM
The unnamed preview did exactly what it was suppose to do and that get people talking about it. It has generated a ton of hype already with out ever seeing a thing

Spider
07-07-2007, 09:17 PM
I just saw a burger king ad ........379 ext hood pete , those J bars on the headlights are 300.00 per side , that hood alone without paint job 60 K ...... chopped roof , if I had that rig , and the owner had a feather up his butt we both would be tickled

anthonypacino
07-07-2007, 09:33 PM
Did anybody else have a hard time figuring out which Transformer was which in the battle scenes?

And I was so p.o.'ed before the movie started because of the flick of the movie that had no name but it looked like it had amazing graphics.

Yeah, together it looked like junk falling out of the sky. That's why I had a beef with their look. I didn't like the open exo-skeleton look like a no skin Terminator. If they would have been "closed up" like the cartoon versions and fully painted it would have been easier to tell who's who in combat. I also liked it better when they carried their own guns, and they all didn't have machine guns pop out.

Gcver2ver3
07-08-2007, 12:40 AM
Just saw it....

It was amazing....the CG was uncanny

I don't feel like breaking it down now but i may later if the thread is still going strong...

27atwater
07-08-2007, 02:16 AM
Just saw it again at the drive-in (also Fantastic 4, which SUCKED OUT LOUD BTW). Not as funny the 2nd time, but still dam good.


*********POTENTIAL SPOILER*********
The question I left with...is Starscream alive? I know we saw him get lit up after he took out the jets, but it cut to the final mega/OP scene so quick, I never saw him die.

Casper Bronco
07-08-2007, 02:42 AM
Just saw it again at the drive-in (also Fantastic 4, which SUCKED OUT LOUD BTW). Not as funny the 2nd time, but still dam good.


*********POTENTIAL SPOILER*********
The question I left with...is Starscream alive? I know we saw him get lit up after he took out the jets, but it cut to the final mega/OP scene so quick, I never saw him die.


Highlight for answer Atwater (It shows him flying into space during the credits)

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-08-2007, 03:00 AM
Just saw it again at the drive-in (also Fantastic 4, which SUCKED OUT LOUD BTW). Not as funny the 2nd time, but still dam good.


*********POTENTIAL SPOILER*********
The question I left with...is Starscream alive? I know we saw him get lit up after he took out the jets, but it cut to the final mega/OP scene so quick, I never saw him die.

Spoiler Alert: Highlight from here(StarScream Lives!!! During the closing credits after the Parents interview you see a F-22 fly into space.).

SonOfLe-loLang
07-08-2007, 03:25 AM
The unnamed preview did exactly what it was suppose to do and that get people talking about it. It has generated a ton of hype already with out ever seeing a thing

It's a JJ Abrams monster movie called Cloverfield (i think thats the name, its something like that). Very hush hush, but the whole movie is told the same way the trailer was...the handheld, 1st person POV type thing. Looks interesting. It's been a hush hush movie at Paramount for quite some time..small named actors, etc.

anthonypacino
07-08-2007, 03:40 AM
It's a JJ Abrams monster movie called Cloverfield (i think thats the name, its something like that). Very hush hush, but the whole movie is told the same way the trailer was...the handheld, 1st person POV type thing. Looks interesting. It's been a hush hush movie at Paramount for quite some time..small named actors, etc.

oh no, a 21st century "Blair Witch" but with effects. I had to watch that thing in the first row when it came out, the camera shook so much I thought I was gonna puke.

Abrams is supposed to be working on the next Star Trek film, it's based on Kirk and Spock's academy days, like 90210 in space. Matt Damon has been rumored to be the lead as Kirk.

27atwater
07-08-2007, 08:56 AM
Thanx fellas...Soldier and Casper

Traveler
07-16-2007, 09:57 AM
Lets remember that this the first of a a trilogy. We are being introduced to the Transformers. In two we are going to see a lot more of the Transformers. Hopefully a lot more of Megan Fox :devil:. As far as character if yo remember the carton it was always equal parts human and Transformers. The only time it was loopsided was in the movie where it was 90-10 split. I mean in the series the reason the Autobots always came out ahead was because they trusted and need the humans to help them and the Decepticons lost was because they lacked the human connection and trust between themselves.

The young lady in Transformers is okay, but she's not all that. Not enough behind for my taste. As for the movie, it's the best I've seen all year!

BleedingOrange
07-16-2007, 01:32 PM
My three daughters went to see Transformers and the new Harry Potter film. Even though my oldest is a big Harry Potter fan, they all agree Transformers was the movie they liked best.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-16-2007, 01:41 PM
The young lady in Transformers is okay, but she's not all that. Not enough behind for my taste. As for the movie, it's the best I've seen all year!

For me its the eyes. I'm a sucker for light eyes and dark hair. Its that contrast that makes it stunning.

Traveler
07-16-2007, 02:05 PM
For me its the eyes. I'm a sucker for light eyes and dark hair. Its that contrast that makes it stunning.

Don't get me wrong, she is attractive. It's just sad when you can't even fill out a skirt.

No offense to the women on the Mane who might fall into that category.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-16-2007, 02:28 PM
Don't get me wrong, she is attractive. It's just sad when you can't even fill out a skirt.

No offense to the women on the Mane who might fall into that category.

Yeah she could use more of a bubble butt and thicker thighs. But I think that she had good hips and you can't fake that.