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dragondawg
07-02-2007, 01:46 AM
By Nate Ingle
Austin, Texas

I find it humorous that most "NFL Experts" in the major media outlets are predicting either the San Diego Chargers or the Denver Broncos to finish first in the AFC West. Most of these "Experts" are using the platform of how teams performed the prior season.

But they are forgetting a couple of things here that are going to play a vital role in these teams' success. Let's start with the San Diego Chargers.

The Chargers had a tremendous regular season last year, but again was lack uster in the postseason. They had an outstanding performance from LT (as always), and an equally impressive performance from their defense (which finished 10th in the League; 7 spots below the Raiders).

Their offense finished 4th in the League, but 16th overall in passing. Their top 3 receivers were Gates, Parker, and Tomlinson. They haven't really made a move in this area, and I think this is one area that could hurt them.

The other big thing that will hurt them this season is the coaching moves (or lack thereof). They had the opportunity to replace Schottenheimer with either Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips, or Offensive Coordinator Cam Cameron. So what do the Chargers do? Right off the bat, the upper management makes a stance which indicates they may be keep Schottenheimer. So Cam Cameron was the first to go, he ended up in Miami.

Not too long after that, it was Wade Phillips who left, and he ended up in Dallas. After those two left, they axed Schottenheimer? That's not the surprising part to me yet. It's who they replaced Schottenheimer with. Again, keep in mind they could have had Phillips or Cameron, but no they let them go.

They bring in Norv Turner, who has a worse record in the regular season than Schottenheimer has in the postseason. But they are still predicted to top the AFC West? I think that's absurd.

Then you have the Broncos, who finished 3rd overall last season. They cut Jake Plummer, making Jay Cutler their No. 1. But they made some free agency moves, and spent big money to bring in guys that, well for all intent and purposes, the majority of them are overrated.

They did make some good moves though. Let's start with Dre Bly. He's quick, he lead the Lions in interceptions, and he is going to compliment Champ Bailey nicely. The othe move I liked that they made was the signing of Travis Henry. That should bring them some stability at RB. The problem I have with these 2 moves though, they didn't address their needs. They need a WR, LB, and some beef on the O-line and D-line.

They signed Sam Adams at DT to help stuff the run, but they don't have anyone to help take double teams off him in Denver. Not to mention Cutler as their QB, and not having a veteran to help him out more.

The Chiefs? Well the only thing they have going for them is they didn't change head coaches. They no longer have Trent Green, but seemed to fair better with Huard at the helm last season. Their defense is the big gaping hole, which finished 16th overall; so did their offense. They need some serious help at the WR position too, which could help them bolster their offensive numbers. Tony Gonzalez and Larry Johnson can only take you so far.

The Raiders? The biggest hole on this team is the offensive line. The success of their season will depend on how they play, as they have their fourth coach since Gruden left. But Kiffin seems to be the guy who can bring stability to the team. The offensive line had two coaches last year under Art Shell, who were telling them 2 different things; and I believe the coaching was the difference on the offense last year.

With Kiffin, I think he will bring a system that will work to the strengths of the players we have on the roster. No other team in the AFC did more to bolster their needs than the Raiders. The biggest moves to me were Dominic Rhodes coming in at RB. He will get some great playing time which he was losing to Joseph Addai in Indianapolis, and LaMont coming in off the bench to give him a breather, gives us the depth at RB that we need since Garner and Wheatley. Once Michael Bush is healthy and ready to run, we have an outstanding running game.

QB is still up in the air. JaMarcus was a great pick for us in the draft, but he will not be an immediate impact. McCown is a great move, and will fit Kiffin's system like Gannon did with Gruden.

The other impact player will be Zack Miller at TE, another position that has been vastly improved. It's hard to argue against success that the Raiders may/may not have. But what hurts them again is learning a new system for the 4th time in 5 years; the inexperience of their head coach (but he has surrounded himself with outstanding coaches with great experience); and the offensive line. The positives, they kept Rob Ryan and the defense in place.

They could improve that defense with the signing of a DT and signing Donovan Darius, and moving Stuart Schweigert out as starter. Schweigert's weakness is tackling, something Darius improves immediately in that position.

So with that here is my predicted standings. I base this, not on last season's performance, but on how the teams improved their weakness, the impact players will have, and potential weakness that still exsist.

1. Denver Broncos (10-6)-I think they win the division simply because of the moves they made in free agency. Dre Bly, Travis Henry, Daniel Graham are the biggest impacts, that will help Cutler out as he further develops. It's hard to pick anyone else here in this spot, as much as I hate it.

2. Oakland Raiders (9-7)-I think Kiffin makes an immediate impact here. His only 2 losses against the AFC West come from the Denver Broncos. Call it a "gut feeling" that I am going with.

3. San Diego Chargers (7-9)-Even with Tomlinson. Their offense will be okay, much like the Chiefs. An outstanding RB, but no receivers. Turner has proven as head coach that he does not understand the defensive side of the ball, so their defense will fall. As well, he has failed to do anything as head coach with an offense. The style he brings to San Diego is not much different than Marty Schottenheimer's, but he won't have the success Schottenheimer had. A head coach is only as good as his assistants, and Norv doesn't have the assistants that Marty had.

4. Kansas City Chiefs (7-9)-They tie with the Chargers, but have a worse Divisional record which is why they sit at the basement. Too many of the same problems that they've had for a long time. An aging mediocre defense and an aging mediocre offense. They have a lot of holes that haven't been filled on both sides of the ball, and they don't seem to be in a hurry to fill them.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2007/07/01/calling-the-afc-west/

cutthemdown
07-02-2007, 01:51 AM
no way 10-6 wins the west. It will take 11-5 at least IMO.

Los Broncos
07-02-2007, 01:52 AM
Raiders 9-7? Hilarious!

Los Broncos
07-02-2007, 01:53 AM
no way 10-6 wins the west. It will take 11-5 at least IMO.

At least, im thinking more like 13-3

Bob's your Information Minister
07-02-2007, 02:11 AM
Their defense is the big gaping hole, which finished 16th overall

Jesus Christ. This is completely uninformed. I also like how he gave the Chiefs ONE PARAGRAPH.

EDIT - Good lord, another ****ing blog. Stop posting this bullcrap.

DukeWoody
07-02-2007, 02:18 AM
Ah hahahahaha!!!Friggin raturds fans,blind hope is all they got....
This bloger was sniffin to much glue..9-7 take another huff...LOL

boltaneer
07-02-2007, 03:57 AM
It's a shame people don't do the proper research before writing articles, even if it's a blog.

TheReverend
07-02-2007, 07:09 AM
Too many of the same problems that they've had for a long time. An aging mediocre defense and an aging mediocre offense. They have a lot of holes that haven't been filled on both sides of the ball, and they don't seem to be in a hurry to fill them.

Regardless of what you think of the article... he got that part pretty damn right.

crowebomber
07-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Wow,where was I this offseason? The only move we made on the defensive line was to sign Sam Adams? Alrighty then.

DenverBrit
07-02-2007, 10:48 AM
EDIT - Good lord, another ****ing blog. Stop posting this bullcrap.

Good advice. Remember it, before you post more of your crap!

bronco militia
07-02-2007, 10:53 AM
please stop starting threads linked to lame websites

rbackfactory80
07-02-2007, 11:03 AM
He finds it hilarious that experts are picking Den or S.D and then picks Denver himself.

12th man
07-02-2007, 12:53 PM
He finds it hilarious that experts are picking Den or S.D and then picks Denver himself.

Hilarious! What's even more funny is that he put the Raiders in second place and the Chargers won't even have a winning record.

400HZ
07-02-2007, 12:57 PM
I like the prediction of sweeps against both Kansas City and San Diego. How many years has it been since they won a division game? Three?

Popcorn Sutton
07-02-2007, 01:05 PM
He finds it hilarious that experts are picking Den or S.D and then picks Denver himself.

Scratching my head on this one...

Mountain Bronco
07-02-2007, 01:05 PM
WTF? Not only were his facts way off base, but he writting was terrible. Is this a middle school blogger?

kmartin575
07-02-2007, 01:57 PM
Regardless of what you think of the article... he got that part pretty damn right.

No he didn't. Regardless of where the Chiefs finish this year, it will not be because of the defense and especially not an "aging" defense.

DE Jared Allen- 25
DT Demarcus Tyler- 22
DT Ron Edwards- 28
DE Tamba Hali- 23
OLB Derrick Johnson- 24
MLB Napoleon Harris- 28
OLB Donnie Edwards- 34
CB Ty Law- 33
SS Bernard Pollard- 22
FS Jarrad Page- 22
CB Patrick Surtain- 31

The average age of that defense is 26.5. And we are an aging defense? LMAO

Popps
07-02-2007, 02:10 PM
The Chefs are absolutely going to melt down this year. I can't wait.

Los Broncos
07-02-2007, 02:15 PM
The Chefs are absolutely going to melt down this year. I can't wait.

For sure, no way they make it to the playoffs.

freak6
07-02-2007, 02:19 PM
I agree with alot of what he says, but then calling the Raiders to go 9-7 because of a rookie HC with that lack of talent on that team.

He just ruined all credibility there.

KCStud
07-02-2007, 02:41 PM
The Chefs are absolutely going to melt down this year. I can't wait.

lol why cause we got rid of Trent Green? This year will be filled with growing pains of young players, but it will be worth it in 08 and 09. Denver should have some pains from Cutler just as KC will with Croyle. Both QB's have a long way to go before being completely ready

boltaneer
07-02-2007, 05:18 PM
No he didn't. Regardless of where the Chiefs finish this year, it will not be because of the defense and especially not an "aging" defense.

DE Jared Allen- 25
DT Demarcus Tyler- 22
DT Ron Edwards- 28
DE Tamba Hali- 23
OLB Derrick Johnson- 24
MLB Napoleon Harris- 28
OLB Donnie Edwards- 34
CB Ty Law- 33
SS Bernard Pollard- 22
FS Jarrad Page- 22
CB Patrick Surtain- 31

The average age of that defense is 26.5. And we are an aging defense? LMAO

Take a close look at that list though.

How many of those players are in their prime? Allen and Derrick Johnson maybe? You either have a number of green players or players past thier prime. Not exactly a great mix.

kmartin575
07-02-2007, 05:23 PM
Take a close look at that list though.

How many of those players are in their prime? Allen and Derrick Johnson maybe? You either have a number of green players or players past thier prime. Not exactly a great mix.

Look at your defense. You are counting on Eric Weddle, Antonio Cromartie, Matt Willhelm, and Stephen Cooper all to be starters in the very near future. Not much of a difference.

Tamba Hali led the team in sacks last year. Why shouldn't he be considered a solid player.

And should Bernard Pollard and Jarrad Page be given the shaft simply because they are young?

You make absolutely no sense at all.

listopencil
07-02-2007, 09:04 PM
The strength of the SD D is that D-Line. The LB's aren't exactly chopped liver either. And I don't think Turner can screw up that O in just one season. I'm thinking we should have improved ourselves enough to fight SD for the division this year. But it will come down to us or them.

boltaneer
07-02-2007, 09:56 PM
Look at your defense. You are counting on Eric Weddle, Antonio Cromartie, Matt Willhelm, and Stephen Cooper all to be starters in the very near future. Not much of a difference.

Tamba Hali led the team in sacks last year. Why shouldn't he be considered a solid player.

And should Bernard Pollard and Jarrad Page be given the shaft simply because they are young?

You make absolutely no sense at all.

My point is that your defense is built on extreme ends right now: players who are on the downside of their career or players who don't have experience.

Cooper actually has started a number of games and has a good deal of playing experience already. Wilhelm as well although he hasn't started any games. They both rotate in on the defense quite a bit. We'll see how Wilhelm fares as an every down linebacker this year.

Cromartie is expected to end up as the 2nd starting corner sometime this year as he has the physical tools to bump Florence to nickel.

Weddle is a rookie, yes. So the four that you listed could be considered question marks but two of them have had a good deal of playing time over the past couple of years.

The majority of the other players on the defense are playing their best football right now.

Again, how many players can you say that about on the Chiefs?

SoCalBronco
07-02-2007, 10:00 PM
Sd 12-4
Den 11-5
Kc 9-7
Oak 7-9

kmartin575
07-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Sd 12-4
Den 11-5
Kc 9-7
Oak 7-9

I could see that happening, although I think Oakland is closer to 5 wins than 7.