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Bronco_Beerslug
06-28-2007, 10:22 AM
Talk about having balls, geeeezus!

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House members seek pay raise of $4,400 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_go_co/congress_pay_raise_7;_ylt=AlIo0mYMSiLUdeENQ.fH2ZkE 1vAI)
By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Despite low approval ratings and hard feelings from last year's elections, Democrats and Republicans in the House are reaching out for an approximately $4,400 pay raise that would increase their salaries to almost $170,000.

The cost-of-living raise endorsed Wednesday evening gets lawmakers back on track for automatic pay raises after a fight between the parties last year and again in January killed the pay increase due this year. That was the first interruption of the annual congressional pay boost in seven years.

The blowup came after Democrats last year fulfilled a campaign promise to deny themselves more pay until Congress raised the minimum wage. Delays in the minimum wage bill cost every lawmaker about $3,100 this year.

On a 244-181 vote Wednesday, Democrats and Republicans alike killed a bid by Reps. Jim Matheson, D-Utah, and Lee Terry, R-Neb., to get a direct vote to block the COLA, which is automatically awarded unless lawmakers vote to block it. The Senate has not indicated when it will deal with a similar measure.

As part of an ethics bill in 1989, Congress gave up its ability to accept pay for speeches and made annual cost-of-living pay increases automatic unless the lawmakers voted otherwise.

The annual vote on the pay hike comes on an obscure procedural move — instead of a direct up-or-down vote — and Democratic and GOP leaders each delivered a majority of their members to shut off the move to block the pay hike.

This year's vote was made ticklish by last year's battle. Republicans said Democrats broke a promise not to use the pay raise issue against GOP lawmakers in campaign ads and therefore were, generally speaking, more reluctant to supply votes.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., worked the floor during the vote to make sure there was relative balance between the warring parties in delivering votes. Working through Blunt, Hoyer forced more than a dozen Republicans to switch their votes in support of accepting the raise, including Reps. Mike Pence and Dan Burton of Indiana and Fred Upton, Dave Camp and Vernon Ehlers of Michigan.

Most members support the pay raise as a means of retaining experienced lawmakers and of making sure that Congress is not simply dominated by wealthy people. Many lawmakers maintain homes both in the expensive Washington housing market and back in their districts. On most days, they meet with lobbyists making far more than they do.

"Every member has some obligation to the institution for the compensation to, as much as possible, keep pace with inflation," Blunt told reporters Wednesday.

"I don't think this is the right time for members of Congress to be allowing the pay raise to go through without even an up-or-down vote," said Rep. Jim Matheson, D-Utah. "We need to show the American people we are willing to make some sacrifices ... that we recognize there's a struggle for some in today's economy."

The exact figure for this year's cost of living adjustment has not been settled under a complicated formula that awards lawmakers a smaller pay raise than civil servants. But opponents of the congressional COLA estimated a pay increase this year of 2.7 percent, or $4,460.

Senators and representatives presently make $165,200 a year, with a handful of leaders such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., earning more.

The pay raise would also apply to the vice president — who is president of the Senate — congressional leaders and Supreme Court justices.

This year, Vice President Dick Cheney, Pelosi and Chief Justice John Roberts receive $212,100. Associate justices receive $203,000. House and Senate party leaders get $183,500.

President Bush's salary of $400,000 is unaffected by the legislation.

alkemical
06-28-2007, 10:36 AM
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Denver Crush
06-28-2007, 11:49 AM
Id like to get on the speakers desk and take a big **** on it in front of all the congress.

alkemical
06-28-2007, 12:08 PM
Id like to get on the speakers desk and take a big **** on it in front of all the congress.

I figure if absuridty is the only way to not have a violent revoultion, but maybe get the point accross:

I'd like to have a million **** march. Where we all just go and take a big fat dump on the Whitehouse, Congress & Supreme court just to let them know what our opinion really is.

spdirty
06-28-2007, 01:16 PM
I think its valid. I mean they work hard for us all, day and night, only taking days off for holidays, weekends, and their summer break.

Way to go! You guys deserve it :thumbs:

defenseman
06-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Id like to get on the speakers desk and take a big **** on it in front of all the congress.

Isn't congressional approval these days in the teens now? the whole government is looking like a steaming pile of dog**** these days wrt credibility and trust...dman

alkemical
06-28-2007, 01:36 PM
They raise our taxes, they put the pinch on us for everything, and they have the gaul to ask for a pay raise. If they aren't giving us the middle-finger, they are certainly enjoying us bent over.

W*GS
06-28-2007, 02:28 PM
How come we hear some politicians demanding CEO pay be maxed at some multiple of ordinary Joe pay, but when it comes to their own salaries, the sky's the limit?

alkemical
06-28-2007, 02:37 PM
How come we hear some politicians demanding CEO pay be maxed at some multiple of ordinary Joe pay, but when it comes to their own salaries, the sky's the limit?

Who gives a ****, greedy pigs all stink.

Denver Crush
06-28-2007, 03:22 PM
Isn't congressional approval these days in the teens now? the whole government is looking like a steaming pile of dog**** these days wrt credibility and trust...dman


Dman, we can definitely agree on this. :thumbsup:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-28-2007, 06:28 PM
House Members Seek Pay Raise of $4,400



:oyvey:

You gotta be sh*ttin' me.

Their approval rating is almost as low as GeeDubya's and they think now is the time to ask for a raise?

Can you imagine if I worked for some corporation or other and asked my boss for a pay raise after I just received one of the worst performace evaluations in company history? That's essentially what's happening here.

Too bad these schmucks don't have to clear this sort of request with the people for whom they (supposedly) work.

REB
06-28-2007, 06:39 PM
It's our own damn fault. We keep voting in the same crooks, liars and hypocrites.

snowspot66
06-28-2007, 07:24 PM
Most members support the pay raise as a means of retaining experienced lawmakers and of making sure that Congress is not simply dominated by wealthy people. Many lawmakers maintain homes both in the expensive Washington housing market and back in their districts. On most days, they meet with lobbyists making far more than they do.




I liked that little blurb right there.

Garcia Bronco
06-28-2007, 07:54 PM
I wonder if we should put this on the main board? they can't get anything done...we are at war...and they vote themselves a raise?

Bronco_Beerslug
06-28-2007, 08:40 PM
I wonder if we should put this on the main board? they can't get anything done...we are at war...and they vote themselves a raise?No, you'll just piss off the mod that doesn't like me.

Garcia Bronco
06-28-2007, 08:49 PM
Colorado

For:
Diana DeGette, Tom Tancredo

Against: Doug Lamborn, Marilyn Musgrave, Ed Perlmutter, John Salazar, Mark Udall

Garcia Bronco
06-28-2007, 08:50 PM
It's our own damn fault. We keep voting in the same crooks, liars and hypocrites.

It's because we vote for them because of the wrong reasons and on issues..that really don't matter.

REB
06-28-2007, 09:32 PM
It's because we vote for them because of the wrong reasons and on issues..that really don't matter.

That too

Come on peeps. Let's vote libertarian and shake things up a bit :thumbsup:

REB
06-28-2007, 10:28 PM
June 28, 2007



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Bronco Bob
06-28-2007, 11:01 PM
Isn't congressional approval these days in the teens now? the whole government is looking like a steaming pile of dog**** these days wrt credibility and trust...dman

According to the latest Fox News poll, 36% approve and 49% disapprove of the job Democrats are doing in Congress
and 30% approve and 56% disapprove of the job Republicans are doing in Congress.

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm