OPEC makes threats against biofueld development

[yavoon]

http://priceofoil.org/2007/06/06/opec-warns-west-on-biofuels/

"Opec has warned western countries that their efforts to develop biofuels as an alternative energy source to combat climate change risks driving the price of oil “through the roof”."

[alkemical]

I thought competition lowered prices?

[Garcia Bronco]

I thought competition lowered prices?

Not against a cartel. Good thing we have an army over there. :)

[alkemical]

You wouldn't be inferring that by causing turmoil in the ME and ousting people in power, we ccan create enough strife that we deal with war lords, selling oil cheaper than opec - because they need to fund their little enclave do ya?

[The Lone Bolt]

While I deplore their effort to monopolize the fuel industry, I agree that biofuel is not the future. I think the future is in EVs.

[Garcia Bronco]

You wouldn't be inferring that by causing turmoil in the ME and ousting people in power, we ccan create enough strife that we deal with war lords, selling oil cheaper than opec - because they need to fund their little enclave do ya?

No...I think we should seize all their oil and slpit it amongst China, India, and ourselves.

[alkemical]

yeah, like that can be agreed upon.

[Denver Crush]

**** opec

[cutthemdown]

Opec is just worried they won't make as much money if we have alternative fuels. We have to soldier foward and not worry about their threats. Atlernative fuels have to be developed.

[defenseman]

Opec is just worried they won't make as much money if we have alternative fuels. We have to soldier foward and not worry about their threats. Atlernative fuels have to be developed.

Nuclear needs to be developed as well......dman

[Garcia Bronco]

the problem with biofuel..and in this case...e85..it's driving the cost of other goods up...and really it's less efficent and ultimately will cost us more than gas on that alone.

[Garcia Bronco]

Since OPEC is a cartel...it would seem the senate has deemed them illegal

6/19/07 Agreed to Roll call 215: On the Amendment
Kohl Amdt. No. 1519; To amend the Sherman Act to make oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal.

Party Yes No Not Voting
Democratic 44 2 3
Independent 2 0 0
Republican 24 21 3
Total 70 23 6

[NYBronco]

Is OPEC really that stupid?

With all their money they could / should be on the leading edge of any and all alternative fuels. By doing this they could even actually help themselves in stabilizing the region and maybe bring some peace.

But what the hell am I thinking?

[Bronco Bob]

Is OPEC really that stupid?

With all their money they could / should be on the leading edge of any and all alternative fuels. By doing this they could even actually help themselves in stabilizing the region and maybe bring some peace.

But what the hell am I thinking?

Hard to grow corn in the middle of a desert. Oil is all they have going for them,
otherwise they'd just be back to herding camels like they did for the previous
hundreds of years.

[alkemical]

Since OPEC is a cartel...it would seem the senate has deemed them illegal

6/19/07 Agreed to Roll call 215: On the Amendment
Kohl Amdt. No. 1519; To amend the Sherman Act to make oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal.

Party Yes No Not Voting
Democratic 44 2 3
Independent 2 0 0
Republican 24 21 3
Total 70 23 6

Does this mean we are going into iran?

[Bronco Bob]

Does this mean we are going into iran?

Why not Saudi Arabia? They are also part of OPEC.

[alkemical]

Why not Saudi Arabia? They are also part of OPEC.

I figured that Iran probably has some aluminum tubes or some gay-sars or something.

[colosilverado]

the problem with biofuel..and in this case...e85..it's driving the cost of other goods up...and really it's less efficent and ultimately will cost us more than gas on that alone.

Well, do we really want to reduce our dependence on oil, and more specifically, oil from the ME? It isn't going to come cheap....

[NYBronco]

Hard to grow corn in the middle of a desert. Oil is all they have going for them,
otherwise they'd just be back to herding camels like they did for the previous
hundreds of years.


Alternative fuels are not limited to corn.

They could be the uncontested hydrogen fuel cell developer.

[Denver Crush]

Well, do we really want to reduce our dependence on oil, and more specifically, oil from the ME? It isn't going to come cheap....


are you serious? Where do you think the terrorists live. This is the single biggest reason for why these people hate us. They dont hate us because of freedom like the "President" wants us to believe. They hate us because we have military bases in Saudi Arabia that are there solely to protect "our" oil.

[The Lone Bolt]

are you serious? Where do you think the terrorists live. This is the single biggest reason for why these people hate us. They dont hate us because of freedom like the "President" wants us to believe. They hate us because we have military bases in Saudi Arabia that are there solely to protect "our" oil.

We don't have military bases is Saudi Arabia. We pulled our troops out. Does this mean we are no longer controlling the oil there?

[yavoon]

We don't have military bases is Saudi Arabia. We pulled out troops out. Does this mean we are no longer controlling the oil there?

hardly, the jews that control america control the oil just fine. and by control I mean sell it to the world market at market prices. EVIL JEWS!

[Denver Crush]

We did pull out, in 2003. This was happening long before then. The Saudi royals are in bed with our government and have been for a long time.

[NYBronco]

The main reason why gas mileage on our cars has not changed in the past 35 years.