WWE's Chris Benoit and family found dead

[Northman]

Dont know if we have any wreslting fans here but this was some sad news i just found out about. Evidently tonight will be a 3 hour tribute to him.

http://www.wwe.com/

[Jens1893]

RIP if this isn´t a storyline.

[ZachKC]

Whole family? Holy ****. Thats terrible.

[Garcia Bronco]

Wow...I saw him in the Richmond airport one night. Unreal

[Garcia Bronco]

the must be new because there isn't another article out there on it.

[RhymesayersDU]

This is a huge deal over at another board I post at. Apparently, even the real news outlets are starting to report it, and it's looking more and more like it's NOT a storyline.

Very sad stuff.

[Northman]

Yea, this was just posted at my forum but i have no link to back it up. But, it could be true. Some real weird circumstances surrounding this. Here is what was posted.

Details remain very sketchy regarding the tragic news today that Chris Benoit and his family were found dead at their Atlanta area home. Benoit had been scheduled to appear on a WWE house show on Saturday. Sources tell us Benoit called to first say he would be taking a later flight, and then to say he would not be attending the house show due to a family illness. According to one source, Benoit said both his wife and son were throwing up blood and he needed to stay to take care of them.

At last night's Vengeance pay-per-view, Benoit was replaced in his match by Johnny Nitro.

No other details are available at this time and police are on the scene at the Benoit residence investigating.

[RhymesayersDU]

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a76b6326-1f90-4539-988e-cf4eb2b8cd7f&rss=59
http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=99172

[Northman]

Here's a link for that last post of mine.

http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=29026

[TDmvp]

one of last guys in wrestling i repected ... really sad ...

[OrangeShadow]

I was into wrestling when i was younger. terrible news

RIP

[ward63]

It's very sad that an entire family gets wipped out.

[MechanicalBull]

This is such horrible news about him, his wife, and his son. I was totally shocked when I found out when I turned on the television tonight. The story is everywhere now from cnn.com to espn.com.

I have actually been a wrestling fan my entire life and really liked the guys that could actually wrestle like Benoit. I was sitting on the floor at MSG for WM20 to watch him win the championship and then got his autograph a few days later and he was one of the most humble and respectful guys I ever met.

[chadta]

this sucks

i admit it, i watch wrestling, and currently the story line was that vince was dead, he actually came out of character to tell everybody about this, its like new years day all over again, im still in shock.

[Los Broncos]

OMG, unreal man.

I don't watch it like i use to back in the day. But this is very sad.

[SoDak Bronco]

wow anyword on how this happened? RIP, I've saw him perform, he was a good guy.

[freak6]

I saw them twist the Eddie Guerrero death into the show, talk about sickening. Hopefully they respectfully honor his career and let his legacy be what it is.

[Atlas]

Is it to early to say "steroid rage?"

[Los Broncos]

Is it to early to say "steroid rage?"

For sure man.

[TDmvp]

fox news just reported it being investigated as a homicide

[Los Broncos]

Who would want to kill him?

[Disco Man]

He called in the night before as he was going to wrestle at an ECW pay per view event, it was a personal issue he had to deal with. Now this the next day.....wow

[TheSportsGuru]

ABCNews is reporting that is being investigated as a Double-Homicide, suicide....

They said there were no gun-shots or stab wounds, but that the instruments used were at the location but wouldn't elaborate...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3315501&page=1

Wrestling star Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and their 7-year-old son Daniel were found dead in their suburban Atlanta home Monday. The deaths are being investigated as a possible suicide and double homicide, authorities told ABC News.

Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department told ABC News that Benoit had missed several appointments over the weekend, leading concerned parties to ask police to do a "welfare check." When sheriffs arrived at the Benoits' home, they found the wrestler, his wife, and their son dead.

<!-- -related- -->There were no signs of gunshot wounds or stabbing, according to Pope. Authorities are not ruling out other causes, such as poisoning, suffocation, or strangulation. Pope told ABC News that his department is looking at this situation as a "possible double murder, suicide."


Pope said "the instruments of death were located on scene," but would not specify what those instruments are or where in the house the bodies were found. Pope added the department is "not actively searching for any suspects outside of the house."

An autopsy has been scheduled for Tuesday morning at 10 a.m. However, it could be weeks before there is a result.
Benoit, 40, was scheduled to spar against C.M. Punk in a pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston for the Extreme Champion Wrestling title. But Benoit canceled before the event, citing personal reasons.

A native of Edmonton, Alberta, Benoit was known in the ring as the "Canadian Crippler."

Following the announcement of the deaths, World Wrestling Entertainment issued a statement: "Chris was beloved among his fellow superstars, and was a favorite among WWE fans for his unbelievable athleticism and wrestling ability. He always took great pride in his performance, and always showed respect for the business he loved, for his peers and towards his fans. This is a terrible tragedy and an unbearable loss. WWE extends its sincere condolences and prayers to the Benoit family and loved ones in this time of tragedy."
WWE announced that it would drop its planned Monday night line-up on the USA Network to air a three-hour tribute to Benoit.

In a sport known for bravado and bullying, Benoit was very much beloved and respected by his peers. He was passionate about his profession and served as a mentor to many younger, up-and-coming performers. As an indication of how much the fans enjoyed him, when the crowd in Houston's Toyota Center learned Sunday night that he wouldn't be there, they chanted, "We want Benoit!"

[Riddi]

This is a truly a sad day for wrestling fans. In two years the business has lost two incredible performers with Eddie Guerarro and now Chris Benoit! God Bless you Mr. Benoit

[Sassy]

He killed his family and then himself? So sad...

[Atlas]

He killed his family and then himself? So sad...

Just like a woman... Maybe his wife killed him and the children!!!

OK pretty far-fetched.

[broncolife]

so sad seeing him, his wife and kid in the ring during the tribute video.

[TheSportsGuru]

They are still trying to figure it out....Too early to tell...

[Sassy]

Just like a woman... Maybe his wife killed him and the children!!!

OK pretty far-fetched.

Well....since it said undisclosed weapons...and he made the call saying he'd be on a later flight...

[phillybroncosnut]

They jumped the gun on the tribute. Have the tribute after they find out what happened.
The WWE is gonna look like bozo's if it's found that Benoit is a murderer. If it's a tragic accident, I feel bad for Benoit. If he killed his son and wife and then killed himself, he is a focking scumbag!

[BroncosMT]

I remember watching him at a house show when he wrestled in Stampede Wrestling...I have always liked him. I got to meet him after the show and he was extremely humble. I will always remember that.

[Master___Pain]

He killed his family and then himself? So sad...

I don't think that's been determined. Perhaps its best to not speculate on what happened, yes?

What ever it was, it's terribly tragic.

[Sassy]

I don't think that's been determined. Perhaps its best to not speculate on what happened, yes?

What ever it was, it's terribly tragic.

No...that's true. But it's sounds like it could be the case.

[Los Broncos]

We should hold our comments till we find out what really happened.

[phillybroncosnut]

We should hold our comments till we find out what really happened.


Exactly what the WWE should have done.

[Master___Pain]

No...that's true. But it's sounds like it could be the case.

Um Sass, women are capable of doing some terrible things as well, Phil Hartman's wife ring a bell? Susan Smith? Let end the speculation for now and wait for the facts to come out.

[Sassy]

Um Sass, women are capable of doing some terrible things as well, Phil Hartman's wife ring a bell? Susan Smith? Let end the speculation for now and wait for the facts to come out.

Hence the ?? Mark...I know that...it's my opinion.

[theAPAOps5]

Um Sass, women are capable of doing some terrible things as well, Phil Hartman's wife ring a bell? Susan Smith? Let end the speculation for now and wait for the facts to come out.

Thank you, I thought that comment was a little premature myself. A case in point was Phil Hartman. His wife shot him. Granted he is a wrestler and pretty big but who knows how they died at this point. But to just say it was him is a tad presumptuous.

EDIT: NEVER MIND I MISSED THE ?? ??

And the odds are pretty high its him.

[Sassy]

He killed his family and then himself? So sad...

I put ? and "sounds like" and "my opinion" in my posts and I'm getting ragged on? Nevermind then.

[theAPAOps5]

I put ? and "sounds like" and "my opinion" in my posts and I'm getting ragged on? Nevermind then.

I am sorry Sassy, I missed the ?? and opinion part. The odds are probably high that it was him. Sorry to jump on you so quick.

[Sassy]

I am sorry Sassy, I missed the ?? and opinion part. The odds are probably high that it was him. Sorry to jump on you so quick.

:) You're forgiven...Hey, we all want some football and we aren't very patient at waiting ;D

[theAPAOps5]

It appears as if Benoit did murder his wife and son then himself. A detective told WAGA in Atlanta that it appears Benoit murdered his family sometime over the weekend and then committed suicide sometime Monday. Must be some sort of evidence pertaining to that.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3594146&version=9&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[freak6]

The wierd part is watching WWE dude talk about how "A man can be judged by his children....and Chris Benoit was a great father".

[MadCity]

According to one source, Benoit said both his wife and son were throwing up blood and he needed to stay to take care of them.

There were no signs of gunshot wounds or stabbing, according to Pope. Authorities are not ruling out other causes, such as poisoning, suffocation, or strangulation. Pope told ABC News that his department is looking at this situation as a "possible double murder, suicide."

I really don't want to believe it was a murder/suicide. What about the possibility of Carbon Monoxide poisoning?

[freak6]

I really don't want to believe it was a murder/suicide. What about the possibility of Carbon Monoxide poisoning?

Why are we even debating it?

Obviously he put them in the Cripple Crossface!

[MadCity]

Why are we even debating it?

Obviously he put them in the Cripple Crossface!

Benoit by Flying Headbutt off the couch thru the coffee table.



Classic ECW moment - Benoit breaks Sabu's neck

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NMI1QLzspxE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NMI1QLzspxE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

[TexanBob]

Total speculation but if somebody is intent on killing his wife and child without using blades or guns, and if he mentions they are both throwing up blood, I'm going to guess he poisoned them. There's some pretty nasty stuff out there that eats at you from the inside before you actually die.

However, most people who kill like that and don't instantly kill themselves too don't choose to die the same way. They choose a quicker end.

I do see the possibility where the poisonings were accidental and the guy kills himself out of a sense of guilt or grief. But, if so, why didn't he rush them to a hospital as soon as he knew they weren't well? Or call 9-1-1?

[Los Broncos]

Why are we even debating it?

Obviously he put them in the Cripple Crossface!

This is very tasteless.

[Don Flamenco]

The weapons were a plastic bag that his wife suffocated his son with, a telephone cord that Chris Benoit strangled his wife with when he found out about his son, and a rope that he hung himself with.

[maher_tyler]

I really don't want to believe it was a murder/suicide. What about the possibility of Carbon Monoxide poisoning?

It could be anything..do people throw up blood when they get corbon monoxide poisoning??

[MechanicalBull]

Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the lving room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, accordig t an unnamed source in the department.

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.

If all this turns out to be true then he is one deranged mad man. The whole story is very weird and crazy.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Professor Plum/conservatory/candlestick.

[Crushaholic]

Oh, the irony of this situation. Since McMahon began with his own "death" storyline two weeks ago, "Sensational" Sherrie (a manager in the late 80s and early 90s) and Benoit have actually died (along with his wife, who was ALSO a wrestling manager at one point). I've wondered if someone above is sending McMahon a message.

The Benoit tribute show basically ended the Vince McMahon storyline, as he opened the show with the sad news. I've always admired Benoit, but my opinion of him has changed IF the reports are true that he killed Nancy and Daniel.

[Hogan11]

By all accounts, he was a good guy....if he is responsible, it just goes to show that anyone can be pushed by something to the breaking point. There has to have been some inner demon or some type of overwhelmingly hopeless situation for him to have done this (if he did indeed do it).

There is nothing more dangerous than the feeling of hopelessness of any kind and this may very well be another example of that........very sad.

[KCbroncos]

A bit ironic that a former tag team partner of Benoit was also found dead in his house in Canada on Sunday??

[Hogan11]

A bit ironic that a former tag team partner of Benoit was also found dead in his house in Canada on Sunday??

Didn't hear that one.....Who was that?

[alkemical]

Really?

[Crushaholic]

A bit ironic that a former tag team partner of Benoit was also found dead in his house in Canada on Sunday??

What? Who?

[KCbroncos]

Some guy named Bif Wellington.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/b/bif-wellington.html

[theAPAOps5]

The police in Atlanta are saying the public is going to view the cause of death as very bizarre when they release the findings following the autopsys.

[freak6]

The police in Atlanta are saying the public is going to view the cause of death as very bizarre when they release the findings following the autopsys.

Not to me.

Cripple Crossface without a doubt. Maybe he was messing around with his son and accidentl=ally killed him.

[Mr. Trout]

if its true what a piece of trash...why can't people just kill themselves.

[Los Broncos]

Not to me.

Cripple Crossface without a doubt. Maybe he was messing around with his son and accidentl=ally killed him.

Crippler crossface? Are you some kind of idiot man.

[theAPAOps5]

Seriously, the thought did cross my mind that he might be wrestling with his son and accidentially killed him and then he just freaked out. But that wouldn't be as bizarre as they are making it out to be.

[theAPAOps5]

And it turns out he is just a plain old piece of caca:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286737,00.html

He strangled his wife, smothered his son, then hung himself.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. — Professional wrestler Chris Benoit (javascript:siteSearch('Chris Benoit');) killed his wife and 7-year-old son before he hanged himself, investigators said Tuesday.
A law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press that Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room.
Earlier, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (javascript:siteSearch('Atlanta Journal-Constitution');) that the details of the deaths are going to prove a little bizarre" when released to the public. Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia

[That One Guy]

The weapons were a plastic bag that his wife suffocated his son with, a telephone cord that Chris Benoit strangled his wife with when he found out about his son, and a rope that he hung himself with.

This guy said this a while ago. Now that the actual methods of death are being revealed and it seems accurate, is there really anything to this? Or is this guy just a lucky guesser?

[c_lazy_r]

Somebody else already said it. Why do these people have to kill the rest of their family/spouse instead of just offing themselves? F'd up...

[Master___Pain]

First off, Sassy my apologies. You seem to be right about what happened. Now that the facts appear to be coming out this is as disgusting as anyone could have imagined.

The WWE has egg all over their face for fawning over Chris Benoit for 3 hours last night. Well done, you paid homage to a double murderer.

[Crushaholic]

Benoit is looking more and more like a scumbag...:thumbsdow

[footstepsfrom#27]

Now we can go with the roid rage theory...

[Beej]

Now we can go with the roid rage theory...

I dunno. Given the time between deaths, could this really be roid rage?

[alkemical]

Now we can go with the roid rage theory...

Disagree.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I dunno. Given the time between deaths, could this really be roid rage?
Why not? He could have gone postal for the 1st murder, sat around for a while contemplating his predicament and decided after that to just go all the way.

He's a wrestler...is it unlikely he was on the juice? Something sure caused a brain meltdown.

[That One Guy]

Why not? He could have gone postal for the 1st murder, sat around for a while contemplating his predicament and decided after that to just go all the way.

He's a wrestler...is it unlikely he was on the juice? Something sure caused a brain meltdown.

We don't know the details yet. It's conceivable that the wife killed the boy like the other fella' said, he reacted and strangled her then sat around mourning for a day before finally deciding that if his family was gone then he didn't wanna live either. Suffocation just doesn't seem like a 'rage' type murder to me. Strangling yes... but how often does someone make you angry and you say "If I could, I'd hold a pillow over your face!!"... something just isn't adding up yet.

[TexanBob]

I dunno. Given the time between deaths, could this really be roid rage?

Yes. If the first death was 'roid related (and who can say now with all the witnesses dead), the second death may have been to spare the son the horror of learning his mother had died (not logical, I know, but many killers have killed children to "spare them" either horror or humiliation) and then finally committing suicide realizing his own life is now ruined and fearing a future in prison.

There is also links to depression and paranoia associated with steroid abuse which could fuel the sort of situation that may have resulted in this.

None of this exonerates the man. I've gone through depression and know strongly the feeling of wanting to end it all but I've never thought of taking anyone else out with me. But, of course, depressed people often do not think clearly.

[TheDave]

Stop with the "roid rage" crap... Steroid use does not turn a normal guy into a homicidal maniac. The guy is a piece of **** who chose to murder his family.

[BroncoInferno]

Given that the police are saying that the public will find the details "bizarre", I'm thinking that the proposal made earlier--that Benoit's wife killed the son, then Benoit killed his wife in anger and hung himself--may be the more likely scenario. As awful as a double murder-suicide is, I don't think it would be described as "bizarre" in the sense that it is all something we've heard about happening before.

[Beej]

Yes. If the first death was 'roid related (and who can say now with all the witnesses dead), the second death may have been to spare the son the horror of learning his mother had died (not logical, I know, but many killers have killed children to "spare them" either horror or humiliation) and then finally committing suicide realizing his own life is now ruined and fearing a future in prison.

There is also links to depression and paranoia associated with steroid abuse which could fuel the sort of situation that may have resulted in this.

None of this exonerates the man. I've gone through depression and know strongly the feeling of wanting to end it all but I've never thought of taking anyone else out with me. But, of course, depressed people often do not think clearly.

I'll admit I don't know much about steroids, but I was under the impression that the "roid rage" was a short term effect, possibly resulting from a moderate to high dose of steroids. I can understand that rage could have played a part in the first murder (if he was indeed taking steroids) and the other may have been from depression or something else.

[alkemical]

Why not? He could have gone postal for the 1st murder, sat around for a while contemplating his predicament and decided after that to just go all the way.

He's a wrestler...is it unlikely he was on the juice? Something sure caused a brain meltdown.

Could have been a preexisting "condition"

[Don Flamenco]

This guy said this a while ago. Now that the actual methods of death are being revealed and it seems accurate, is there really anything to this? Or is this guy just a lucky guesser?


Nah, I read it off a different board

[TheDave]

Could have been a preexisting "condition"

What ever it was i'll gaurantee too much testosterone in the blood didn't make him murder his family... If that was the case teenagers would be murdering each other left and right.

[c_lazy_r]

Why not? He could have gone postal for the 1st murder, sat around for a while contemplating his predicament and decided after that to just go all the way.

He's a wrestler...is it unlikely he was on the juice? Something sure caused a brain meltdown.

No more of a meltdown than all of the other wackos that do this type of thing.

Think ol' Pacman is juiced up? Or the cop who killed the wife in Ohio?

I don't think some foreign substance needs to be involved for someone to do something f'd up.

[c_lazy_r]

Stop with the "roid rage" crap... Steroid use does not turn a normal guy into a homicidal maniac. The guy is a piece of **** who chose to murder his family.

My thinking exactly.

[Popps]

Isn't it amazing how these "manly" types involved in some of these sports turn out to be the biggest cowards of all. Guess he was like a lot of NFL players.... when it comes to being a real man and taking care of your family, he failed miserably.

Piece of ****.

[That One Guy]

Nah, I read it off a different board

Well the fact that it was out there long before the news articles lends it a bit of credibility to me. And here I thought you were the next Ms Cleo...

[That One Guy]

Given that the police are saying that the public will find the details "bizarre", I'm thinking that the proposal made earlier--that Benoit's wife killed the son, then Benoit killed his wife in anger and hung himself--may be the more likely scenario. As awful as a double murder-suicide is, I don't think it would be described as "bizarre" in the sense that it is all something we've heard about happening before.

That's a very good point as well. Wasn't there a wife and kid murdered within the last week? That doesn't seem too bizarre.

I just don't think it all adds up as Benoit murdering the family, waiting a day or two, then offing himself. In my experience, a raging person often feels bad after they come down but still feel a sense of justification. This leads to things like attempting to cover up the murder or fleeing, something like that. For him to kill both of them would almost have to be a preplanned thing.. I wouldn't think he'd just go nuts and kill them both in a single rage. I've never known anyone who could lose a temper long enough to not only strangle your wife but to also suffocate your son. I guess it could be a steroid thing, I don't know that much about em, but that'd have to be a temper tantrum never seen before. Now, if it weren't a preplanned thing then that would explain why he sat around with their bodies in the house for a day or two. He didn't plan it out, he didn't know what to do next. If it were preplanned he'd have had a plan on what he himself would do following the killings. It wouldn't be to sit around a while and finally hang yourself before the cops even knew anything was wrong. It just doesn't add up to me and I'd like to think a man can't just kill his wife and son in a fit.

[Popps]

Btw... there's a ton of evidence linking steroid use to violence and aggression. I can't imagine there would be any debate on that subject, at this stage.
Conversely, it doesn't obviously excuse what this POS did. It just means that MAYBE if this **** didn't need to look all big and muscly for his flock of boy-fans, maybe he would have been less likely to act this out.

[That One Guy]

Btw... there's a ton of evidence linking steroid use to violence and aggression. I can't imagine there would be any debate on that subject, at this stage.
Conversely, it doesn't obviously excuse what this POS did. It just means that MAYBE if this **** didn't need to look all big and muscly for his flock of boy-fans, maybe he would have been less likely to act this out.

A few here have mentioned that we don't really know the meaning of "roid rage" or it's real effects. The thing that makes me question that theory though is just the amount of time it would take for you to suffocate one person and strangle another. That takes more than just have agressive tendencies. All of this is just speculation, eventually it'll be leaked what was on those text messages he sent and who actually killed who. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out.

[JimmyFocus]

HIGHLIGHTS OF PRESS CONFERENCE ON BENOIT TRAGEDY
<TABLE width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 3:34:24 PM </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></SPAN></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Authorities conducted a press conference this afternoon regarding the deaths of Chris, Nancy, and Daniel Benoit. Here are highlights from the press conference:
Authorities have ruled the deaths were a result of a murder suicide.
Test results indicate that Chris Benoit killed his wife Nancy "sometime on Friday" and his son Daniel "sometime on Saturday". Test results show that Chris Benoit killed himself sometime "later on Saturday".
A bible was found placed next to the bodies of Nancy and Daniel.
Nancy was found in a family room upstairs. Daniel was found in his bed.
Chris was found hanging in the weight room in the basement.
Authorities found "a lot" of prescription drugs at the scene, including anabolic steroids.
Authorities are aware of only one prior arrest for Chris Benoit, for DUI.
Scott Ballard, the District Attorney handling the case, said he termed the killings "bizarre" because of the timing of the deaths and that he remained in the house for some period of time after killing Nancy and Daniel.
Ballard said, "I'm baffled why anybody would kill a 7 year old baby.
Nancy was bound on her feet and wrists and wrapped in a towel.
Text messages received by friends were received several hours after they were sent, perhaps explaining reports that messages were sent during the day on Sunday.

from 1wrestling.com

[TheDave]

Btw... there's a ton of evidence linking steroid use to violence and aggression. I can't imagine there would be any debate on that subject, at this stage.
Conversely, it doesn't obviously excuse what this POS did. It just means that MAYBE if this **** didn't need to look all big and muscly for his flock of boy-fans, maybe he would have been less likely to act this out.

Agression yes... violence no. Seriously popps, the amount of "juice" this guy was doing is probably similiar to the amount of testosterone flowing in a teenagers blood stream. Can the make your fuse shorter... sure. Do they turn a normal guy into a murderer... no.

Roid Rage... got real popular in the media in the 80's and even gained some steam in the courts as an excuse for bad behavior. Don't believe it.

This guy was a class A POS... with or with out the juice

[vancejohnson82]

Dave,

good post....people, and the courts, were hiding behind the cloak of this alleged "roid rage" for years

[Hogan11]

I dunno if I buy the steroid stuff....I still say some feeling of hopelessness made the guy snap. Whether that hopelessness came from outside the family or inside of it hardly matters considering the end result. When a person is devoid of hope, that's when things like this happen.

[Popps]

Agression yes... violence no.

Do some research, man. I agree with you in principle, that the roids are not an excuse. But, one study dealt directly with violence in domestic relationships where the subjects (steroid users) admitted a much higher incident of aggression, fights and even violence.

[Popps]

Dave,

good post....people, and the courts, were hiding behind the cloak of this alleged "roid rage" for years

Again, you have to be able to make a clear distinction between...

-Using the steroids as an EXCUSE or the REASON he did this

and

-Understanding that (like alcohol contributes in domestic violence situations)... the long-term abuse of the drugs may have made this more likely.

One study (given, in hamsters) showed that the negative effects lasted long after the user even stopped taking the steroids.

[Crushaholic]

Nancy was bound on her feet and wrists and wrapped in a towel.

This doesn't appear to be behavior consistent with roid rage or doing something rash at the spur of the moment. He could have easily overpowered her, but he took the time to tie her up, first. Who knows how long she was bound before she was murdered. My opinion of Chris Benoit has just gone down the Raider...:flush:

[That One Guy]

Well... so much for the theory that he wasn't just totally f'd in the head. A real tragedy...

[TheDave]

Do some research, man. I agree with you in principle, that the roids are not an excuse. But, one study dealt directly with violence in domestic relationships where the subjects (steroid users) admitted a much higher incident of aggression, fights and even violence.

Popps I've been subjected to more research on this subject than the entire board combined...

Will a person that is already a wife beater get worse with the use/abuse of ANY drug... yes

Will a non violent person suddenly start beating his wife because he is drunk or high or juiced up... NO

It does not not change your personality. Could it be a factor.. sure it could. So could a million other things...

[That One Guy]

This doesn't appear to be behavior consistent with roid rage or doing something rash at the spur of the moment. He could have easily overpowered her, but he took the time to tie her up, first. Who knows how long she was bound before she was murdered. My opinion of Chris Benoit has just gone down the Raider...:flush:

That's something that maybe other folks can shed some light on. I take 'roid rage' to mean things like when Romanowski was destroying his own teammates in anger. Maybe if he'd beat the girl up, that's possible "rage" but this was a succession of events.

[JimmyFocus]

This doesn't appear to be behavior consistent with roid rage or doing something rash at the spur of the moment. He could have easily overpowered her, but he took the time to tie her up, first. Who knows how long she was bound before she was murdered. My opinion of Chris Benoit has just gone down the Raider...:flush:

could it be that he wrapped her up in a towell and tied her feet to try and get rid of the body after he killed her... who knows

[Sassy]

First off, Sassy my apologies. You seem to be right about what happened. Now that the facts appear to be coming out this is as disgusting as anyone could have imagined.

The WWE has egg all over their face for fawning over Chris Benoit for 3 hours last night. Well done, you paid homage to a double murderer.

I wasn't going for being "right"...just that it sounded like it could have happened that way (from what had already been reported)...only my opinion at the time was all and I wondered why I was getting "yelled" at!

We're good... :sunshine:

[smalltowngrll]

So sad! I never really followed WWE too closely, but it was good for some entertainment value at different times in my life.

I hate hearing about things such as this. Death/murder/suicide is just a solution to a problem that probably could have been worked through! It's the sissy way out. IMO

[vancejohnson82]

but just like alcohol, there has to be an underlying mental problem or human stain on the psyche for him to do something like this

honestly, from what i hear he was a good guy or whatever, but it sounds to me like he was just your typical a$$hole coward who cut his son's and wife's life short way too early

depression/alcohol/steroids/drugs/problems....swallow them up or take yourself out.....his son should be worrying about where he was going to ride his bike today, not paying the price for his father's problems and mistakes

[alkemical]

Popps I've been subjected to more research on this subject than the entire board combined...

Will a person that is already a wife beater get worse with the use/abuse of ANY drug... yes

Will a non violent person suddenly start beating his wife because he is drunk or high or juiced up... NO

It does not not change your personality. Could it be a factor.. sure it could. So could a million other things...


Ehhh - agree to disagree?

I've seen people on the streets that changed due to meth & heroine

[TheDave]

Ehhh - agree to disagree?

I've seen people on the streets that changed due to meth & heroine

The "it" i was referring to are "steroids"

I honestly have no idea about meth and/or heroine

[alkemical]

The "it" i was referring to are "steroids"

I honestly have no idea about meth and/or heroine

Ah, ok - carry on

[BMF Bronco]

What a piece of ****!

[Popps]

who actually killed who. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out.

Benoit Strangled Wife, Smothered Son
By GREG BLUESTEIN
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 26, 2007; 5:00 PM


FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with the pulley of a weight machine, authorities said Tuesday.

Investigators found prescription anabolic steroids in the house and want to know whether the muscle man nicknamed "The Canadian Crippler" was unhinged by the bodybuilding drugs, which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as "roid rage."

[Northman]

What a tragedy all around.

[Popps]

Nevertheless, Nancy Benoit filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple's three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging "cruel treatment."

She later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that the 5-foot-10, 220-pound Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.

Starting to see a pattern?

[Northman]

Nevertheless, Nancy Benoit filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple's three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging "cruel treatment."

She later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that the 5-foot-10, 220-pound Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.

Starting to see a pattern?



Still doesnt really explain the kid though especially a day later. Just doesnt make a lot of sense there to me.

[DomCasual]

Still doesnt really explain the kid though especially a day later. Just doesnt make a lot of sense there to me.

I think that part is explained by his being crazier than a ****house rat.

Seriously, what sane parent could do something like that?

[Popps]

Still doesnt really explain the kid though especially a day later. Just doesnt make a lot of sense there to me.

What part about the kid? I'm confused. He was suffocated.

By the way.... the DA just said the kid had needle-marks in his arms and they suspect he'd been taking (or given) growth hormone.

He was 7 years old.

[DomCasual]

What part about the kid? I'm confused. He was suffocated.

By the way.... the DA just said the kid had needle-marks in his arms and they suspect he'd been taking (or given) growth hormone.

He was 7 years old.

Dear Lord.

[skpac1001]

Btw... there's a ton of evidence linking steroid use to violence and aggression. I can't imagine there would be any debate on that subject, at this stage.
Conversely, it doesn't obviously excuse what this POS did. It just means that MAYBE if this **** didn't need to look all big and muscly for his flock of boy-fans, maybe he would have been less likely to act this out.

There may be, but I bet there are problems with cause and effect. After all, the average steriod user is likely to be more prone to violence and aggression anyways, steriods or not. From what I have heard from actual users, Roid Rage is more of a feeling of invincability, meaning people who are already prone to violence or temper tantrums may be more likely to act out since they feel bulletproof but healthy people do not become violent from it.

[TheDave]

What part about the kid? I'm confused. He was suffocated.

By the way.... the DA just said the kid had needle-marks in his arms and they suspect he'd been taking (or given) growth hormone.

He was 7 years old.

HGH is usually injected into the fat in the stomach... then again why would i be looking for correct injection techniques in this mess of ****.

[Popps]

HGH is usually injected into the fat in the stomach... then again why would i be looking for correct injection techniques in this mess of ****.

Yea, don't quote me on the arm part... I just heard the report on TV. I could have gotten that part wrong, but I'm pretty sure he said arms.

Someone on TV later speculated that it could have been used to treat stunted growth. (i.e. legitimate) So, I don't know... but given the circumstance, I'd be less likely to think this was on the up and up.

[Popps]

Roid Rage is more of a feeling of invincability, meaning people who are already prone to violence or temper tantrums may be more likely to act out since they feel bulletproof

Could be. They just interviewed a doctor that said it was likely contributing factors, roids... alcohol... and cumulative damage from both.

Dude had a history of being a ****-up, so this wasn't an isolated incident.

[Northman]

What part about the kid? I'm confused. He was suffocated.

By the way.... the DA just said the kid had needle-marks in his arms and they suspect he'd been taking (or given) growth hormone.

He was 7 years old.

Sorry, i didnt clarify myself. I can understand him going into a rage with his wife and then killing her. But to go and kill the kid a day later just doesnt make a lot of sense to me. I just think there is more to this story is all.

[Popps]

Sorry, i didnt clarify myself. I can understand him going into a rage with his wife and then killing her. But to go and kill the kid a day later just doesnt make a lot of sense to me. I just think there is more to this story is all.

You're probably right.

[BMF Bronco]

there was some ass hat here in Montucky who just did that, his ex-wife called the cops as he wouldn't answer the phone nor the door so the cops went into the dude's house and found the two girls, 5 and 6, drowned in the bath tub and him with a bullet hole through his head. ****ing piece of ****!

[Popps]

there was some ass hat here in Montucky who just did that, his ex-wife called the cops as he wouldn't answer the phone nor the door so the cops went into the dude's house and found the two girls, 5 and 6, drowned in the bath tub and him with a bullet hole through his head. ****ing piece of ****!

It's hard enough to comprehend something like this before you have kids... much less after.

I'd destroy anything in my kid's path. I can't imagine what kind of subhuman you'd have to be to think any differently.

[Sassy]

Sorry, i didnt clarify myself. I can understand him going into a rage with his wife and then killing her. But to go and kill the kid a day later just doesnt make a lot of sense to me. I just think there is more to this story is all.

Maybe the boy saw his dad kill his mom...and then the he decided to take care of him...anyway...it's sick and sad.

[TDmvp]

i wonder if Vince wishes he would of held of on the tribute now ... i kinda thought while watching it , maybe vince rushed this out to make sure the guy gets 1 good memorial in case this ends up being ugly "at this point 8 -9 oclcock lastnight nothing was really public .and we was hoping for no drama with something like CM poisoning or something .. but looking back IF i was some of the WWE wrestlers who was on the that lastnight id almost want to retrack my statements made during that show .... Cuz i really liked chris the guy not really that big into wrestling , but from what you had heard he was a good guy and from the stories the guys told lastnight made him out to be great and the word Respect was used over an over ...
id want to retrack my respect for him now if i was those guys ... cuz i have 0 for this guy if the stories we are hearing about this weekend are true ...

[BMF Bronco]

It's hard enough to comprehend something like this before you have kids... much less after.

I'd destroy anything in my kid's path. I can't imagine what kind of subhuman you'd have to be to think any differently.

Right there with you brother. The thing is, my Hannah is 7 right now, so it really hits close.

[Maximus]

What ever it was i'll gaurantee too much testosterone in the blood didn't make him murder his family... If that was the case teenagers would be murdering each other left and right.

Ahem.... Teenagers are killing each other left and right... Very unusual flaw in your logic Dave!!!!

[TheDave]

Ahem.... Teenagers are killing each other left and right... Very unusual flaw in your logic Dave!!!!

What ever you say boss...

[Maximus]

I think Benoit killed his wife after finding that she killed his only son. He was tied up in a bitter divorce and the wife wanted the kid... I will speculate that the kid sided with Benoit and she smothered him. Benoit wakes up and finds the son dead and goes into a rage and kills the wife. Pretty far fetched... It's more likely that he went into a BiPolar rage while on Steroids ala Barrett Robbins and offed everyone!

[ward63]

Chris seemed like a good man on the outside, but some people are like that. I'm a nice guy, but I hold things in to myself a lot and let it out when I know I need to. I'm not saying he just snapped, had drugs(roids or w/e), but he sadly took the matters into his hands in the wrong way. Some people just don't know what to do with themselves and just don't care about the others around him. Taking drugs and roids are harmful to yourself, but you should NEVER, EVER take them out on others. I don't know if you guys watch WWE, but another wrestler that was actually close to Beniot I believe, named Eddie Guerrero died b/c of drugs about a year or two. I'm not saying that's ok, but it was his choice and even though other people wished they could have done something to stop him, the good thing is, he didn't take other people out with him.

Anyways, it's just a very sad thing that something like this happend, when it really didn't have to. It's something that this country needs to address w/some people. Everybody has problems and one way or another, need to find a way to solve them. It's just my hope that people find a way to solve them the right way!

[ward63]

I think Benoit killed his wife after finding that she killed his only son. He was tied up in a bitter divorce and the wife wanted the kid... I will speculate that the kid sided with Benoit and she smothered him. Benoit wakes up and finds the son dead and goes into a rage and kills the wife. Pretty far fetched... It's more likely that he went into a BiPolar rage while on Steroids ala Barrett Robbins and offed everyone!

I thought that too Maximus, but I really don't know. We just have to wait and find out. The problem w/that theory is (not being sexist, just the way society thinks) that it'll be hard for them to prove that it was Chris that killed the son and not her. People are going to think that a mother can't do something like that.

[Cool Breeze]

For losers like this I say you only need one bullet. If you want to end it fine... No need for anyone else to suffer.

[clean]

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4421/woman160gr6.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=woman160gr6.jpg) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7350/woman121oe8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4158/woman234fy4.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=woman234fy4.jpg)

Photos came from the following site:

http://rfis1.tripod.com/NancySullivan/index.html



Looking back on the career of "Woman"
Exquisite looks got Nancy Daus into wrestling

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2007/06/25/4290333.html

[Maximus]

What ever you say boss...

LOL... it was a terrible lapse coming from you (Non Sequitur)

[Popps]

I thought that too Maximus, but I really don't know. We just have to wait and find out. The problem w/that theory is (not being sexist, just the way society thinks) that it'll be hard for them to prove that it was Chris that killed the son and not her. People are going to think that a mother can't do something like that.

Yea, and also the little detail that there's absolutely no evidence to support that fairy-tale.... and there's a gob of evidence (circumstantial and apparently otherwise) that supports the notion that he killed them all.

[Northman]

I think Benoit killed his wife after finding that she killed his only son. He was tied up in a bitter divorce and the wife wanted the kid... I will speculate that the kid sided with Benoit and she smothered him. Benoit wakes up and finds the son dead and goes into a rage and kills the wife. Pretty far fetched... It's more likely that he went into a BiPolar rage while on Steroids ala Barrett Robbins and offed everyone!



Actually, i was thinking this way too until it was discovered the boy was killed at a later time.

[Maximus]

I'd be willing to bet that Benoit was Bi-Polar and went into a steroid intensified manic rage!

[Maximus]

Actually, i was thinking this way too until it was discovered the boy was killed at a later time.

So the son was killed after the Wife?

[Northman]

i wonder if Vince wishes he would of held of on the tribute now ... i kinda thought while watching it , maybe vince rushed this out to make sure the guy gets 1 good memorial in case this ends up being ugly "at this point 8 -9 oclcock lastnight nothing was really public .and we was hoping for no drama with something like CM poisoning or something .. but looking back IF i was some of the WWE wrestlers who was on the that lastnight id almost want to retrack my statements made during that show .... Cuz i really liked chris the guy not really that big into wrestling , but from what you had heard he was a good guy and from the stories the guys told lastnight made him out to be great and the word Respect was used over an over ...
id want to retrack my respect for him now if i was those guys ... cuz i have 0 for this guy if the stories we are hearing about this weekend are true ...




I think it had more to do with timing. They didnt find out until early Monday that Benoit and the family was dead. As your probably aware of they do their Raw thing the same day so im assuming that Vince figured that they needed to do something. If they hadnt, he probably would have gotten a ****load of emails and calls saying he was disrespecting a legend in the sport. I guess it was more of a catch 22 at that point. And i disagree with your stance that they need to retract on the tribute. They were paying tribute to a athlete in their sport ( if you want to call it that ). There were a couple of wrestlers saying he was a great family man. Who am i to argue? I dont know the circumstances of why he did what he did. And i didnt know him well enough to make that judgement on him. The guy could of easily been the perfect husband and then just flipped. Who knows?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

So the son was killed after the Wife?ESPN said like the next day.

[gunns]

The "it" i was referring to are "steroids"

I honestly have no idea about meth and/or heroine

I don't know about meth but a person on heroin is not violent. The drug becomes their sole reason for living and generally will connive, manipulate anyone to get what they need. They aren't looking to kill anyone but I could see a rare situation where they would go that far to get what they need. With meth they can become quite aggressive.

[Northman]

So the son was killed after the Wife?

Thats what the police are eluding too. According to their report Chris strangled the mother and then the following day took his son's life and then his own. Initially, i was thinking like you that maybe the mother killed the boy and then Chris killed her out of anger.

[Los Broncos]

Its all very confusing here. I cant believe he would do something like this. What drives a man to kill his family and then him self.

[footstepsfrom#27]

ESPN Radio reported that he was apparently shooting his kid up with Roids...guess he wanted his 7 year old to pump up and get bigger.

What a douche bag.

[Los Broncos]

ESPN Radio reported that he was apparently shooting his kid up with Roids...guess he wanted his 7 year old to pump up and get bigger.

What a douche bag.

Thats so wrong, I use to support Chris when i really liked wrestling and whatever.

Thats all out the window now, what a jerk.

[ward63]

I read that he had 2 other children prior to this one. I wonder what's going through their minds and the ex's too.

[Garcia Bronco]

ESPN Radio reported that he was apparently shooting his kid up with Roids...guess he wanted his 7 year old to pump up and get bigger.

What a douche bag.

if that's true...WOW...but I doubt ESPiN at every turn...so I just can't believe it.

[MechanicalBull]

For those wondering about the tribute show last night I believe like Anubis said at the time they probably had no idea what totally went on.

Tvweek.com is reporting that WWE owner Vince McMahon will apologize on tonight’s ECW telecast for airing a tribute show to Chris Benoit on Monday Night Raw in light of the details about the murder/suicide that have subsequently surfaced. The report also said that McMahon would address media reports attempting to link Benoit’s actions to steroid use.

[Popps]

For those wondering about the tribute show last night I believe like Anubis said at the time they probably had no idea what totally went on.

Was wondering about that. They should have waited, regardless. It was too soon, given the circumstances. Just a bad call on their part.

[gunns]

For the wrestling fans here. Wrestlers that have died before the age of 65 in order of age.

Famous Wrestlers That Have Died Since 1985 Before the Age of 65
Chris Von Erich - 21
Mike Von Erich - 23
Louie Spiccoli - 27
Art Barr - 28
Gino Hernandez - 29
Jay Youngblood - 30
Rick McGraw - 30
Joey Marella - 30
Ed Gatner - 31
Buzz Sawyer - 32
Crash Holly - 32
Kerry Von Erich - 33
D.J. Peterson - 33
Eddie Gilbert - 33
The Renegade - 33
Owen Hart - 33
Chris Candido - 33
Adrian Adonis - 34
Gary Albright - 34
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34
Yokozuna - 34
Big Dickkk Dudley - 34
Brian Pillman - 35
Marianna Komlos - 35
Pitbull #2 - 36
The Wall/Malice - 36
Leroy Brown - 38
Mark Curtis - 38
Eddie Guerrero- 38
Davey Boy Smith - 39
Johnny Grunge - 39
Vivian Vachon - 40
Jeep Swenson - 40
Brady Boone - 40
Terry Gordy - 40
Bertha Faye - 40
Billy Joe Travis - 40
Chris Benoit - 40
Larry Cameron - 41
Rick Rude - 41
Randy Anderson - 41
Bruiser Brody - 42
Miss Elizabeth - 42
Big Boss Man - 42
Earthquake - 42
Mike Awesome - 42
Ray Candy - 43
Nancy Benoit (Woman) - 43
Dino Bravo - 44
Curt Hennig - 44
Scott "Bam Bam" Bigelow- 45
Jerry Blackwell - 45
Junkyard Dog - 45
Hercules - 45
Andre "The Giant" Rusimoff- 46
Big John Studd - 46
Chris Adams - 46
Mike Davis - 46
Hawk - 46
Dick Murdoch - 49
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49
Rocco Rock - 49
"Sensational" Sherri Martel- 49
Moondog Spot - 51
Ken Timbs - 53
Uncle Elmer - 54
Pez Whatley - 54
Eddie Graham - 55
Tarzan Tyler - 55
Haystacks Calhoun- 55
Giant Haystacks - 55
The Spoiler - 56
Kurt Von Hess - 56
Moondog King - 56
Gene Anderson - 58
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58
Bulldog Brown - 58
Tony Parisi - 58
Rufus R. Jones - 60
Ray Stevens - 60
Stan Stasiak - 60
Terry Garvin - 60
Boris Malenko - 61
Little Beaver - 61
Sapphire - 61
Shohei Baba - 61
Dick the Bruiser - 62
Wilbur Snyder - 62
George Cannon - 62
Karl Krupp - 62
Dale Lewis - 62
Gorilla Monsoon - 62
Hiro Matsuda - 62
Bad News Brown - 63
Bulldog Brower - 63
Wahoo McDaniel - 63

[theAPAOps5]

Man I hadn't realized that Earthquake, Yokozuna, and Rick Rude had died.

[Sassy]

WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting
Written: June 26, 2007

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

[Los Broncos]

And i had no idea Curt Henning died.

[theAPAOps5]

And what WWE should have said:

We are truly saddened by the events and details pertaining to the Benoit situation. We regret any pain caused by airing our 3 hour tribute to this disgusting **** and will never acknowledge his existence again.

Also we would like to take the chance to denounce any steroid use by our wrestlers. Steroid abuse is illegal and may be potentially harmful if abused. We are hereby announcing that WWE will become a clean sport/event and all wrestlers from here on out will be tested.

[Los Broncos]

And what WWE should have said:

We are truly saddened by the events and details pertaining to the Benoit situation. We regret any pain caused by airing our 3 hour tribute to this disgusting **** and will never acknowledge his exsistence again.

Also we would like to take the chance to denounce any steroid use by our wrestlers. Steroids are illegal and have many potential harms if abused. We are hereby announcing that WWE will become a clean sport/event and all wrestlers from here on out will be tested.

I agree

[theAPAOps5]

I also understand Steroids aren't illegal and they are used for many purposes when prescribed. Sounds like Benoit had them prescribed but obviously for reasons not pertaining to a preexisting condition.

[Sassy]

Very strange!

WWE/Benoit timeline
Written: June 26, 2007On Saturday, June 23, Chris Benoit was slated to appear at a WWE live event in Beaumont, Texas. That afternoon, Benoit contacted WWE to inform them that his wife and child were ill, and that he would not be able to attend the show.

WWE executives rebooked Benoit’s flight for the following morning, allowing Benoit to miss the Beaumont event making alternate arrangements for him to attend the pay-per-view event in Houston on Sunday.

WWE employees attempted to confirm with Benoit his travel plans but were unable to contact him.

Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:



Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.) - Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.) - Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”

Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"

Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”



Throughout the day on Sunday, WWE made numerous attempts to contact Benoit both at home and at local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11 p.m., WWE officials were unable to establish contact with Chris Benoit.

At 12:30 p.m. on Monday, June 25, WWE officials were notified of the text messages sent to the co-workers the previous day. By 12:45 p.m., WWE had contacted Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office requesting they check on the Benoit family.

Fayetteville County Sheriff's office made contact with WWE at approximately 4 p.m. advising that they had entered the house of Chris Benoit and found three deceased bodies – an adult male, adult female and a male child. WWE was told that Benoit’s home was now considered a major crime scene.

The decision to cancel the live event scheduled in Corpus Christi that night was made between 4 and 5 p.m. In keeping with company policy, and with limited knowledge regarding facts of the case, WWE choose to air a memorial dedicated to the career of Chris Benoit. As facts emerged surrounding the case, all tributes to Chris Benoit were removed both on-air and on WWE.com.

[DomCasual]

Very strange!

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chrisbenoittimeline

Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:

Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”

Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"

Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

So, if I'm not mistaken, he's basically saying that his physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane; Fayetteville, Georgia; 30215

[Popps]

WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting
Written: June 26, 2007

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

Methinks thou protesteth too much.

Good lord.

[maher_tyler]

If he didn't have it planned then why would he call in advance and tell WWE he wont be in Beaumont for the show...the text messages from Nancy almost sound like a call for help..who knows..were they to different co-works or was the same text sent to the same people everytime?? BUT if she was in trouble why wouldn't she just come out and say it?!?!

[maher_tyler]

And i had no idea Curt Henning died.

Me neither...i didn't know Eddie Guerero died either till reading this thread!! I quit following wrestling after like 8th grade...back when WCW have the NWO and NWO: Wolfpack...

[Los Broncos]

Me neither...i didn't know Eddie Guerero died either till reading this thread!! I quit following wrestling after like 8th grade...back when WCW have the NWO and NWO: Wolfpack...

I loved the NWO back then. To many have died, guess the industry takes a lot out of them.

[footstepsfrom#27]

If he didn't have it planned then why would he call in advance and tell WWE he wont be in Beaumont for the show...the text messages from Nancy almost sound like a call for help..who knows..were they to different co-works or was the same text sent to the same people everytime?? BUT if she was in trouble why wouldn't she just come out and say it?!?!
Because he was obviously the one sending the text from her phone. She was either already dead or he was in the progress of planning it.

[Popps]

****ing creepy. That poor kid. Just can't get the image out of my mind. People die all the time. I suppose high profile stories like this just put it too far up in our faces to suppress.

That poor woman had the right idea. (Getting out of there.) She just didn't follow through on it.

[ward63]

It's not an excuse, but Beniot may have believed that he was washed up and could have contributed b/c he was switched shows in wresting's "draft" b/c the one show executive(i forget which one) said he was no longer a prime time wrestler.

[MechanicalBull]

This story gets weirder and weirder as it unfolds. The second quote might be why his son had needle marks on him.


Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, said the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney’s Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com.


A woman tells News 1130 in Vancouver, B.C. that Chris Benoit's son Daniel had a condition called Fragile X syndrome. Wikipedia describes the symptoms:

Aside from intellectual disability (mental retardation), prominent characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicals in men (macroorchidism), and low muscle tone. Behavioral characteristics may include stereotypic movements (e.g., hand-flapping) and atypical social development, particularly shyness and limited eye contact. Some individuals with the fragile X syndrome also meet the diagnostic criteria for autism. While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.

The woman interviewed for the News 1130 story says her family was in contact with the Benoits, but they didn't want to go public with the disease and chose to keep things low profile. She added that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. She said, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy --they don't tell you."

[uk bronco]

Why isn't congress doing an investigation into the deaths of wrestlers. I'm not a huge WWE fan but watch it from time to time one of my buddy's loves wrestling and is always telling me about yet another wrestler who's died. Ok in the benoit case the drugs dont seem to be the direct cause of deaths as in guererro, buddy holly, bam bam bigalow and hundreds of other deaths. Congress investigated roids in baseball but the sheer number and pattern of deaths by pro wrestlers needs looking at.

[frerottenextelway]

WWE actually has a better drug testing policy than MLB, and probably on par with the NFL since Eddy died. In fact, former world champ Kurt Angle was fired from the company after failing it twice. According to WWE reports, Benoit passed his last testing in April.

[theAPAOps5]

WWE actually has a better drug testing policy than MLB, and probably on par with the NFL since Eddy died. In fact, former world champ Kurt Angle was fired from the company after failing it twice. According to WWE reports, Benoit passed his last testing in April.

What are they testing for, because it ain't steroids.

[frerottenextelway]

What are they testing for, because it ain't steroids.

Angle was fired for testing positive for steroids.

How many MLBers or NFLers have been fired over it?

[uk bronco]

its not the roids that are as much of a problem its the addiction to painkillers that often does these guys in, destroying their liver and kidneys

[theAPAOps5]

Angle was fired for testing positive for steroids.

How many MLBers or NFLers have been fired over it?

I know ,I was being a smart ass. Obviously there is something wrong with the professional wrestling community. That is an abnormal rate of young death and many directly related to the abuse of steroids.

That being said, I for one am skeptical just how stringent their testing is. Especially when just after a popular wrestler was found dead after killing his family and numerous steroids were found inside the house they rush to issue a press release that pretty much reads steroids are not to blame. Its the last thing they should be even trying to defend or even bring up yet they spent that much time on it? Come on, that is some damage control right there and its because roids have been rampant in their sport.

[alkemical]

Angle got fired? Is he back, or is he gone for good?

[TheDave]

its not the roids that are as much of a problem its the addiction to painkillers that often does these guys in, destroying their liver and kidneys

100% correct...

[Atlas]

I just heard on ESPN radio that he was giving steroids to his 7 year old son becaus ehe felt he was too small.

[frerottenextelway]

Angle got fired? Is he back, or is he gone for good?

Gone for good from WWE. You can find him in TNA if you want. He was the biggest one, but besides him the new (since Eddy) "wellness policy" has affected several others too.

[frerottenextelway]

I know ,I was being a smart ass. Obviously there is something wrong with the professional wrestling community. That is an abnormal rate of young death and many directly related to the abuse of steroids.

That being said, I for one am skeptical just how stringent their testing is. Especially when just after a popular wrestler was found dead after killing his family and numerous steroids were found inside the house they rush to issue a press release that pretty much reads steroids are not to blame. Its the last thing they should be even trying to defend or even bring up yet they spent that much time on it? Come on, that is some damage control right there and its because roids have been rampant in their sport.

Steroids were certainly a major issue at one point in time, but in this particular case they look like they appear to have as much to do with it as ping pong balls. It'd be great if people and the media would start remembering what personal responsibility is about, and stop looking for excuses for someone who brutally murdered his family.

[alkemical]

Gone for good from WWE. You can find him in TNA if you want. He was the biggest one, but besides him the new (since Eddy) "wellness policy" has affected several others too.

Wow, i didn't know this.

[Master___Pain]

I just heard on ESPN radio that he was giving steroids to his 7 year old son becaus ehe felt he was too small.

Please understand that I'm not defending Benoit at all. As was mentioned above, there are conditions that some people have that make them small and these diseases can drastically shorten life spans. Steroids and growth hormones are given to them on a regular basis to help the kids grow to maybe 5 feet tall if lucky. My step bother has this condition and was regularly given growth hormones as a child and adolescent. I think the media is running with the idea that Benoit was forcing steroids on the kid to get him muscle bound. On the surface, this sounds horrific, but there may have been a medical reason for administering the steroids/growth hormones. Regardless, Chris Benoit is a slime bag for murdering his family

[footstepsfrom#27]

Whether it was the roids or something else, this was one messed up dude. Shooting your 7 year old up with that crap because he's not big enough? Didn't some teacher in school wonder why the kid had track marks? The only good from this is that he saved the state the cost of a trial.

[theAPAOps5]

Well as was posted earlier its being said his son had Fragile X, which causes deformities, stunted growth, and autism like actions. So being the sick puke that he is he thinks he can change some of that.

Again merely speculation as that hasn't even been confirmed.

[Crushaholic]

It's not an excuse, but Beniot may have believed that he was washed up and could have contributed b/c he was switched shows in wresting's "draft" b/c the one show executive(i forget which one) said he was no longer a prime time wrestler.

He was scheduled to wrestle for the ECW Championship last Sunday. That's not "washed up". In fact, one can surmise he was scheduled to WIN the title, since his replacement DID win the title...

[Popps]

Apparently the boy died of a "choke hold," not suffocation.... at least that's what's now being reported. Good god.

[freak6]

Apparently the boy died of a "choke hold," not suffocation.... at least that's what's now being reported. Good god.

Who called it?

WHO CALLED IT???

Why are we even debating it?

Obviously he put them in the Cripple Crossface!

Fk this dude.

[Smiling Assassin27]

sorry if someone already posted this...

Benoit tragedy not the only oneKevin Hench / FOXSports.com
Posted: 5 hours ago

Professional wrestling is fake.
The carnage it has left in its wake is not.

Add Chris Benoit to the long list of freakishly muscled carnival attractions for whom a pro wrestling career ended tragically.

Toxicology results are pending and Benoit may well have been battling deeper, more primal personal demons when he reportedly killed his wife and son before taking his own life, but only the most naïve observer could ignore the overwhelming evidence that most wrestlers who look like Benoit have undergone countless cycles of chemical enhancement.

The prescription anabolic steroids found at Benoit's home have long been known to contribute to paranoia, depression and the violent outbursts we've come to know as "roid rage." Couple that with the near-compulsory painkillers a wrestler must take to do his job effectively after enduring countless body slams and you have a cocktail for massive, mind-altering mood swings.

The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.

Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.


Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.

Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli — Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.

Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.

Rick "the Renegade" Williams — Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.

Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.

Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.

Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.

Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" — In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.

Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.

Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.

Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.

Eddie Guerrero — After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.

Chris Candido — Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.

Owen Hart — Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
And then there's the story of the Von Erich wrestling family.

Wrestling patriarch Fritz Von Erich, nee Jack Adkisson, had five wrestling sons: Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike and Chris.

David died in a hotel room in Tokyo at the age of 25 in 1984 just as he was embarking on a three-week pro wrestling tour of Japan. The official cause of death was acute enteritis, severe inflammation of the intestines.

Three years later, Mike committed suicide by overdosing on the tranquilizer Placidyl at the age of 23. After David's death, Mike had suffered a series of setbacks including a serious shoulder injury that had left him severely depressed.

Devastated by the deaths of his older brothers and frustrated by his own limitations as a wrestler, the youngest and smallest brother, Chris, shot himself to death at the age of 21 in 1991.

Two years later, Kerry, who had battled a long addiction to painkillers, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 33, leaving eldest brother Kevin as the only survivor of the sport that had defined his family.

And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.

There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.

But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.

And the price for many of them is their very lives

[Crushaholic]

This is why I never look to wrestlers as "heroes". At the end of the day, they are just human beings with their own demons just for the privilege of entertaining millions of fans (for an obscene amount of money). Curt Hennig used to be one of my favorite wrestlers. However, the cocaine overdose death brought a sad ending to his legacy. In the case of Chris Benoit, there will never be an explanation as to why he allegedly killed his wife and kid. However, the mere thought that he did it makes me sick and erases all the good memories I had of watching Benoit wrestle.

[Master___Pain]

Who called it?

WHO CALLED IT???



Fk this dude.


Awesome, what a great thing to be patting yourself on the back for.

[Smiling Assassin27]

I had no idea about the Von Erichs. Man, wrestling sure did ruin that family. I wonder if the fame was worth the price.

Dusty Rhodes, the American Dream, was my guy. No WAY that fat tub o' blubber was on roids...

[TexanBob]

We could put together a lengthy list of NFL linemen who have died prematurely - from the Pittsburgh Steelers alone.

It's all about vanity and competition. I'm always amazed at the lengths some women will go to get an edge in competition with other women. Athletes aren't very different. They see some of the top-paid performers shoot up and are indirectly rewarded for their decision. So they figure the only way to compete with it is to shoot up as well.

The human body wasn't really designed to be this overbloated muscle mass that strains the heart, liver and kidneys. Once you start monkeying with basic human chemistry, you are bound to have some bad outcomes.

[MechanicalBull]

More on the son and fragile x

The latest Associated Press report confirms the report out of Vancouver that Daniel Benoit, Chris and Nancy's seven year old. Excerpt:

Before the killings, the family was struggling with how to care for the child, who suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism, said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment.

"Him and Nancy were clearly struggling about this whole issue, about how to take care of Daniel," said McDevitt. "I don't know what he confronted when he went back into the house," he said. "No one really knows that. We'll have to see. Clearly this issue of the son was a stressor on both of their relationships for some time."

Benoit's doctor also spoke with the AP. Excerpts:

"He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff," said Dr. Phil Astin of metro Atlanta. "He certainly didn't show any signs of any distress or rage or anything."

Astin, who said he was Benoit's longtime friend and physician, said he had prescribed testosterone to Benoit because he suffered from low amounts of the hormone. He said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of the meeting. "I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," said Astin. "He worshipped his child."

[maher_tyler]

This is why I never look to wrestlers as "heroes". At the end of the day, they are just human beings with their own demons just for the privilege of entertaining millions of fans (for an obscene amount of money). Curt Hennig used to be one of my favorite wrestlers. However, the cocaine overdose death brought a sad ending to his legacy. In the case of Chris Benoit, there will never be an explanation as to why he allegedly killed his wife and kid. However, the mere thought that he did it makes me sick and erases all the good memories I had of watching Benoit wrestle.
Hulk Hogan?? Anyways..here's the story they have on ESPN.com...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2918751

[Crushaholic]

Hulk Hogan??

I was actually never a Hulkamaniac growing up. I now admire him for helping to bring pro wrestling into the mainstream, but I found myself cheering for Hulk's opponents (for the most part).

[maher_tyler]

I was actually never a Hulkamaniac growing up. I now admire him for helping to bring pro wrestling into the mainstream, but I found myself cheering for Hulk's opponents (for the most part).

When he was with the NWO i did...back when i watched wrestling.

[freak6]

He should have just quit wrestling and taken care of his son after making that much cake.

[footstepsfrom#27]

My only interest in this phony balogna carnival freakshow has been to occassionally put it on just to sadistically torment my wife with...LOL...other than that I have zero interest in watching this nonsense. It's sad though that so many of these guys lives were cut short by this "sport". Congress ought to ban it in USA on the strength of the drug issues IMO.

But to each his own I guess...

[Popps]

Benoit's doctor's office was raided by DEA this morning.

[bfoflcommish]

man even more strange news.......

wikipedia had it 14 hours before bodies found??????

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19468182/?GT1=10056

ATLANTA - Federal drug agents and sheriff's officials raided the office of pro wrestler Chris Benoit's personal physician in search of records and other items listed in a warrant, an official said Thursday.
Also Thursday, there was another bizarre twist to the case involving a posting to the online encyclopedia Wikipedia.
At 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found, someone updated Benoit's page on the Wikipedia site stating that the reason he missed a match Saturday night was "stemming from the death of his wife Nancy."
Story continues below ↓ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19468182/?GT1=10056#storyContinued) <HR noShade SIZE=1>advertisement <SCRIPT type=text/javascript>ad_dap('250','300','&PG=NBCSMS&AP=1089');</SCRIPT><IFRAME id=dapIf8 src="about:blank" frameBorder=0 width=300 scrolling=no height=250></IFRAME>
<HR noShade SIZE=1>

[/URL]The posting was made by someone using an IP address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based, said Cary Bass, a representative of Wikimedia Foundation of St. Petersburg, Fla., the parent company of Wikipedia.
It was not known where the posting was actually sent from, however, Bass said.
Over the weekend, authorities said, Benoit killed his wife and son and then killed himself at their home in Fayetteville.
The Fayette County District Attorney's Office was made aware of the posting by reporters on Thursday and forwarded the information to sheriff's investigators who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to AP.
WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit's cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.
McDevitt said WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, though he did not know if Chris Benoit had one assigned to him.

<SCRIPT></SCRIPT><TABLE class=boxH_brl cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=boxHC_brl noWrap width=*> ALSO ON THIS STORY
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=boxB_brl cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=boxBI_brl>[URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19474972/"]TODAY: WWE boss McMahon calls Benoit 'monster' (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/)
Celizic: Time to wake up, clean up pro wrestling (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19446194/)
Fact file: What steroids do to your body (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17386500/)
Discuss: Sound off on sports message boards (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/board.aspx?BoardID=473)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

"I have no idea who posted this," McDevitt said. "It's at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we're unaware of. We don't know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities."
The raid at Dr. Phil Astin's office in Carrollton, in West Georgia, began Wednesday night and concluded early Thursday morning, said agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration in Atlanta.
Truesdell said a search warrant obtained by the Fayette County Sheriff's Department in connection with the Benoit investigation was executed there.
He said records and other items were being sought, but he said he could not immediately be more specific. Truesdell also was unable to say what was seized. No arrests were made.
Among other things, investigators were looking for Benoit's medical records to see if he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.
Astin did not return repeated calls to his cell phone from The Associated Press on Thursday.
Benoit had been under the care of Astin, a longtime friend, for treatment of low testosterone levels. Astin said Wednesday the condition likely originated from previous steroid use.
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office on Friday.
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the slayings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard issued a statement Thursday saying he could not comment on the raid at Astin's office, but added that he might have something to say later in the day.
Also Thursday, Ballard told the AP that 10 empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home. An empty wine bottle was found a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself, Ballard said.
It could take several weeks for toxicology tests to be completed on Benoit to see what medications, if any, were in his system.
A "closed" sign hung on the front door of Astin's office Thursday. On the side door was another sign saying, "Our office is closed until further notice and Dr. Astin cannot be reached for comment."
Several patients who arrived for Thursday appointments left disappointed.
One of them, Amanda League of Carrollton said she knew nothing about Astin's connection to Benoit or about the search.
<TABLE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 15px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 5px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><LINK href="/css/html40.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet><SCRIPT src="/js/std.js"></SCRIPT><SCRIPT>var cssList = new Array();</SCRIPT><SCRIPT>getCSS("3053751")</SCRIPT><LINK href="/default.ashx/id/3053751/" type=text/css rel=stylesheet><SCRIPT></SCRIPT><TABLE class=boxH_3053751 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=300><TBODY><TR><TD class=boxHI_3053751 width="1%">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/images/icons/slideshow.gif</TD><TD class=boxHC_3053751 noWrap width=*>Slide show: Week in Sports Pictures
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=boxB_3053751 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=300><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD height="100%">http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/twisp_070625_/TWISP_070625_tease.vsmall.jpg (javascript:SSOpen('9654053','0');) <INPUT class="mbox w77" onmouseover="swapbtn(this, 1)" title=Launch onclick="javascript:SSOpen('9654053','0');" onmouseout="swapbtn(this, 0)" type=button value=Launch>

</TD><TD class=boxBI_3053751> Week in Sports Pictures (javascript:SSOpen('9654053','0');)
Gatorade shower, baseball head shot, lazy golf fan, and more.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>"Oh my goodness, I don't know what to think," League said. "He's always been a great doctor to me. Very nice. The staff is nice. There's great treatment here."
While Jason was there, two or three patients stopped by who had appointments. They were turned away by someone inside the building. Woman in scrubs came to the side door.
In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally retarded 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.
The child suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.
Over the past weekend, authorities said, Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine cable in the couple's suburban home. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.
The WWE attorney, McDevitt, said Thursday that a motive remains elusive because Benoit did not leave a lot of clues to his state of mind as far as the league knows. He did say that Benoit requested and received four months off from work in 2006 for undisclosed personal reasons.
"He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing," McDevitt said.
Ballard said Thursday that while investigators continue to search for a motive, at this time they could only speculate.
"I don't think there will ever be a motive that will satisfy me for killing a 7-year-old child," Ballard said.

[frerottenextelway]

Re: wikipedia

Some in the media should be ashamed about how they report stuff. It took me, literally, 5 minutes to find out what's the truth behind the wikipedia rumors being published by the press.

Follow this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.120.111.23), it will give a list of edits made from the user who editted the Benoit entry (you'll want to click on the links that say "diff").

To give a sample of the user's contributions, for the Sopranos finale he editted in "It was quite possibly, the gayest ****tiest ending to a series ever." For Ron Artest, "Artest is a piece of **** xxxxxx!!!!!!!"

It would be clear to anyone who would have taken the mere minutes to look it up that he's a wiki vandal, and his Benoit entry was nothing more than a strange coincedence. Shame the world we live in would rather subscribe to sensational journalism than reporting based on facts.

[MechanicalBull]

I believe someone has come out and said the wikipedia story was false. With the Doctors office getting raided and this story getting full blown coverage by the media I wonder if it's only a matter of time before the government steps in to try and get rid of the steroids/prescription drugs in wrestling ala mlb.

[TexanBob]

I believe someone has come out and said the wikipedia story was false. With the Doctors office getting raided and this story getting full blown coverage by the media I wonder if it's only a matter of time before the government steps in to try and get rid of the steroids/prescription drugs in wrestling ala mlb.

But, unlike baseball, pro wrestling is no fun with a bunch of girly-men. :strong:
Steroids will always be in that "sport". Always.

[Popps]

I believe someone has come out and said the wikipedia story was false.

You sure? Just did a google search, and every major news outlet (and not so major) are running this as a top story... as factually correct.

If it's true, and it sounds like it is... it's obviously no coincidence, particularly given the IP numbers.

[MechanicalBull]

You sure? Just did a google search, and every major news outlet (and not so major) are running this as a top story... as factually correct.

If it's true, and it sounds like it is... it's obviously no coincidence, particularly given the IP numbers.

I can't believe the media ran so hard with this info without even checking. If this came from any place other than wikipedia then maybe I would believe it. Pretty much anyone can post stories on that site and it's also the site that said the comic Sinbad has died only for him to come out and say the report is false and he was still alive.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_us/wrestler_dead;_ylt=AiVpiE4Ec.jaCRQxNcwWZGKs0NUE
Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.

[TheDave]

I can't believe the media ran so hard with this info without even checking. If this came from any place other than wikipedia then maybe I would believe it. Pretty much anyone can post stories on that site and it's also the site that said the comic Sinbad has died only for him to come out and say the report is false and he was still alive.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_us/wrestler_dead;_ylt=AiVpiE4Ec.jaCRQxNcwWZGKs0NUE

The media would run with a story without all the facts??? ...Imagine that.

[frerottenextelway]

You sure? Just did a google search, and every major news outlet (and not so major) are running this as a top story... as factually correct.

If it's true, and it sounds like it is... it's obviously no coincidence, particularly given the IP numbers.

Did you skip over my post, or are you one of those people that conviently ignores facts to for the sole sake of sensationalism. The person behind the wiki entry (most likely a (pre)teenager), is a wiki vandal. Most likely the person took the reported facts, that Benoit went home for a family emergency, and got lucky in his vandalism.

[MechanicalBull]

The media would run with a story without all the facts??? ...Imagine that.

I know what you mean but it's one thing for the media to turn this into a story that comes from a site that anyone can edit anything on the site.

If I want I can go to the site and have it say that the Broncos have won every superbowl and Griese's dog was the mvp. :~ohyah!:

[TheDave]

I know what you mean but it's one thing for the media to turn this into a story that comes from a site that anyone can edit anything on the site.

If I want I can go to the site and have it say that the Broncos have won every superbowl and Griese's dog was the mvp. :~ohyah!:

I know what you mean... just that nothing the media says or does shocks me anymore. True journalism died a long time ago.

[MechanicalBull]

I know what you mean... just that nothing the media says or does shocks me anymore. True journalism died a long time ago.

I agree with that. The media is all about ratings/$ and if they can get the jump on a story before someone else they are going to do that without checking facts they will do it.

[freak6]

Why are celebrex ads during Olbermann???

hmmm....

Message cpntrol?

[Popps]

Did you skip over my post

Sadly, no.

Most likely the person took the reported facts, that Benoit went home for a family emergency, and got lucky in his vandalism.

Riiiiight.

Tell you what, I'm going to really consider your theory. I'll weigh it against what the rest of the press on the planet is reporting... I'll sleep on it, then I'll get back to you.

I'm sure I'll see it your way by morning.

[frerottenextelway]

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_mystery_editor_confesses:_Claims_%22t errible_coincidence%22

Turns out I was exactly right, rest of the media did get it wrong. Popps, suck it up and apologize.

From the vandal:

Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.

Nonetheless, I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information. I've learned from this experience. I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it.

I wish not to reveal my identity so I can keep me and my family out of this since they have nothing to do with anything. I am not connected to WWE or Benoit at all in anyway. I am from Stamford as the IP address shows, and I am just an everyday individual who posted a wrongful remark at the time that received so much attention because it turned out to actually happen. I will say again I didn't know anything about the Benoit tragedy, it was a terrible coincidence that I never saw coming.

I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered. It was just a rumor that I had heard about from other people online who were speculating what the family emergency Chris was attending to. I made a big mistake by posting this comment on his page, since all we had were what we thought was going on and nothing about what actually was going on yet, and sadly what happened turned out to be my speculation at the time. I assumed wiki would edit out my information, which they did, so thats why I didn't go back to edit it out myself.

I know I keep repeating it but I feel terrible about the mainstream coverage this has received, since it was only a huge coincidence and a terrible event that should of never happened. I am not sure how to react, as hearing about my message becoming a huge part of the Benoit slayings made me feel terrible as everyone believes that it is connected to the tragedy, but it was just an awful coincidence. That is all I have to say, I will never post anything here again unless it is pure fact, no spam nothing like that. Thank you, and let this end this chapter of the Benoit story, and hopefully one day we will find out why this tragedy ever actually happened.

[frerottenextelway]

Sadly, no.



Riiiiight.

Tell you what, I'm going to really consider your theory. I'll weigh it against what the rest of the press on the planet is reporting... I'll sleep on it, then I'll get back to you.

I'm sure I'll see it your way by morning.

Have you come to your conclusion yet, Popps?

http://news.google.com/news?um=1&tab=wn&hl=en&q=benoit%20coincidence

Btw, it's great that in some of the major news outlets all this gets is a small blurb in their original piece saying 'whoops'. Their reporting on the steroids hasn't been much better either.

[frerottenextelway]

The man behind the Wiki vandalism:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=24355838

[Popps]

Have you come to your conclusion yet, Popps?


Yes, I've followed the story and come to a conclusion.

Rest assured, it had nothing to do with your panic attack about it, nor would any decision I ever make about any piece of news.

[frerottenextelway]

Toxicology reports are back, and no steroids found in Benoits body. I hope Vince sues a whole bunch of ''reporters'' for libel, and shame on so many to be so gullible to the sensationalism of the press.

[clint7]

Toxicology reports are back, and no steroids found in Benoits body. I hope Vince sues a whole bunch of ''reporters'' for libel, and shame on so many to be so gullible to the sensationalism of the press.


Huh? ESPN and CNN are reporting steroids WERE found in his body along with anti-anxiety drugs and pain killers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2939837

DECATUR, Ga. -- The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Tuesday that steroids and other drugs were found in the body of former pro wrestler Chris Benoit, and prescription drugs were also found in the bodies of his wife and son.

[KCbroncos]

Shame on some of you who thought this terd was clean!

BREAKING NEWS
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Sources/sourceAP.gif Updated: 14 minutes ago
<SCRIPT language=javascript> function UpdateTimeStamp(pdt) { var n = document.getElementById("udtD"); if(pdt != '' && n && window.DateTime) { var dt = new DateTime(); pdt = dt.T2D(pdt); if(dt.GetTZ(pdt)) {n.innerHTML = dt.D2S(pdt,((''.toLowerCase()=='false')?false:true ));} } } UpdateTimeStamp('633202945010870000');</SCRIPT>

DECATUR, Ga. - Investigators said Tuesday they had found steroids and other drugs in the body of pro wrestler Chris Benoit, who killed his wife and young son last month before hanging himself.
Besides steroids, Benoit’s body contained the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, according to a statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The GBI said Benoit tested negative for blood alcohol.
Benoit’s wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone.

[TheDave]

Wow... A pro Wrestler on Steroids and pain killers. Who would of thunk it???

[vancejohnson82]

yeah, he sounds like a clean guy....I'm sure stacking Xanax and hydrocodone is really what someone on steroids needs to be doing

[frerottenextelway]

Huh? ESPN and CNN are reporting steroids WERE found in his body along with anti-anxiety drugs and pain killers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2939837

DECATUR, Ga. -- The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Tuesday that steroids and other drugs were found in the body of former pro wrestler Chris Benoit, and prescription drugs were also found in the bodies of his wife and son.

Why am I not surprised. They found testosterone, which is a normal therapeutic treatment to effects of prior steroid use years ago. They found "no other steroids or steroid-like drugs" and found no evidence of GHB.

[vancejohnson82]

not clean enough to ride in the Tour de France though


i will not understand why any case is being made for this man....or did i miss something earlier in the thread?

[frerottenextelway]

not clean enough to ride in the Tour de France though


i will not understand why any case is being made for this man....or did i miss something earlier in the thread?

My case isn't for this man, it's against this man and against those who blame and/or excuse this on "roid rage". It's a horribly ignorant take, and in some cases outright lies and distortions.

edit: and on top of that, it puts some real contributing factors on the back seat for the sake of sensationalism.

[vancejohnson82]

agreed....i think steroids had very little to do with this, especially since it was found in the home....i woudl be more prone to think it was because of steroids had steroids NOT been found in the home....people coming off dosages of steroids are more prone to teh "rage" (ridiculous way to describe it) than those still reaping its effects

the xanax, hydrocodone mix is a bad-a$$ cocktail if you ask me though....wouldnt be surprised if he didnt even know what was going on at the time....although he was a big dude

[Crushaholic]

The guy wrestled over two decades. His physique was essentially the same as it was when he first started out, leading one to believe that he took steroids for a long time. I still think something else triggered the rage.

[frerottenextelway]

The guy wrestled over a decade. His physique was the essentially the same as it was when he first started out, leading one to believe that he took steroids for a long time. I still think something else triggered the rage.

It's interesting to note that the doctor at the press conference said that testosterone isn't what is typically taken for body building purposes, but for "testicular productivity shortages".

Perhaps what made him snap was all the alcohol (10+ beers and an entire bottle of wine), or perhaps that mixed with the anti-depressants and pain killers, maybe all the concussions played a major part, or it could be he had an undiagnosed mental disorder. Or maybe he was just an evil person and this entire thing was planned well in advance. I doubt we'll ever know.

[alkemical]

I don't think it was planned much in advance. There is evidence IMO to show remorse (bibles, etc).

IMO he had something in his craw - it may have been what motivated for his career - that also led to this situation.

In all due honesty though - we won't know the true motivations. I just hope all effected have found peace.