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Rigs11
06-25-2007, 04:26 PM
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Spider
06-25-2007, 04:36 PM
I dont get it ? whats the problem ?
Spider
06-25-2007, 04:38 PM
Range Cattle will piss in the same water they drink out of , Farm Chickens crap in their food , Pigs are actually intelligent animals , but Love a good serving of Bacon ..........
Stormontheplains
06-25-2007, 04:53 PM
That video made me hungry. I guess alot of you guys have never lived on a farm.
Spider
06-25-2007, 04:57 PM
That video made me hungry. I guess alot of you guys have never lived on a farm.
hey ....... I lost your # , I tried to find it , I was in Santana Ks the other day tried to call you up hang out on Saturday ........
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 04:59 PM
sick bastards
Spider
06-25-2007, 05:02 PM
sick bastards
why ? I just dont see the problem here .........
c_lazy_r
06-25-2007, 05:12 PM
sick bastards
That is an extremely misleading video.
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 05:13 PM
That is an extremely misleading video.
Wow what a great post. Would you mind elaborating on it?
c_lazy_r
06-25-2007, 05:15 PM
why ? I just dont see the problem here .........
They think Sam Walton and Ronald McDonald have a happy little hamburger patch where the little frozen patties are born. And the bacon and chicken patties live in harmony...
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 05:15 PM
why ? I just dont see the problem here .........
Hence your problem. If we can't treat animals humanely how will we ever treat each other?And to somehow say that they need to be intelligent to feel pain or fear is ridiculous.
Spider
06-25-2007, 05:22 PM
Hence your problem. If we can't treat animals humanely how will we ever treat each other?And to somehow say that they need to be intelligent to feel pain or fear is ridiculous.
ehhhh I dont see you as food ....... Just a shot in the dark here
Rascal
06-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Are we suppose to be vegetarians then?
That will be a cold day in hell.
I want some deer meat. Where's Bambi?
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 05:27 PM
Are we suppose to be vegetarians then?
That will be a cold day in hell.
I want some deer meat. Where's Bambi?
Let's start with treating them better.
Rascal
06-25-2007, 05:29 PM
I'll feed bambi and make sure it gets excellent care so he tastes better.
c_lazy_r
06-25-2007, 05:31 PM
Wow what a great post. Would you mind elaborating on it?
Thanks. I was using the eloquence you displayed in your "sick bastards" post. Thought there was a theme...
Overall the tone was that animals suffer unnecessarily when they are raised and slaughtered. I've never met anyone involved with cattle, hogs or sheep that wanted their animals to suffer and mostly it's the opposite.
The reality is that the animals have to die to make meat. Sorry.
On a side note, I've always had issues with the way chickens are raised and kept on those massive chicken farms.
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 05:32 PM
I'll feed bambi and make sure it gets excellent care so he tastes better.
You're so macho for failing to be humane. God you're cool..
c_lazy_r
06-25-2007, 05:35 PM
Does the video mention where the footage is being shot? I'm watching with no sound.
Rascal
06-25-2007, 05:39 PM
You're so macho for failing to be humane. God you're cool..
Well to be honest I can't watch the video at work, but I use to work in a meat packaging plant, a dairy farm, and pig ranch so I've seen a lot.
The blood, guts, how they are killed, etc might bother some people such as yourself but it doesn't bother me. And being macho has nothing to do with it.
TheDave
06-25-2007, 05:42 PM
That video was seriously disturbing.... damn
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 05:50 PM
Thanks. I was using the eloquence you displayed in your "sick bastards" post. Thought there was a theme...
Overall the tone was that animals suffer unnecessarily when they are raised and slaughtered. I've never met anyone involved with cattle, hogs or sheep that wanted their animals to suffer and mostly it's the opposite.
The reality is that the animals have to die to make meat. Sorry.
On a side note, I've always had issues with the way chickens are raised and kept on those massive chicken farms.
Not wanting them to suffer and letting them suffer is a cop out.It's like saying I didn't want to be an a hole.No one is saying animals don't have to die, it's the way they are treated prior to death and the sloppy way in which they are killed.If you have issues with the chicken farms then you partly understand.
Spider
06-25-2007, 05:51 PM
That video was seriously disturbing.... damn
I dont see it that way , take Chickens , they crawl into their own food and crap , continue on eating , look at a chicken coop on a farm , it is a mess , Dirty and filthy , and they do this in an open chicken coop , Laying hens that are not killed are just as filthy ....... we used to call a chicken a yard buzzard for a reason , Pigs , extremely intelligent animal , but it wont hesitate to take a chunk out of you and eat it ..........
and they are not exaclty a clean animal .. point is I dont see the getting upset over this when these animals will do this in the open ...... Veal maybe a legitimate point though
Stormontheplains
06-25-2007, 05:57 PM
Let's start with treating them better.
Even though the slaugtering process looks bad, Do you have any idea how much care the cows get before they go to market. They live a very stress free life, until the day they walk up the truck ramp. They recieve medicine, all the food they can eat, and get to hang out with thier buddies all day and all night long. Once they hit the beef plant, the stress begins, and it is horrible but over with quickley. Anyone notice all the illegals in the video?
Bronco_Beerslug
06-25-2007, 05:59 PM
That video was seriously disturbing.... damnI rarely eat red meat these days. Feed lots are a lot different now than when I grew up.
If I find some natural fed angus (like in southern Colo. no hormones, steroids, etc..) or something of the like, I'll eat it. I quit eating fast food years ago so that helps.
Even though the slaugtering process looks bad, Do you have any idea how much care the cows get before they go to market. They live a very stress free life, until the day they walk up the truck ramp. They recieve medicine, all the food they can eat, and get to hang out with thier buddies all day and all night long. Once they hit the beef plant, the stress begins, and it is horrible but over with quickley. Anyone notice all the illegals in the video?Oh yeah, I know, in a 50x50 pens, it's got to be great life!
Rascal
06-25-2007, 05:59 PM
Even though the slaugtering process looks bad, Do you have any idea how much care the cows get before they go to market. They live a very stress free life, until the day they walk up the truck ramp. They recieve medicine, all the food they can eat, and get to hang out with thier buddies all day and all night long. Once they hit the beef plant, the stress begins, and it is horrible but over with quickley. Anyone notice all the illegals in the video?
go to any dairy farm or meat packing facility and the majority of workers will be illegals.
Rascal
06-25-2007, 06:00 PM
I quit eating fast food years ago so that helps.
Same here. I'll only do it if I simply have no choice. But then most restaurants aren't any better either.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 06:02 PM
They found a new use for cows in Wyoming ............ SLAUGHTER!
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 06:03 PM
You can't have any pudding if you don't EAT YOUR MEAT!
TheDave
06-25-2007, 06:04 PM
I dont see it that way , take Chickens , they crawl into their own food and crap , continue on eating , look at a chicken coop on a farm , it is a mess , Dirty and filthy , and they do this in an open chicken coop , Laying hens that are not killed are just as filthy ....... we used to call a chicken a yard buzzard for a reason , Pigs , extremely intelligent animal , but it wont hesitate to take a chunk out of you and eat it ..........
and they are not exaclty a clean animal .. point is I dont see the getting upset over this when these animals will do this in the open ...... Veal maybe a legitimate point though
I wasn't concerned about the chickens eating their own ****. Hell my dog does that... Dumb ass dog. It was the way they spend their life crammned into solitary pens unable to move... jerkoffs running around with a pipe wacking them...thousands of them crammed into areas trampleing each other...damn. I guess, i thought they lived a good ole' life on the farm until there number comes up. Heck, i see cows on farms all the time they seemed OK to me... guess there is more to the story.
Luckily we are having home made Mac n Cheese for dinner.
Bronco_Beerslug
06-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Same here. I'll only do it if I simply have no choice. But then most restaurants aren't any better either.I don't eat red meat in restaurants either. I'll eat fish or chicken most of the time (knowing that most chicken is corporate raised and not any better).
Stormontheplains
06-25-2007, 06:06 PM
go to any dairy farm or meat packing facility and the majority of workers will be illegals.
Yes I am very familiar with that. I sold a dairy 3 brand new MCC panels with Freq drives, soft starts, and 2 plc's to run the misters, somewhere around 75k. The 3rd day after they were installed, the morning clean up guy who spoke no english, walks in with his high pressure water hose and cleans them for me. He almost died, destroyed all my gear, it was horrible. Thank god for insurance. I later learned the illegal won a law suit against the dairy for not having signs in spanish that warned him of the impending danger.
DBruleU
06-25-2007, 06:06 PM
Eh, whatever. I don't care for animal cruelty, but I'll still eat meat, and I'll make sure to eat a couple more servings of delicious chicken breast just for you riggs.
I love that Baldwin seems to be the narrorator, and the choice of words is rather funny as well. They tried so hard to make us feel as bad for these "poor", "helpless", "bone fragile", "artificially enhanced", "weak from stress and anxiety" animals, so that we may become one of the enlightened "compassionate" (Since I'm not compassionate enough) people who have given up meat.
Spider
06-25-2007, 06:12 PM
I wasn't concerned about the chickens eating their own ****. Hell my dog does that... Dumb ass dog. It was the way they spend their life crammned into solitary pens unable to move... jerkoffs running around with a pipe wacking them...thousands of them crammed into areas trampleing each other...damn. I guess, i thought they lived a good ole' life on the farm until there number comes up. Heck, i see cows on farms all the time they seemed OK to me... guess there is more to the story.
Luckily we are having home made Mac n Cheese for dinner.
LOL ........ I agree with most of your post , but that many chickens in 1 place= one hellva chicken fight
Stormontheplains
06-25-2007, 06:17 PM
If you don't eat read meat, you are not an american!!! I can't imagine someone not loving a aged angus ribeye with a cold beer and taters.
Spider
06-25-2007, 06:19 PM
They found a new use for cows in Wyoming ............ SLAUGHTER!
damn ... Now I have to throw away my bucket I stand on .........Stump Broke heifers are hard to come by ;D
DBruleU
06-25-2007, 06:19 PM
If you don't eat read meat, you are not an american!!! I can't imagine someone not loving a aged angus ribeye with a cold beer and taters.
A cold beer sounds so good after a hot day like this.
Spider
06-25-2007, 06:21 PM
A cold beer sounds so good after a hot day like this.
are you old enough to drink ?
I'm a strong supporter of PETA.
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.
Or, as the old saw goes, "If God didn't want Man to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat".
Rigs11
06-25-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm a strong supporter of PETA.
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.
Or, as the old saw goes, "If God didn't want Man to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat".
Good one wigs.You're so funny. Were'd you get that one? the redneck comedy hour?