View Full Version : If YOU were a 5-Star Blue-Chip High School Athlete, Which College Would You Choose?
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 01:49 AM
I think you can tell something about a person by their answer here: If YOU were a BLUE-CHIP, can't-miss high school football or basketball star, with your choice of ANY COLLEGE to attend, like Denver-area linebacker Jon Major (click here) (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=385&p=8&c=1&nid=2786666), where would you go to college?
It's tempting, but please do NOT choose FAVORITES or Alma-Maters!
Also, you can choose multiple, but please limit it to TWO.
SoCalBronco
06-24-2007, 01:52 AM
Whichever one made me the best financial offer, which means I'd likely end up somewhere in the SEC.
epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2007, 01:53 AM
An institution that will both guarantee a top-notch education with connections (ensuring that I hit the ground running in the workforce), a great traditional sports program, and a beautiful campus set away from a big city. Preferrably in the mountains.
freak6
06-24-2007, 01:56 AM
Depends on my position and sport.
If a Quarterback, I'm looking at USC because I know I'll have tons of talent around me and good coaching. Also Notre Dame for the same reasons.
If I'm a basketball player and I'm smart its Duke, UNC, if I'm a rock I'd look at an SEC school.
If I'm a lineman either side of the ball and I want competition it's SEC, probably Florida.
Miami would be good for football or basketball really, hot chicks there.
If I want to standout among the scrubs I'm looking at a PAC 10 school outside of SC. If I'm a genius its CAL or Stan, if not Oregon St, or Wash St.
If I smoke weed, alot, Oregon.
The most important thing is never choose Nebraska, this is a career killer.
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 01:57 AM
I choose UCLA if I'm basketball or a QB or RB ... any other position, I'd go to Oregon.
Quack, quack.
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 01:58 AM
An institution that will both guarantee a top-notch education with connections (ensuring that I hit the ground running in the workforce), a great traditional sports program, and a beautiful campus set away from a big city. Preferrably in the mountains.
Stanford welcomes you, Llama.
Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2007, 01:59 AM
Miami and OSU for a LB like Major
Florida_Bronco
06-24-2007, 02:01 AM
Nebraska. Partly because I'm a fan, but mainly because they have a top notch athletic program and academics. All around great school.
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 02:06 AM
The most important thing is never choose Nebraska, this is a career killer.
You're right about that. I recently did a thread on the most talent in a college game, and (despite the fact I was thrashed) I did do some research, and looking at about 6 Nebraska games - Fumblerooski to 2002 Rose Bowl, they are awful at placing kids in the NFL. Just plain awful.
Inkana7
06-24-2007, 02:07 AM
West Virgina. I'm undersized, their system uses undersized personnel, and I'm a fan.
epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2007, 02:17 AM
Stanford welcomes you, Llama.
That was my first though. I thought about going there, but the tuition was high even for what I was looking at. Great school in a great place.
I was also interested in Cal Berkeley, Furman, and Duke.
SureShot
06-24-2007, 02:20 AM
I still voted for CU. My second choice would be Michigan.
tsiguy96
06-24-2007, 02:21 AM
UW-Madison
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 02:24 AM
I was thinking football, or I wouldda included Duke, Kansas and NC ...
Wisconsin was the next one I was gonna list before I ran outta room on the poll. Madison, Iowa City and Lawrence are all GREAT college towns, almost like Boulder.
I have zero athletic ability, but I would have LOVED to go to Stanford! That's impressive that you couldda got in there Llama, serious! They didn't accept me, although my 3.38 GPA and 31 ACT was good enough for Notre Dame. I didn't even want to go there, but at Regis High School, the application fee was waived. Us Catholics stick together!
epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2007, 02:25 AM
I was thinking football, or I wouldda included Duke, Kansas and NC ... and Wisconsin was the last one before I ran outta room.
Man, I have zero athletic ability, but I would have LOVED to go to Stanford!
That's impressive that you couldda got in there Llama. They didn't accept me, although my 3.38 GPA and 31 ACT was good enough for Notre Dame. I didn't even want to go there, but at Regis High School, the application fee was waived.
They were out of my league financially because they were out of state. I found a local private college where I was able to get a great education and a nice academic scholarship to help with the cost. I thought about getting back in playing shape and playing soccer my last year there, but I couldnt find the time.
footstepsfrom#27
06-24-2007, 02:35 AM
Stanford.
freak6
06-24-2007, 02:36 AM
Nebraska. Partly because I'm a fan, but mainly because they have a top notch athletic program and <b>academics.</b> All around great school.
LMFAO!!!
All around great school....bwaa haa haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa
Your supposed to not be biased here.
What 5 star blue chip prospect would choose to do 3 years of hard time in Nebraska?
HELLO, there is a reason why you are in Florida yourself! LOL
The most important thing is never choose Nebraska, this is a career killer.
You're right about that, and looking at about 6 Nebraska games they are awful at placing kids in the NFL. Just plain awful.
Jens1893
06-24-2007, 03:05 AM
Why donīt we rename this thread into "Who is your favorite College FB team?"
Kaylore
06-24-2007, 03:10 AM
It would depend on the situation and what I played. I voted for BYU because BroncoBuff made the category just for me, but honestly I'd try to take a school in the SEC and go to one that gave me a chance to play a lot and had some success.
Requiem
06-24-2007, 03:57 AM
A community college so I could rip **** up.
Killericon
06-24-2007, 04:05 AM
MIT.
;)
Stanford.
maher_tyler
06-24-2007, 04:06 AM
You're right about that. I recently did a thread on the most talent in a college game, and (despite the fact I was thrashed) I did do some research, and looking at about 6 Nebraska games - Fumblerooski to 2002 Rose Bowl, they are awful at placing kids in the NFL. Just plain awful.
Awful..explain
BroncoBuff
06-24-2007, 04:19 AM
Awful..explain
Well, I was trying to determine which college game has had - both teams combined - the game with the most talent all on the field at one time. And the way I researched it is I selected about 20 games from the last 30 years, and using Pro Bowl rosters and the NFL year-by-year draft results (you can filter the results a million ways including by college team: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/drafts ), I was able to see how many players were drafted from certain games.
Cornhuskers have less success in the NFL than Buffaloes, no doubt about it. Which is strange, cause we beat them maybe only twice a decade over that span. And I thoroughly checked several NU games, vs. Oklahoma in '82, a couple times vs. CU, the Ga. Tech Tangerine Bowl in '91, both of Tommy Frazier's Orange Bowls, the Miami Rose Bowl in January 2002. Lots of no-name guys. LOTS of them. Very few WR, QB, TE, K, etc.... the only QB who played really at all was David Humm. The RBs seem cursed - Johnny Rodgers, Lawrence Phillips. Rathman did better than both combined. Of course there's Roger Craig and Ahman Green, but almost no defensive players of any serious gravity - Pro Bowl gravity - from Nebraska.
EDIT - I know Husker guys will throw a couple big defensive names at me, but I'm talking over the last 25-30 years. Click that link and read thru the names. You'll be surprised.
maher_tyler
06-24-2007, 04:30 AM
Well, I was trying to determine which college game has had - both teams combined - the game with the most talent all on the field at one time. And the way I researched it is I selected about 20 games from the last 30 years, and using Pro Bowl rosters and the NFL year-by-year draft results (you can filter the results a million ways including by college team: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/drafts ), I was able to see how many players were drafted from certain games.
Cornhuskers have less success in the NFL than Buffaloes ... which is strange, cause we beat them only maybe twice a decade. And I checked several NU games, vs. Oklahoma in 82, a couple times vs. CU, both of Tommy Frazier's Orange Bowls, the Miami Rose Bowl in January 2002. Lots of no-name guys. LOTS of them. Very few WR, QB, TE, K, etc.... the only QB who played really at all was David Humm. The RBs seem cursed - Johnny Rodgers, Lawrence Phillips. Rathman did better than both combined. Of course there's Roger Craig and Ahman Green, but almost no defensive players of any serious gravity - Pro Bowl gravity - from Nebraska.
EDIT - I know Husker guys will throw a couple big defensive names at me, but I'm talking over the last 25-30 years. Click that link and read thru the names. You'll be surprised.
True but they do have guys who make it to the NFL...Grant Wistrom, Fabian Washington..Bullocks..those are just the ones i know off the top of my head.
Atlas
06-24-2007, 04:43 AM
I think you can tell something about a person by their answer here: If YOU were a BLUE-CHIP, can't-miss high school football or basketball star, with your choice of ANY COLLEGE to attend, like Denver-area linebacker Jon Major (click here) (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=385&p=8&c=1&nid=2786666), where would you go to college?
It's tempting, but please do NOT choose FAVORITES or Alma-Maters!
Also, you can choose multiple, but please limit it to TWO.
Depends if I was smart or I was a moron. If I was smart I would go to Stanford. but, all things being what they are I'd probably go to Miami.
Crushaholic
06-24-2007, 05:00 AM
I narrowed it down to 3 schools from 3 different conferences. Each one of these schools have great football traditions: Texas, Southern Cal, and Ohio State. In the cases of Texas and Ohio State, they also have pretty good basketball teams.
Arkansas Bronco
06-24-2007, 06:39 AM
I would go where my wife tells me I have to go. All married people understand.
Jens1893
06-24-2007, 08:35 AM
I would go where my wife tells me I have to go. All married people understand.
You were married coming out of HS? :wave:
Broncoman13
06-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Sorry Buff, didn't follow your rules (limit of two) b/c there were a few that I had to vote for.
#1. Texas is actually a great university when it comes to athletics. For every Vince Young there is a Justin Blalock. And, when you have Football, Basketball, Baseball, Track, and just about any other sport you can think of, consistently in the top 10 you have to consider it on of the top programs in the country.
#2a The next three are all grouped together. Penn St b/c of Coach Paterno should be a school that parents look at and say "Son, you're going to state, you're going to play for coach Paterno and learn to be a man." I know that there have been some knuckleheads to come out of PSU, but imagine what they would have been without Paterno's influence.
2b USC b/c of Pete Carrol is in my top 5. USC also has shown that not every student athlete is given a free ride when it comes to academics. I would look at my options and if I lived in the Western US, SoCal would be my choice. I know I'd play against top comp and I know that I'd be prepared for the NFL game. If I'm a blue chipper I have my sights set on the NFL. There's two coaches in the NCAA right now that are doing outstanding jobs of getting their kids ready USC and.........
#2c Notre Dame. Like USC I'm not a huge fan of Notre Dame, but you can't discount the influence of Charlie Weiss. It's my opinion but I bet the NFL supplements Charlie's $5mil a year with a few bones to keep him in college football. You can't tell me that teams like the Chiefs that are sucking hind tit with Herm Edwards wouldn't or aren't offering the farm for Charlie... but that takes away one of the best preparers in college football. We all know that the NCAA is the NFL's farm system. Without guys like Pete Carrol and Charlie Weiss the NFL would lose money. Especially when you consider that paying a guy $25-30 million up front for 5 or 6 years doesn't exactly play well into the conventional thinking of "Sitting out and learning the first year."
#5 Florida. I've like Urb Meyer since his days in Utah. He may be full of gimmicks and his offense won't prepare too many guys for the NFL... but he knows how to find players. He's an outstanding talent evaluator and if I'm a blue chipper and he's telling me that I can be a big time player at Florida... I'm taking that opportunity. You know you're going to play against the best comp in the country. You know that the NFL is going to pay attention to you b/c of past drafts (history). And, say what you will, but there is a lot of truth in "Flavor of the month" and that goes for the NFL as well.
There are several other schools that could fit in here as well. I'm not a big Michigan or OSU fan, but both are very good schools with outstanding history. A kid would be wise to pick either.
spdirty
06-24-2007, 10:32 AM
Top 3 would be CU, Texas, or Florida State...and whichever school gives me the cheapest lunches.
Jens1893
06-24-2007, 10:36 AM
Top 3 would be CU, Texas, or Florida State...and whichever school gives me the cheapest lunches.
ROFL!
That may cost a school 3 schollies and a 100k fine, you know.
rbackfactory80
06-24-2007, 11:46 AM
Cuse, Rutgers. Bring some talent to the Northeast.
Gcver2ver3
06-24-2007, 11:47 AM
Florida....
penguintheory
06-24-2007, 12:23 PM
Guy in my avatar made the smart decision, as would I.
Evenrude
06-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Lots of no-name guys. LOTS of them. Very few WR, QB, TE, K, etc.... the only QB who played really at all was David Humm. .............Of course there's Roger Craig and Ahman Green, but almost no defensive players of any serious gravity - Pro Bowl gravity - from Nebraska.
LOL.. an option offense didn't put many WRs or QBs into the NFL... that's a huge suprise.
Roger Craig - 4-time Pro Bowler, 3 time Super Bowl winner.
Irving Fryer - Top 10 all time in receptions and recieving yards.
Will Sheilds - 11-time Pro Bowler, future HOF.
As for defensive players: Neil Smith, Grant Wistrom, Mike Rucker, Mike Minter, and recently Mike Brown, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Demorrio Williams, Fabian Washington, and Josh Bullocks have all been impact players.
With the recent change to the west coast offense, and recruiting surge, Nebraska will be putting more and more offensive players into the league.
Your supposed to not be biased here.
What 5 star blue chip prospect would choose to do 3 years of hard time in Nebraska?
You are the biased one. You pass off a bunch of generalizations and prejudice about a place you obviously know very little about.
As a top talent player coming out of high school Nebraska would be among the upper echelon of places to go. If you want to go somewhere to play football, not ski or go to the beach, then NU is the place to be.
That One Guy
06-24-2007, 01:05 PM
I put Michigan because it's my favorite but if I were an elite prospect then my intentions would be to end up in the NFL. Ohio State and Michigan play very good competition and always have good teams but they get outstanding publicity... if you want to be seen on national TV, the Big Ten is a great place to go. If you just wanted to be the best you could be, the SEC would probably be a good choice as there is generally a pretty tough, consistent schedule for you to work against. We all know hype is a big part of making it to the NFL though and it's hard to rival the hype that you can get coming out of a Big Ten school... maybe Miami could rival OSU and UM. USC is also very hyped but there it's very easy to be overshadowed by someone being even more overhyped then you.
Billy Clyde Puckett
06-24-2007, 01:05 PM
Plenty of factors go into the decision that aren't in his bio. Does he have personal of family ties to a school? What is his personality? Will he fit with the coaching staff, etc.
Of course I would want him to go to CU, but watch out for Wisconsin in this coming decade. They have a very dynamic young coach who can really sell these kids.
Hogan11
06-24-2007, 01:43 PM
UGA....University of Georgia.
A cake school in a great cultural community....what's not to love? Ha!
Billy Clyde Puckett
06-24-2007, 01:49 PM
UGA....University of Georgia.
A cake school in a great cultural community....what's not to love? Ha!
And a great coach. And the coeds, and the coeds, and the coeds........
elsid13
06-24-2007, 01:50 PM
It really depend on the what the kid wants. If I was great defense players I think you need to go to Miami or SEC school. Plenty of chance to play and speed of the game. If I wanted to be a pro QB I think you need to USC or ND (ugh!) right now.
IF I wanted to chance tail - UF or Kansas
Place I would stay away from if I was there to play football - Stanford, Service Academies and couple of other well know academic colleges.
24champ
06-24-2007, 01:54 PM
Southern California, UCLA, or San Diego State. Reason being the women there are super fine...
Hogan11
06-24-2007, 01:56 PM
And a great coach. And the coeds, and the coeds, and the coeds........
I hear ya Billy!!
SouthStndJunkie
06-24-2007, 03:02 PM
Michigan
Go Blue!
TheChamp24
06-24-2007, 03:21 PM
For those saying nebraska, I just have to laugh IMO because what the heck is there to do in Nebraska? Look at corn fields? I hate Nebraska the state and the school.
And I do love the Nebraska fans defending the school when it is attacked.
Also, if Bob Stoops stays at OU I would consider going there, but most likely go somewhere in Colorado. I wouldn't want to leave there.
Billy Clyde Puckett
06-24-2007, 03:33 PM
I hear ya Billy!!
Did I mention the coeds? ;D
Florida_Bronco
06-24-2007, 03:59 PM
For those saying nebraska, I just have to laugh IMO because what the heck is there to do in Nebraska? Look at corn fields? I hate Nebraska the state and the school.
And I do love the Nebraska fans defending the school when it is attacked.
Also, if Bob Stoops stays at OU I would consider going there, but most likely go somewhere in Colorado. I wouldn't want to leave there.
Have you ever been to Lincoln, or Omaha? Just by your post, I'd guess not.
Chupacabra
06-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Texas. Partly because I'm here...Partly because we produce top notch NFL talent consistently...Partly because Austin is a great city to be a college celeb in.
TexanBob
06-24-2007, 04:04 PM
There are really too many variables to make a definitive statement. Since I'm hypothesizing that I'm a stud blue-chip athlete, am I also an outstanding student? Do I have career plans beyond the NFL? Am I more comfortable as a small fish in a big pond or a big fish in a small pond? Do I like authoritarian coaches that will push me to get the best of myself or the player's coach that will be my buddy and possibly even alter his playbook to emphasize my skills? Am I eager to be a thousand miles from home or do I want to be close to home where family and homeys can watch me? While the school may be a great football factory, is it a top institution for my longterm career goals? Do I need a lot of structure or do I prefer to improvise? If I'm a multi-sport star, how good is the other sports programs there? Is it known as a party school and do I like to party?
Thankfully, the potential answers are as diverse as the potential schools one could sign with. I really don't want to see 4 or 5 schools dominate the sport so such diversity is a good thing.
As far as overall sports excellence in a vast number of sports, I would suggest Texas, Florida, LSU, Ohio State and UCLA.
ward63
06-24-2007, 04:58 PM
Michigan
freak6
06-24-2007, 06:24 PM
You are the biased one. You pass off a bunch of generalizations and prejudice about a place you obviously know very little about.
As a top talent player coming out of high school Nebraska would be among the upper echelon of places to go. If you want to go somewhere to play football, not ski or go to the beach, then NU is the place to be.
What has Nebraska done lately? Nothing. What great coach is there to mold a superstar RB, WR, QB, or even TE?
I'll give you the defensive studs of years gone past, but that was then.
Most importantly, if I am a blue chip stud that wants an elite education, am I going to go to farmtown boring ass Nebraska where outside of the school there is nothing fun to do, or go to warm weather fun school and area like Florida and SoCal?
Nebraska winters after football season, what are you looking forward too? Harsh cold winters and spring lifting session...
Florida and So Cal has better weather, hotter girls, more fun things to do.
And better sports programs at that.
24champ
06-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Texas. Partly because I'm here...Partly because we produce top notch NFL talent consistently...Partly because Austin is a great city to be a college celeb in.
There's a lot of girls with talent at Texas too.;D
Crowpointer
06-24-2007, 07:09 PM
[QUOTE=elsid13;1625858] If I wanted to be a pro QB I think you need to USC or ND (ugh!)
Why the ugh. ND is the school Yaz picked until he left after 1 year to join the Sox.
Man-Goblin
06-24-2007, 07:12 PM
I wanted to go to school at CU since my dad brought me to Boulder as a little boy. When I made my decision to go there it didn't really have much to do with the football program, but I admit I did grow up a huge Buffs fan.
Coming off an injury in high school, I got offered a pretty substantial scholarship to go play at a D-II school, but I chose to drop football and concentrate on school. CU was it for me, but even if I was an all-world football player I assume I would have made the same choice.
Chupacabra
06-24-2007, 07:27 PM
There's a lot of girls with talent at Texas too.;D
You aren't kidding...and watching the football guys clean up around here solidifies my vote.
Man-Goblin
06-24-2007, 07:39 PM
You aren't kidding...and watching the football guys clean up around here solidifies my vote.
There are talented girls on every college campus.
elsid13
06-24-2007, 07:52 PM
[QUOTE=elsid13;1625858] If I wanted to be a pro QB I think you need to USC or ND (ugh!)
Why the ugh. ND is the school Yaz picked until he left after 1 year to join the Sox.
There is deep hatred in my household for ND. It because my father went to AFA.
Los Broncos
06-24-2007, 07:53 PM
ND all the way.
CU was always number 1 on my radar.
UW was #2.
LSU was #3.
Natedog24
06-24-2007, 10:30 PM
USC or Oregon - Assuming we are talking about Football right?
USC is pretty obvious, probably the best overall program in the country year to year ever since Pete has been there. Pete Carroll is one the best player's coaches in the country and looks like he would be a blast to play for. Seems like USC is a national championship contender every year these days more so then any team in the country so I think USC would give you the best chance at a championship and more exposure then any other West Coast school.
Oregon would be cool because it is Nike U, has tremendous facilities and has a ravage fan base. You also have a better chance to not just be a great player in a long list of greats like you would be at USC or Ohio State for example. But you could be a real legend, look at Joey Harrington, no matter how poor he does in the NFL he will always be a God in Eugene. And that Autzen Stadium place is pretty nice.
24champ
06-24-2007, 11:02 PM
There are talented girls on every college campus.
We're talking quantity and quality here Man-Goblin.;D
I went to juco before transferring out here to Colorado, and my Juco college was rated in the top 10 in playboy for quality of girls in 2002 I believe. I think Pierce or Grossmont college was the only one in California rated higher than us.
Chupacabra
06-24-2007, 11:23 PM
There are talented girls on every college campus.
Sure, but not an abundance on every college campus. Our girls were rated hottest a couple years back by Playboy.
Broncos_OTM
06-24-2007, 11:26 PM
Colorado Becuase i am a homer
USC Becuase i love the state and school
Texas Because Texas rocks
Notre Dame becuase of the legacy
Kaylore
06-25-2007, 12:14 AM
I'd probably pick Vanderbilt; Ivy league education and SEC competition. Does it get any better?
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 12:29 AM
USC or Oregon - Assuming we are talking about Football right? USC is pretty obvious, probably the best overall program in the country year to year ever since Pete has been there ... and more exposure then any other West Coast school.
Oregon would be cool because it is Nike U, has tremendous facilities and has a ravage fan base. You also have a better chance to not just be a great player in a long list of greats like you would be at USC or Ohio State for example. But you could be a real legend, look at Joey Harrington, no matter how poor he does in the NFL he will always be a God in Eugene. And that Autzen Stadium place is pretty nice.
Your thinking was right with mine actually ... I said UCLA if I was basketball or a quarterback, Oregon anything else. Eugene is exceptionally beautiful, it is an AWESOME college town! Great girls, (WAY great), a smallish 16k enrollment, Nike U, rabid fans and a great stadium like you said.
I did say UCLA and not USC though, mostly because USC is in south-central, but Westwood is nestled between Bel-Air, Brentwood and Santa Monica. Plus I have several friends that are USC fans/alums, and they are the WORST ... and for some reason, all the biggest a-h*le judges went to USC law school.
Steve Sewell
06-25-2007, 12:42 AM
I choose UCLA if I'm basketball or a QB or RB ... any other position, I'd go to Oregon.
Quack, quack.
Yeah but all the pics of you playing in college would be of you looking ridiculous!
Steve Sewell
06-25-2007, 12:48 AM
Nebraska. Partly because I'm a fan, but mainly because they have a top notch athletic program and academics. All around great school.
I actually laughed out loud when when I read this...
Steve Sewell
06-25-2007, 12:56 AM
Well, I was trying to determine which college game has had - both teams combined - the game with the most talent all on the field at one time. And the way I researched it is I selected about 20 games from the last 30 years, and using Pro Bowl rosters and the NFL year-by-year draft results (you can filter the results a million ways including by college team: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/drafts ), I was able to see how many players were drafted from certain games.
Cornhuskers have less success in the NFL than Buffaloes, no doubt about it. Which is strange, cause we beat them maybe only twice a decade over that span. And I thoroughly checked several NU games, vs. Oklahoma in '82, a couple times vs. CU, the Ga. Tech Tangerine Bowl in '91, both of Tommy Frazier's Orange Bowls, the Miami Rose Bowl in January 2002. Lots of no-name guys. LOTS of them. Very few WR, QB, TE, K, etc.... the only QB who played really at all was David Humm. The RBs seem cursed - Johnny Rodgers, Lawrence Phillips. Rathman did better than both combined. Of course there's Roger Craig and Ahman Green, but almost no defensive players of any serious gravity - Pro Bowl gravity - from Nebraska.
EDIT - I know Husker guys will throw a couple big defensive names at me, but I'm talking over the last 25-30 years. Click that link and read thru the names. You'll be surprised.
ummm...CU-Michigan '94? There were loads of players that were drafted on those rosters.
Steve Sewell
06-25-2007, 12:58 AM
I narrowed it down to 3 schools from 3 different conferences. Each one of these schools have great football traditions: Texas, Southern Cal, and Ohio State. In the cases of Texas and Ohio State, they also have pretty good basketball teams.
They all pay REALLY well too...
Steve Sewell
06-25-2007, 12:59 AM
Guy in my avatar made the smart decision, as would I.
In that case it would have to be Akron for me.
Mediator12
06-25-2007, 01:11 AM
Florida State or Tennessee to play football because of their graduate degree and undergrad programs in Sports Psychology.
Duke for hoops, because that degree gets you just about anywhere in grad school and they are always top notch with an impeccable coach.
anthonypacino
06-25-2007, 03:17 AM
This is a tough question, but slightly unfair asking us not to choose based on our favorites or alma matters.
Nowadays with the climate of sports and the effect the pro game has on college sports choosing which school to go to is complex. Some players choose schools based on many factors like location, fan of the school, parents or friends were alum, favorite players went to that school and others. But then there are "others".
Jimmy Clausen was the most recruited freshman QB this year, he had been giving verbal commits to schools since he was in junior high, his brother was the starter for Tennesse, so Fulmer had a commit, then he flipped to FLA til Spurrier bailed for the NFL, then it was his backyard USC, then when Charlie Weis took over the Irish he chose ND. His choice was solely based on the fact that NFL scouts will want to draft him higher because of the tutelege of Weis (Look at all the hype that Quinn got for the last two years despite not beating top 10 ranked team or winning a bowl game) and Weis's rep is based on what Tom Brady was able to do.
I know sports are big business, these kids are trying to look out for themselves but choices like that seem too mercenary to me. There is plenty of time for that when they become FA's in the NFL.
I know teams with good records, bowl championships tend to draw more top flight High Schoolers, but somewhere inside I would feel better about drafting a kid who went to a school becasue he wanted to, not just becasue it gave him a better chance to go #1 overall.
Nebraska is a great example of how the NFL and large contracts influence college recruiting. Nebraska was a powerhouse program for years, they ran the option offense, Oklahoma ran it, Texas at one time ran it, tons of schools ran it. People started to notice how the media would say "Option QB's can't make it in the NFL." For the most part they are right, pro coaches don't run that style of offense they look for the pro-style guys. So Nebraska who didn't change their style suffered, QB's didn't want to go there, WR's didn't want to go to a school that didn't throw 30 times a game, RB's and linemen stopped going because other postions weren't being filled by the blue chippers anymore and they wanted to go somewhere that gave them a better chance to win. Most of the kids of today don't care about the rich history of their sports, so the fact that Nebraska was so good for so long didn't matter to them. So what did they do to try to return to prominice, they hired a West Coast NFL coach that took a team to the Super Bowl, now Nebraska is starting to get noticed again. I would bet that half of the current kids on USC's team don't know what "student body right" means or who the "Three Blind Mice" were, or at Texas that Darrayl Royal the coach who put them on the map played at OU and was a student of Bud Wilkerson.
So now to answer the question, Ohio State would be the place for me. I have never lived in Ohio, nor did I attend the university. My deceased Great Uncle was a Ohio native and a huge sports fan. He was in the Air Force and lived in the Springs, he returned home once a year to visit and would always bring be back a hat or T-shirt or something with OSU on it, I thought it was cool cause none of the other 7 year olds had anything like it. And at the time CU, CSU were not powerhouses and Air Force was not real popular outside of the Springs, so Ohio State became MY team, MY school. I watched every televised game they played in my region, followed them in the sports page and learned all I could about the school and traditions. I have stuck with them through the good times and the bad, just like I have the Broncos. I wouldn't choose them because they have put more kids in the NFL over the last few years than any other school, or that they have played in two national title games in the last 4 years. It would be because I have dreamed about running onto the same field as Archie Griffth or Jesse Owens did, heard the crowd cheer me on like they did for Randy Gradishar or Jim Parker, been on the same sidelines that Woody Hayes and Paul Brown walked, hear the victory bell in the tower be rung after a win like Eddie George or Rex Kern did, to walk in "The Grove" where every OSU All-American has been honored by a tree being planted for them or being awarded the Gold Pants for defeating Michigan. Those are the reasons why I would attend. I know that there is plenty of kids out there who would like to do that as well, I just hope that instead of a advice from a agent would be drowned out by the voice telling him that if you work hard and do your best you can be a All-American at Rice or SMU just like you could at ND or Miami.
24champ
06-25-2007, 03:21 AM
Can I get the cliffnotes version Pacino?
SoCalBronco
06-25-2007, 03:22 AM
Outstanding post, pacino.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 03:30 AM
ummm...CU-Michigan '94? There were loads of players that were drafted on those rosters.
You read my mind. Now read the thread: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=57061
That '94 CU-Michigan game I believe was the winner at one time, but Miami had a run of players drafted between 2001 and 2004 that is astonishing. Almost any decent team they played then (with the exception of the NU Rose Bowl in January '02) beat out that '94 game.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 03:59 AM
I understand Slap and Pat Bowlen choosing Academic schools ... Stanford, Cal, et al...
But chanesaw, killer and the crippler too? I'm not entirely sure you guys are "cut out" for the Ivy League ;D
Mediator12
06-25-2007, 08:26 AM
I understand Slap and Pat Bowlen choosing Academic schools ... Stanford, Cal, et al...
But chanesaw, killer and the crippler too? I'm not entirely sure you guys are "cut out" for the Ivy League ;D
Academic schools are not necessarily the best place to get your undergraduate degree. I wanted a place where I could get the post graduate degree classes and like the coaches. Duke is almost Ivy League in academia and their undergrad psych degree is top notch. FSU and TEN have incredible Sports Psych dept's and an undergrad from there would help get into grad school and play for two perennial powerhouse football schools.
brncs_fan
06-25-2007, 08:53 AM
Since the thread has pretty much gone the way of football I voted for Notre Dame, and here is why.
You know going into ND that you are going to play some big games, i.e. Michigan, USC, Michigan State, etc. and that you are probably going to play in atleast one major bowl game over four years.
Second, you know that ND games are going to be broadcasted all over the country and that you will get every chance to showcase your talents to the country and get a chance to compete for thse coveted end of the year awards.
Third, Charlie Weis.
Some other things that you get are a top-notch education, tons of tradition, a pro-style playbook, and some very hot girls as well.
My second choice of course would be Eastern Illinois University though so I could coach if anything ever happeneds to me. :P
Jens1893
06-25-2007, 09:27 AM
Academic schools are not necessarily the best place to get your undergraduate degree. I wanted a place where I could get the post graduate degree classes and like the coaches. Duke is almost Ivy League in academia and their undergrad psych degree is top notch. FSU and TEN have incredible Sports Psych dept's and an undergrad from there would help get into grad school and play for two perennial powerhouse football schools.
Were you recruited to play Div 1A football?
Football: Notre Dame. Good staff, good tradition, plenty of exposure so if I produce I'm not just going pro, I'm getting drafted high. They have a good pre-law program as well though and it'd make me a straight shot for a law degree post grad. Get the J.D. and go to work representing my boys as an NFL agent. Rolling in it either way.
Basketball: UConn. Similar reasons, great program, great staff, gets you plenty of east coast play especially from the boys in Bristol. History of highly drafted, successful players only helps my draft stock. Worst case scenario I graduate with a good degree from a quality school.
Baseball: My alma matter, UMaine. Historically good baseball school, good coaching staff, get to be a home state star and get a good degree, probably in Geology/Earth Science. As an added plus I'd be in NE already so I should excell in Cape League play and when the Red Sox drafted me I'd be on the field within a week.
Smiling Assassin27
06-25-2007, 10:42 AM
ND for all the reasons expressed already. There's a network of alumni/former coaches that really make your experience at ND more meaningful, IMO. Even the unsuccessful ones, like Gerry Faust, know what the ND student athlete should be provided with, and they all are so loyal that you can't help but buy into it. When Digger Phelps or Coach Holtz come back, they really reach out to the students.
Again, this is only if you're an elite athlete. If not, then Franciscan University of Steubenville or Christendom College--an easy choice.
*tosses two pennies*
Mediator12
06-25-2007, 03:57 PM
Were you recruited to play Div 1A football?
Yep, as a kicker ;D
I played Div 1 soccer at IU and had offers to Duke, Notre Dame, Stanford, Harvard, St Louis, UCLA, Evansville, and South Carolina. Harvard does not give athletic schaolarships, so that ruled that out. I did not like ND or Stanford. St Louis and Evansville were good soccer schools, but not very cool campuses. I loved South Carolina and UCLA and UCLA and IU were my final two. In the end, I stayed and played at home for the team I idolized as a kid and went to camp there.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 06:55 PM
Wow Med!
We're gonna need a whole new thread for your recruiting stories!
What year did you kick for the Hoosiers? The first game when I was a freshman in Boulder was INDIANA! In Folsom Field!
(That was 1980 though, I am old ... :olddude:)
Jens1893
06-25-2007, 07:16 PM
Before you get your hopes up, BB, he never said he saw the field as a kicker at IU. :)
A few have tried to turn soccer players into American football kickers. Former US goalie Tony Meola once tried out for the Jets and 2 former Bundesliga players kicked for a couple of years in NFLE. One of them actually did it at age 52 ... and heīs 4th on the all-time Bundesliga goalscoring list. Both of them actually won the World Bowl.
Med, did you go from football in HS to soccer in College?
Master___Pain
06-25-2007, 07:32 PM
I need some help understanding a few things here...the following voted for NU.
Cohiba Bronco, dark_hawk, Dendave, Evenrude, Florida_Bronco, maher_tyler, rbackfactory80, whatsgolden
3 of them are straight homers for all things NU so I understand why they voted the way they did. rbackfactory80 voted for every team, so I'm not so curious as to why he voted that way. So, to the rest of these dudes that voted NU, please elaborate on why NU? Obviously, Lincoln would be the last place I'd spend 4-5 years of my life. One weekend is enough. And before any says "Well have you ever been there?" Yes, I have. A few times.
CSU Husker
06-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Cornhuskers have less success in the NFL than Buffaloes, no doubt about it.
38 NFL players for NU compaired to 24 for CU. Best CU Players - Dan Graham, Chris Brown and a few pretty good O-linemen. Best NU players - Mike Brown, Ahman Green, Mike Minter, Mike Rucker. All of the NU players have pro bowl apperances, none for the CU players (off the top of my head). The arguement looks pretty clear to me.
Would you like to retract your statement?
CSU Husker
06-25-2007, 08:06 PM
To answer the question asked in the thread, I would probably be interested in Michigan, LSU, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Penn State. To pick one without visiting and really seeing what its like behind the scenes is pretty much impossible. But I would want to go to a school with rich tradition and a chance to win a NC.
Everyone rags on Nebraska saying their isnt anything to do, but they dont think like a blue chip athlete. The typical college football players in their free time like to party, meet good looking women, etc. Not kayak, hike and moutain bike, thats what 30 something year old accountants like to do.
Master___Pain
06-25-2007, 08:14 PM
To answer the question asked in the thread, I would probably be interested in Michigan, LSU, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Penn State. To pick one without visiting and really seeing what its like behind the scenes is pretty much impossible. But I would want to go to a school with rich tradition and a chance to win a NC.
Everyone rags on Nebraska saying their isnt anything to do, but they dont think like a blue chip athlete. The typical college football players in their free time like to party, meet good looking women, etc. Not kayak, hike and moutain bike, thats what 30 something year old accountants like to do.
It's funny, the only people even attempting to defend Nebraska as a place to go are Cornhusker fans.
CSU Husker
06-25-2007, 08:18 PM
It's funny, the only people even attempting to defend Nebraska as a place to go are Cornhusker fans.
They get blue chippers consistently, so there must be something to our argument, eh?
Master___Pain
06-25-2007, 08:23 PM
They get blue chippers consistently, so there must be something to our argument, eh?
What is the argument?
That there's nothing to do but party and hang out with chicks? Cause that's all you've presented. I understand that every NU fan thinks that NU is the holy grail of football. My question is, to those that don't sleep with a NU binkie, why would you choose that school?
CSU Husker
06-25-2007, 08:29 PM
What is the argument?
That there's nothing to do but party and hang out with chicks? Cause that's all you've presented. I understand that every NU fan thinks that NU is the holy grail of football. My question is, to those that don't sleep with a NU binkie, why would you choose that school?
Thats what college kids do, is party, thats my argument. So Buff fans sit here and gripe "I dont know why these kids go to NU, that place sucks" blah blah blah. But year in year out NU has significantly better recruiting classes than CU. Its because they dont give a flying eff about how pretty a campus is or that there are great hiking trails, as you guys are always touting. Well, it may be a factor but its WAY down the list.
And if I wasnt an NU guy, I would think that the tradition, facilities, and game day atmosphere would be a reason to go there. Notice I didnt say I would go there if I was a blue chipper, it would be on my list but I cant honestly say.
Rock Chalk
06-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Football I'd go to Texas.
Basketball thats a no-brainer. Rock Chalk!
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 11:12 PM
rbackfactory80 voted for every team.
Ohhh! I didn't need to hear that.
I was happy he voted for CSU, it looked like the Rams might get shut out. Now I realize you're correct, and for all intents and purposes, the Rams have been shut out.
Master___Pain
06-25-2007, 11:15 PM
Ohhh! I didn't need to hear that.
I was happy he voted for CSU, it looked like the Rams might get shut out. Now I realize you're correct, and for all intents and purposes, the Rams have been shut out.
Well come on now Buff, if this was not a board with a heavy Colorado posting basis both CU and CSU would probably not have a vote. Sad but true.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 11:45 PM
38 NFL players for NU compaired to 24 for CU. Best CU Players - Dan Graham, Chris Brown and a few pretty good O-linemen. Best NU players - Mike Brown, Ahman Green, Mike Minter, Mike Rucker. All of the NU players have pro bowl apperances, none for the CU players (off the top of my head). The arguement looks pretty clear to me.
Would you like to retract your statement?
Nope. Not unless you give me some serious facts to work with.
Your claim is too vague to understand. Did you really honestly say "off the top of my head .... looks clear to me"?! Uhh ::) :oyvey:
Well, let's clarify, for the sake of the top of MY head, please: Are you saying there are 38 Huskers currently on NFL rosters? And just 24 Buffs? If that's what you're saying, I think you're fudging the numbers - because this site says 27: http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=2&csid=127251&nid=83&yr=2006
Don't just say something, Bugeater, gimme some link to go to, and don't fudge the numbers please. Nobody's arguing which school has the better overall program, just which school produces better pros.
And you didn't read my point particularly closely, because I limited the time frame back to 1982, when NFL.com's draft stats begin. More specifically though, in my original thread (that I was clearly referencing) from a couple weeks ago, I made clear that I stopped gathering info in about 2002-033, because those players have yet to complete NFL service (go back on the drop-down menu on the link above to '2002' and '2003', there are 30+ Buffs. If we could go back into the 90s, we would surpass you I am certain). But far from this being a "convenient" limitation interposed here as a way to win our small argument, this 2002/03 limitation caused me some real embarassment when SoCalBronco pointed out the overwhelming number of 2002 Miami vs. Florida players (and later in a PM, the Fla State wide right game from the same year) to be markedly better collections of talent than my original thesis game, the 1994 Colorado-Michigan 'Hail Mary' game. I continue to believe that CU-Mich game was the correct answer until about 2001 however. And yes, I checked the 2001 Nebraska-Miami Rose Bowl ... your guys on that roster (with fresh Buffalo cleat marks still not healed on their backs), was the most recent game I thoroughly checked, and your guys did not do all much in the league, at least not for a NC game team.
You might have a handful more players in the league right now, but subtract the last four years, and we're probably tied. Besides, we just had two QBs retire after 10-year NFL careers (Kordell, Koy Detmer). Has Nebraska EVER had a quarterback play 10 years in the league?
Further, in the last 15 years, we've had TWO Thorpe Trophies, TWO Butkus Trophies, a Mackey Award, a Ray Guy Award, an academic Heisman, and a Heisman Trophy ...... wanna top that? Even with your admittedly impressive corn-fed offensive linemen, I'm not sure you can.
PLUS, Mason Crosby got jobbed on the Ray Guy Award in 2005, and Buffalo Bill McCartney won the Bear Bryant Trophy in 1990.
(THORPE: Deon Figures, Chris Hudson, BUTKUS: Alfred Williams, Matt Russell, GUY: Mark Mariscal, ACADEMIC HEISMAN: Jim Hansen. Kyle Vanden Bosch won the Academin Heisman too! ;D MACKEY: Daniel Graham, HEISMAN: Rashaan Salaam)
Florida_Bronco
06-25-2007, 11:55 PM
I need some help understanding a few things here...the following voted for NU.
Cohiba Bronco, dark_hawk, Dendave, Evenrude, Florida_Bronco, maher_tyler, rbackfactory80, whatsgolden
3 of them are straight homers for all things NU so I understand why they voted the way they did. rbackfactory80 voted for every team, so I'm not so curious as to why he voted that way. So, to the rest of these dudes that voted NU, please elaborate on why NU? Obviously, Lincoln would be the last place I'd spend 4-5 years of my life. One weekend is enough. And before any says "Well have you ever been there?" Yes, I have. A few times.
It's a good all around school. Academics and athletics are rated very high. As for Nebraksa itself, I never had trouble finding anything to do in Omaha or Lincoln. The winters suck for sure, but lots of people in Nebraksa like that.
It's not for everyone, but I sure didn't mind living in Nebraska.
BroncoBuff
06-25-2007, 11:59 PM
U-Nebraska at Lincoln does have a top notch agri-business program.
:clown:
Florida_Bronco
06-26-2007, 12:13 AM
U-Nebraska at Lincoln does have a top notch agri-business program.
:clown:
You better just remember who had mercy on you with that avatar bet. :giggle:
Evenrude
06-26-2007, 01:15 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/6877
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4874
So what if the winters are bad? What if you get drafted to play in Green Bay or Buffalo? ::) The facilities, coaching staff, and community support are up there with any IMO.... well the facility and support are facts, the coaching staff is only my opinion.
U-Nebraska at Lincoln does have a top notch agri-business program.
Yet we still charge more for our training table meals..... :kiddingme
BroncoBuff
06-26-2007, 02:06 AM
Yet we still charge more for our training table meals..... :kiddingme
I'll have you know, that was just slight under-charging and apparently ONLY for the walk-ons.
Fair enough, Florida ... news of your mercy has travelled 'cross the land ;D
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 02:28 AM
Nope. Not unless you give me some serious facts to work with.
Your claim is too vague to understand. Did you really honestly say "off the top of my head .... looks clear to me"?! Uhh ::) :oyvey:
Well, let's clarify, for the sake of the top of MY head, please: Are you saying there are 38 Huskers currently on NFL rosters? And just 24 Buffs? If that's what you're saying, I think you're fudging the numbers - because this site says 27: http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=2&csid=127251&nid=83&yr=2006
Don't just say something, Bugeater, gimme some link to go to, and don't fudge the numbers please. Nobody's arguing which school has the better overall program, just which school produces better pros.
And you didn't read my point particularly closely, because I limited the time frame back to 1982, when NFL.com's draft stats begin. More specifically though, in my original thread (that I was clearly referencing) from a couple weeks ago, I made clear that I stopped gathering info in about 2002-033, because those players have yet to complete NFL service (go back on the drop-down menu on the link above to '2002' and '2003', there are 30+ Buffs. If we could go back into the 90s, we would surpass you I am certain). But far from this being a "convenient" limitation interposed here as a way to win our small argument, this 2002/03 limitation caused me some real embarassment when SoCalBronco pointed out the overwhelming number of 2002 Miami vs. Florida players (and later in a PM, the Fla State wide right game from the same year) to be markedly better collections of talent than my original thesis game, the 1994 Colorado-Michigan 'Hail Mary' game. I continue to believe that CU-Mich game was the correct answer until about 2001 however. And yes, I checked the 2001 Nebraska-Miami Rose Bowl ... your guys on that roster (with fresh Buffalo cleat marks still not healed on their backs), was the most recent game I thoroughly checked, and your guys did not do all much in the league, at least not for a NC game team.
You might have a handful more players in the league right now, but subtract the last four years, and we're probably tied. Besides, we just had two QBs retire after 10-year NFL careers (Kordell, Koy Detmer). Has Nebraska EVER had a quarterback play 10 years in the league?
Further, in the last 15 years, we've had TWO Thorpe Trophies, TWO Butkus Trophies, a Mackey Award, a Ray Guy Award, an academic Heisman, and a Heisman Trophy ...... wanna top that? Even with your admittedly impressive corn-fed offensive linemen, I'm not sure you can.
PLUS, Mason Crosby got jobbed on the Ray Guy Award in 2005, and Buffalo Bill McCartney won the Bear Bryant Trophy in 1990.
(THORPE: Deon Figures, Chris Hudson, BUTKUS: Alfred Williams, Matt Russell, GUY: Mark Mariscal, ACADEMIC HEISMAN: Jim Hansen. Kyle Vanden Bosch won the Academin Heisman too! ;D MACKEY: Daniel Graham, HEISMAN: Rashaan Salaam)
Here is your link, smart ass (a simple google search produces these results, its not that difficult)...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/college?letter=n
And my "off the top of my head" comment was only about current CU players and pro bowl apperances, which from what I can tell NONE have been. If Im wrong then correct me, but it looks like NONE of them have been to the pro bowl. Impressive. But CU producers "better pros" though right? But they dont go to the Pro Bowl? Yeah, ok Buffie.
As far as your QB argument, HELLO!!!!! NU ran the option for like 4000 years, if you need further explaination on that topic, let me know.
Congrats on your trophies over the last 15 years. I dont have the run down on NU's over that time frame, but it does include 3 NC's that CU doesnt have.
BroncoBuff
06-26-2007, 02:37 AM
Come on, I'm not tryin to fight here, but my link did say 3 more Buffs in the NFL than you said. And your ESPN site lists Nebraska's "T.J. Hollowell of the Denver Broncos" .... who?!?! And remember, I stopped my count in 2002/03.
You're right about the style of offense, but that's part of who and what Nebraska is - or was. Heck, we ran the wishbone and then the I-Bone for a long time, and we still placed gobs of NFL-ers from that era. Look, there's no doubt which team wins more. Be happy with that.
I pointed out Vanden Bosch winning the academic Heisman! Be honest ... did you know that?
Actually I was just a bit torqued you didn't vote for CSU. It's your NAME, for heaven's sake. I'm not one of those Buffs that hates CSU, I love Sapp and Pears. CSU wouldda been shut out in here if that knucklehead rbfactory hadn't voted for every school listed ... where were you?
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 02:38 AM
Further, in the last 15 years, we've had TWO Thorpe Trophies, TWO Butkus Trophies, a Mackey Award, a Ray Guy Award, an academic Heisman, and a Heisman Trophy ...... wanna top that? Even with your admittedly impressive corn-fed offensive linemen, I'm not sure you can.
After some quick research, in the last 15 years...
1 Heisman (Crouch)
1 Walter Camp (Crouch)
3 Outland Trophies (Shields, Weigert and Taylor)
1 Lombardi (Wistrom)
1 Rimington (Raiola)
1 Davey O'Brien (Crouch)
1 Johnny Unitas (Frazier)
1 Butkus (Alberts)
Looks like NU edges CU in Major Post Season awards. Plus those 3 National Titles I mentioned earlier.
Florida_Bronco
06-26-2007, 02:39 AM
Come on guys, we're Big 12 brothers here.
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 02:41 AM
Actually I was just a bit torqued you didn't vote for CSU. It's your NAME, for heaven's sake. I'm not one of those Buffs that hates CSU, I love Sapp and Pears. CSU wouldda been shut out in here if that knucklehead rbfactory hadn't voted for every school listed ... where were you?
Well, actually I havent voted at all, so its not too late. But honestly, if I was a blue chipper with no preferences, I wouldnt go to CSU. Im realistic.
BroncoBuff
06-26-2007, 02:42 AM
Well, you counted the same guy three times ... Crouch! Rashaan won several other awards too, but I limited listing to just his Heisman.
So, I guess it's 10-10 after all!
With as mighty a program as Nebraska is, I wouldn't be to prioud of a dead heat with CU on trophies and, at least until 2003, NFL players. You guys should be better than that.
And Florida will tell you, I'm not a real NU hater ... we had a long, interesting discussion on out-of-conference schedules last year, and we both learned something ....
A TOAST! To Nebraska going 10-1 this year! Hoo-Rahhh!!! ;D
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 02:44 AM
Well, you counted the same guy three times ... Crouch! Rashaan won several other awards too, but I limited listing to just his Heisman.
So, I guess it's 10-10 after all!
With as mighty a program as Nebraska is, I wouldn't be to prioud of a dead heat with CU on trophies and, at least until 2003, NFL players. You guys should be better than that.
Fair enough, its a tie.
Honestly, I dont pay much attention to trophies, hence why I had to look it up. Results on the field are much more important in my book.
BroncoBuff
06-26-2007, 02:47 AM
Well, you definitely got us there.
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 02:56 AM
Well, you definitely got us there.
That wasnt the road I was trying to go down. I guess I am just tired of hearing Buff fans saying "Lincoln is a sh*t hole, why do kids go there? CU and Boulder is so much better, its so beautiful and so much to do. I would much rather spend 4 years there" etc. I have been hearing this crap for years, its like they cant figure it out that there is some other force, some reason that athletes would actualy want (GASP!!!) to go to UNL.
BroncoBuff
06-26-2007, 03:03 AM
I was at a Lakers game the week of the Rose Bowl just after Christmas '01, and the announcer introduced the fans who "came all the way from Nebraska and are here tonight" The crowd started freaking boooing! I was embarassed as hell, then Shaq got up, turned around and yelled something at the crowd, shaking his hand ... and then he started clapping and everybody clapped. Kind of. I was freaking mortified ... not sure why. You'll never hear me making cracks about small towns or states. Long ago I took the Amtrak from Chicago to Denver .. and as we were going through Lincoln very late at night, I saw a really big lighted red "N" affixed high on a building. So cool, it sent a chill up my spine.
I save my 'hating' for the pros ... Chefs, Fade, Ravens. And of course Red-Wings.
(for CO)
Mediator12
06-26-2007, 08:42 AM
Before you get your hopes up, BB, he never said he saw the field as a kicker at IU. :)
A few have tried to turn soccer players into American football kickers. Former US goalie Tony Meola once tried out for the Jets and 2 former Bundesliga players kicked for a couple of years in NFLE. One of them actually did it at age 52 ... and heīs 4th on the all-time Bundesliga goalscoring list. Both of them actually won the World Bowl.
Med, did you go from football in HS to soccer in College?
Pete Stoyanovich was a great NFL kicker and he was a two way player at Indiana. I was going to try and do the same, but Yeagley said no unless I had a football scholarship. You see, I tackled people on kickoffs. He really did not like that ;D
Club Soccer matters more than highschool for recruiting in the US. Kind of like AAU basketball means more than high school basketball. I did kick in HS, but my scholarship was coming from soccer so when the HS coach got pissed, I stopped the next year.
Master___Pain
06-26-2007, 10:47 AM
That wasnt the road I was trying to go down. I guess I am just tired of hearing Buff fans saying "Lincoln is a sh*t hole, why do kids go there? CU and Boulder is so much better, its so beautiful and so much to do. I would much rather spend 4 years there" etc. I have been hearing this crap for years, its like they cant figure it out that there is some other force, some reason that athletes would actualy want (GASP!!!) to go to UNL.
Lammie, I've yet to see what Buff fan on this thread made that claim. I, personally, could not understand a blue chipper going to NU over USC, Florida, FSU, UM, Michigan, UGA, etc. Different strokes for different folks. I'd still like to get a non-husker to answer the question.
Mr. Trout
06-26-2007, 11:02 AM
Hook em' Horns!!!!!!!
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 12:52 PM
Lammie, I've yet to see what Buff fan on this thread made that claim. I, personally, could not understand a blue chipper going to NU over USC, Florida, FSU, UM, Michigan, UGA, etc. Different strokes for different folks. I'd still like to get a non-husker to answer the question.
The bottom line is that they do go there. I think its pretty funny that people say this like they really cant figure it out. Like they just sit there scratching their head for the last 20 years saying "How the heck do they get them kids to come to that there dern school". Come on man, you arent dumb.
Master___Pain
06-26-2007, 01:02 PM
The bottom line is that they do go there. I think its pretty funny that people say this like they really cant figure it out. Like they just sit there scratching their head for the last 20 years saying "How the heck do they get them kids to come to that there dern school". Come on man, you arent dumb.
Lots of money?
CSU Husker
06-26-2007, 01:24 PM
Lots of money?
Somehow I doubt that could work in the long run, short run perhaps.
dark_hawk
06-26-2007, 09:55 PM
Lots of money?
no thats USC ure thinking of....
BroncoBuff
10-27-2007, 07:32 PM
Good time to bump ....
The 5-star HS recruit example to start this thread - JON MAJOR - committed to the Colorado Buffaloes today, just before the Buffaloes beat Texas Tech in Lubbock to finish the year 3-0 against the Big XII South.
And my own college choice in this poll - OREGON - jumped into national championship contention by beating Southern Cal.
Today was a good day.
chickennob2
10-28-2007, 02:21 AM
MIT.
Trust me, I've been to a few of our football games. You would be starting from the second you set foot on campus. Unfortunately, Div-III means no athletic scholarships. So you'd have to take loans out the ass like the rest of us.
Whichever one made me the best financial offer, which means I'd likely end up somewhere in the SEC.
If you asked Reggie Bush, the answer would be USC without a doubt. He and his family made a small fortune:giggle:
missingnumber7
10-28-2007, 03:37 AM
North Dakota State...Hands down...tradition...and an actually playoff no bowl crap.
ak1971
10-28-2007, 04:13 AM
probably whoever gives them the biggest bankroll.....
ak1971
10-28-2007, 04:15 AM
If you asked Reggie Bush, the answer would be USC without a doubt. He and his family made a small fortune:giggle:
amen...these guys go to school to get paid,plain and simple. Its not about education..i think its spelled edum$$$$$cation to most college football players
GSRelyea
10-28-2007, 07:31 AM
UNC--- Butch Davis, up and coming program, great school, and I could start as a freshman (this year). Not to mention the girls...... you have NC State & Duke plus a womens college all within 15 miles of eachother and the beach is only an hour drive.
Arkansas Bronco
10-28-2007, 08:45 AM
Im not reading all 5 pages but when are most of you going to really get it that the SEC is it. We have 7 of the top 25 stadiums (that holds the most people). Fact is if you make it out of the SEC perfect or 1 loss you deserve the NC game. Most of you guys that dont see many SEC games dont get it but we are stacked from top to bottom.
Los Broncos
10-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Norte Dame
BroncoBuff
10-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Norte Dame
Rememebr to take spellig 101 at Norte Dame.
;D
penguintheory
10-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Leland Stanford, Jr. University 24
University of South Central 23
Los Broncos
10-28-2007, 07:16 PM
Rememebr to take spellig 101 at Norte Dame.
;D
Duh, im gonna go hide my head in the sand.
TiZZaH
10-29-2007, 10:40 AM
USC or one of the Florida schools...
The girls there are way hotter and easy pickins for a 5 star recruit. =)
Beantown Bronco
10-29-2007, 10:48 AM
USC or one of the Florida schools...
The girls there are way hotter and easy pickins for a 5 star recruit. =)
I can understand deciding based off the weather, location, city/country, etc. but the "hot girl" argument has to go out the window when you are a 5 star recruit. I mean, c'mon. If you are in that position and can't get 10 times the amount of "5 star" quality @ss at ANY university in the country, you've got bigger issues on your hands.
Rohirrim
10-29-2007, 11:09 AM
If I made the decision based on prestige and future earnings: Harvard.
If I made the decision based on babealiciousness: USC.