US reports 68 al Qaeda militants killed in Iraq

[Chupacabra]

Don't think this was posted. And I know most ppl on here would hate to see a tiny bit of good news coming from Iraq, but here goes it:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/22/iraq.main/index.html

[cutthemdown]

Not me I was waiting for someone to post it. I was curious to how long it would take to make it on. Sadly if the topic was a bunch of American soldiers get heads cut off it would have been posted within 2 seconds. I'm not sure why people are so willing to give up so early and call the war lost. We need to kill these Al queda terrorist and Iraq is as good a place to do that as anywhere.

[TheDave]

woo hoo...

[ant1999e]

Ask the 100 billion trillion innocent iraqis who we've killed if they think it's good news. You damn war mongers love to kill those good old al qaeda freedom fighters. It's the United States fault they hate us.:stirstir:

[spdirty]

Good.

[Spider]

better 68 of them then ours but quit the ****ing lying.........they wasnt al qadea

[DBruleU]

better 68 of them then ours but quit the ****ing lying.........they wasnt al qadea

As if it really matters any longer. They are all the same now.

[gunns]

How wonderful! Did they check their wallets to verify they were card carrying Al Queda? How about the 20 unidentified bodies? Did they check their wallets to see if they might be Al Queda too? Maybe one of them was a high ranking Al Queda.....who is killed for the 4th or 5th time.

[Chupacabra]

Ask the 100 billion trillion innocent iraqis who we've killed if they think it's good news. You damn war mongers love to kill those good old al qaeda freedom fighters. It's the United States fault they hate us.:stirstir:

Yes, I do love to kill al Queda terrorists. Do you remember 9/11?

[Chupacabra]

"good old al qaeda freedom fighters"

Are you an American?

[gunns]

"good old al qaeda freedom fighters"

Are you an American?

Um, I think he was being sarcastic. Note: stir the pot.

[Chupacabra]

Um, I think he was being sarcastic. Note: stir the pot.

Sarcasm doesn't work for me when referring to the cowardly monsters who killed so many innocent civilians.

[ant1999e]

Um, I think he was being sarcastic. Note: stir the pot.

Thanks for the explination.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

How wonderful! Did they check their wallets to verify they were card carrying Al Queda? How about the 20 unidentified bodies? Did they check their wallets to see if they might be Al Queda too? Maybe one of them was a high ranking Al Queda.....who is killed for the 4th or 5th time.The sunnis have "sunni" tattooed on their forehead, al qaida... al qaida, kurds...kurd, insurgents...insurgent, etc, etc...
. I'm not sure why people are so willing to give up so early and call the war lost. They need all the help they can get over there, if you don't want to fight them you can go drive a truck or something.

[Spider]

"good old al qaeda freedom fighters"

Are you an American?
you are a ****ing Idiot ..........
Iknow you pissed all over yourself making this thread , but after the way the Military lied to the Tillman family , lied about Jessica Lynch , Abu Grahib The lies the recruiters tell , only a complete ****ing idiot would believe anything they say

[Crushaholic]

I'm glad it appears that we are finally getting help from people who know that land the best.

[Spider]

Sarcasm doesn't work for me when referring to the cowardly monsters who killed so many innocent civilians.

you are going to have a hard time going through life so stupid ... you better wake up , and fast .......China invades America , we take up arms and fight back are we terrorist or Freedom fighters ? We are held up near a church , we see the Chinese army , we have a tactical advantage to take em out , but civilians to scared to join us in our fight for OUR freedom are around , do we engage ? or do we respect those that we consider cowards ?

[cutthemdown]

Trying to say that someone should sign up and go fight if they support the war to me is the lamest argument there is. I could just as easily say if your so agianst it you should go on strike and refuse to work until they bring troops home. Some sort of Ghandi like move where you don't eat or something. Just complaining does less then my just supporting.

[Spider]

Trying to say that someone should sign up and go fight if they support the war to me is the lamest argument there is. I could just as easily say if your so agianst it you should go on strike and refuse to work until they bring troops home. Some sort of Ghandi like move where you don't eat or something. Just complaining does less then my just supporting.

I have joined peace marches , but I have to say if you support the war , you really should sign up , some of those guys have been there along time , the more people that join , the better the rotation ....... if you support , then support fully not half assed

[cutthemdown]

Spider I think you joining up and then refusing to fight would send a way stronger message.

[Spider]

Spider I think you joining up and then refusing to fight would send a way stronger message.

well you are not paid to think ......... I have 7 people depending on me , I cant let em down , now you tell me how signing up then refusing to go sends a message other then I am a confused bastard ........... Seriously think before you spew

[Chupacabra]

you are a ****ing Idiot ..........
Iknow you pissed all over yourself making this thread , but after the way the Military lied to the Tillman family , lied about Jessica Lynch , Abu Grahib The lies the recruiters tell , only a complete ****ing idiot would believe anything they say

Much like you piss all over yourself when American soldiers die so you have more to bitch about.

I don't buy the bs "if you support the war you should go fight."

I support the troops. And that is why I'm going to go fight.

[Spider]

Much like you piss all over yourself when American soldiers die so you have more to b**** about.

I don't buy the bs "if you support the war you should go fight."

I support the troops. And that is why I'm going to go fight.

well then be off with your stupid ass .........

[gunns]

Much like you piss all over yourself when American soldiers die so you have more to b**** about.

I don't buy the bs "if you support the war you should go fight."

I support the troops. And that is why I'm going to go fight.

No kidding. I mean what the hell are people b******* about when troops die.

And they're dying for what again?

[Spider]

No kidding. I mean what the hell are people b******* about when troops die.

And they're dying for what again?
so he can celebrate good news out of Iraq

[ant1999e]

I have joined peace marches , but I have to say if you support the war , you really should sign up , some of those guys have been there along time , the more people that join , the better the rotation ....... if you support , then support fully not half assed

Alot of them volunteer to go. I have three close relatives all from wyoming who are there or on their way.

[Spider]

Alot of them volunteer to go. I have three close relatives all from wyoming who are there or on their way.

I know they do , doesnt change the reasons though ... Hate to see good people used in a bullshít war ....... I wish your kin a safe journey ........

[Chupacabra]

No kidding. I mean what the hell are people b******* about when troops die.

And they're dying for what again?

They are dying for the brothers that are fighting next to them. Many of them do not agree with the war, but they recognize that they have fellow countrymen dying.

[Chupacabra]

No kidding. I mean what the hell are people b******* about when troops die.

And they're dying for what again?

I think you should talk to them.

I think it's more than okay to bitch about troops dying. I never said it wasn't. I was pointing out that some people root for failure just to push their ideology. Also, I don't like that the good news from Iraq isn't talked about. Great men and women are fighting for their lives and losing their best friends to accomplish the missions that YOU refuse to acknowledge.

[TailgateNut]

I think you should talk to them.

I think it's more than okay to b**** about troops dying. I never said it wasn't. I was pointing out that some people root for failure just to push their ideology. Also, I don't like that the good news from Iraq isn't talked about. Great men and women are fighting for their lives and losing their best friends to accomplish the missions that YOU refuse to acknowledge.


Show me someone who is "rooting for failure". There is no need to root for failure because this plan has been a failure from the beginning. The republican place two failures in the White House in 2000 and then repeated the mistake in 2004. They are the ones' who "rooted for failure"!

[Chupacabra]

Show me someone who is "rooting for failure". There is no need to root for failure because this plan has been a failure from the beginning. The republican place two failures in the White House in 2000 and then repeated the mistake in 2004. They are the ones' who "rooted for failure"!

Not commenting on the failures of the current administration...I'd say that I voted/rooted for the only candidate with a spine.

[TailgateNut]

Not commenting on the failures of the current administration...I'd say that I voted/rooted for the only candidate with a spine.

You voted for Kerry! Good Man!

[Rigs11]

Yes, I do love to kill al Queda terrorists. Do you remember 9/11?

Oh you mean when we were attacked by Iraq?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Oh you mean when we were attacked by Iraq?

:D

Repeat it often enough and it will sound like the truth. (The key to being a Bush supporter.)

[Chupacabra]

Oh you mean when we were attacked by Iraq?

Is that what I said?

[Chupacabra]

:D

Repeat it often enough and it will sound like the truth. (The key to being a Bush supporter.)

Altho I do support Bush...where in this thread have I expressed that?

[Chupacabra]

I really do hate using material created directly by the GOP...but this video is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE

[Barry Ramey]

Yeah, I think those that believe people that support the war should sign up themselves should in turn, since they root against our troops and think the worst of this country, renounce their citizenship and move to a new country and never set foot in the U.S. ever again. That seems like a fair trade off.

[Rigs11]

Yeah, I think those that believe people that support the war should sign up themselves should in turn, since they root against our troops and think the worst of this country, renounce their citizenship and move to a new country and never set foot in the U.S. ever again. That seems like a fair trade off.

What a moron. Please think before you type. We support our troops genius, that's why we want them brought home so they stop dying. You support them and want them to stay and die?I bet you feel like a true patriot right? Going along with whatever your corrupt government says. If anyone needs to leave it's you for being such grade b 'american'.

[Spider]

I really do hate using material created directly by the GOP...but this video is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE

Hypocrisy ? ROFL! ....... No one doubts Saddam was a bastard , But Sanctions were working obviously ...... you guys on the right pull that shít out like a smoking gun in Defense of BUSH INVADING instead of sanctions , you do understand the difference in sanctions and war right ? ....... Why do you pull shít out of your ass and act like it is fact ?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Yeah, I think those that believe people that support the war should sign up themselves should in turn, since they root against our troops and think the worst of this country, renounce their citizenship and move to a new country and never set foot in the U.S. ever again. That seems like a fair trade off.Not much anyway or you wouldn't post this tripe. But thinking about it, you generally post nothing but Neocon garbage so it's not out of range for you.

[Chupacabra]

Hypocrisy ? ROFL! ....... No one doubts Saddam was a bastard , But Sanctions were working obviously ...... you guys on the right pull that shít out like a smoking gun in Defense of BUSH INVADING instead of sanctions , you do understand the difference in sanctions and war right ? ....... Why do you pull shít out of your ass and act like it is fact ?

I suppose its similar to you pulling **** out of your mouth and acting like its talking points.

The video clearly demonstrates that there was bipartisan support for the decision to take Sadaam out. 3 Democratic Presidential candidates all in support. Hillary says she supports the president's decision as its in the country's best interest, this was only echoed by her vote to goto Iraq. Edwards, in reference to his membership on the intelligence committee, saying that Sadaam has WMDs. And Biden, concurring that Sadaam, if not already, is working to obtain WMDs. Not to mention Harry Reid's support of the president.

I think Bush hits the nail on the head when he says it is irresponsible to rewrite the history of how this war began.

[Chupacabra]

Spider, since you are so intelligent and know far more than I... Grace us with your wisdom and inform us of what YOU would have done given the same intelligence that Edwards & co. recieved. Also, what would you do right now?

And for once, cut the over abundance of smileys, insults, cursing, and personal attacks. Please stick to content.

[Spider]

Spider, since you are so intelligent and know far more than I... Grace us with your wisdom and inform us of what YOU would have done given the same intelligence that Edwards & co. recieved. Also, what would you do right now? Sanctions ........ I probably would have closed the noose on the oil for food program .......

And for once, cut the over abundance of smileys, insults, cursing, and personal attacks. Please stick to content.
**** off you little twirp , you dont like it Put me on Ignore ......
get it ?
got it ?
good...............but you nailed it , you are an Idiot .. That isnt my fault , and if you cant handle me pointing out that you are an Idiot , then stop posting like one ........

[Chupacabra]

Sanctions ........ I probably would have closed the noose on the oil for food program .......


**** off you little twirp , you dont like it Put me on Ignore ......
get it ?
got it ?
good...............but you nailed it , you are an Idiot .. That isnt my fault , and if you cant handle me pointing out that you are an Idiot , then stop posting like one ........

I never called you stupid because you have a different opinion from me... I just thought it.

[Spider]

I never called you stupid because you have a different opinion from me... I just thought it.
as if I care , what some Idiot thinks of me ..........

[The Lone Bolt]

Altho I do support Bush...where in this thread have I expressed that?


According to LABF, everyone who doesn't completely believe that Bush is a liar and pure evil is a "Bush supporter." That should clear things up!

[Spider]

I suppose its similar to you pulling **** out of your mouth and acting like its talking points.

The video clearly demonstrates that there was bipartisan support for the decision to take Sadaam out. 3 Democratic Presidential candidates all in support. Hillary says she supports the president's decision as its in the country's best interest, this was only echoed by her vote to goto Iraq. Edwards, in reference to his membership on the intelligence committee, saying that Sadaam has WMDs. And Biden, concurring that Sadaam, if not already, is working to obtain WMDs. Not to mention Harry Reid's support of the president.

I think Bush hits the nail on the head when he says it is irresponsible to rewrite the history of how this war began.
see this is why you are an Idiot , there was no by partisan support ..... , but there are different ways to take someone out ..........Bush is a ****ing liar , never did anything in his life but fail , and he failed at this

[Spider]

even Poppy Bush had more sense , getting the people to rise up and over throw their Leader is the best way , Sanctions work wonders .........

[The Lone Bolt]

even Poppy Bush had more sense , getting the people to rise up and over throw their Leader is the best way , Sanctions work wonders .........

We tried that. At the end of the first gulf war we encouraged the Shia to rise up and Saddam crushed them. Don't most of the current critics of the war also criticize the U.S. for encouraging this revolt and/or not supporting it militarily?

Also, Saddam may have been a worthless general but he was a brilliant thug. He had an iron grip on power which was never going to loosen. He had people close to him executed if he even suspected them of disloyalty. He would sleep in a different palace every night. He had multiple body-doubles and always went different routes with decoys taking alternate routes. Many coups were supported by: the U.S. (twice), the Iranians, the Israelis, and the Syrians. All failed because Saddam was uttrerly ruthless and paranoid.

And I see you are still clinging to the ridiculous fairy tale that the containment policy could have been maintained forever and ever. It was falling apart and would have disappeared within a couple of years. It was totally beyond repair. Do your homework. Once again, I recommend The Threatening Storm by Ken Pollack, the chapter entitled "The Erosion of Containment" for details.

[Spider]

We tried that. At the end of the first gulf war we encouraged the Shia to rise up and Saddam crushed them. Don't most of the current critics of the war also criticize the U.S. for encouraging this revolt and/or not supporting it militarily?
do I give a rats ass what the majority of People support ?
Sanctions were working ........

Also, Saddam may have been a worthless general but he was a brilliant thug. He had an iron grip on power which was never going to loosen. He had people close to him executed if he even suspected them of disloyalty. He would sleep in a different palace every night. He had multiple body-doubles and always went different routes with decoys taking alternate routes. Many coups were supported by: the U.S. (twice), the Iranians, the Israelis, and the Syrians. All failed because Saddam was uttrerly ruthless and paranoid.

And I see you are still clinging to the ridiculous fairy tale that the containment policy could have been maintained forever and ever. It was falling apart and would have disappeared within a couple of years. It was totally beyond repair. Do your homework. Once again, I recommend The Threatening Storm by Ken Pollack, the chapter entitled "The Erosion of Containment" for details.
rest of your post is pure bull**** , 5 million people in Baghdad , if they really wanted Saddam gone , he would have been ........ Obviously Sanctions were working Saddam had no air force , no Navy , nothing ........ but people like you love to elevate his power to fantasy levels

[Garcia Bronco]

Hypocrisy ? ROFL! But Sanctions were working obviously ...... ?

No they weren't...he along with memeber UN nations were not following sanctions.

[TailgateNut]

Also, Saddam may have been a worthless general but he was a brilliant thug. He had an iron grip on power which was never going to loosen. He had people close to him executed if he even suspected them of disloyalty. .


Damn, that describes Bush to a T.
Bush is a worthless President but he is a brilliant thug. He has an iron grip on power which is never going to surrender. He has people close to him terminated if he even suspected them of disloyalty

[Spider]

No they weren't...he along with memeber UN nations were not following sanctions.

Bullshít ..........

[The Lone Bolt]

5 million people in Baghdad , if they really wanted Saddam gone , he would have been ........

Easy for you to say when you have never risked being tortured and having your wife and daughters raped in front of you then killed because you simply said something bad about Saddam.

Obviously Sanctions were working Saddam had no air force , no Navy , nothing ........ but people like you love to elevate his power to fantasy levels

Obviously you still don't get it. It doesn't matter if the sanctions had a temporary effect in the past. They were no longer going to exist. They were falling apart and beyond repair. They were soon to be history. What they accomplished up to that point is irrelevant.

And weren't the opponents of the war screaming that the UN sanctions were "terrorism" before the invasion? Now suddenly they're a good idea?:kiddingme

[Spider]

Easy for you to say when you have never risked being tortured and having your wife and daughters raped in front of you then killed because you simply said something bad about Saddam. Stop making excuses , look at the way they are fighting us ......do you even have a clue ?



Obviously you still don't get it. It doesn't matter if the sanctions had a temporary effect in the past. They were no longer going to exist. They were falling apart and beyond repair. They were soon to be history. What they accomplished up to that point is irrelevant. No you are the one that doesnt get it , but if you did , you wouldnt be a chargers fan now would you ? Stupidity runs deep in you ..

And weren't the opponents of the war screaming that the UN sanctions were "terrorism" before the invasion? Now suddenly they're a good idea?:kiddingme
you twit , show me where i have ever said Sanctions were a bad idea ...... I dont give a damn what others think and I wont answer for them , just my post ........ stop being stupid

[The Lone Bolt]

Damn, that describes Bush to a T.
Bush is a worthless President but he is a brilliant thug. He has an iron grip on power which is never going to surrender. He has people close to him terminated if he even suspected them of disloyalty

Really? Who has bush had executed? How many American citizens has bush had tortured and raped? Do you know anybody personally? I'll bet most Iraqis has a friend or family member who was tortured or disappeared under Saddam's regime.

Do you risk torture or murder for any critcism of bush? If so, aren't you afraid of being tortured now?

Is bush president for life? Will he still be in office in ten or twenty years? Has he crushed all dissent?

Yeah, real accurate comparison.:thumbs:

[The Lone Bolt]

Stop making excuses , look at the way they are fighting us ......do you even have a clue ?

Do you? It's easy for you to speculate that the Iraqis could have overthrown Saddam on their own when you are enjoying freedoms and rights that they never had. It's easy to suggest that they could have risen up and overthrown him when you yourself have never had to live under such a brutal regime. I guarantee living in a country were anybody could be an informant and one bad word against Saddam could get you fed feet-first into a meat grinder would definitely change your tune.


you twit , show me where i have ever said Sanctions were a bad idea ...... I dont give a damn what others think and I wont answer for them , just my post ........ stop being stupid

Fair enough, but many who oppose the war were also against the sanctions until they had nothing to fall back on in terms of alternatives. Then suddenly the sanctions were no longer "terrorism."

[Spider]

Do you? It's easy for you to speculate that the Iraqis could have overthrown Saddam on their own when you are enjoying freedoms and rights that they never had. It's easy to suggest that they could have risen up and overthrown him when you yourself have never had to live under such a brutal regime. I guarantee living in a country were anybody could be an informant and one bad word against Saddam could get you fed feet-first into a meat grinder would definitely change your tune.
if Bull**** was music you would be the entire brass section , you dont rule over 5 million people with a dictatorship ,and Saddams resources unless they want to be ruled ..........here is a tip for you take look at whats going on in Iraq right now ......... but the world needs idiots , and you are doing your part in the world




Fair enough, but many who oppose the war were also against the sanctions until they had nothing to fall back on in term of alternatives. Then suddenly the sanctions were no longer "terrorism."
do i have ot draw you a picture ? look people will bitch just about everything , but this fantasy you have about Saddams power is just a fantasy ... Iraqi people are sheep that want ot be led ,they never had freedom , they dont want the responsibility that comes with .............

[The Lone Bolt]

if Bull**** was music you would be the entire brass section , you dont rule over 5 million people with a dictatorship ,and Saddams resources unless they want to be ruled ..........here is a tip for you take look at whats going on in Iraq right now ......... but the world needs idiots , and you are doing your part in the world

Jeez you are seriously clueless. Look into the Ghestapo. How many actual members were there?

Numbers aren't necessary to rule such a populace. Absolute terror is an effective substitute. The reason that we are unable to control the Iraqis as well as Saddam is that we are nowhere near as utterly, sadistically ruthless as he was. If we were we would be rounding up people for mass executions, ruthlessly torturing anyone who opposed us in any way (hint: lots of anti-US protests have occurred in Iraq since the occupation began. Would they have been allowed to protest against Saddam when he was in power?), and repressing any hint of free speech.


do i have ot draw you a picture ? look people will b**** just about everything , but this fantasy you have about Saddams power is just a fantasy ... Iraqi people are sheep that want ot be led ,they never had freedom , they dont want the responsibility that comes with .............

Not only an ignorant statement but possibly a racist one.

[Spider]

Jeez you are seriously clueless. Look into the Ghestapo. How many actual members were there?
you twit , Hitler had planes , tanks , good grief ....... yo uare making this too easy .......

Numbers aren't necessary to rule such a populace. Absolute terror is an effective substitute. The reason that we are unable to control the Iraqis as well as Saddam is that we are nowhere near as utterly, sadistically ruthless as he was. If we were we would be rounding up people for mass executions, ruthlessly torturing anyone who opposed us in any way (hint: lots of anti-US protests have occurreed in Iraq since the occupation began. Would they have been allowed to protest against Saddam when he was in power?), and repressing any hint of free speech.




Not only an ignorant statement but possibly a racist one.
more lame excuses ......... Look you are an Idiot , no getting around that , accept the fact that you are as thick as a brick wall and move on , save yourself alot of aggravation

[Chupacabra]

you twit , Hitler had planes , tanks , good grief ....... yo uare making this too easy .......


more lame excuses ......... Look you are an Idiot , no getting around that , accept the fact that you are as thick as a brick wall and move on , save yourself alot of aggravation

You are making yourself and your liberal colleagues look bad. I've heard better argument from my 5th grade cousin who shares your views of the war. Your posts lack any evidence and content. Your reliance on insults and generalizations is almost comical.

Please, someone else take over for Spider...he is a terrible representative of the left wing.

[Spider]

You are making yourself and your liberal colleagues look bad. I've heard better argument from my 5th grade cousin who shares your views of the war. Your posts lack any evidence and content. Your reliance on insults and generalizations is almost comical.

Please, someone else take over for Spider...he is a terrible representative of the left wing.

LOL try reading ..... your boy Lonebolt is the one that brought Hitler and germany into it ...... you can follow along cant you ?
How stupid can you guys on the right be comparing Hitler and Saddam ?
How stupid is it to compare the military might of the 3 rd riech to Saddams elite guard ? Hilarious!
Here is a suggestion instead of sucking goats , try reading

[Chupacabra]

LOL try reading ..... your boy Lonebolt is the one that brought Hitler and germany into it ...... you can follow along cant you ?
How stupid can you guys on the right be comparing Hitler and Saddam ?
How stupid is it to compare the military might of the 3 rd riech to Saddams elite guard ? Hilarious!
Here is a suggestion instead of sucking goats , try reading

I never commented on Lonebolt's comparison or any of his post.

More of your insults and smileys. LOL
I can't wait until you break your own record.

[Spider]

I never commented on Lonebolt's comparison or any of his post.

More of your insults and smileys. LOL
I can't wait until you break your own record.
well stupid , that what I was replying to , and you commented on it ......... admit it , you didnt read anything , just chimed in ........ Living with mommy and Daddy not tasting the real world , thinking you have a clue ........you are just another dumbass kid thinking he knows something .......

[Chupacabra]

well stupid , that what I was replying to , and you commented on it ......... admit it , you didnt read anything , just chimed in ........ Living with mommy and Daddy not tasting the real world , thinking you have a clue ........you are just another dumbass kid thinking he knows something .......

Not that you asked...but I pay my way. Thanks :)

[Spider]

Not that you asked...but I pay my way. Thanks :)

;D found that out in the other thread ....... but either way , stay safe , and despite popular belief , I do support the troops ......... I send a few cell phones , but except for last year , I ran it over with my 18 wheeler ........