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Hotrod
06-22-2007, 06:14 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56305

The full, five-minute videotape touted as "smoking gun evidence" of two felonies committed by Sen. Hillary Clinton has been released to WND.

As WND reported, the tape was submitted as evidence to a California appeals court yesterday in a civil fraud suit against the New York Democrat and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

WND reported in April the tape indicates Clinton – despite denials throughout six years of investigation – was directly involved with business mogul Peter Franklin Paul in producing a lavish Hollywood fundraiser in August 2000 that eventually cost Paul nearly $2 million.

Clinton's participation in the planning of the event would make Paul's substantial contributions a direct donation to her Senate campaign rather than her joint fundraising committee, violating federal statutes that limit "hard money" contributions to a candidate to $2,000 per person. Knowingly accepting or soliciting $25,000 or more in a calendar year is a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to five years.

Paul's complaint charges President Clinton destroyed his entertainment company to get out of a $17 million deal in which Clinton promised to promote the firm in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to foot the bill for the Hollywood event

In the tape, Clinton is heard via speakerphone thanking Paul, business partner Stan Lee and other colleagues for their efforts in putting together the fundraiser.

She also describes the role of longtime aide Kelly Craighead as assisting in day-to-day involvement in preparation for the event as her liaison with Paul and his producers.


Peter Paul and Sen. Hillary Clinton (Courtesy Hillcap.org)

Craighead, Clinton says, "talks all the time" with Paul, "so she'll be the person to convey whatever I need."

The aide's hands-on role is significant, because the law also implicates a candidate if any of his or her agents are involved in coordinating expenditures with a donor.

In another portion of the tape, Clinton is heard discussing her direct solicitation of a large contribution from the entertainer Cher. Paul's legal team argues the value of Cher's performance alone vastly exceeded the FEC limits.

The tape was one of 90 Paul was ordered to turn over to the U.S. attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York in 2001 as part of the investigation in a related securities case against him. But it has never been used as evidence, despite its relevance to the key question of Sen. Clinton's involvement in the Hollywood fundraiser.

Sen. Clinton has claimed through her spokesman Howard Wolfson that Paul gave no money to her campaign, and her supporters have denied she had any anything to do with coordinating the fund-raiser or soliciting contributions directly from donors.

Clinton's campaign has counted the more than $800,000 of in-kind contributions it reported in a 2006 amended FEC report for the Hollywood Gala as indirect, or "soft money," given to the New York Senate 2000 Committee, a state account that was run jointly by Clinton, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and the New York State Democratic Party.

The Clintons' longtime attorney David Kendall has not replied to WND's request for comment on Paul's videotape. Kendall previously has declined comment on the case, saying only to WND regarding the felony assertion, "Any such allegation is totally false and totally unsupported."

Bronco_Beerslug
06-22-2007, 06:17 PM
Is Billary going to the big house.....haha she could beUh, no.

Hotrod
06-22-2007, 06:19 PM
Uh, no.

Prolly not but she probebly should. Looks like she is a liar and a cheater

Bronco_Beerslug
06-22-2007, 06:21 PM
Prolly not but she probebly should. Looks like she is a liar and a cheaterMight be but would probably have to build a whole new "big house" to hold all of them.

Hotrod
06-22-2007, 06:23 PM
Might be but would probably have to build a whole new "big house" to hold all of them.

Agreed

Its not going to change either. As long as they are each bought and paid for the will of Joe Citizen will play second fiddle to special interest groups & billionaires

JPEZ
06-22-2007, 09:52 PM
Prolly not but she probebly should. Looks like she is a liar and a cheater

WOW! JUST WOW!
Who woulda thunk it?! Hillary a liar and a cheat?! maybe one but not both!? ??? I thought only the GOP did things like that!

codeman
06-22-2007, 11:19 PM
IF they determine to send her up I hope it happens before the next election.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 12:26 AM
Well, it looks like they'll have to pull out all of the stops to spin that one to keep Billary in the election.

BroncoBuff
06-23-2007, 02:07 AM
Prolly not but she probebly should. Looks like she is a liar and a cheater

From a lawyer's perspective, it all comes down to: The precise definitions of the words "planning" and "participating." And that's making the eyes-squeezed-closed leap of assumption that this fine reporter has quoted the statute correctly.

But, despite WorldNetDaily and Hotod's breathless reportings of this "issue" (;D), if the story had any legs at all, it would be splashed all over every two-bit broadsheet and tabloid from Key West to Fairbanks by now.

There's a 'vast right wing conspiracy,' you know. And they DO HAVE telephone numbers of reporters they can call.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 02:51 AM
From a lawyer's perspective, it all comes down to: The precise definitions of the words "planning" and "participating." And that's making the eyes-squeezed-closed leap of assumption that this fine reporter has quoted the statute correctly.


LOL

It depends on what your definition of "is" is. Part two? We shall see. Absolutely disgusting political practices by Billary.

spdirty
06-23-2007, 10:02 AM
damnit I want her to get the nomination first.

defenseman
06-23-2007, 10:33 AM
damnit I want her to get the nomination first.

Yep, then snap the trap shut, and hard......we'll see...I'm waiting for 'all' the evidence to hit the street before I buy in. I'm SURE, hillabrooms side of the fence will pull something out of thin air on this one in an attempt to divert...dman

Spider
06-23-2007, 02:59 PM
we will see , I wish they had her face on tape instead of voice ....... this could be fake as hell , the swift boat vets taught us , we shouldnt believe anything during a campaign race .........

Crushaholic
06-23-2007, 03:21 PM
No, she won't go to jail for being a liar and a cheat. I think that's part of the job description to be a politician. However, she SHOULD go to jail for this monstrosity...:spit:

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epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 04:39 PM
No, she won't go to jail for being a liar and a cheat. I think that's part of the job description to be a politician. However, she SHOULD go to jail for this monstrosity...:spit:



AAAAHHHHH!!!! :rofl:

That's funny.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 04:40 PM
we shouldnt believe anything during a campaign race .........


At least, anything that comes from Dan Rather.

Spider
06-23-2007, 04:44 PM
At least, anything that comes from Dan Rather.

Dan Rather , perhaps but there is no denting the fact Bush didnt serve his full term and didnt show up for physicals ...... the swift boat liars werent close on anything ....... they lied about everything

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 05:04 PM
the swift boat liars werent close on anything ....... they lied about everything

Dan Rather proved to us just how unbiased the national press is.

Spider
06-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Dan Rather proved to us just how unbiased the national press is.

you know better then Bullshít me ....... save it for some of your fellow idiots , in a neo con circle jerk .....you cut out the meat of my quote and posted this crap ........

Spider
06-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Dont **** with me on this , you know damn well the so called liberal Media supported Bush in Iraqi war , didnt report a lot of stuff until weeks later .... shít can the blaming of the press , that dog doesnt hunt anymore

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2007, 05:15 PM
you know better then Bullshít me ....... save it for some of your fellow idiots , in a neo con circle jerk .....you cut out the meat of my quote and posted this crap ........

What do you expect when you present a hypocritical opinion? You complain about a special interest group and ignore the most blatant special interest in the country.

Spider
06-23-2007, 05:18 PM
What do you expect when you present a hypocritical opinion? You complain about a special interest group and ignore the most blatant special interest in the country.

I expect honesty not Bullshít from you ........ The Media supported Bush for a long time , and if you dont remember that , get checked for Alzheimer's ..........or Inbreeding in the family tree .........

Spider
06-23-2007, 05:19 PM
Dan Rather may have screwed up , I doubt he did , but he owned up to it , the swift boat Liars flat out lied , it was intentional ......... if you cant handle that , then get therapy

cutthemdown
06-23-2007, 06:39 PM
Dan Rather proved to us just how unbiased the national press is.

Dan Rather really soured his reputation.

codeman
06-23-2007, 06:56 PM
Dont **** with me on this , you know damn well the so called liberal Media supported Bush in Iraqi war , didnt report a lot of stuff until weeks later .... shít can the blaming of the press , that dog doesnt hunt anymore

Largest crock of **** I've ever read on the internet.

codeman
06-23-2007, 06:58 PM
Dan Rather may have screwed up , I doubt he did , but he owned up to it , the swift boat Liars flat out lied , it was intentional ......... if you cant handle that , then get therapy

So you believed everything Kerry said? Kerry was no war hero. He didn't miss one single day of service due to any one of his three purple hearts. At the very least he is a liar and at best he is still a piece of ****. I'd class him lower that truck drivers in both attitude and IQ. (sub zero to be clear)

Spider
06-23-2007, 06:59 PM
Largest crock of **** I've ever read on the internet.

you can read ? with your head so far up your own ass I am shocked you can do much of anything ...........

Spider
06-23-2007, 07:00 PM
So you believed everything Kerry said? Kerry was no war hero. He didn't miss one single day of service due to any one of his three purple hearts. At the very least he is a liar and at best he is still a piece of ****. I'd class him lower that truck drivers in both attitude and IQ. (sub zero to be clear)

you lying sack of shít ........ Kerry maybe alot of things , but the swift boat Liars were proven liars .......nuff said

TailgateNut
06-23-2007, 08:10 PM
So you believed everything Kerry said? Kerry was no war hero. He didn't miss one single day of service due to any one of his three purple hearts. At the very least he is a liar and at best he is still a piece of ****. I'd class him lower that truck drivers in both attitude and IQ. (sub zero to be clear)



You little pissant. What f-ing hole did you crawl out of? You talk **** about John Kerry while defending Dumbya the deserter . You are IMO the most clueless Repuke on this site, and that's a tough title considering some of the other BushKNobSlobbers who blabber their rightard BS.

F-ing Dumbya was in the Natl guard defending Texas from Oklahoma, and that was when he was actually on duty which was seldom. Kerry served in Vietnam, and regardless of how he earned his Purple Hearts, he earned them.

You can go anywhere you please with your comments as long as you DO NOT put down any veterans who served this country.

Spider
06-23-2007, 08:18 PM
You little pissant. What f-ing hole did you crawl out of? You talk **** about John Kerry while defending Dumbya the deserter . You are IMO the most clueless Repuke on this site, and that's a tough title considering some of the other BushKNobSlobbers who blabber their rightard BS.

F-ing Dumbya was in the Natl guard defending Texas from Oklahoma, and that was when he was actually on duty which was seldom. Kerry served in Vietnam, and regardless of how he earned his Purple Hearts, he earned them.

You can go anywhere you please with your comments as long as you DO NOT put down any veterans who served this country.
thats why i called him a lying sack of shít .............

TailgateNut
06-24-2007, 09:01 AM
thats why i called him a lying sack of shít .............


The only time i was ever 86t out of a bar was when some asshole who was sitting next to me said: "they (our soldiers who fought in Vietnam) deserved what they got because they had no business being there". I smacked the ****er in the mouth and knocked him off his stool. No questions asked, no excuses given. Just smacked the ****er in the mouth!

To criticize the soldiers who are just following orders is lower than low.

I don't give a flying **** WHY Kerry recieved his purple hearts. He fought in Vietnam, and that alone IMO is sufficient.

Bronco_Beerslug
06-24-2007, 09:36 AM
So you believed everything Kerry said? Kerry was no war hero. He didn't miss one single day of service due to any one of his three purple hearts. At the very least he is a liar and at best he is still a piece of ****. I'd class him lower that truck drivers in both attitude and IQ. (sub zero to be clear)You do the right proud (ignorance and lack of knowledge being your strong suit).

Bronco Bob
06-24-2007, 02:39 PM
So you believed everything Kerry said? Kerry was no war hero. He didn't miss one single day of service due to any one of his three purple hearts. At the very least he is a liar and at best he is still a piece of ****. I'd class him lower that truck drivers in both attitude and IQ. (sub zero to be clear)

You lying sack of ****, Kerry did too earn every one of his medals. The people
that actually served with him vouched for him, especially the man whose life
Kerry saved.