OT-LynchMob72 gets taken for a ride - New California Laws effective

[Los Broncos]

I like the cell phone law.



New California Laws effective 7/1/07
New Driving Fines for 2007

1. Carpool lane - 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/07 (The $271 posted
on the highway is old). Don't do it again because 2nd time is going to be
double. 3rd time triple, and 4th time license suspended.

2. Incorrect lane change - $380. Don't cross the lane on solid lines or intersections.

3. Block intersection - $485

4. Driving on the shoulder - $450

5. Cell phone use in the construction zone. - Double fine as of 07/01/07.
Cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.

6. Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts - both passengers and drivers get tickets .

7. Speeders can only drive 3 miles above the limit.

8. DUI = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)

9. As of 07/01/07 cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.
Ticket is $285. They will be looking for this like crazy - easy money for police department.

[NYBronco]

Nothing on illegal immigrants?

[Los Broncos]

Nothing on illegal immigrants?

No, just traffic.

[Popps]

Where did you pull this info? Haven't heard of some of it, and read conflicting info on others... particularly #9. The way it reads in your post, it has MUCH more teeth than what I read was coming, and starts sooner.

[socalorado]

Nothing on illegal immigrants?

NOPE. But if you could fax or call your senator and tell them that Fridays vote for Shamnesty is treason, i would really appreciate it.
Also, there are no rules or laws here in SOCAL, its Thunderdome!!

[Los Broncos]

Where did you pull this info? Haven't heard of some of it, and read conflicting info on others... particularly #9. The way it reads in your post, it has MUCH more teeth than what I read was coming, and starts sooner.

It was just sent to me in an email from a friend.

[Garcia Bronco]

In Virginia, all traffic laws typically went effective 7/1. 3 miles above the "limit" is too aggressive IMO. IMO...there shouldn't be speed limits anyway...but I am just one person

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I like the cell phone law.



New California Laws effective 7/1/07
New Driving Fines for 2007

1. Carpool lane - 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/07 (The $271 posted
on the highway is old). Don't do it again because 2nd time is going to be
double. 3rd time triple, and 4th time license suspended.

2. Incorrect lane change - $380. Don't cross the lane on solid lines or intersections.

3. Block intersection - $485

4. Driving on the shoulder - $450

5. Cell phone use in the construction zone. - Double fine as of 07/01/07.
Cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.

6. Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts - both passengers and drivers get tickets .

7. Speeders can only drive 3 miles above the limit.

8. DUI = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)

9. As of 07/01/07 cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.
Ticket is $285. They will be looking for this like crazy - easy money for police department.Good, about time to get people in line with and obey the rules!


BTW, isn't this just some kind of email hoax?

[Los Broncos]

Good, about time to get people in line with and obey the rules!

People on their phones drives me nuts.

[NYBronco]

NOPE. But if you could fax or call your senator and tell them that Fridays vote for Shamnesty is treason, i would really appreciate it.
Also, there are no rules or laws here in SOCAL, its Thunderdome!!

I gave up on the self serving corporate government.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

People on their phones drives me nuts.I don't think this is real, just email crap but I may be wrong.

EDIT: Yep.....

New California Traffic Laws 2007
Netlore Archive: Hoax email purports to share a set of new California traffic laws effective January 1, 2007 (or July 1, 2007 in a later variant)


Description: Email hoax
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False
Analysis: See below

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_california_traffic_laws_2007.htm

[Los Broncos]

Dam it, delete this thread.

[Garcia Bronco]

NOPE. But if you could fax or call your senator and tell them that Fridays vote for Shamnesty is treason, i would really appreciate it.
Also, there are no rules or laws here in SOCAL, its Thunderdome!!

"WHO RUNS BARTER TOWN?"

[DeusExManning]

I like the cell phone law.



New California Laws effective 7/1/07
New Driving Fines for 2007

1. Carpool lane - 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/07 (The $271 posted
on the highway is old). Don't do it again because 2nd time is going to be
double. 3rd time triple, and 4th time license suspended.

2. Incorrect lane change - $380. Don't cross the lane on solid lines or intersections.

3. Block intersection - $485

4. Driving on the shoulder - $450

5. Cell phone use in the construction zone. - Double fine as of 07/01/07.
Cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.

6. Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts - both passengers and drivers get tickets .

7. Speeders can only drive 3 miles above the limit.

8. DUI = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)

9. As of 07/01/07 cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.
Ticket is $285. They will be looking for this like crazy - easy money for police department.

This is FALSE, I just got a carpool ticket on the 405 and my friend sent me this as an email to scare the crap out of me. I looked it up and it was a total farce.

My carpool fine was 341 and you do not have to go to traffic school.

[socalorado]

"WHO RUNS BARTER TOWN?"

MasterBlaster!!!!!!!

[That One Guy]

I don't get all the support for cell phone laws. Yes, everyone hates the stupid chick cutting you off while talking on her cell phone... but it's the conversation she's engaged in that has her attention. It doesn't take your attention to hold something to your head. I can drive around all day holding a toaster to my head and drive attentively. Give me a hands free headset and I still notice it takes my attention trying to monitor the conversation. So what do the new laws actually accomplish?

[Los Broncos]

I don't get all the support for cell phone laws. Yes, everyone hates the stupid chick cutting you off while talking on her cell phone... but it's the conversation she's engaged in that has her attention. It doesn't take your attention to hold something to your head. I can drive around all day holding a toaster to my head and drive attentively. Give me a hands free headset and I still notice it takes my attention trying to monitor the conversation. So what do the new laws actually accomplish?

Its not true.

[CBF1]

way to jump the gun and make me panic.... Oh hell, I hate SoCal anyways, just another reason if ti were true.

[Los Broncos]

way to jump the gun and make me panic.... Oh hell, I hate SoCal anyways, just another reason if ti were true.

I really blew it.

[That One Guy]

I know it's not true but there are cell phone laws popping up everywhere nowadays. All army posts adopted em already and I think it's retarded. I was driving to work shortly after the laws were enacted and I was eating an apple. I bit into the apple and bit the part with the sticker on it. I then began to dig through chewed up apple to pull out the sticker while still doing 35 on the way to work and that's not against the rules. Well, it probably is against SOME rule but noone'd pull me over for it unless I was swerving lanes or something. In contrast, let me drive down the road listening to my voicemail and it's a ticket. People everyday are clamoring for these laws and it's just... I just don't get it.

[Los Broncos]

I know it's not true but there are cell phone laws popping up everywhere nowadays. All army posts adopted em already and I think it's retarded. I was driving to work shortly after the laws were enacted and I was eating an apple. I bit into the apple and bit the part with the sticker on it. I then began to dig through chewed up apple to pull out the sticker while still doing 35 on the way to work and that's not against the rules. Well, it probably is against SOME rule but noone'd pull me over for it unless I was swerving lanes or something. In contrast, let me drive down the road listening to my voicemail and it's a ticket. People everyday are clamoring for these laws and it's just... I just don't get it.

I live in socal and its nuts out here. People don't give a **** on the road, they drive and talk. It can cause an accident much like drinking and driving. Your driving a car not a phone booth.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Cell phone driving laws are stupid...just more Nazi-like crap to bleed the motorist for money. All kinds of things can distract drivers, not just cell phones. Why not ticket soccer moms for letting more than 1 kid talk in the back seat? How 'bout changing the radio station? Plugging in CD's?...eating a hamburger?...having a dog in the car?...listening to iPods?...checking a map?

[Jana®]

I thought California already had that cell phone law. My friend told me that it was illegal to use your cell phone while driving unless you use a hands free device.

[Dukes]

After living in Cali for the last two years, every one of these SHOULD be invorced immediately. People out there drive like chickens with their heads cut off.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

California does have a law that bans computer use in a moving vehicle. They actually make devices that blank the screen on laptops anytime your vehicle is in gear. It is intended for service guys and the like. The were selling like crazy at a trade show I went to a couple years ago.

[Hogan11]

They look like NY traffic laws Ha!

BTW, the cell phone law is like the seat belt law....totally unenforceable and a waste of time other than making whatever politician who introduces it look as if he's big on public safety.

[Jana®]

Cell phone driving laws are stupid...just more Nazi-like crap to bleed the motorist for money. All kinds of things can distract drivers, not just cell phones. Why not ticket soccer moms for letting more than 1 kid talk in the back seat? How 'bout changing the radio station? Plugging in CD's?...eating a hamburger?...having a dog in the car?...listening to iPods?...checking a map?

I think the iPod thing IS a law by now.. but not sure. Some girl out here got killed because she had her headphones on and didn't hear the ambulance coming.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

They look like NY traffic laws Ha!

BTW, the cell phone law is like the seat belt law....totally unenforceable and a waste of time other than making whatever politician who introduces it look as if he's big on public safety.Seat belt laws are definitely enforceable. Big signs down here everywhere showing how much it will cost you if you don't use them. The police depts. even have commercials (radio and TV both) warning you if you don't use them you WILL be ticketed.

[Hogan11]

Seat belt laws are definitely enforceable. Big signs down here everywhere showing how much it will cost you if you don't use them. The police depts. even have commercials (radio and TV both) warning you if you don't use them you WILL be ticketed.

Bah, they won't pull you over if you don't have one on here..it's mainly a surcharge really..the only time you get ticketed for that is if you're not wearing it going thru a DWI checkpoint, if you get stopped for something else or have an accident.

Like using the cell phone while driving, not wearing a seat belt is not reason enough for law enforcement to pull you over in and by itself.....so it's largely unenforceable by choice of the PD's.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think the iPod thing IS a law by now.. but not sure. Some girl out here got killed because she had her headphones on and didn't hear the ambulance coming.

In Virginia it's illegal to drive with headphones on.

[Rock Chalk]

I like the cell phone law.



New California Laws effective 7/1/07
New Driving Fines for 2007

1. Carpool lane - 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/07 (The $271 posted
on the highway is old). Don't do it again because 2nd time is going to be
double. 3rd time triple, and 4th time license suspended.

2. Incorrect lane change - $380. Don't cross the lane on solid lines or intersections.

3. Block intersection - $485

4. Driving on the shoulder - $450

5. Cell phone use in the construction zone. - Double fine as of 07/01/07.
Cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.

6. Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts - both passengers and drivers get tickets .

7. Speeders can only drive 3 miles above the limit.

8. DUI = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)

9. As of 07/01/07 cell phone use must be "hands free" while driving.
Ticket is $285. They will be looking for this like crazy - easy money for police department.

Just more reasons to hate the socialist/communist state of California.

[dark_hawk]

Just more reasons to hate the socialist/communist state of California.

if u think those are bad u should see some of cali's gun laws

[Jana®]

Seat belt laws are definitely enforceable. Big signs down here everywhere showing how much it will cost you if you don't use them. The police depts. even have commercials (radio and TV both) warning you if you don't use them you WILL be ticketed.

I think here they finally passed a law stating that you can be pulled over and will be ticketed for not wearing your seat belt. Before they couldn't pull you over for it, but would ticket you if you were pulled over and caught without it.

[Jana®]

In Virginia it's illegal to drive with headphones on.

I think it is here in Denver too.. but not sure.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Left lane = passing lane... as in move the **** over if you are not passing. 90 brazillion dollar fine. Double if you are on the cell phone or driving right next to a car in the right lane.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Bah, they won't pull you over if you don't have one on here..it's mainly a surcharge really..the only time you get ticketed for that is if you're not wearing it going thru a DWI checkpoint, if you get stopped for something else or have an accident.

Like using the cell phone while driving, not wearing a seat belt is not reason enough for law enforcement to pull you over in and by itself.....so it's largely unenforceable by choice of the PD's.Yeah, use to be that way in a lot of states but some now have laws where you can be pulled over for just that and they do. They cite studies showing here almost 100% compliance if the law allows for ticketing for not wearing them.

Looking around it looks like 23 states have primary seat belt laws now.

Cell phones will be next and should be. Studies show they cause many accidents.
Just more reasons to hate the socialist/communist state of California.You must have missed the part about the email hoax. And BTW, CA seat belt law first violation...$20: Texas = $200.

[socalorado]

Just more reasons to hate the socialist/communist state of California.

Man, alot of us out there that realize just how screwed CA really is!!
Soccermoms are the #1 reason for traffic in Socal. Period!
The state should only allow them on the road between 9am and 3pm. then there would be much less traffic.
If they are pulled over outside of those hours, then they are imprisoned and fined 50,000.00. This would solve the majority of traffic issues in this nuthouse of a state.:thumbs:

[Drunk Monkey]

Cali is getting our out of control. I left in 02 and am never going back... well to live at least. I think the cell phone laws are up to the cities at the moment. I know it is illegal in Santa Monica.

[Jason in LA]

It was just sent to me in an email from a friend.


I received that same thing two days ago from a friend.

[Los Broncos]

I received that same thing two days ago from a friend.

Im such a dimwit, i should of researched it first.

[Jason in LA]

I don't get all the support for cell phone laws. Yes, everyone hates the stupid chick cutting you off while talking on her cell phone... but it's the conversation she's engaged in that has her attention. It doesn't take your attention to hold something to your head. I can drive around all day holding a toaster to my head and drive attentively. Give me a hands free headset and I still notice it takes my attention trying to monitor the conversation. So what do the new laws actually accomplish?

I heard about a study that said that hands free devices are just as dangerous. Like you said, the problem is the conversation. It doesn't matter if the person has the phone up to their ear or a hands free devices, the chances of an accident are the same because that person's attention is being taken away from the road.

[Jason in LA]

Im such a dimwit, i should of researched it first.

I thought it was true as well. It looked real, so I never gave it a second thought. I bet that email will serve it's purpose because most people will believe it and obey those laws, even though they aren't really laws.

[Hogan11]

Yeah, use to be that way in a lot of states but some now have laws where you can be pulled over for just that and they do. They cite studies showing here almost 100% compliance if the law allows for ticketing for not wearing them.

Looking around it looks like 23 states have primary seat belt laws now.

Cell phones will be next and should be. Studies show they cause many accidents.

Just another "cost-effective revenue stream" and "self-funding program" for the depts. as if they really need it....they're soooo underfunded Ha!

Cell phones are already outlawed while driving in many of the Safetyocracy states.....money,money,money.

[Los Broncos]

I thought it was true as well. It looked real, so I never gave it a second thought. I bet that email will serve it's purpose because most people will believe it and obey those laws, even though they aren't really laws.

I do personally on most of them. I don't drive and talk thats for sure. Call me stupid but i don't see why its ok to drive and talk. Someone give me a good reason why its ok to do so.

I always buckle up because i was in a car wreck back in 02. If i wasn't wearing one, i would of died. The person who nailed me was on their phone at the time. I know this is just one example but, im sure it happens a lot.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I do personally on most of them. I don't drive and talk thats for sure. Call me stupid but i don't see why its ok to drive and talk. Someone give me a good reason why its ok to do so.

I always buckle up because i was in a car wreck back in 02. If i wasn't wearing one, i would of died. The person who nailed me was on their phone at the time. I know this is just one example but, im sure it happens a lot.

This tells you a lot....

"If you put a 20-year-old driver behind the wheel with a cell phone, their reaction times are the same as a 70-year-old driver who is not using a cell phone," said University of Utah psychology professor David Strayer. "It's like instantly aging a large number of drivers."

The study was announced today and is detailed in winter issue of the quarterly journal Human Factors.

Traffic jams and death (http://www.livescience.com/technology/050201_cell_danger.html)

Cell phone distraction causes 2,600 deaths and 330,000 injuries in the United States every year, according to the journal's publisher, the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society.

[Los Broncos]

This tells you a lot....

Thanks