View Full Version : chavez promotes privation
yavoon
06-14-2007, 04:42 AM
like any good communist, being rich is a sin.
CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told his supporters to give away possessions they do not need such as an extra refrigerator because he only wants true socialists to be members of a new single party he is forming.
"Whoever has a fridge they do not need, put it out in the village square. Whoever has a truck, a fan or a cooker they do not need, give something away. Let's not be selfish. I demand you do it," Chavez said at a milk producing cooperative, in remarks released on Monday.
Chavez, who calls capitalism an evil, said he would donate $250,000 of his own money and added, "Let's see who follows the example."
The anti-U.S. president who calls Cuban leader Fidel Castro his mentor denies he is turning the OPEC nation of avid consumers into another communist state as his critics say.
But since coming to power in 1999, Chavez has proposed increasingly radical steps to drive Venezuela toward a socialist state and, after a landslide re-election late last year, he declared himself for the first time a communist.
Chavez, who rules by decree, has focused his political ambitions this year on forming a single party from the hodgepodge of affiliations that have traditionally supported him in what he says is his crusade against U.S. imperialism.
Officials say millions of followers have signed up to be members of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela that Chavez plans to use as a platform to govern the country for decades.
"If I were to end up with only five people signing up out of those 5 million, I'd be happier," Chavez said on Sunday in remarks that were distributed on Monday by the government and published in the local media.
"I only want to be accompanied by true socialists," he said.
Chavez's critics complain his constant railing against U.S.-promoted consumerism contrasts with the behavior of senior government officials who can can be seen dining out at fancy restaurants or riding around in expensive cars.
Bronco Bob
06-14-2007, 03:27 PM
So you support wastefulness, having more stuff than you really need?
yavoon
06-14-2007, 03:50 PM
So you support wastefulness, having more stuff than you really need?
do u support only having what u need?
The Lone Bolt
06-14-2007, 05:18 PM
"Napoleon had denounced such ideas as contrary to the spirit of Animalism. The truest happiness, he said, lay in working hard and living frugally."
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
Rigs11
06-14-2007, 05:35 PM
meanwhile back in the US.......
Smiling Assassin27
06-14-2007, 05:48 PM
You hold up a mirror to this guy and you see Mussolini in the reflection. Of course, hold up a mirror to George Bush and you see the Joker from Batman in the reflection.
'Where does he get those WONDERFUL toys??'
Hotrod
06-14-2007, 05:53 PM
I wonder if he will be the first to throw out his stove/fridge and fan Ha!
Some on this board think hes a hero..........now thats scary.
Hotrod
06-14-2007, 05:55 PM
So you support wastefulness, having more stuff than you really need?
You dont use electricty do you..........cause you really dont need it. How about a stove........dont need it............television.......nope dont need it. You should prolly sign off the internet because you dont need it either.
You dont use electricty do you..........cause you really dont need it. How about a stove........dont need it............television.......nope dont need it. You should prolly sign off the internet because you dont need it either.
That's carrying things a bit far. All the man said is to share if you have extra. "Extra" may mean different things to different people. Chavez is obvious a socialist and criticize him for that, but there's nothing really wrong with the general sentiment of his comments, unless you want to read more "sinister" socialist agendas into it.
yavoon
06-14-2007, 06:16 PM
That's carrying things a bit far. All the man said is to share if you have extra. "Extra" may mean different things to different people. Chavez is obvious a socialist and criticize him for that, but there's nothing really wrong with the general sentiment of his comments, unless you want to read more "sinister" socialist agendas into it.
"Let's not be selfish. I demand you do it"
open communist=sinister.
Man, there're more and more pinko commies everytime I come to this forum :P
Party on Comrades...
http://www.evoluxion.com/utopia/images/communists.png
oops, or is that a waste of time and alcohol and money when there are millions waiting in bread lines? Oh yea, they're the leaders so it's cool. 8')
mhgaffney
06-14-2007, 10:10 PM
When you are that far out in right field -- beyond the bleachers -- the whole world looks left.
Bronco Bob
06-14-2007, 10:34 PM
do u support only having what u need?
Well yes, actually. I tend not to buy stuff I don't need, and if I have
something I don't need anymore I either donate it to charity or
if it is totally useless I throw it away.
Bronco Bob
06-14-2007, 10:38 PM
You dont use electricty do you..........cause you really dont need it.
I do need it. I just don't waste it.
How about a stove........dont need it
You're an idiot. I use it to cook my food.
............television.......nope dont need it.
Maybe you don't, but I enjoy watching it.
You should prolly sign off the internet because you dont need it either.
Maybe you should get off it because you are a moron.
yavoon
06-14-2007, 10:57 PM
Well yes, actually. I tend not to buy stuff I don't need, and if I have
something I don't need anymore I either donate it to charity or
if it is totally useless I throw it away.
then why the hell are u on the internet? cuz I guarontee that u not be needing the internet. come on comrade, there are ppl w/o clean shirts. u having fancy electronic gizmo's just shows how much of a capitalist pig dog u r.
epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2007, 10:59 PM
Communism will never be able to compete.
Bronco Bob
06-14-2007, 11:01 PM
then why the hell are u on the internet? cuz I guarontee that u not be needing the internet. come on comrade, there are ppl w/o clean shirts. u having fancy electronic gizmo's just shows how much of a capitalist pig dog u r.
Because it's something I USE, moron. Damn you people are thick.
epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2007, 11:04 PM
Because it's something I USE, moron. Damn you people are thick.
So, I guess that only rich old pack rats will form the backbone of your communist state.
yavoon
06-14-2007, 11:17 PM
Because it's something I USE, moron. Damn you people are thick.
so if u use it u need it? what planet did u learn logic on?
bcbronc
06-15-2007, 04:30 AM
so if u use it u need it? what planet did u learn logic on?
but it's "extra" when you don't use it.
:peace:
Hotrod
06-15-2007, 10:16 AM
I do need it. I just don't waste it.
You're an idiot. I use it to cook my food.
Maybe you don't, but I enjoy watching it.
Maybe you should get off it because you are a moron.
Your not a very good communist. :giggle:
Hotrod
06-15-2007, 10:17 AM
Because it's something I USE, moron. Damn you people are thick.
You dont need it. Shut off the power to your home for the good of the majority.
Bronco Bob
06-15-2007, 11:05 AM
so if u use it u need it? what planet did u learn logic on?
Certainly not on the planet Yavoon.
Bronco Bob
06-15-2007, 11:07 AM
You dont need it. Shut off the power to your home for the good of the majority.
I need it to talk to dolts like you.
Bronco Bob
06-15-2007, 11:12 AM
Your not a very good communist. :giggle:
Never said I was one. I said I don't buy stuff I don't need, ie have a use
for, and give away or throw away stuff I don't need, ie use anymore.
Where is that communisim? I take it you are one of those pack rats
that has their house filled with junk because you "need" it, newspapers
piled to the ceiling, old automobiles in the yard on concrete blocks,
engine parts in the bathtub.
Hotrod
06-15-2007, 11:17 AM
Never said I was one. I said I don't buy stuff I don't need, ie have a use
for, and give away or throw away stuff I don't need, ie use anymore.
Where is that communisim? I take it you are one of those pack rats
that has their house filled with junk because you "need" it, newspapers
piled to the ceiling, old automobiles in the yard on concrete blocks,
engine parts in the bathtub.
I actually saw a show awhile back where this old couple had kept every newspaper they had read for 40 years. That **** was piled up to the ceiling and there were simply tunnels running around the house.
Hotrod
06-15-2007, 11:19 AM
Look Bob you most certainly do buy things that you dont "need". You could simply cook your food over a fire. You dont need a stove you WANT a stove. You dont need electric power in your house you WANT it.
If your ever gonna become a good little socialist you need to stop thinking so much of your own wants & comforts and do whats best for EVERYONE......
Bronco Bob
06-15-2007, 11:27 AM
Look Bob you most certainly do buy things that you dont "need". You could simply cook your food over a fire. You dont need a stove you WANT a stove. You dont need electric power in your house you WANT it.
If your ever gonna become a good little socialist you need to stop thinking so much of your own wants & comforts and do whats best for EVERYONE......
Look, all the article was saying is if you have extra stuff you don't need, get
rid of it. It didn't say get rid of your ONLY refrigerator, it said get rid of the
second one, if you have EXTRA pots and pans, give them to the poor.
It never said give EVERYTHING away and live like a hermit. But you people
blow it all out of proportion to where the article wants us all living in caves.
I supposed you think the Salvation Army and Goodwill Industries are also
communist plots though, because they have built their whole business on
just such a plan, give what you don't need to the poor.
Hotrod
06-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Look, all the article was saying is if you have extra stuff you don't need, get
rid of it. It didn't say get rid of your ONLY refrigerator, it said get rid of the
second one, if you have EXTRA pots and pans, give them to the poor.
It never said give EVERYTHING away and live like a hermit. But you people
blow it all out of proportion to where the article wants us all living in caves.
I supposed you think the Salvation Army and Goodwill Industries are also
communist plots though, because they have built their whole business on
just such a plan, give what you don't need to the poor.
Ha!
Relax if you think of Chavez as a hero......a champion of the people......fighter of the evils of democracy thats your right :)
alkemical
06-15-2007, 11:57 AM
Never said I was one. I said I don't buy stuff I don't need, ie have a use
for, and give away or throw away stuff I don't need, ie use anymore.
Where is that communisim? I take it you are one of those pack rats
that has their house filled with junk because you "need" it, newspapers
piled to the ceiling, old automobiles in the yard on concrete blocks,
engine parts in the bathtub.
I'm a minimalist as well.
alkemical
06-15-2007, 12:05 PM
After i had to give away and pawn pretty much everything i owned - Material goods are only worth 50 cents a piece.
ant1999e
06-15-2007, 12:19 PM
Ha!
Relax if you think of Chavez as a hero......a champion of the people......fighter of the evils of democracy thats your right :)
How dare you criticize his idol.
Spider
06-15-2007, 02:12 PM
wow this thread took some turns , I was shocked Yavidiot didnt post something about Muslims , as for waste and what not , I brought a load of pipe up out of houston to casper , now the pipe is on its way back to texas ... go figure ....
As for Chavez , really dont give a damn what he does , and to some of you Idiots , dont compare him to hitler , Chavez is not threat , His people want him , let them have him , we have our own problems right now ........ America first , **** the rest untill we need them
yavoon
06-15-2007, 02:15 PM
Never said I was one. I said I don't buy stuff I don't need, ie have a use
for, and give away or throw away stuff I don't need, ie use anymore.
Where is that communisim? I take it you are one of those pack rats
that has their house filled with junk because you "need" it, newspapers
piled to the ceiling, old automobiles in the yard on concrete blocks,
engine parts in the bathtub.
so now if paris hilton buys her 600th pair of shoes and wears them they can be considered a need? ur really out to lunch on this one bronco, hunker down and rethink.
yavoon
06-15-2007, 02:16 PM
Look, all the article was saying is if you have extra stuff you don't need, get
rid of it. It didn't say get rid of your ONLY refrigerator, it said get rid of the
second one, if you have EXTRA pots and pans, give them to the poor.
It never said give EVERYTHING away and live like a hermit. But you people
blow it all out of proportion to where the article wants us all living in caves.
I supposed you think the Salvation Army and Goodwill Industries are also
communist plots though, because they have built their whole business on
just such a plan, give what you don't need to the poor.
why should u need a refrigerator? man has lived for thousands of years w/o one. salt ur beef!
infact I change my mind, beef is definitely unneeded. dont buy beef.
ant1999e
06-15-2007, 02:52 PM
wow this thread took some turns , I was shocked Yavidiot didnt post something about Muslims , as for waste and what not , I brought a load of pipe up out of houston to casper , now the pipe is on its way back to texas ... go figure ....
As for Chavez , really dont give a damn what he does , and to some of you Idiots , dont compare him to hitler , Chavez is not threat , His people want him , let them have him , we have our own problems right now ........ America first , **** the rest untill we need them
Don't you have a truck to drive?;)
Spider
06-15-2007, 02:55 PM
Don't you have a truck to drive?;)
4,000 Miles in 6 days ......... I dont want to see another truck for awhile ;D
4,000 Miles in 6 days ......... I dont want to see another truck for awhile ;D
Chavez will fill the tank for ya man. Just agree to give up all the "extras" you don't need so he and his cronies can live high off the hog. C'mon Spide, do you really need 3 strollers? .......... Oh yea, I guess you do. ;)
Spider
06-15-2007, 03:05 PM
Chavez will fill the tank for ya man. Just agree to give up all the "extras" you don't need so he and his cronies can live high off the hog. C'mon Spide, do you really need 3 strollers? .......... Oh yea, I guess you do. ;)
Somebody needs to fill the tanks , little over 900 in fuel and oil .....
Somebody needs to fill the tanks , little over 900 in fuel and oil .....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/REB65/smileywhoa.gif Damn!
defenseman
06-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Ha!
Relax if you think of Chavez as a hero......a champion of the people......fighter of the evils of democracy thats your right :)
It's also his right to be dead wrong also...dman
epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 03:28 PM
dont compare him to hitler , Chavez is not threat , His people want him , let them have him
Hitler's people went to war for him.
Spider
06-15-2007, 04:50 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/REB65/smileywhoa.gif Damn!
thats because I kept my foot out of it ......... If I hotrod , it could have been over a 1,000 easy
Spider
06-15-2007, 04:55 PM
Hitler's people went to war for him.
no they didnt , they went to war bitter over ww1 , and Hitler said what they wanted to hear , so in essence they went to war for the for the ideas , not the man , the Brownshirts putting the dissenters in line , just like 1 poster here tried to tell me germany wasnt a democracy before hitler ...........Amazes me how ignorant people are about someone they compare every dictator under the sun to .......
thats because I kept my foot out of it ......... If I hotrod , it could have been over a 1,000 easy
Well. that's not much more. Hotrod it baby! No, not you hotrod. Stop salivating. I think it's obvious that spide doesn't roll that way. Well, unless you get in his spider hole :) :~ohyah!:
Spider
06-15-2007, 05:01 PM
Well. that's not much more. Hotrod it baby! No, not you hotrod. Stop salivating. I think it's obvious that spide doesn't roll that way. Well, unless you get in his spider hole :) :~ohyah!:
;D that little bit is the difference in Diapers and food .......... as for the rest of your post , consider yourself off the x mas card list ;D
;D that little bit is the difference in Diapers and food .......... as for the rest of your post , consider yourself off the x mas card list ;D
awww shucks. But merry f'n Christmas to you anyway ;D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/REB65/hottieElecktra3.jpg
Spider
06-15-2007, 05:10 PM
awww shucks. But merry f'n Christmas to you anyway ;D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/REB65/hottieElecktra3.jpg
LOL...............I would hit it more then once ;D
LOL You got that right :wiggle:
ChargerChuck
06-17-2007, 12:42 AM
It's also his right to be dead wrong also...dmanThat sounds like you're advocating ending his life because of his political beliefs, is that true?
ant1999e
06-17-2007, 12:45 AM
That sounds like you're advocating ending his life because of his political beliefs, is that true?
He said dead wrong. WTF are you talking about?
ChargerChuck
06-17-2007, 12:57 AM
He said dead wrong. WTF are you talking about?It isn't clear to you for some reason?
ant1999e
06-17-2007, 12:59 AM
It isn't clear to you for some reason?
Since you asked the question, neither are you Dumbass.
ChargerChuck
06-17-2007, 01:08 AM
Since you asked the question, neither are you Dumbass.Neither am I what? And I didn't ask you any question. But since you butted in you are a Bush supporter (voted for Bush) apparently?
ant1999e
06-17-2007, 01:23 AM
Neither am I what? And I didn't ask you any question. But since you butted in you are a Bush supporter (voted for Bush) apparently?
You drunk?:alky: