Wesley Snipes claims race played role in charges against him

[Needa Pass Rush]

OCALA, Fla. (AP) - Actor Wesley Snipes' attorneys argue their client is being selectively targeted for prosecution on federal tax evasion charges because he is black.


In a June 4 motion to dismiss the indictment, Snipes' attorneys argue that prosecutors filed additional tax evasion charges against him and not against two co-defendants because they are "Caucasian, while Mr. Snipes is African-American."

A federal judge is still considering the motion.

The Oct. 17 indictment charges Snipes with fraudulently claiming refunds totaling nearly $12 million in 1996 and 1997 for income taxes already paid. The star of the "Blade" trilogy and other films also was charged with failure to file returns from 1999 through 2004.

The indictment said Snipes conspired with American Rights Litigators' founder Eddie Ray Kahn and tax preparer Douglas P. Rosile Sr. to file false refund claims based on a bogus argument that only income from foreign sources was subject to taxation.

Snipes' motion says he should be counted among 2,000 people who relied on Kahn and Rosile for tax advice, not as one of their co-defendants.

The indictment said Kahn and Rosile, through American Rights Litigators, collected fees of up to 20 percent of refunds from fraudulent tax returns.

Rosile's attorney, David Wilson, said Sunday his client never gave Snipes any tax advice.

"Mr. Rosile never met Mr. Snipes," Wilson said.

Kahn's attorney did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages seeking comment.

There was no immediate response Sunday to calls seeking comment from Snipes' manager or a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Nice deflection, Wesley. I would be trying to change the subject if I was getting ready for a full body probe by the IRS, too.

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[Popps]

I think it's his ****ty movies.

[BroncoBuff]

Wesley Snipes is a piece of refuse, who has taken the phenomenal luck and good fortune our Creator bestowed upon him and used it to strew ruin in his wake - toward people who did nothing to deserve it.

I have no knowledge that he's a drug-user, but his life is a series of crack-head moves. Stone cold truth.

[broncocalijohn]

It is true. When I see people being audited and getting busted for tax evasion, I see only blacks. Whites are always paying the exact amount owed to the government. All those companies ruining pensions and stock cheats? Look at the CEOs. All blacks. Yep, Michael Milken. Not really white guy. Totally black. Snipes you and Jackson get on this one while Sharpton works on the LAPD with the Hilton early release.

[-Slap-]

"Hey, Wesley!"
OOOOO\
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[ZachKC]

It isn't always easy being Simon Phoenix.

[ZachKC]

http://www.movievillains.com/archives/2003/02/simon_phoenix.html

http://www.movievillains.com/images/simonphoenix.jpg

It took the deaths of thirty innocent people for the police to finally catch notorious killer Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes), and he wasn't even the one responsible for their deaths. Sgt. John Spartan (Sylvester Stallone) was nicknamed the Demolition Man for his reckless destruction of public property in the search for fugitives from justice, but never before had he caused the deaths of the people he vowed to protect. Spartan called the wrong bluff and thirty hostages died. He and Phoenix were both sent to a new maximum security facility for the worst offenders, a cryo-prison, where inmates are frozen and locked away to serve their time.

46 years later, during a scheduled parole hearing, Simon Phoenix mysteriously escapes. The current police department is ill-equipped to handle a killer as aggressive as Phoenix, so they thaw out the guy who took him down in the first place: John Spartan. Armed with a non-lethal stun wand and a chance for redemption, Spartan sets out to find his man. What nobody realizes, however, is that Phoenix's escape was engineered by Dr. Cocteau, the man responsible for rebuilding San Angeles as a mecca of peace and ultra-sensitivity. However, Cocteau saw to it that Phoenix's normal prisoner rehabilitation program was replaced with all manner of knowledge in fighting, terrorism, mayhem, and various San Angeles access codes, all in an effort to kill Cocteau's primary social adversary, Edgar Friendly.

With all of his new powers, skills, and knowledge, Simon Phoenix became an even deadlier (and more efficient) killer. He quickly re-assembled his gang and found ways to gain the power and wealth he lost so many years ago. He emerged as the most dangerous man in San Angeles, able to fight anyone and cause murder/death/kills in mass quantities. Eventually, the SAPD's strategy to fight fire with fire would pay off, as John Spartan's unrelenting chase of Phoenix would lead back to the cryo-prison where the two would battle it out. In the end, the prison would be blamed for creating an even greater monster in Simon Phoenix, and the society in which it existed would need to evolve. Because, really, what kind of a world is it where you can't exchange bodily fluids?

INTELLIGENCE - 8: Simon was defrosted with the knowledge to be a killing machine, but his own intellect couldn't quite put it all together.

POWER - 8: He was also given extra strength and speed during his stay in the cryo-prison.

VILENESS - 7: Never cared who got in the way of the mayhem he was causing.

SWAY - 5: Phoenix spent more time trading quips with John Spartan than intimidating people.

PURITY - 7: Simply wants to raise hell and have a good time with his boys.

PHYSICAL - 6: Neither the denim overalls nor the Goodyear outfits really made the most of Simon's look, but he's got style nonetheless.

TOTAL: 41

[GreatBronco16]

LOL I love that movie.

[jebures]

OCALA, Fla. (AP) - Actor Wesley Snipes' attorneys argue their client is being selectively targeted for prosecution on federal tax evasion charges because he is black.


In a June 4 motion to dismiss the indictment, Snipes' attorneys argue that prosecutors filed additional tax evasion charges against him and not against two co-defendants because they are "Caucasian, while Mr. Snipes is African-American."

A federal judge is still considering the motion.

The Oct. 17 indictment charges Snipes with fraudulently claiming refunds totaling nearly $12 million in 1996 and 1997 for income taxes already paid. The star of the "Blade" trilogy and other films also was charged with failure to file returns from 1999 through 2004.

The indictment said Snipes conspired with American Rights Litigators' founder Eddie Ray Kahn and tax preparer Douglas P. Rosile Sr. to file false refund claims based on a bogus argument that only income from foreign sources was subject to taxation.

Snipes' motion says he should be counted among 2,000 people who relied on Kahn and Rosile for tax advice, not as one of their co-defendants.

The indictment said Kahn and Rosile, through American Rights Litigators, collected fees of up to 20 percent of refunds from fraudulent tax returns.

Rosile's attorney, David Wilson, said Sunday his client never gave Snipes any tax advice.

"Mr. Rosile never met Mr. Snipes," Wilson said.

Kahn's attorney did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages seeking comment.

There was no immediate response Sunday to calls seeking comment from Snipes' manager or a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office.


people that use the racist card to weezle their way out of troube sickens me.

In the words of Jim Carrey from Liar Liar "Stop breaking the law ass hole"

[Circle Orange]

Wesley's only saying this because he's black. :afro:

[azbroncfan]

When will a white guy pull the race card?

[Stormontheplains]

The IRS showed up out here 3 years ago with bull haulers, cargo trucks, and siezed a white man's paperwork, computers, cows, feed, and told the 75 employees to go home, this place is no longer in buisness. He had his wife, kids, and cousins, owning companies they didnt know about. The daughter refused to testify and spent 3 in the clink. So I guess white people do get arrested

[azbroncfan]

The IRS showed up out here 3 years ago with bull haulers, cargo trucks, and siezed a white man's paperwork, computers, cows, feed, and told the 75 employees to go home, this place is no longer in buisness. He had his wife, kids, and cousins, owning companies they didnt know about. The daughter refused to testify and spent 3 in the clink. So I guess white people do get arrested

Not saying they don't they just don't use the tired excuse of race card. Infact blacks complain how they want to be treated equal and this and that but they are the ones who always bring the race argument in. Get over it folks time to move on.

[ZachKC]

Not saying they don't they just don't use the tired excuse of race card. Infact blacks complain how they want to be treated equal and this and that but they are the ones who always bring the race argument in. Get over it folks time to move on.

Ya know, there is alot to be said about just making things happen no matter what situation you are in and not using race as a crutch. But sometimes I read comments like this and it seems that the people think racism...real racism is a thing of the past...this is not one of those cases but there are a lot of things going on in this country that shouldn't where telling people "time to move on" isn't enough.

[broncocalijohn]

Ya know, there is alot to be said about just making things happen no matter what situation you are in and not using race as a crutch. But sometimes I read comments like this and it seems that the people think racism...real racism is a thing of the past...this is not one of those cases but there are a lot of things going on in this country that shouldn't where telling people "time to move on" isn't enough.

I apply it to KC CHiefs fans. You won the championship long time ago. Get over it. There are alot of things going on in this country like winners and Chiefs fans need to wake up and realize it. What happened in the 60s and early 70s is a long time ago. Get over it. "Time to move on" IS enough to tell you and the CHiefs fans. If you still want to root on this loser, dont give us those excuses. Move along.

[-Slap-]

I'm prejudiced against Chiefs fans. I don't think they're fit to live among decent people.

[ZachKC]

I apply it to KC CHiefs fans. You won the championship long time ago. Get over it. There are alot of things going on in this country like winners and Chiefs fans need to wake up and realize it. What happened in the 60s and early 70s is a long time ago. Get over it. "Time to move on" IS enough to tell you and the CHiefs fans. If you still want to root on this loser, dont give us those excuses. Move along.
I will tell you a story...I am 23 so I assure you it didn't happen in the 60's or 70's.

I used to serve tables at a country club. Really high end place. One of the members is a very high ranking retired military official. Smart guy but a real asshole. No biggie though part of the business. This particular member was crazy rich even by the standards of the place. When the President comes to town...he usually stops by this member's home personally and hangs out. Lots of money, lots of power.

Something that is interesting about his dining service that was told to me before I served him and I saw first hand was a particular request he was adamant about. He would not eat anything served on a black plate...

My manager told me this and I started laughing. When he wasn't laughing with me I asked him why? I thought that maybe because he was a big military guy he was very strict on cleanliness for a proper dinner? Obviously no matter what you do if someone is carrying a black plate there will be a smudge here or there. My manager shook his head no. I also noticed that the assistant manager (who is black) went back to the grill area to do some work. He made his presence scarce.

I was pretty shocked but continued to serve...there were some jokes said...and some stories told...I couldn't believe it. 2007 and someone is that blatantly racist?

This isn't the norm...there are a lot of great people at this place. But still openly, racially offensive language and conversations that always cast blacks in demeaning and sometimes inferior lights seems to come about a lot.

People who hire people...people who run businesses...very involved in corporate and community life...

[JimmyFocus]

II couldn't believe it. 2007 and someone is that blatantly racist?

This isn't the norm


you really couldnt believe it?..... i think it is more the norm then most think

[Tredici]

My manager told me this and I started laughing. When he wasn't laughing with me I asked him why?

I also noticed that the assistant manager (who is black) went back to the grill area to do some work. He made his presence scarce.

Those two are the most pathetic people in the whole place. The retired guy is a moron. The people who cater to his nonsense are worse.

[ZachKC]

Those two are the most pathetic people in the whole place. The retired guy is a moron. The people who cater to his nonsense are worse.

It is the industry...I mean I was having some back and forth thoughts as to my involvement. There was only one time I refused to serve a table and it was a pregnant lady who ordered a mimosa. I absolutely would not give that drink to her.

But part of a CC is getting what you want...these folks pay out 40k\year before they even hit a golf ball or grab dinner. This particular member makes one call and they would be looking for a new GM and asst. GM. What do you do in that situation? I think it was tough on everyone.

[Tredici]

It is the industry...I mean I was having some back and forth thoughts as to my involvement. There was only one time I refused to serve a table and it was a pregnant lady who ordered a mimosa. I absolutely would not give that drink to her.

But part of a CC is getting what you want...these folks pay out 40k\year before they even hit a golf ball or grab dinner. This particular member makes one call and they would be looking for a new GM and asst. GM. What do you do in that situation? I think it was tough on everyone.

Well, glad to see you have your standards. As far as I'm concerned the adult woman had the same right to make that one call the old prejudiced fart was feared would make. You pulled that **** on me and you wouldn't have a job for long either.

Lovely place.

[Tredici]

And for the record, I've been in the situation. I've called people down on a 400 person trade floor for showing their ass and making racist remarks. Tolerance is a form of acceptance.

[ZachKC]

Well, glad to see you have your standards. As far as I'm concerned the adult woman had the same right to make that one call the old prejudiced fart was feared would make. You pulled that **** on me and you wouldn't have a job for long either.

Lovely place.

Ha, the only person that could make that call and make things happen was that one guy. If I had to serve him again I am not sure what I would have done. It all happened so fast...I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt that his problem with the plates was aesthetic in nature.

High end food service...its not a pretty industry. You learn a lot of **** about people and things you wish you didn't.

[Tredici]

Ha, the only person that could make that call and make things happen was that one guy. .

Which is exactly why some little snot nosed kid decided he could disrepect an adult woman who was breaking no laws in ordering an alcholic beverage. But trust me, the wrong woman and you wouldn't have kept a job either.

You lose on both accounts, Zach. One for the prejudice you happily displayed and the one you ignore by pretending asthetics. If you thought that were the case you wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

[broncocalijohn]

Ha, the only person that could make that call and make things happen was that one guy. If I had to serve him again I am not sure what I would have done. It all happened so fast...I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt that his problem with the plates was aesthetic in nature.

High end food service...its not a pretty industry. You learn a lot of **** about people and things you wish you didn't.


He has a right to be this racist and blantant about it. You, on the other hand, have a job to do and that is to serve. I agree about not serving the mimosa as it is a direct way of harming her baby. If you didnt have to work more on this table because a black was in the room, then you need to do your job and let him be. His racism doesnt affect you personally. CC is private and members get what they want. You dont need to agree on everything from a member but your job is in jeopardy if you make a stand on something that wont get anywhere. This problem is at the top and if they arent doing anything about it, it isnt your problem then. Seems the Asst manager likes his job too much to make a fuss. That is the only person that should have the beef in this situation.

[ZachKC]

He has a right to be this racist and blantant about it. You, on the other hand, have a job to do and that is to serve. I agree about not serving the mimosa as it is a direct way of harming her baby. If you didnt have to work more on this table because a black was in the room, then you need to do your job and let him be. His racism doesnt affect you personally. CC is private and members get what they want. You dont need to agree on everything from a member but your job is in jeopardy if you make a stand on something that wont get anywhere. This problem is at the top and if they arent doing anything about it, it isnt your problem then. Seems the Asst manager likes his job too much to make a fuss. That is the only person that should have the beef in this situation.

At what point did I say he didn't have a right to say the things he did?

Whats up with the straw man?

[ZachKC]

Which is exactly why some little snot nosed kid decided he could disrepect an adult woman who was breaking no laws in ordering an alcholic beverage. But trust me, the wrong woman and you wouldn't have kept a job either.

You lose on both accounts, Zach. One for the prejudice you happily displayed and the one you ignore by pretending asthetics. If you thought that were the case you wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

You really will go out of your way to be on a different side of any argument when it comes to me. Hilarious.

I sleep just fine disrespecting a lady who was pregnant and wanted to order an alcoholic drink.

I will be totally up front to say it was a weird situation and I didn't know how to handle it...I don't know everything. I was in the middle of service when I got the gist of what was going on and I kept doing my job. It is busy and high volume...I don't always have time to make huge moral judgments like you just got to all comfortable behind your keyboard.

Tredici championing the rights of pregnant women everywhere to get **** face wasted! Hoooray!!

[broncogary]

To get back to Wesley, I believe the reason he paid no taxes was because he claimed a total refund based on reparation due to slavery of the blacks. Obviously if he was white, that would be fraudulent. However, the IRS and courts treat it as tax fraud even if you're black.

So, since "mostly" only blacks claimed this refund, "mostly" only blacks would be charged with this.

So Wesley's right. It was based on race, since the refund he claimed was based on race.

[cutthemdown]

You really will go out of your way to be on a different side of any argument when it comes to me. Hilarious.

I sleep just fine disrespecting a lady who was pregnant and wanted to order an alcoholic drink.

I will be totally up front to say it was a weird situation and I didn't know how to handle it...I don't know everything. I was in the middle of service when I got the gist of what was going on and I kept doing my job. It is busy and high volume...I don't always have time to make huge moral judgments like you just got to all comfortable behind your keyboard.

Tredici championing the rights of pregnant women everywhere to get **** face wasted! Hoooray!!

I think most doctors would say one drink every once in awhile while pregnant isn't a big deal. Especially a Mimosa which isn't even full champaine.

[Tredici]

You really will go out of your way to be on a different side of any argument when it comes to me. Hilarious.

I sleep just fine disrespecting a lady who was pregnant and wanted to order an alcoholic drink.

I will be totally up front to say it was a weird situation and I didn't know how to handle it...I don't know everything. I was in the middle of service when I got the gist of what was going on and I kept doing my job. It is busy and high volume...I don't always have time to make huge moral judgments like you just got to all comfortable behind your keyboard.

Tredici championing the rights of pregnant women everywhere to get **** face wasted! Hoooray!!

I don't go out of my way, Zach. If you don't want differing opinions then perhaps you shouldn't post on a message board. And I am not championing the rights of pregnant women everywhere to get ****faced.

I am saying she is an adult. There are no laws against her having an alcoholic beverage. Many physicians actually tell their pregnant patients to have a glass of wine or a single beer, but hey, I'm sure you know what is best in a situation that is absolutely none of your business. You, on the other hand, are working a job where you earn money shagging drinks. So it's more than a moral dilemma, you are a hypocrite. If I owned the establishment I would've fired you, too.


Funny, about this paragraph:
I will be totally up front to say it was a weird situation and I didn't know how to handle it...I don't know everything. I was in the middle of service when I got the gist of what was going on and I kept doing my job. It is busy and high volume...I don't always have time to make huge moral judgments like you because when it came to not serving a drink to a person who had every legal right to order one that is EXACTLY what you did.

[fdf]

I will tell you a story...I am 23 so I assure you it didn't happen in the 60's or 70's.. . .

My wife has a permanent tan. We live in the burbs and she occasionally runs into people making assumptions about her (eg, they think she is our son's nanny) or act in ways that are stupid and racial. She just blows them off and we have a laugh about it at home. The perps have to be their hateful little selves. We don't. We win.

In the same way, there's a lot of stupid, rascist crap that folks with tans say about white guys like me. There's jobs I wanted and couldn't get because of my race. I blow it off and we laugh about it. The perps have to be their hateful little selves. We don't. We win.

It really is time to move on from all that crap. That means blowing the rascists off and getting on with our lives. People who let idiots make them angry and resentful deserve how they feel.

[Tredici]

It really is time to move on from all that crap. That means blowing the rascists off and getting on with our lives. People who let idiots make them angry and resentful deserve how they feel.

It's disgraceful how many idiots are apparently still out there. I've worked in such an integrated fashion for so many years now it makes it hard for me to believe there are still people who hold on to such unbelievably dumb ideas.

[-Slap-]

Anybody who takes a job in an environment that prides itself on exclusivity can't be surprised when members display contempt for the people being excluded.

[ZachKC]

Anybody who takes a job in an environment that prides itself on exclusivity can't be surprised when members display contempt for the people being excluded.

I think it was the extent which was a surprise to me.

[ZachKC]

I don't go out of my way, Zach. If you don't want differing opinions then perhaps you shouldn't post on a message board. And I am not championing the rights of pregnant women everywhere to get ****faced.

I am saying she is an adult. There are no laws against her having an alcoholic beverage. Many physicians actually tell their pregnant patients to have a glass of wine or a single beer, but hey, I'm sure you know what is best in a situation that is absolutely none of your business. You, on the other hand, are working a job where you earn money shagging drinks. So it's more than a moral dilemma, you are a hypocrite. If I owned the establishment I would've fired you, too.


Funny, about this paragraph:
I will be totally up front to say it was a weird situation and I didn't know how to handle it...I don't know everything. I was in the middle of service when I got the gist of what was going on and I kept doing my job. It is busy and high volume...I don't always have time to make huge moral judgments like you because when it came to not serving a drink to a person who had every legal right to order one that is EXACTLY what you did.
Tred, the message board know it all.

Lets try to reel back your fiction and get more to what the situation actually was. I know its rough not being able to use your fantasies on this pedestal you made for yourself...

The lady in question would not come in and drink a single one. She would generally have 3 to 4 during a given brunch. Hey, maybe that won't be a problem? Not sure, not a doctor. Everything I have learned makes it clear alcohol and pregnancy do not mix.

You would have fired me too? I was never terminated from the establishment. I was employed there until I moved away to where I reside right now in Kansas City where I have sealed up a photography job. Had I been fired? I would have had to qualms with it. I also would have gone to bed and looked myself in the mirror the next morning without shaking my head.

If the situation came up again? I would make the same decision. If you have a problem with that how about you just go yourself...get knocked up and kick back a few...I am sure it is just what the Doctor ordered right?

I have and will continue to judge someone based on their actions. Which for some reason you seem to be above?

I look forward to your response and the assumptions it will surely be based on.

[fontaine]

So are we assuming that Snipes is pulling out the race card and is full of bs because his attorneys are making claims of racism?

Anybody else think it's *****d up to assume that or is just me?

I can see how people get frustrated with bs claims of racism, sexism, whatever-ism but I think it's total nonsense to assume that this is a bs claim.

If racism is still prevelant today in certain areas (as Zach suggested) then doesn't it follow that claims of racism aren't all bs?

[cutthemdown]

So are we assuming that Snipes is pulling out the race card and is full of bs because his attorneys are making claims of racism?

Anybody else think it's *****d up to assume that or is just me?

I can see how people get frustrated with bs claims of racism, sexism, whatever-ism but I think it's total nonsense to assume that this is a bs claim.

If racism is still prevelant today in certain areas (as Zach suggested) then doesn't it follow that claims of racism aren't all bs?

It's outlandish claims like this that lead to people being frustrated.

[ZachKC]

If racism is still prevelant today in certain areas (as Zach suggested) then doesn't it follow that claims of racism aren't all bs?
Thats my main point. I make no claim to this particular instance...hell I didn't even read the thing. I saw Snipe's name and it made me think of that old movie. But I couldn't quite kick this "racism is a thing of past" notion when it came back. And then the response to the discussion seems to be that if some pretend it isn't there then it will go away.

[fontaine]

Thats my main point. I make no claim to this particular instance...hell I didn't even read the thing. I saw Snipe's name and it made me think of that old movie. But I couldn't quite kick this "racism is a thing of past" notion when it came back. And then the response to the discussion seems to be that if some pretend it isn't there then it will go away.

I don't know if racism is a thing of the past.

But I do know that any serious discussion and progression along those lines is diluted by people assuming racism claims are bs or examples of just "pulling out the race card" along with exagerrated claims of just that.

I think looking at it on a case by case basis is more crucial and in that I can appreciate your comments.

[v2micca]

While I will agree that it is stupid for him to be playing the race card, and do think he should be nailed for tax evasion if he indeed did fail to file for a 4 year period, I can kind of understand his gripe about the co-conspirator charge. According to Snipes, all he did was follow the advice of these guys like 2,000 other clients. Hell, Rosile even claims that he never met the guy. So, based on these claims the co-conspirator charges to seem to be a stretch. It's not unreasonable to speculate that Snipes is being singled out with those particular charges. But, I would attribute it more to his high profile celebrity status than his race.

[Tredici]

Tred, the message board know it all.

Lets try to reel back your fiction and get more to what the situation actually was. I know its rough not being able to use your fantasies on this pedestal you made for yourself...

The lady in question would not come in and drink a single one. She would generally have 3 to 4 during a given brunch. Hey, maybe that won't be a problem? Not sure, not a doctor. Everything I have learned makes it clear alcohol and pregnancy do not mix.

You would have fired me too? I was never terminated from the establishment. I was employed there until I moved away to where I reside right now in Kansas City where I have sealed up a photography job. Had I been fired? I would have had to qualms with it. I also would have gone to bed and looked myself in the mirror the next morning without shaking my head.

If the situation came up again? I would make the same decision. If you have a problem with that how about you just go yourself...get knocked up and kick back a few...I am sure it is just what the Doctor ordered right?

I have and will continue to judge someone based on their actions. Which for some reason you seem to be above?

I look forward to your response and the assumptions it will surely be based on.

I'm not basing my answer on any assumption.

Fact: You received money for a job which included serving alcholic beverages.

Fact: There is no law prohibiting a woman in any stage of pregnancy from consuming an alcoholic beverage.

Fact: If you don't do your job your employer has every right to fire you.

That's it. There is nothing "fictional" about it.

[ZachKC]

I'm not basing my answer on any assumption.

Fact: You received money for a job which included serving alcholic beverages.

Fact: There is no law prohibiting a woman in any stage of pregnancy from consuming an alcoholic beverage.

Fact: If you don't do your job your employer has every right to fire you.

That's it. There is nothing "fictional" about it.

I would have had no qualms with being fired. You see it is the "I would have fired you, too" part that gave me a chuckle. It was just the start of your fiction. Obviously in your head I had been fired already. Even if my employers had taken that myopic view of the situation I would have no problem with that. I will stand by my judgment any day. Seems you on the other hand will do anything for a buck. I have to look myself the mirror each day.

Lucky for me I was really good at what I did. Worked hard, had fun, made a lot of money, and didn't get pregnant chicks liquored up. I know that last part really disappoints you doesn't it?

Each year, up to 40,000 babies are born with some degree of alcohol-related damage

[Tredici]

I would have had no qualms with being fired. You see it is the "I would have fired you, too" part that gave me a chuckle. It was just the start of your fiction. Obviously in your head I had been fired already. Even if my employers had taken that myopic view of the situation I would have no problem with that. I will stand by my judgment any day. Seems you on the other hand will do anything for a buck. I have to look myself the mirror each day.

Lucky for me I was really good at what I did. Worked hard, had fun, made a lot of money, and didn't get pregnant chicks liquored up. I know that last part really disappoints you doesn't it?

Each year, up to 40,000 babies are born with some degree of alcohol-related damage

Perhaps it's because you didn't understand the context of the use of the word "too". One post said the woman would have every right to raise a stink and ask you be fired. The second post said the manager would have the right to fire you "too" for not doing the job you were willing to take a pay check for. Meaning: In this case the word too meant also.

So pretty much the rest of your hysterics weren't necessary. I'm a little disappointed in your reading comprehension skills but I know that has more to do with your eagerness to fire off a venomous response than to engage in a discussion.

[-Slap-]

I would have had no qualms with being fired. You see it is the "I would have fired you, too" part that gave me a chuckle. It was just the start of your fiction. Obviously in your head I had been fired already. Even if my employers had taken that myopic view of the situation I would have no problem with that. I will stand by my judgment any day. Seems you on the other hand will do anything for a buck. I have to look myself the mirror each day.

Lucky for me I was really good at what I did. Worked hard, had fun, made a lot of money, and didn't get pregnant chicks liquored up. I know that last part really disappoints you doesn't it?


Fat kid, you need to join us back here in reality one of these days. You toadied up to a bunch of racists and now, in retrospect, you're trying to somehow make yourself feel good about it. Way to champion the fight against fetal alcohol syndrome, though. You couldn't find your balls while David Duke is telling watermelon jokes, but damned if you didn't put your foot down over some woman's mimosa.

[broncocalijohn]

At what point did I say he didn't have a right to say the things he did?

Whats up with the straw man?

Dude, are you always defensive since you are on OUR site? I wasnt disagreeing with your Chief A$$. I was just pointing out that you probably did the right thing on both accounts. Go back and read my post as I never challenged you on that. You are now taking Mock's place for being a dense idiot. In his words, DIMWIT!

[fdf]

It's disgraceful how many idiots are apparently still out there. I've worked in such an integrated fashion for so many years now it makes it hard for me to believe there are still people who hold on to such unbelievably dumb ideas.

You are right. But that really wasn't my point. My point was that, if I let those idiots control how angry I am or how happy I am, then I am the idiot. As for the rascists of all colors, having to be themselves and live a life defined by inner hate and anger is punishment enough.

[Beantown Bronco]

Each year, up to 40,000 babies are born with some degree of alcohol-related damage

And about half of those are born in and around Kansas City.

[defenseman]

Wesley Snipes, needs to pay his taxes , just like some of us poor white folk. Then shut his primmadonna mouth..dman