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JCMElway
06-05-2007, 12:38 AM
OK, Ludo21, azbroncfan, and Eddiemac are in. That makes 16.


We will begin drafting tomorrow at 8 AM. The first drafter will have 24 hours to make thier selection. After a selection is made, please list the time and announce who is on the clock. And if you would PM the person who is next that'd be great. I am going to create an alltime NBA thread in the NBA forum and this message will be the first post. The order of the drafting will be second.

Remember, 24 hours for rounds one and two, 12 hours thereafter.

Round 1
1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSRelyea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --James Worthy
10.Freak6 --Kobe
11. Rhymes --CLyde Drexler
12. Clockwork --Barkley
13. Slap --Rick Barry
14. Master Pain --Reggie Miller
15. GSRelyea --Pete Maravich
16. KillerIcon –Nate Thurmond

Round 3
1. Killericon --Jason Kidd
2. GSRelyea --Nate Archibald
3. Master__Pain -- Dominique Wilkins
4. -Slap- - Kevin McHale
5. Clockwork –Alex English
6. Rhymesayers DU – LeBron James
7. Freak6 – Allen Iverson
8. Phibacka –D Wade
9. Angryllama – Dirk Novitsky
10. JCMElway –Bob Pettit
11. BobHorry5 –Ray Allen
12. AZBroncfan – Gary Payton
13. Ludo21 – Amere Stoudemire
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Alonzo Mourning
15. Eddie Mac -- George Mikan
16. Inkana7 -- Phil Jackson (Coach)

Round 4
1. Inkana7 -- Lenny Wikens (Guard)
2. Eddie Mac -- Elvin Hayes
3. VanceJohnson82 -- Bernard King
4. Ludo -- Carmello Anthony
5.AZbroncofan -- Mitch Richmond
6. BobHorry5 -- Maurice Cheeks
7. JCMElway -- Gilbert Arenas
8. Angry Llama -- Kevin Garnett
9.Phibacka -- Dave Bing
10.Freak6 -- Bob McAdoo
11. Rhymes -- Adrian Dantley
12. Clockwork -- Joe Dumars
13. Slap -- Dennis Johnson
14. Master Pain -- Artis Gilmore
15. GSRelyea -- Dave Cowens
16. KillerIcon –- Dave Debusschere

Round 5
1. Killericon -- Ben Wallace
2. GSRelyea -- Scottie Pippen
3. Master__Pain -- Dan Issel
4. Slap -- Bob Lanier
5. Clockwork –- Kevin Johnson
6. Rhymesayers DU –- Wes Unseld
7. Freak6 –- Robert Parrish
8. Phibacka –- Tracy McGrady
9. Angryllama –- Red Auerbach
10. JCMElway -- Jerry Lucas
11. BobHorry5 –- Bill Walton
12. AZBroncfan -- Chris Mullin
13. Ludo21 –- Greg Oden
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Grant Hill
15. Eddie Mac -- Earl Monroe
16. Inkana7 -- Vince Carter

Round 6
1. Inkana7 -- Horace Grant
2. Eddie Mac -- Dolph Schayes
3.VJ82 -- Dennis Rodman
4. Ludo -- Jeff Hornacek
5.AZbroncofan -- Dwight Howard
6. BobHorry5 -- Steve Kerr
7. JCMElway -- Hal Greer
8. Angry Llama -- Willis Reed
9.Phibacka -- Baron Davis
10.Freak6 -- Paul Pierce
11. Rhymes -- Sam Jones
12. Clockwork -- Larry Brown (Coach)
13. Man-Goblin -- Vinnie Johnson
14. Master Pain -- David Thompson
15. GSRelyea -- Billy Cunningham
16. KillerIcon –- Paul Arizin

Round 7
1. Killericon -- Pat Riley (Coach)
2. GSRelyea -- Bill Laimbeer
3. Master__Pain -- Tom Chambers
4. Man-Goblin -- Shawn Kemp
5. Clockwork –- Tony Parker
6. Rhymesayers DU – Michael Cooper
7. Freak6 –- Yao Ming
8. Phibacka –- Sabonis, Arvydas
9. Angryllama –- Mark Aguirre
10. JCMElway -- Robert Horry
11. BobHorry5 –- Dale Ellis
12. AZBroncfan -- Chirs Webber
13. Ludo21 –- Sam Cassel
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Maurice Lucas
15. Eddie Mac -- Walt Bellamy
16. Youcan -- Chris Bosh

Round 8
1. Youcan -- Buck Williams
2. Eddie Mac -- Mark Price
3.VJ82 -- Ron Artest
4. Ludo -- Connie Hawkins
5.AZbroncofan -- Tim Hardaway
6. BobHorry5 -- Dikembe Mutumbo
7. JCMElway -- Bobby Jones
8. Angry Llama -- Bill Sharman
9.Phibacka -- Mark Jackson
10.Freak6 -- Elton Brand
11. Rhymes -- Calvin Murphy
12. R Shack -- Brad Daugherty
13. Man Gob -- Chuck Daly
14. Master Pain -- Glen Rice
15. GSRelyea -- Drazen Petrovich
16. KillerIcon –- Mark Eaton

Round 9
1. Killericon -- George Yardley
2. GSRelyea -- Mookie Blaylock
3. Master__Pain -- Fat Lever
4. Man-Goblin -- Walter Davis
5. R Shack –- Stephon Marbury
6. Rhymesayers DU – Shawn Marion
7. Freak6 –- Chauncey Billups
8. Phibacka –- Jermaine O'Neal
9. Angryllama –- Rolando Blackmon
10. JCMElway -- Greg Popovich (Coach)
11. BobHorry5 –- Charles Oakley
12. AZBroncfan -- Sidney Moncrief
13. Ludo21 –- Paul Westphal
14. Vancejohnson82 -- World B Free
15. Eddie Mac -- Chet Walker
16. Youcan -- Manu Ginobli

Round 10
1. Youcan -- Bruce Bowen
2. Eddie Mac -- K.C. Jones (Guard)
3.VJ82 -- Emeka Okafor
4. Ludo -- Mike Shannahan (Coach)
5.AZbroncofan -- Detlef Schempf
6. BobHorry5 -- Lamar Odom
7. JCMElway -- Elmore Smith
8. Angry Llama -- George McGinnis
9.Phibacka -- Don Nelson (Coach)
10.Freak6 -- Shareef Abdur Raheem
11. Rhymes -- Marcus Camby
12. Rshack -- Danny Manning
13. Man-Goblin -- Joe Barry Carroll
14. Master Pain -- Larry Nance
15. GSRelyea -- Rasheed Wallace
16. KillerIcon –- Joe Fulks

Round 11
1. Killericon -- Allan Houston
2. GSRelyea -- Jerry Stackhouse
3. Master__Pain -- Eddie Jones
4. Man-Goblin -- Chris paul
5. Rshack –- Derrick Coleman
6. Rhymesayers DU –- Spencer Haywood
7. Freak6 –- Rod Strickland
8. Phibacka –- **May select at any time**
9. Angryllama –- Mel Daniels
10. JCMElway -- Gus Johnson
11. BobHorry5 –- Chuck Person
12. AZBroncfan -- Ralph Sampson
13. Ludo21 –- Leandro Barbosa
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Mugsy Bogues
15. Eddie Mac -- John Kundla (Coach)
16. Youcan -- Boris Diaw

Round 12
1. Inkana7 -- May select at any time
2. Eddie Mac -- Tom Heinson
3.VJ82 -- John Starks
4. Ludo -- Elliot "Socks" Perry
5.AZbroncofan -- Jerry Sloan (Player)
6. BobHorry5 -- Vlade Divac
7. JCMElway -- Hank Luisetti
8. Angry Llama -- Kevin Porter
9.Phibacka -- May select at any time
10.Freak6 -- Doug Moe (Coach)
11. Rhymes -- Gail Goodrich
12. R Shack -- Michael Finley
13. Man-Goblin -- Kiki Vandeweghe
14. Master Pain -- Otis Thorpe
15. GSRelyea -- Jack Sikma
16. KillerIcon –- Carlos Boozer

Round 13
1. Killericon-- TJ Ford
2. GSRelyea -- Dean Smith (Coach)
3. Master__Pain -- Red Holzman (Coach)
4. Man-Goblin -- Brad Miller
5. R Shack –- Rik Smits
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Jack Ramsay (Coach)
7. Freak6 –- Josh Smith
8. Phibacka –- **May select at any time**
9. Angryllama –- Anfernee Hardaway
10. JCMElway -- Don Buse
11. BobHorry5 –- Avery Johnson (Coach)
12. AZBroncfan -- Rudy Tomjonovich (Coach)
13. Ludo21 –- Tayshaun Prince
14. Vancejohnson82 -- **May select at any time**
15. Eddie Mac --
16. Inkana7 --

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 01:35 AM
Updated in round 12 before R Shackleford's selection.

Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem
Aguirre, Mark
Allen, Ray
Anthony, Carmello
Archibald, Nate
Arenas, Gilbert
Arizin, Paul
Artest, Ron
Auerbach, Red
Barbosa, Leandro
Barkley, Charles
Barry, Rick
Baylor, Elgin
Bellamy, Walt
Billups, Chauncey
Bing, Dave
Bird, Larry
Blackmon, Rolando
Blaylock, Mookie
Bogues, Muggsy
Boozer, Carlos
Bosh, Chris
Bowen, Bruce
Brand, Elton
Brown, Larry (coach)
Bryant, Kobe
Buse, Don
Camby, Marcus
Carroll, Joe Barry
Carter, Vince
Cassel, Sam
Chamberlain, Wilt
Chambers, Tom
Cheeks, Maurice
Coleman, Derrick
Cooper, Michael
Cousy, Bob
Cowens, Dave
Cunningham, Billy
Daly, Chuck (Coach)
Daniels, Mel
Dantley, Adrian
Daugherty, Brad
Davis, Walter
Debusschere, Dave
Diaw, Boris
Divac, Vlade
Drexler, Clyde
Dumars, Joe
Duncan, Tim
Eaton, Mark
Ellis, Dale
English, Alex
Erving, Julius
Ewing, Patrick
Finley, Michael
Ford, TJ
Frazier, Walt
Free, World B
Fulks, Joe
Garnett, Kevin
Gervin, George
Gilmore, Artis
Ginobli, Manu
Goodrich, Gail
Grant, Horace
Greer, Hal
Hardaway, Anfernee
Hardaway, Tim
Havlicek, John
Hawkins, Connie
Hayes, Elvin
Haywood, Spencer
Heinson, Tom
Hill, Grant
Holzman, Red (Coach)
Hornacek, Jeff
Horry, Robert
Houston, Allan
Howard, Dwight
Issel, Dan
Iverson, Allen
Jackson, Mark
Jackson, Phil (Coach)
James, Lebron
Johnson, Avery (Coach)
Johnson, Dennis
Johnson, Earvin
Johnson, Gus
Johnson, Kevin
Johnson, Vinnie
Jones, Bobby
Jones, Eddie
Jones, K.C. (Guard)
Jones, Sam
Jordan, Michael
Kemp, Shawn
Kerr, Steve
Kidd, Jason
King, Bernard
Kundla, John (Coach)
Laimbeer, Bill
Lanier, Bob
Lever, Fat
Lucas, Jerry
Lucas, Maurice
Luisetti, Hank
Malone, Karl
Malone, Moses
Manning, Danny
Maravich, Pete
Marbury, Stephon
Marion, Shawn
McAdoo, Bob
McGinnis, George
McGrady, Tracy
McHale, Kevin
Mikan, George
Miller, Brad
Miller, Reggie
Ming, Yao
Moe, Doug (Coach)
Moncrief, Sidney
Monroe, Earl
Mourning, Alanzo
Mullin, Chris
Murphy, Calvin
Mutumbo, Dikembe
Nance, Larry
Nash, Steve
Nelson, Don (Coach)
Noivitsky, Dirk
Oakley Charles
Oden, Greg
Odom, Lamar
Olajuwon, Hakeem
Okafor, Emeka
O'Neal, Jermaine
O'Neal, Shaquille
Parker, Tony
Parrish, Robert
Paul, Chris
Payton, Gary
Perry, Elliot
Person, Chuck
Petit, Bob
Petrovich, Drazen
Pierce, Paul
Pippen, Scottie
Popovich, Greg (Coach)
Porter, Kevin
Price, Mark
Prince, Tayshaun
Raheem, Shareef Abdur
Ramsay, Jack
Reed, Willis
Rice, Glen
Richmond, Mitch
Riley, Pat (Coach)
Robertson, Oscar
Robinson, David
Rodman, Dennis
Russel, Bill
Sabonis, Arvydas
Sampson, Ralph
Schayes, Dolph
Schrempf, Detlef
Sharman, Bill
Sikma, Jack
Sloan, Jerry (Player)
Smith, Dean (Coach)
Smith, Elmore
Smith, Josh
Smits, Rick
Stackhouse, Jerry
Stockton, John
Stoudemire, Amare
Strickland, Rod
Tomjonovich, Rudy (Coach)
Thomas, Isiah
Thompson, David
Thorpe, Otis
Thurmond, Nate
Unseld, Wes
Vandeweghe, Kiki
Wade, Dewayne
Walker, Chet
Wallace, Ben
Wallace, Rasheed
Walton, Bill
Webber, Chris
West, Jerry
Westphal, Paul (Guard)
Wilkins, Dominique
Wilkins, Lenny (Guard)
Williams, Buck
Worthy, James
Yardley, George

epicSocialism4tw
06-05-2007, 01:42 AM
Okay, Killericon...Jon Koncak is still on the board.

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 01:44 AM
Okay, Killericon...Jon Koncak is still on the board.

LOL

epicSocialism4tw
06-05-2007, 01:49 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com//basketball/nba/news/2001/02/22/sayitaintso_hawks/koncak.jpg

Koncak to the rack.

Killericon
06-05-2007, 02:45 AM
With the First Overall Selection of the All-Time NBA Draft, Killericon selects Shooting Guard Micheal Jordan.

http://www.michael-jordan.ws/images/michael4.jpg

After a standout career at the University of North Carolina, Jordan joined the NBA's Chicago Bulls in 1984. He quickly emerged as one of the stars of the league, entertaining crowds with his prolific scoring. His leaping ability, illustrated by performing slam dunks from the foul line at Slam Dunk Contests, earned him the nicknames "Air Jordan" and "His Airness." He also gained a reputation as one of the best defensive players in basketball. In 1991, he won his first NBA championship with the Bulls, and followed that with titles in 1992 and 1993, securing a "three-peat". Though Jordan abruptly left the NBA in October 1993 to pursue a career in baseball, he rejoined the Bulls in 1995 and led them to three additional championships (1996, 1997, and 1998). His 1995–96 Bulls team won an NBA record 72 regular season games. Jordan retired for a second time in 1999, but he returned for two more NBA seasons as a member of the Washington Wizards from 2001 to 2003. Jordan's individual accolades and accomplishments include five NBA MVP (Most Valuable Player) awards, ten All-NBA First Team designations, nine All-Defensive First Team honors, fourteen NBA All-Star game appearances, ten scoring titles, three stealing titles, and the 1988 NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award. He holds the NBA record for highest career regular season scoring average with 30.1 points per game, as well as averaging a record 33.4 points per game in the playoffs. In 1999, he was named the greatest North American athlete of the 20th century by ESPN, and was second to Babe Ruth on the Associated Press's list of athletes of the century.
Awards

* 14 time All-Star
* Olympic Gold Medal Winner—1984, 1992
* Five time MVP—1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998
* 7 time The Sporting News MVP
* Rookie of the Year—1984
* Defensive Player of the Year—1988
* 11 times All-NBA—10 times first team, 1 time second team
* 9 time All-Defensive First Team
* Sports Illustrated "Sportsman of the Year"—1991
* Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996

Records

* Most scoring titles—10
* Most NBA Finals MVP awards—6
* Highest career scoring average—30.12
* Highest career scoring average playoffs—33.45
* Most consecutive games scoring in double figures—866
* Highest single series scoring average NBA Finals—41.0 (1993)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AABL034%7EMichael-Jordan-Last-Shot-Photofile-Limited-Edition-Posters.jpghttp://www.sports-photos.com/catalog/images/MichaelJordan5CLR.tif.jpg

Killericon
06-05-2007, 02:46 AM
I decided I wasn't worthy of having Koncak aboard.

epicSocialism4tw
06-05-2007, 02:50 AM
I decided I wasn't worthy of having Koncak aboard.

Ah...wise decision. He can be quite intimidating.

Okay... now it gets a bit more interesting. Who goes #2?

Bill Russell? Bird? Magic? Chamberlain? Pooh Richardson?

Killericon
06-05-2007, 02:58 AM
Indeed. I'd pick Wilt, personally. He's the ony guy who I even gave a thought to other than Jordan.

****...Nash might not even be around when I pick next.

epicSocialism4tw
06-05-2007, 03:04 AM
Indeed. I'd pick Wilt, personally. He's the ony guy who I even gave a thought to other than Jordan.
****...Nash might not even be around when I pick next.


You could get some Pooh instead:

http://www.1-800-posters.com/Sports/7413.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-05-2007, 03:08 AM
Here's the "NBA top 50 at 50" for reference:


THE 50 GREATEST PLAYERS IN NBA HISTORY

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.nba.com/history/players/abduljabbar_summary.html)
Nate Archibald (http://www.nba.com/history/players/archibald_summary.html)
Paul Arizin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/arizin_summary.html)
Charles Barkley (http://www.nba.com/history/players/barkley_summary.html)
Rick Barry (http://www.nba.com/history/players/barry_summary.html)
Elgin Baylor (http://www.nba.com/history/players/baylor_summary.html)
Dave Bing (http://www.nba.com/history/players/bing_summary.html)
Larry Bird (http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_summary.html)
Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_summary.html)
Bob Cousy (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cousy_summary.html)
Dave Cowens (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cowens_summary.html)
Billy Cunningham (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cunningham_summary.html)
Dave DeBusschere (http://www.nba.com/history/players/debusschere_summary.html)
Clyde Drexler (http://www.nba.com/history/players/drexler_summary.html)
Julius Erving (http://www.nba.com/history/players/erving_summary.html)
Patrick Ewing (http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_summary.html)
Walt Frazier (http://www.nba.com/history/players/frazier_summary.html)
George Gervin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/gervin_summary.html)
Hal Greer (http://www.nba.com/history/players/greer_summary.html)
John Havlicek (http://www.nba.com/history/players/havlicek_summary.html)
Elvin Hayes (http://www.nba.com/history/players/hayes_summary.html)
Magic Johnson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/johnsonm_summary.html)
Sam Jones (http://www.nba.com/history/players/sjones_summary.html)
Michael Jordan (http://www.nba.com/history/players/jordan_summary.html)
Jerry Lucas (http://www.nba.com/history/players/lucasj_summary.html)
Karl Malone (http://www.nba.com/history/players/malonek_summary.html)
Moses Malone (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mmalone_summary.html)
Pete Maravich (http://www.nba.com/history/players/maravich_summary.html)
Kevin McHale (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mchale_summary.html)
George Mikan (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mikan_summary.html)
Earl Monroe (http://www.nba.com/history/players/monroe_summary.html)
Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.nba.com/history/players/olajuwon_summary.html)
Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shaquille_oneal/index.html)
Robert Parish (http://www.nba.com/history/players/parish_summary.html)
Bob Pettit (http://www.nba.com/history/players/pettit_summary.html)
Scottie Pippen (http://www.nba.com/history/players/pippen_summary.html)
Willis Reed (http://www.nba.com/history/players/reed_summary.html)
Oscar Robertson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/robertson_summary.html)
David Robinson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/robinson_summary.html)
Bill Russell (http://www.nba.com/history/players/russell_summary.html)
Dolph Schayes (http://www.nba.com/history/players/schayes_summary.html)
Bill Sharman (http://www.nba.com/history/players/sharman_summary.html)
John Stockton (http://www.nba.com/history/players/stockton_summary.html)
Isiah Thomas (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thomas_summary.html)
Nate Thurmond (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thurmond_summary.html)
Wes Unseld (http://www.nba.com/history/players/unseld_summary.html)
Bill Walton (http://www.nba.com/history/players/walton_summary.html)
Jerry West (http://www.nba.com/history/players/west_summary.html)
Lenny Wilkens (http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkens_summary.html) James Worthy (http://www.nba.com/history/players/worthy_summary.html)

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 03:50 AM
Here's the "NBA top 50 at 50" for reference:


THE 50 GREATEST PLAYERS IN NBA HISTORY

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.nba.com/history/players/abduljabbar_summary.html)
Nate Archibald (http://www.nba.com/history/players/archibald_summary.html)
Paul Arizin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/arizin_summary.html)
Charles Barkley (http://www.nba.com/history/players/barkley_summary.html)
Rick Barry (http://www.nba.com/history/players/barry_summary.html)
Elgin Baylor (http://www.nba.com/history/players/baylor_summary.html)
Dave Bing (http://www.nba.com/history/players/bing_summary.html)
Larry Bird (http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_summary.html)
Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_summary.html)
Bob Cousy (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cousy_summary.html)
Dave Cowens (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cowens_summary.html)
Billy Cunningham (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cunningham_summary.html)
Dave DeBusschere (http://www.nba.com/history/players/debusschere_summary.html)
Clyde Drexler (http://www.nba.com/history/players/drexler_summary.html)
Julius Erving (http://www.nba.com/history/players/erving_summary.html)
Patrick Ewing (http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_summary.html)
Walt Frazier (http://www.nba.com/history/players/frazier_summary.html)
George Gervin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/gervin_summary.html)
Hal Greer (http://www.nba.com/history/players/greer_summary.html)
John Havlicek (http://www.nba.com/history/players/havlicek_summary.html)
Elvin Hayes (http://www.nba.com/history/players/hayes_summary.html)
Magic Johnson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/johnsonm_summary.html)
Sam Jones (http://www.nba.com/history/players/sjones_summary.html)
Michael Jordan (http://www.nba.com/history/players/jordan_summary.html)
Jerry Lucas (http://www.nba.com/history/players/lucasj_summary.html)
Karl Malone (http://www.nba.com/history/players/malonek_summary.html)
Moses Malone (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mmalone_summary.html)
Pete Maravich (http://www.nba.com/history/players/maravich_summary.html)
Kevin McHale (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mchale_summary.html)
George Mikan (http://www.nba.com/history/players/mikan_summary.html)
Earl Monroe (http://www.nba.com/history/players/monroe_summary.html)
Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.nba.com/history/players/olajuwon_summary.html)
Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shaquille_oneal/index.html)
Robert Parish (http://www.nba.com/history/players/parish_summary.html)
Bob Pettit (http://www.nba.com/history/players/pettit_summary.html)
Scottie Pippen (http://www.nba.com/history/players/pippen_summary.html)
Willis Reed (http://www.nba.com/history/players/reed_summary.html)
Oscar Robertson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/robertson_summary.html)
David Robinson (http://www.nba.com/history/players/robinson_summary.html)
Bill Russell (http://www.nba.com/history/players/russell_summary.html)
Dolph Schayes (http://www.nba.com/history/players/schayes_summary.html)
Bill Sharman (http://www.nba.com/history/players/sharman_summary.html)
John Stockton (http://www.nba.com/history/players/stockton_summary.html)
Isiah Thomas (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thomas_summary.html)
Nate Thurmond (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thurmond_summary.html)
Wes Unseld (http://www.nba.com/history/players/unseld_summary.html)
Bill Walton (http://www.nba.com/history/players/walton_summary.html)
Jerry West (http://www.nba.com/history/players/west_summary.html)
Lenny Wilkens (http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkens_summary.html) James Worthy (http://www.nba.com/history/players/worthy_summary.html)

They really hurt the legitimacy of the list by putting Scottie Pippen on it.

GSRelyea
06-05-2007, 09:35 AM
With the 2nd pick in the draft I select:
Wilt Chamberlain

He was basketball's unstoppable force, the most awesome offensive force the game has ever seen. Asked to name the greatest players ever to play basketball, most fans and aficionados would put Wilt Chamberlain at or near the top of the list. Dominating the game as few players in any sport ever have, Chamberlain seemed capable of scoring and rebounding at will, despite the double- and triple-teams and constant fouling tactics that opposing teams used to try to shut him down. As Oscar Robertson put it in the Philadelphia Daily News when asked whether Chamberlain was the best ever, "The books don't lie." more...

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Complete Bio | Summary | Complete Stats
G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,045 .540 .511 23,924 22.9 4,643 4.4 31,419 30.1

Full Name: Wilton Norman Chamberlain
Born: 8/21/36 in Philadelphia
Died: 10/12/99 in Los Angeles
High School: Overbrook (Philadelphia)
College: Kansas
Drafted by: Philadelphia Warriors (1959)
Transactions: Traded to Philadelphia 76ers,
1/15/65; Traded to Los Angeles Lakers, 7/9/68 Nickname: WIlt the Stilt; The Big Dipper
Height: 7-1; Weight: 275 lbs.
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1978); NBA champion (1967, '72); NBA Finals MVP (1972); NBA MVP (1960, '66, '67, '68); All-NBA First Team (1960, '61, '62, '64, '66, '67, '68); Second Team ('63, '65, '72); All-Defensive First Team (1972, '73); Rookie of Year (1960); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 09:36 AM
They really hurt the legitimacy of the list by putting Scottie Pippen on it.

Agreed.

Master__Pain is on the clock. He has until 8 AM CST to make his selection.

RhymesayersDU
06-05-2007, 10:19 AM
They really hurt the legitimacy of the list by putting Scottie Pippen on it.

I agree, however, in fairness, I think at the time it made sense, it was believed that he was just as big of a part of the rings as MJ, etc.

But yeah, looking back, let's just call it the 49 best of all time.

GSRelyea
06-05-2007, 10:21 AM
I just hope JR Reid is available when my next pick arrives.

ludo21
06-05-2007, 12:20 PM
how many rounds are we going?

vancejohnson82
06-05-2007, 02:59 PM
don't you guys know that Sam Bowie is out there

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 05:02 PM
how many rounds are we going?

We are going 13 rounds. 12 players and one coach.

Master___Pain
06-05-2007, 06:16 PM
With the 3rd selection Master Pain selects Mr. Showtime Earvin "Magic" Johnson

(as seen here dominating the #1 pick ;D)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGK122~Magic-Johnson-Michael-Jordan-Photofile-Posters.jpg

Killericon
06-05-2007, 06:40 PM
With the 3rd selection Master Pain selects Mr. Showtime Earvin "Magic" Johnson

(as seen here dominating the #1 pick ;D)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGK122~Magic-Johnson-Michael-Jordan-Photofile-Posters.jpg

"There's Michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us."

—Magic Johnson

Master___Pain
06-05-2007, 06:46 PM
"There's Michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us."

—Magic Johnson

Truer words have never been spoken

Master___Pain
06-05-2007, 08:34 PM
is this draft order snaking or the same in each round?

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 08:40 PM
is this draft order snaking or the same in each round?

Snaking. You're gonna have to wait a while MP.....

-Slap-
06-05-2007, 09:36 PM
With the 4th selection...

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2001/nbalogomz1.jpg

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 09:36 PM
I agree, however, in fairness, I think at the time it made sense, it was believed that he was just as big of a part of the rings as MJ, etc.

But yeah, looking back, let's just call it the 49 best of all time.

Dominique Wilkins should have made the list over Pippen. Wilkins was the best player on some excellent Hawks teams in the 80's that likely would have made it to a couple of NBA Finals had it not been for the Celtics dominating the Eastern Conference for most of the decade.

JCMElway
06-05-2007, 09:42 PM
Clockwork Orange is on the clock. He has until 7:00 PM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 10:01 PM
With the 5th selection of the all-time NBA Draft, I am proud to select Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, C, Bucks/Lakers.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGZ061_8x10~Kareem-Abdul-Jabbar-Hook-Shot-Posters.jpg

Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1969-70 22 MIL NBA 82 43.1 11.4 22.1 5.9 9.1 14.5 4.1 3.5 28.8
1970-71 23 MIL NBA 82 40.1 13.0 22.5 5.7 8.3 16.0 3.3 3.2 31.7
1971-72 24 MIL NBA 81 44.2 14.3 24.9 6.2 9.0 16.6 4.6 2.9 34.8
1972-73 25 MIL NBA 76 42.8 12.9 23.3 4.3 6.1 16.1 5.0 2.7 30.2
1973-74 26 MIL NBA 81 43.8 11.7 21.7 3.6 5.2 3.5 11.0 14.5 4.8 1.4 3.5 2.9 27.0
1974-75 27 MIL NBA 65 42.3 12.5 24.4 5.0 6.6 3.0 11.0 14.0 4.1 1.0 3.3 3.2 30.0
1975-76 28 LAL NBA 82 41.2 11.1 21.1 5.5 7.8 3.3 13.5 16.9 5.0 1.5 4.1 3.6 27.7
1976-77 29 LAL NBA 82 36.8 10.8 18.7 4.6 6.5 3.2 10.0 13.3 3.9 1.2 3.2 3.2 26.2
1977-78 30 LAL NBA 62 36.5 10.7 19.4 4.4 5.6 3.0 9.9 12.9 4.3 1.7 3.0 3.4 2.9 25.8
1978-79 31 LAL NBA 80 39.5 9.7 16.8 4.4 5.9 2.6 10.2 12.8 5.4 1.0 4.0 3.5 2.9 23.8
1979-80 32 LAL NBA 82 38.3 10.2 16.9 0.0 0.0 4.4 5.8 2.3 8.5 10.8 4.5 1.0 3.4 3.6 2.6 24.8
1980-81 33 LAL NBA 80 37.2 10.5 18.2 0.0 0.0 5.3 6.9 2.5 7.8 10.3 3.4 0.7 2.9 3.1 3.1 26.2
1981-82 34 LAL NBA 76 35.2 9.9 17.1 0.0 0.0 4.1 5.8 2.3 6.4 8.7 3.0 0.8 2.7 3.0 2.9 23.9
1982-83 35 LAL NBA 79 32.3 9.1 15.5 0.0 0.0 3.5 4.7 2.1 5.4 7.5 2.5 0.8 2.2 2.5 2.8 21.8
1983-84 36 LAL NBA 80 32.8 9.0 15.5 0.0 0.0 3.6 4.9 2.1 5.2 7.3 2.6 0.7 1.8 2.8 2.6 21.5
1984-85 37 LAL NBA 79 33.3 9.2 15.3 0.0 0.0 3.7 5.0 2.1 5.8 7.9 3.2 0.8 2.1 2.5 3.0 22.0
1985-86 38 LAL NBA 79 33.3 9.6 16.9 0.0 0.0 4.3 5.6 1.7 4.4 6.1 3.5 0.8 1.6 2.6 3.1 23.4
1986-87 39 LAL NBA 78 31.3 7.2 12.7 0.0 0.0 3.1 4.4 1.9 4.8 6.7 2.6 0.6 1.2 2.4 3.1 17.5
1987-88 40 LAL NBA 80 28.9 6.0 11.3 0.0 0.0 2.6 3.4 1.5 4.5 6.0 1.7 0.6 1.2 2.0 2.7 14.6
1988-89 41 LAL NBA 74 22.9 4.2 8.9 0.0 0.0 1.6 2.2 1.4 3.1 4.5 1.0 0.5 1.1 1.3 2.6 10.1
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
20 Seasons 1560 36.8 10.2 18.1 0.0 0.0 4.3 6.0 2.4 7.6 11.2 3.6 0.9 2.6 2.7 3.0 24.6


19 time All-Star

6 time league MVP

2 time Finals MVP

10 time All-NBA 1st team

5 time All-NBA 2nd team

5 time All-Defense 1st team

6 time All-Defense 2nd team

1969-70 NBA Rookie of the Year

Ranks in the top 10 all time in the following categories, games played (2nd), minutes played (1st), points (1st), field goals (1st), field goal attempts (1st), field goal percentage (9th), free throws made (7th), free throws attempted (5th), defensive rebounds (6th), total rebounds (4th), blocked shots (3rd), blocks per game (9th)

Won 6 NBA Championships

-Slap-
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Look at all these Lakers!

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 10:23 PM
There should be a run on Celtics before too long.

RhymesayersDU
06-05-2007, 10:29 PM
With the 6th selection of the All-Time NBA Draft:

Edit: new picture!

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/Herky_01/kazaam.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEyISaocyMb9kUig2nxHhCJzTFxMw

Clockwork Orange
06-06-2007, 12:01 AM
Despite the photo malfunction, I believe Rhyme's selection is Shaquille O'Neal.

RhymesayersDU
06-06-2007, 12:03 AM
Jesus, they got me hot linking for like an hour!

Word, I pick Shaq. I had a SWEET Kazaam movie picture up. What a flop.

Killericon
06-06-2007, 12:59 AM
Who did -Slap- pick? I only see the NBA logo, so I must be missing something.

epicSocialism4tw
06-06-2007, 01:04 AM
Who did -Slap- pick? I only see the NBA logo, o I msut be missing something.

Jerry West is the silhouette in the photo. -Schlep- picked Jerry West.

Killericon
06-06-2007, 01:39 AM
Jerry West is the silhouette in the photo. -Schlep- picked Jerry West.

I knew I was missing something.

JCMElway
06-06-2007, 01:49 AM
Freak6 is on the clock. He has until 9 PM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

Gentlemen, please remember to record the time of your selection in the post. I can never get the damn OM clock to function correctly. Also, if you announce who is on the clock that'd be helpful as well. Thanks!

epicSocialism4tw
06-06-2007, 11:28 PM
"The Mantis" is still on the board.
http://www.cracked.com/img/articles/art_24_shawn.jpg

JCMElway
06-06-2007, 11:41 PM
We were going pretty strong, but we have our first missed selection already. Ah well, whattaya gonna do?

Phibacka is on the clock. He has until 9 PM CST Thursday to make his pick.

Freak 6 may make a selection at any time.

azbroncfan
06-07-2007, 01:53 AM
I wonder when Mad Yak selects Dirk?

phibacka31
06-07-2007, 02:23 AM
With the 7th pick in the Draft Phibacka31 selects

Tim Duncan C/PF SA SPURShttp://www.kotaku.com/gaming/Tim_Duncan.jpg






Pick made: 12:19 AM Thusday

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2007, 03:02 AM
This dude possibly should have gone #2, so I'll gladly sweep him up at pick #9. He's what Greg Oden can only dream of becoming, and is arguably the greatest defensive player to ever lace up the canvas kicks.

While Chamberlain was padding stats, Russell was winning championships.
http://membres.lycos.fr/jujoseph/Bill_Russell_vs_Wilt_Chamberlain_1970.jpg
http://www.historylink.org/db_images/brussell.JPG

Laker Killer
http://www.sportsfanoutlet.com/images_cat/mounted/2005/FRT-16PHRUS660.jpg
http://perso.orange.fr/nba-history/images/photos/BillRussellDunk66_400.jpg

http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2005/11/23/1132773218_7131.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2007, 03:05 AM
Full Name: William Felton Russell
Born: 2/12/34 in Monroe, La.
High School: McClymonds (Oakland)
College: San Francisco
Drafted: St. Louis Hawks, 1956
Transactions: Draft rights traded to Boston Celtics, 4/29/56
Height: 6-10; Weight: 220 lbs http://www.nba.com/media/history/russell_100_030119.jpg Honors: Elected to Naismith Basketball Basketball Hall of Fame (1975); NBA champion (1957, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '68, '69); NBA MVP (1958, '61, '62, '63, '65); All-NBA First Team (1959, '63, '65); Eight-time All-NBA Second Team; NBA All-Defensive Team (1969); 12-time NBA All-Star (1958-69); All-Star MVP (1963); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist (1956). Complete Bio | Summary (http://www.nba.com/history/players/russell_summary.html)

Bill Russell was the cornerstone of the Boston Celtics' dynasty of the 1960s, an uncanny shotblocker who revolutionized NBA defensive concepts. A five-time NBA Most Valuable Player and a 12-time All-Star, the angular center amassed 21,620 career rebounds, an average of 22.5 per game and led the league in rebounding four times. He had 51 boards in one game, 49 in two others and a dozen consecutive seasons of 1,000 or more rebounds.
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Ken Regan/NBAE/Getty ImagesHis many individual accolades were well deserved, but they were only products of Russell's philosophy of team play. His greatest accomplishment was bringing the storied Celtics 11 championships in his 13 seasons. Until the ascent of Michael Jordan in the 1980s, Russell was acclaimed by many as the greatest player in the history of the NBA.
William Felton Russell was born on February 12, 1934, in Monroe, Louisiana. His family moved cross-country to the San Francisco Bay Area, where Bill attended McClymonds High School in Oakland. He was an awkward, unremarkable center on McClymonds's basketball team, but his size earned him a scholarship to play at the University of San Francisco, where he blossomed.
Russell grew to be a shade over 6-9, and he teamed with guard K. C. Jones (http://www.nba.com/history/players/kcjones_summary.html) to lead the Dons to 56 consecutive victories and NCAA Championships in 1955 and 1956 (although Jones missed four games of the 1956 tournament because his eligibility had expired). Russell was named the NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player in 1955.
Russell averaged 20.7 points and 20.3 rebounds in his three-year varsity career. By his senior season he had matured into a dominant force who could control a game at the defensive end. With the 1956 NBA Draft approaching, Boston Celtics Coach and General Manager Red Auerbach was eager to add Russell to his lineup. Auerbach had built a high-scoring offensive machine around guards Bob Cousy (http://www.nba.com/history/players/cousy_summary.html) and Bill Sharman (http://www.nba.com/history/players/sharman_summary.html) and undersized center Ed Macauley, but he hadn't been able to muster the defense and rebounding needed to transform the Celtics into a championship-caliber club. Russell, Auerbach felt, was the missing piece to the puzzle.
However, because of their second-place finish the year before, the Celtics would be picking too late in the draft to get Russell. And because Auerbach wanted to use a territorial selection to nab Holy Cross star Tom Heinsohn (http://www.nba.com/history/players/heinsohn_summary.html), Boston would forfeit its first-round pick altogether. So Auerbach began to think trade, and he set his sights on the St. Louis Hawks, who owned the second overall pick in the draft.
The first pick belonged to the Rochester Royals, but that team already had a promising young rebounder in Maurice Stokes, and Auerbach knew that Royals owner Les Harrison was not going to pay Russell the $25,000 signing bonus he was asking for. Rochester selected guard Sihugo Green, who played nine seasons in the league with five different teams (including, ironically, the Celtics in 1965-66).
St. Louis owner Ben Kerner was willing to talk trade, and the key was Macauley. The 6-8 center was a six-time All-Star at that point and a local hero in St. Louis, where he had grown up and then starred for St. Louis University. Auerbach could afford to give up Macauley if he was getting Russell, but it was not until Boston agreed to add rookie Cliff Hagan to the mix that Kerner consented to the trade. The deal brought the Hawks a championship in 1958, but it brought the Celtics a dynasty.
In that same draft, Boston added Heinsohn, who would be NBA Rookie of the Year for 1956-57, and K. C. Jones, Russell's college teammate who would also become a stalwart of the Boston juggernaut.
Russell didn't join the Celtics until December because he was a member of the 1956 U.S. Olympic basketball team, which won a gold medal at the Melbourne Games in November. The Celtics had bolted to a 13-3 start, and when Russell arrived he adapted quickly. Playing in 48 games, he pulled down 19.6 rpg, the best average in the league, while scoring 14.7 ppg.
Boston's starting five of Russell, Heinsohn, Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, and Jim Loscutoff was a high-octane unit. They posted the best regular-season record in the NBA in 1956-57, waltzed through the playoffs, and were heavily favored in the Finals against Bob Pettit (http://www.nba.com/history/players/pettit_summary.html)'s St. Louis Hawks. The teams traded victories until the series came down to a dramatic Game 7 in Boston. Tom Heinsohn scored 37 points for Boston, but the Celtics couldn't pull away. Last-second scores by the Hawks sent the game into overtime and then into a second extra period. The Celtics finally prevailed, 125-123, for their first NBA Championship.
In only part of a season Russell had added a new element to the Celtics and to professional basketball. For the previous few years, the Celtics had been an unstoppable offensive machine led by 20-point scorers Cousy and Sharman, both future Hall of Famers. But Boston had lacked the rebounding and defense to win it all. Now Russell brought a new level of defensive artistry, intimidating opponents with blocked shots and proving that it didn't take a scorer to dominate a game.
Energized by their championship, the Celtics won 14 straight games to start the 1957-58 season, and they kept rolling. In his first full season in the NBA, Russell took command and led the league with 22.7 rpg. Early in the season, against the Philadelphia Warriors, he set an NBA record for rebounds in a half by grabbing 32 and wound up with 49 for the contest. Although he was tough and durable, the slender Russell was not a muscleman or a big banger. His rebounding prowess derived from positioning, anticipating where the shot would come off of the rim and moving quickly to the ball. His game was as much analytical and mental as it was physical.
Boston posted the league's best regular-season record that year, finishing atop the Eastern Division at 49-23. The Celtics then returned to the NBA Finals for a rematch with the Hawks, who had won the West with a 41-31 mark. The teams split the first two games at Boston Garden, but when Russell went down with an ankle injury in Game 3, the Celtics' fortunes plummeted. With Russell ineffective the rest of the way, St. Louis won that game and two of the next three to take the series.
Russell was voted the NBA Most Valuable Player for 1957-58. Oddly enough, he was only named to the All-NBA Second Team. In fact, during the five years that Russell was voted league MVP, only twice did he make the All-NBA First Team. The argument was that, while other centers were better than Russell -- that is, they had more conventional skills -- no player meant more to his team.
Russell repeated as the NBA rebounding leader in 1958-59, grabbing 23.0 per game, the first of seven consecutive campaigns in which he averaged at least 23 boards. Russell was also known for extending his effort at critical moments, both within a game and within a season. Consequently, he typically improved his rebounding numbers during the playoffs, and in the 1959 postseason he pulled down 27.7 boards per game.
The Celtics reached the NBA Finals for a third straight season and regained the crown with a four-game sweep of the Minneapolis Lakers. Russell set a Finals record with 29.5 rpg in the series, and he helped launch the greatest championship run in the history of professional sports. Boston's 1959 title began an unprecedented and unequaled string of eight consecutive NBA Championships.
Interestingly, although Russell was not considered a skilled offensive player, he was a selective shooter and in his early years ranked regularly among the NBA's top five in field-goal percentage. In 1958-59, for example, his .457 mark was second in the league.
Russell's greatest adversary, Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_summary.html), entered the NBA and joined the Philadelphia Warriors for the 1959-60 season, setting up a decade-long rivalry. The debate over who was the greater player would last even longer. Chamberlain put up incredible numbers during the period in which the two went head to head, but Russell helped the Celtics hang nine NBA championship flags in the Garden in his first 10 seasons.
As Celtics player Don Nelson told the Boston Herald, "There are two types of superstars. One makes himself look good at the expense of the other guys on the floor. But there's another type who makes the players around him look better than they are, and that's the type Russell was."
Chamberlain led the league in scoring (37.6 ppg) in his first season, and he took the rebounding crown from Russell, 27.0 to 24.0 rpg. The Celtics' center had one monstrous game, however, when he pulled down 51 rebounds against the Syracuse Nationals in the 1959-1960 season. It ranks as the second-best rebounding effort in NBA history, behind Chamberlain's 55 against the Celtics on the next season.
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"There are two types of superstars. One makes himself look good at the expense of the other guys on the floor. But there's another type who makes the players around him look better than they are, and that's the type Russell was."
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What became clear, both during the 1959-60 season and over the next several years, was that basketball was a team game. As Russell later wrote: "To me, one of the most beautiful things to see is a group of men coordinating their efforts toward a common goal, alternately subordinating and asserting themselves to achieve real teamwork in action. I tried to do that, we all tried to do that, on the Celtics. I think we succeeded."
Chamberlain was great, but the Celtics were better. They improved their regular-season record to 59-16 in 1959-60, at one point running off 17 straight victories. They eliminated Chamberlain and the Warriors in the division finals, then met St. Louis again in the 1960 NBA Finals. Russell stepped up his play in the title series, setting an NBA Finals record with 40 rebounds in Game 2 (surpassed by Chamberlain with 41in 1967) . The Hawks extended the series to seven games, but Russell dominated Game 7, contributing 22 points and 35 rebounds as the Celtics won, 122-103, and notched their second consecutive championship.
While Russell was changing the way the NBA viewed defense, the league still appeared to be in an era of runaway offense, with Chamberlain leading the way. Even the defense-oriented Celtics averaged 124.5 points. Russell's impact on the game can't really be tracked through NBA statistics. Blocked shots were not an official statistic until 1973-74, and the league only recorded total rebounds, without distinguishing between offensive and defensive boards until that same season.
Russell was revolutionizing the game in ways that were clearly understood, even if they weren't measured. His ability to leave his man and slide over to cover an opponent driving to the hoop was startling. He was unmatched at swooping across the lane like a big bird to block and alter shots. The rest of the Celtics defenders began to funnel their men toward Russell and become more daring with their perimeter defense, knowing that he was looming behind.
All of this played mind games with opposing shooters near the basket and had a disrupting effect as they began to sense Russell's imposing presence. Furthermore, other centers started to model their own defensive play after Russell's, and while they might not have been as skillful at it, it changed the way the game was played. Interestingly, Russell's style of play also rejuvenated Boston's offense. Many of the Celtics' points now came when Russell plucked a defensive rebound and fired an outlet pass to Bob Cousy, who would start Boston's vaunted and deadly fast break.
The dynasty was beginning to establish itself under Red Auerbach, and "Boston Celtics" and "NBA champions" became practically synonymous as the decade progressed. The team was multitalented, with many great players, but the enduring image was that of Russell, his head thrust forward from the slight hunch of his shoulders, his eyes scanning the court, his long left arm snaking out to deflect a shot. Boston won the title again in 1960-61, and Russell was named NBA Most Valuable Player, the first of his three consecutive MVP Awards.
The next season, 1961-62, saw Russell register an 18.9 scoring average, his career high. Chamberlain's individual accomplishments were mind-boggling: he won the scoring title by averaging 50.4 points, while the team-oriented Celtics didn't place anybody in the top 10. The NBA players, voting for MVP, chose Russell over Chamberlain.
The Celtics added another future Hall of Famer, John Havlicek (http://www.nba.com/history/players/havlicek_summary.html), in the 1962 NBA Draft and lost Bob Cousy to retirement at the end of the 1962-63 season. In what had become an annual routine, Boston won its fifth consecutive NBA title in 1963, and Russell claimed his third consecutive MVP Award.
The legendary center later called the 1963-64 Celtics team the best of his era. Although it was merely competent on offense, he felt it was the best defensive unit ever. Russell once again led the league in rebounding, with 24.7 rpg, his all-time high. The Celtics, rolling inexorably, topped the San Francisco Warriors in the Finals in five games, taking their sixth consecutive title, something no team in any sport at the major league level had accomplished before.
It was an era of such sustained achievement, for Russell and for the team, that even spectacular accomplishments seemed almost routine. Russell repeated as NBA rebounding leader in 1964-65, collecting 24.1 rpg, including a 49-rebound game against the Detroit Pistons that season. He also ranked fifth in the league in assists with 5.3 per game. The season's most dramatic moments came in Game 7 of the Eastern Division Finals, when the Celtics led, 110-109, with five seconds remaining against Chamberlain and the Philadelphia 76ers. Russell's inbounds pass hit a wire supporting the basket, giving the Sixers the ball with no time elapsed on the clock. Philadelphia's Hal Greer (http://www.nba.com/history/players/greer_summary.html) inbounded to Chet Walker (http://www.nba.com/history/players/walker_summary.html), but Havlicek stole the ball to seal the victory.

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2007, 03:08 AM
(continued from above)

That moment as called by famed Celtics broadcaster Johnny Most is an NBA treasure. In his gravelly voice Most screamed, "Havlicek steals it. Over to Sam Jones. Havlicek stole the ball! It's all over! Johnny Havlicek stole the ball!"
The NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers was almost anticlimactic, as the Celtics claimed the championship in five games. For his play that season, Russell won his fifth and final NBA Most Valuable Player Award.
Following another NBA Championship in 1965-66, Red Auerbach retired, and Russell took over as player-coach the following season, becoming the first African-American coach in the league. He led Boston to a 60-21 regular-season record, but the Celtics finally had their string of championships snapped when they lost to a powerful Philadelphia 76ers team in the Eastern Division Finals. The Sixers went 68-13 in the regular season and is considered one of the league's best ever, trounced the Celtics in five games to advance to the NBA Finals.
After that one-year hiatus, Boston returned to form in 1967-68, recapturing the championship under Russell's direction. In the Eastern Division Finals, the club came back from a two-game deficit to force a seventh game with Chamberlain and the 76ers. The Celtics were leading, 97-95, with 34 seconds left when Russell took over. He sank a foul shot, blocked a shot by Walker, grabbed a rebound off a Greer miss, and fed the ball to Sam Jones, who made the final basket in a 100-96 triumph. Boston then beat Los Angeles in six games in the NBA Finals.
The 1968-69 season was even more gratifying. The aging Celtics barely made it into the playoffs with a 48-34 record, then caught fire in the postseason. In Russell's third year as player-coach, Boston repeated as NBA champion by defeating the Lakers, who had acquired Chamberlain, in a seven-game battle for the title. The great Celtics leader promptly retired, having guided the team to 11 championships in 13 years. Russell had amassed 21,620 career rebounds, second in NBA history only to Chamberlain's 23,924.
In 1973, Russell resurfaced as head coach and general manager of the Seattle SuperSonics. He took a team that had won only 26 games the year before and put it on a winning track, notching 36 victories the next season and then compiling a 43-39 record to earn a playoff berth in 1974-75. But Russell became frustrated at the players' reluctance to embrace his team concept. Some suggested that the problem was Russell himself; he was said to be aloof, moody and unable to accept anything but the Celtics' tradition. In any event, his enthusiasm for the task waned after his fourth season in 1976-77, and he departed.
Ironically, Lenny Wilkens (http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkens_summary.html) guided Seattle to a championship two years later, preaching the same team concept that Russell had tried unsuccessfully to instill in his players. A decade after he left Seattle, Russell gave coaching another try, replacing Jerry Reynolds as coach of the Sacramento Kings early in the 1987-88 season. The team staggered to a 17-41 record, and Russell departed in midseason.
Between coaching stints Russell was most visible as a color commentator on televised basketball games. For a time he was paired with the equally blunt Rick Barry (http://www.nba.com/history/players/barry_summary.html); the duo provided brutally frank commentary on the game. Russell was never comfortable in that setting, though, explaining to the Sacramento Bee, "The most successful television is done in eight-second thoughts, and the things I know about basketball, motivation and people go deeper than that." He also dabbled with acting, performing in a Seattle Children's Theatre show and an episode of Miami Vice and he wrote a provocative autobiography, Second Wind.
Russell's lack of consistent success in other endeavors hasn't diminished his place in basketball history, and he has had no shortage of postcareer honors over the years. In 1970, he was named to the NBA 25th Anniversary All-Time Team. In 1974, Russell was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. In 1980, he was named to the NBA 35th Anniversary All-Time Team. That same year, he was voted Greatest Player in the History of the NBA by the Professional Basketball Writers Association of America.
Although the arrival of Michael Jordan later in the decade may have reopened the debate over who was truly the game's best player, what remains irrefutable is that Russell radically changed people's thinking about how basketball games are won.

Career Statistics GFG%FT%RebsRPGAstsAPGPtsPPG963.440.56121,62022.54, 1004.314,52215.1

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2007, 03:11 AM
Bill Russell

Career Statistics


YrTeamGPPTSFG%FT%RPGAPGPFBOS: Boston Celtics.1956-57BOS4870642.749.219.61.81431957-58BOS69114244.251.922.72.91811958-59BOS70116845.759.823.03.21611959-60BOS74135046.761.224.03.72101960-61BOS78132242.655.023.93.41551961-62BOS76143645.759.523.64.52071962-63BOS78130943.255.523.64.51881963-64BOS78116843.355.024.74.71901964-65BOS78110243.857.324.15.32041965-66BOS78100541.555.122.84.82211966-67BOS81107545.461.021.05.82581967-68BOS7897742.553.718.64.62421968-69BOS7776243.352.619.34.9231TOTAL9631452244.056.12 2.54.32592

JCMElway
06-07-2007, 10:03 AM
Those Cheap Bastards select:

Hakeem Olajuwon, C, Houston Rockets

Think about this: He brought back to back championships to HOUSTON. When has a sports franchise from Houston done anything besides these Rockets?

During his 18-year career, Nigeria-born Hakeem Olajuwon staked his claim as one of the greatest players in NBA history. Long considered a physical marvel since his days at the University of Houston, his aesthetic and productive play -- highlighted by his Houston Rockets’ back-to-back NBA titles -- earned him a place among the game’s best.

In 1993-94 he had a storybook season, becoming the first player to be named NBA MVP, NBA Defensive Player of the Year and NBA Finals MVP in the same season. The following season he rallied the Rockets from a sixth seed in the playoffs to their second straight NBA crown, making Houston the fifth NBA franchise ever to win back-to-back titles.

Hakeem Olajuwon was a force in the middle for 18 NBA seasons.
Olajuwon was the third of six children and acquired the basic values that pushed him to succeed from his parents, who were middle-class and owned a cement business in Lagos, Nigeria.

"They taught us to be honest, work hard, respect our elders, believe in ourselves," the NBA great has said.

Olajuwon, which translates into “always being on top,” began playing basketball at the late age of 15. Olajuwon's high school, the Muslim Teachers College, was an entry in the basketball tournament at the All-Nigeria Teachers Sports Festival in Sokoto -- but Olajuwon was on the handball team. A fellow student approached the coach and asked if Olajuwon could play for the team. Permission was granted and a basketball superstar was born.

Two years later he enrolled at the University of Houston under the name of Akeem Abdul Olajuwon. He dropped references to "Abdul" prior to entering the NBA and officially adopted "Hakeem" on March 9, 1991. To paraphrase Shakespeare; a great basketball player by any other name is still a great basketball player.

Although his athletic career began as a soccer goalkeeper and handball player, which ultimately helped give him the footwork and agility to balance his overpowering strength and size in basketball, he quickly became a dominating player at Houston. He played three seasons at Houston and help push the Cougars into the Final Four each year.

In 1982, Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler were on a Houston squad that made it to the NCAA semifinals but lost 68-63 to the North Carolina Tar Heels, led by James Worthy and Michael Jordan. The next year in the semifinals, the Cougars -- by this time known as "Phi Slamma Jamma" for their above-the-rim play -- soared above an equally athletic Louisville squad 94-81 in perhaps the most exciting end-to-end, high-flying act the NCAA Final Four has ever seen. However, the Cougars were upset 54-52 in a thrilling championship game on a shot at the buzzer by North Carolina State, an overwhelming underdog.

In 1983-84, Olajuwon averaged 16.8 points and led the NCAA in rebounding (13.5 rpg), blocked shots (5.6 per game) and field-goal percentage (.675). He was a First Team All-America selection that season, but Patrick Ewing and the Georgetown Hoyas defeated Olajuwon's Cougars 84-75 in the championship game.

After the Rockets won a coin flip with the Portland Trail Blazers for the first pick in the 1984 NBA Draft -- one year before the institution of the Draft Lottery -- Houston selected Olajuwon. Although the talented Jordan was also available (he would be picked third by the Chicago Bulls), almost all in the basketball world thought Olujawon was the correct selection at No. 1.

One year earlier, the Rockets won a coin flip with the Indiana Pacers, allowing the franchise to select the University of Virginia's Ralph Sampson. Thus, the fickle flips of a coin created the “Twin Towers” of 7-0 Olajuwon and 7-4 Sampson -- two agile giants.

In his rookie year, Olajuwon averaged 20.6 points and 11.9 rebounds while shooting .538 from the field and finished second to Jordan in Rookie of the Year balloting. The Rockets went from a 29-53 record before Olajuwon’s arrival to a 48-34 mark, but they were eliminated in five games by the Utah Jazz in the first round of the 1985 NBA Playoffs.

Olajuwon ranked fourth in the league in rebounding and second in blocked shots with 2.68 per game. He played in the 1985 NBA All-Star Game and was named to the NBA All-Rookie Team and the NBA All-Defensive Second Team. He and Sampson became the first teammates since Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor in 1970 to both average better than 20 points and 10 rebounds.

The next year, Olajuwon and Sampson powered the Rockets into the 1986 NBA Finals. On the way there, they defeated the reigning champion Los Angeles Lakers in a five-game Western Conference Finals. In the series' final three games, Olajuwon scored 40, 35 and 30 points to lead the Rockets. The Boston Celtics, champs in 1981 and 1984, had a formidable front line of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish and defeated the Rockets in six games.

In 1986-87, Sampson began to suffer from injuries and the following season he was traded to the Golden State Warriors. Olajuwon's production simply increased as he developed into one of the game’s top big men. Olajuwon led the Rockets in 13 statistical categories, including scoring, rebounding, steals and blocked shots. He began a string of selections to the All-NBA First Team (1987 to 1989) and NBA All-Defensive First Team (1987, 1988 and 1990), and was the starting center for the Western Conference All-Stars four years in a row (1987-90).

Olajuwon regularly placed among the league leaders in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots and steals. He won rebounding titles in 1989 and 1990, averaging 13.5 and 14.0 boards, respectively. And in 1989 he became the first player to finish among the league’s top 10 in scoring, rebounding, steals and blocked shots for two straight seasons. That same year against the Milwaukee Bucks, Olajuwon had 18 points, 16 rebounds, 11 blocks and 10 assists, recording the rare quadruple-double. He also led the NBA in blocked shots in 1989-90 with 4.59 per game and in 1990-91 at 3.95 per contest.

During this run, Olajuwon came back from two serious injuries. He took an elbow in the eye from the Chicago Bulls’ Bill Cartwright in the middle of the 1990-91 season, suffering a blowout fracture of the bones that surround the eyeball and forcing him to miss the Rockets’ next 25 games. In 1991-92, he missed seven contests early in the season after an episode of atrial fibrillation (an irregular heartbeat).

Despite Olajuwon’s play, the Rockets had settled into mediocrity since the team’s trip to the NBA Finals in 1986 -- Houston didn’t win a playoff series from 1988 through 1992. But beginning in 1992-93, midway through his career, Olajuwon got even better, taking himself and the Rockets to new levels of success.

The man called "Hakeem the Dream" had now developed a set of patented moves with either his back to the basket or facing opponents, and he abused defenders with numerous fakes, all of which became known as the "Dream Shake."

Because of stagnated contract negotiations, many thought he had played his last game for Houston at the end of the 1991-92 campaign. But on a flight to Japan, where the Rockets played the first two games of the 1992-93 season against the Seattle SuperSonics, Olajuwon and Houston owner Charlie Thomas smoothed out their differences. In the next three seasons he would average 26.1 points, 27.3 points and 27.8 points, respectively.

Whether the contract squabbles had affected Olajuwon’s 1991-92 performance may never be known, but that year he failed to make an All-NBA Team or an NBA All-Defensive Team for the first time in his career. And he certainly experienced a resurgence in 1992-93. Coach Rudy Tomjanovich began his first full season with the Rockets, preaching defense and imploring the team to feed off of Olajuwon’s energy.

The eight-year veteran, who later in the season became a naturalized United States citizen on April 2, 1993, was simply spectacular throughout the year. He averaged 26.1 points, 13.0 rebounds and 4.17 blocks, which established him as the league-leader in blocked shots for the third time in four seasons. More importantly, he led a Rockets team that had finished 42-40 the previous year to a 55-27 mark and the Midwest Division championship.

At season’s end, Olajuwon finished second to Charles Barkley in the voting for the NBA Most Valuable Player award. He was also named NBA Defensive Player of the Year for the first time, while reclaiming spots on the All-NBA First Team and the NBA All-Defensive First Team.

Akin to an athlete who shared his faith of Islam, Muhammad Ali, who devised the strategy of the rope-a-dope later in is career, Olajuwon introduced a new line of spins, fadeaway shots and jumpers, and he became virtually unstoppable on offense. The man called "Hakeem the Dream" had now developed a set of patented moves involving great footwork with ball and head fakes with either his back to the basket or facing opponents abusing defenders. All of which became known as the "Dream Shake."

During the 1995 postseason run culminating in Houston's second NBA championship, the Rockets defeated the San Antonio Spurs and the Orlando Magic, two teams with great centers who were left bewildered by Olajuwon's moves.

In a Life magazine story, San Antonio's David Robinson seemed perplexed. "Solve Hakeem?" said Robinson. "You don't solve Hakeem."

Orlando's Shaquille O'Neal felt the same way after going down in a Finals sweep . "He's got about five moves, then four countermoves," said a stunned O'Neal. " That gives him 20 moves."

This new Olajuwon had evolved after the dispute with management prompted him to reflect and then rededicate himself. His maturation as a player and in his faith carried onto the floor as a team leader, offensive powerhouse and defensive stalwart.

The transformation was apparent when the Rockets advanced to the 1993 Western Conference Semifinals. However, the team lost a tough Game 7, 103-100 in overtime, against a Seattle SupeSonics team led by Gary Payton and a young, explosive Shawn Kemp.

But in 1993-94, Olajuwon attained the pinnacle of achievement when he won both the league and NBA Finals MVP awards while leading Houston to its first-ever NBA crown. Following a brilliant regular season, the Houston center also earned his second straight NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award.

The Rockets won the title after a grueling seven-game defeat of the Patrick Ewing-led New York Knicks. The center's defensive prowess put an end to the Knicks' attempt to win the series in Game 6, when he blocked John Starks' potential game-tying three-point shot at the end of the game. The 10-year veteran was simply brilliant in the Finals, contributing 29.1 points, 9.1 rebounds and 3.86 blocks per game.

In 1994-95, Olajuwon had a career-best 27.8 ppg along with 10.8 rpg. Despite Olajuwon’s impressive performance, the league’s Most Valuable Player Award went to Robinson after he led the Spurs to the NBA’s best record. Olajuwon also became the Rockets’ all-time leading scorer when he passed Calvin Murphy early in the season. In February, Olajuwon was reunited with college teammate Drexler, who came over from the Portland Trail Blazers in a trade for forward Otis Thorpe.

While trying to adjust to Drexler’s presence, the Rockets closed out the season in bumpy fashion and entered the playoffs seeded sixth in the Western Conference. But Drexler was terrific in the playoffs and Olajuwon averaged 33.0 points on .531 shooting from the field, 10.3 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.2 steals and 2.81 blocks per game in the postseason as Houston captured its second consecutive title. Matched against the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals, Olajuwon averaged 35.3 points to Robinson’s 25.5.

In the NBA Finals, Houston met the Magic and the league’s great young center, O’Neal. The two big men had similar numbers as Olajuwon averaged 32.8 points, 11.5 rebounds and 5.5 assists to O’Neal’s 28.0 points, 12.5 rebounds and 6.3 assists. But the Rockets swept the series, making Houston the fifth NBA franchise to win back-to-back titles. For his spectacular play, Olajuwon was awarded his second consecutive NBA Finals MVP award.

Olajuwon believes that his religious faith supported his drive to a great career. During an NBA season he observes Islam's Ramadan, which includes periods of fasting. He would awaken before dawn to eat precisely seven dates -- the traditional Muslim fast-breaking food -- and to drink a gallon of water. He would follow with a prayer for strength and have no food or liquid until sunset.

When he played an afternoon game, he would pant for water -- but did not drink a drop. Still, he would say, “I find myself full of energy, explosive. And when I break the fast at sunset, the taste of water is so precious.”

This transcendent dedication and performance earned him mention among the greatest winners in recent history, including Jordan, Bird, Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas.

After winning the championships, Olajuwon maintained his productive play over the next two seasons. However, the team was swept by the Sonics in the 1996 conference semifinals. And even with the addition of Barkley before the 1996-97 season, which reinvigorated the Rockets, the team lost in six games to the Jazz in the Western Conference Finals.

Beginning in the 1997-98 season, Olajuwon began to miss time due to injuries and played just 47 games that year. He returned to play close to a full schedule during the lockout season of 1998-99. However, his production was slipping and he played just two more years in Houston, averaging less than 12.0 ppg and 7.5 rpg. He retired after playing one season for the Toronto Raptors in 2001-02, interrupting 20 years, including his college career, of playing in the city of Houston.

His impact in the city, however, did not go unrecognized. The Rockets' all-time leader at the time of his retirement in a host of categories, including points, rebounds, steals, and blocked shots (All-time NBA leader with 3, 830) had his jersey No. 34 retired on Nov. 9, 2002. At the ceremony, it was announced that a life-sized statue of Olajuwon would be on display at the Rockets' new downtown arena, scheduled to open for the 2003-04 season.

JCMElway
06-07-2007, 10:06 AM
Man-Goblin is on the clock at 8:00 AM CST. He has until 8:00 AM Friday to select.

Freak6 may still make a selection at any time.

If Freak 6 misses his first and second round picks he is out of the NBA all time draft.

If any owner misses 3 picks in a row a new owner will be recruited to take their place.

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2007, 02:43 PM
At first glance, these guys I would bump off of the all-time top 50 list:

Bill Sharman
Dave Bing
Scottie Pippen
James Worthy
Hal Greer

freak6
06-07-2007, 06:57 PM
My bad for being late. I'll go with Larry Legend!

Can I not post pics or am I doing it wrong?

<img src="http://espn.go.com/i/page2/photos/060802/g_bird2_275.jpg">

azbroncfan
06-07-2007, 08:02 PM
My bad for being late. I'll go with Larry Legend!

Can I not post pics or am I doing it wrong?

<img src="">

http://espn.go.com/i/page2/photos/060802/g_bird2_275.jpg

Hit insert image and put the address in it.

freak6
06-07-2007, 09:00 PM
Cool.
http://www.benandbruno.com/upload/AADQ009~Larry-Bird-and-Magic-Johnson-Photofile-Posters.jpg


Larry Bird

Once every generation or so, a player comes along who can truly be called a superstar. Larry Bird was such a player. For 13 seasons with the Boston Celtics, from 1979-80 through 1991-92, Bird personified hustle, consistency and excellence in all areas of play--as a scorer, a passer, a rebounder, a defender, a team player, and, perhaps above all, as a clutch performer. Bird was so self-confident that he was known to waltz up to the opponents' bench before tipoff and predict a 40-point performance for himself. He was such a deadly shooter that he sometimes practiced three-pointers with his eyes closed. more...


Complete Bio | Summary | Complete Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
897 .496 .376 .886 8,974 10.0 5,695 6.3 1,556 755 21,791 24.3

Full Name: Larry Joe Bird
Born: 12/7/56 in West Baden, Ind.
High School: Springs Valley (French Lick, Ind.)
College: Indiana (did not play); Indiana State
Drafted by: Boston Celtics, 1978 (sixth overall)
Nickname: Larry Legend
Height: 6-9; Weight: 220 lbs.
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1998); NBA champion (1981, '84, '86); NBA Finals MVP (1984, '86); NBA MVP (1984, '85, '86); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1980-88); All-NBA Second Team (1990); All-Defensive Second Team (1982, '83, '84); NBA Rookie of the Year (1980); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist (1992).

JCMElway
06-07-2007, 09:22 PM
Nice pick Freak. You didn't lose much by slipping two spots. One could argue that Bird should go ahead of Russel or Olajuwon.

Man-Goblin is on the clock until 8 AM CST.

azbroncfan
06-08-2007, 10:25 AM
Okay it is 6:30 PST here so 8:30 CST so I'll make my pick and it probably won't effect mangoblin anyway. but with the 12 pick in the draft Azbroncfan selects

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and for -SLAP- another Laker

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Karl Malone

Karl Malone is arguably the greatest power forward of all time. Built more like a tight end than a basketball player, his size and strength made him difficult to defend in the low block, but he also filled the lane on the fast break and shot a deadly medium-range jumper. The two-time MVP finished his career with 36, 928 points second only behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He also attempted more free throws and grabbed more defensive rebounds than any player in NBA history. He was also selected to the 50th Anniversary All-Time Team and won two Olympic gold medals. As a player who consistently delivered on the court, he deserved the nickname of "The Mailman."



CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
85-86 UTA 81 76 30.6 .496 .000 .481 2.10 6.70 8.90 2.9 1.30 .54 3.44 3.60 14.9
86-87 UTA 82 82 34.8 .512 .000 .598 3.40 7.00 10.40 1.9 1.27 .73 2.89 3.90 21.7
87-88 UTA 82 82 39.0 .520 .000 .700 3.40 8.60 12.00 2.4 1.43 .61 3.96 3.60 27.7
88-89 UTA 80 80 39.1 .519 .313 .766 3.20 7.40 10.70 2.7 1.80 .88 3.56 3.60 29.1
89-90 UTA 82 82 38.1 .562 .372 .762 2.80 8.30 11.10 2.8 1.48 .61 3.71 3.20 31.0
90-91 UTA 82 82 40.3 .527 .286 .770 2.90 8.90 11.80 3.3 1.09 .96 2.98 3.30 29.0
91-92 UTA 81 81 37.7 .526 .176 .778 2.80 8.40 11.20 3.0 1.33 .63 3.06 2.80 28.0
92-93 UTA 82 82 37.8 .552 .200 .740 2.80 8.40 11.20 3.8 1.51 1.04 2.93 3.20 27.0
93-94 UTA 82 82 40.6 .497 .250 .694 2.90 8.60 11.50 4.0 1.52 1.54 2.85 3.30 25.2
94-95 UTA 82 82 38.1 .536 .268 .742 1.90 8.70 10.60 3.5 1.57 1.04 2.88 3.30 26.7
95-96 UTA 82 82 38.0 .519 .400 .723 2.10 7.70 9.80 4.2 1.68 .68 2.43 3.00 25.7
96-97 UTA 82 82 36.6 .550 .000 .755 2.40 7.50 9.90 4.5 1.38 .59 2.84 2.60 27.4
97-98 UTA 81 81 37.4 .530 .333 .761 2.30 8.00 10.30 3.9 1.19 .86 3.05 2.90 27.0
98-99 UTA 49 49 37.4 .493 .000 .788 2.20 7.30 9.40 4.1 1.27 .57 3.31 2.70 23.8
99-00 UTA 82 82 35.9 .509 .250 .797 2.10 7.40 9.50 3.7 .96 .87 2.82 2.80 25.5
00-01 UTA 81 81 35.7 .498 .400 .793 1.40 6.90 8.30 4.5 1.15 .77 3.01 2.70 23.2
01-02 UTA 80 80 38.0 .454 .360 .797 1.80 6.80 8.60 4.3 1.90 .74 3.29 2.90 22.4
02-03 UTA 81 81 36.2 .462 .214 .763 1.40 6.40 7.80 4.7 1.68 .38 2.59 2.50 20.6
03-04 LAL 42 42 32.7 .483 .000 .747 1.50 7.30 8.70 3.9 1.19 .48 2.45 2.80 13.2
Career 1476 1471 37.2 .516 .274 .742 2.40 7.70 10.10 3.6 1.41 .70 3.07 3.10 25.0
Playoff 193 193 41.0 .463 .162 .736 2.60 8.10 10.70 3.2 1.34 .70 2.85 3.40 24.7
All-Star 12 8 20.3 .542 .000 .725 1.60 4.60 6.20 1.6 1.00 .42 1.25 1.30 12.1


CAREER TOTALS

LUDO is on the clock until 630 AM PST on saturday and Mangoblin can select at anytime.

freak6
06-08-2007, 01:13 PM
When we rate the different squads, are we judging the players on thier careers, or the entire squad with each player at thier peak, or which squad would win a tourney.

Also, in the 2nd round do we start over, or does the first pick in the first get the last pick in the 2nd?

It's be cool to do a tourney, and we could vote on who would move on etc...

azbroncfan
06-08-2007, 07:05 PM
At this rate this won't get finished for another five years.

Killericon
06-09-2007, 03:46 AM
At this rate this won't get finished for another five years.
Optimist.

JCMElway
06-09-2007, 04:07 AM
Ludo21 is on the clock until 8:30 PM CST Saturday.

Man-Goblin may make a selection at anytime. If Man-Goblin misses his selections in the first and second round he is out of the draft.

JCMElway
06-09-2007, 04:12 AM
When we rate the different squads, are we judging the players on thier careers, or the entire squad with each player at thier peak, or which squad would win a tourney.

Also, in the 2nd round do we start over, or does the first pick in the first get the last pick in the 2nd?

It's be cool to do a tourney, and we could vote on who would move on etc...

The order of the draft is snaking. the last team in the first round gets to select first in the second round.

And a tourney might be cool. Rules for ranking the teams will be discussed near the end of the draft.

ludo21
06-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Was their any doubt?

Steve Nash #13

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JCMElway
06-10-2007, 01:33 AM
Vancejohnson82 is on the clock at 8 PM CST.

Man-Goblin may still make a selection at any time.

Folks, please remember to list the time you made your selection!

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Was their any doubt?

Steve Nash #13

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I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

JCMElway
06-10-2007, 07:46 PM
I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

bitter much?

Killericon
06-10-2007, 08:27 PM
I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

I was targeting him with the last pick in the 2nd round.

****!

RhymesayersDU
06-10-2007, 11:39 PM
I have to say, I had Nash slotted lower as well.

But it brings up an interesting discussion. Where do we slot Nash? 2 MVP's, no matter what the era or competition, is a huge deal.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2007, 12:16 AM
I have to say, I had Nash slotted lower as well.
But it brings up an interesting discussion. Where do we slot Nash? 2 MVP's, no matter what the era or competition, is a huge deal.


When you look at a career, Nash wont stack up. 3 seasons as a great player wont put him on the level of the other great PG's, much less the other greats.

In an all-time draft, Nash doesnt stack up. There are several other players from his own generation that should be taken ahead of Nash.

I understand that there are several Suns homers here, but be realistic.

JCMElway
06-11-2007, 01:04 AM
Eddie Mac is on the clock. He has until 8 PM CST on Monday to make his selection.

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Man-Goblin -- May select at any time
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- ON THE CLOCK

eddie mac
06-11-2007, 10:14 AM
Oscar Robertson G 1960-1970 Cincinatti Royals, 1970-74 Milwaukee Bucks.

Oscar Robertson

Oscar Robertson, the "Big O," is the player against whom all others labeled "all-around" are judged, and he may remain the standard forever. Statistically, one need look no further than the numbers Robertson put up in 1961-62, just his second year in the league: 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists per game-an average of a triple-double for an entire season. Not even Magic Johnson or Larry Bird could match those numbers. During his 14-year NBA career with the Cincinnati Royals and the Milwaukee Bucks, Robertson amassed 26,710 points.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1980); NBA champion (1971); NBA MVP (1964); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1961-69); All-NBA Second Team (1970, '71); Rookie of Year (1961); 12-time All-Star (1961-72); All-Star MVP (1961, '64, '69); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist ('60).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,040 .485 .838 7,804 7.5 9,887 9.5 26,710 25.7

RhymesayersDU
06-11-2007, 10:26 AM
Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

Nuggets4
06-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

The fact that he slipped as low as he did (Steve Nash?!?) is a mindblower.

vancejohnson82
06-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Sorry guys, I was in maine for the weekend and there was no internet up there at the house

I'm going with Zeke.... Isiah Thomas

vancejohnson82
06-11-2007, 12:30 PM
oh, and my selection was made at 10:28 on Monday

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

Well, you never know.

Nash was taken in the first round, and so was Karl Malone, so I would count on some great players being around when your number comes up.

JCMElway
06-11-2007, 04:28 PM
Inkana7 is on the clock for two selections. Inkana, please kick off the second round!

Inkana has until 10 AM CST on Tuesday to make his selection.

To keep things moving Eddiemac, Vj82, and Ludo can PM me their picks, just in case they are not by a PC when they are up.

-Slap-
06-11-2007, 10:38 PM
Oscar Robertson G 1960-1970 Cincinatti Royals, 1970-74 Milwaukee Bucks.

Oscar Robertson

Oscar Robertson, the "Big O," is the player against whom all others labeled "all-around" are judged, and he may remain the standard forever. Statistically, one need look no further than the numbers Robertson put up in 1961-62, just his second year in the league: 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists per game-an average of a triple-double for an entire season. Not even Magic Johnson or Larry Bird could match those numbers. During his 14-year NBA career with the Cincinnati Royals and the Milwaukee Bucks, Robertson amassed 26,710 points.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1980); NBA champion (1971); NBA MVP (1964); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1961-69); All-NBA Second Team (1970, '71); Rookie of Year (1961); 12-time All-Star (1961-72); All-Star MVP (1961, '64, '69); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist ('60).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,040 .485 .838 7,804 7.5 9,887 9.5 26,710 25.7

The Big O was my second choice @ 4. I chose West because all the teams in this league are going to be lethal, so I wanted a guy who can take and make huge shots at the buzzer.

Inkana7
06-11-2007, 11:18 PM
For my first pick, I select:

Elgin Baylor

http://cache.nba.com/media/history/baylor_350.jpg


Had Elgin Baylor been born 25 years later, his acrobatic moves would have been captured on video, his name emblazoned on sneakers, and his face plastered on cereal boxes. But he played before the days of widespread television exposure, so among the only records of his prowess that remain are the words of those who saw one of the greatest ever to play.

"He was one of the most spectacular shooters the game has ever known," Baylor's longtime teammate Jerry West told HOOP magazine in 1992. "I hear people talking about forwards today and I haven't seen many that can compare with him."

Bill Sharman played against Baylor and coached him in his final years with the Lakers. "I say without reservation that Elgin Baylor is the greatest cornerman who ever played pro basketball," he told the Los Angeles Times at Baylor's retirement in 1971.

Career Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
846 .431 .330 .780 11,463 13.5 3,650 4.3 23,149 27.4


And for my second pick, I'm getting my big guy in the center:

Patrick Ewing

http://www.nba.com/media/history/ewing_200.jpg

Warrior. That is the one-word description often applied to Patrick Ewing. He was indefatigable and relentless in pursuit of an NBA championship despite being denied on an annual basis. Bold predictions did not always materialize and some took them as empty promises, while others as a will to succeed. One of the finest shooting centers to play, he left the game as the New York Knicks' all-time leader in nearly every significant category and the game's 13th all-time scorer with 24,815 points.

Career Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
1,183 .504 .348 .740 11,607 9.8 2,215 1.9 1,146 2,894 24,815 21.0

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 12:06 AM
Eddie Mac is back on the clock. He has until 9 PM CST on Tuesday to make his selection.

Round two's selection time is 24 hours. Every round thereafter (3-13) the selection time will be 12 hours.

VJ82, Ludo, and AZBronc are on deck.

eddie mac
06-12-2007, 12:14 PM
With my 2nd pick I'll take:

Julius Erving (Dr J)

Julius Erving, the great and wondrous "Dr. J," was the dominant player of his era, an innovator who changed the way the game was played. He was a wizard with the ball, performing feats never before seen: midair spins and whirls punctuated by powerful slam dunks. Erving was one of the first players to make extemporaneous individual expression an integral part of the game, setting the style of play that would prevail in the decades to follow. A gracious, dignified, and disciplined man, Erving was the epitome of class and an ideal ambassador for the game.

G FG% 3FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
836 .507 .261 .777 5,601 6.7 3,224 3.9 1,508 1,293 18,364 22.0

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2007, 12:21 PM
Good pick, eddiemac. Dr. J. is truly one of the greats, and should have been picked in the first round.

vancejohnson82
06-12-2007, 12:25 PM
With my Second Pick I select:

THE ICEMAN

George Gervin
http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/GervinPostupNice.jpg

George Gervin's playing record speaks volumes. Only Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan have won more league scoring championships than Gervin's four, and he was the first guard ever to win three titles in a row. His career scoring average of 26.2 points per game is among the game's best as is his combined NBA/ABA total of 26,595 points. During his career, Gervin recorded a remarkable streak of scoring double figures in 407 consecutive games. And he twice placed second in voting for the regular-season MVP Award. But these numbers only begin to tell the story of Gervin's phenomenal pro career. more... (http://www.nba.com/history/players/gervin_bio.html)
Andy Hayt/NBAE/Getty Images

Complete Bio (http://www.nba.com/history/players/gervin_bio.html) | SummaryG
FG%
3PFG%
FT%
Rebs
RPG
Asts
APG
Stls
Blks
Pts
PPG
791
.511
.297
.844
3,607
4.6
2,214
2.8
941
670
20,708
26.2
Full Name: George Gervin
Born: 4/27/52 in Detroit
High School: Martin Luther King (Detroit)
College: Long Beach State, then Eastern Michigan
Drafted by: Phoenix Suns, 1974 (40th overall)
Transactions: Selected by ABA's Virginia Squires after sophomore season, 1973; Contract sold to San Antonio Spurs, 1/30/74; San Antonio joined NBA in 1976; Traded to Chicago Bulls, 10/24/85. Nickname: Iceman
Height: 6-7; Weight: 185 lbs.
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1996); All-NBA First Team (1978, '79, '80, '81, '82); All-NBA Second Team (1977, '83); Nine-time NBA All-Star (1977-85); All-Star MVP (1980); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
ABA Honors: ABA All-Star Second Team (1975, '76); ABA All-Rookie team (1973).

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 02:25 PM
AZBroncfan is now on the clock. He has until 10 AM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Good pick, eddiemac. Dr. J. is truly one of the greats, and should have been picked in the first round.

Yes, very nice. I was torn between Erving and Olajuwon myself.

Master___Pain
06-12-2007, 04:14 PM
Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama Bill Russell
10. JCMElway Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac Julius Erving
3.VJ82 George Gervin
4. Ludo ON THE CLOCK Skipped? MP goofed?
5.AZbroncofan David Robinson
6. BobHorry5
7. JCMElway
8. Angry Llama
9.Phibacka
10.Freak6
11. Rhymes
12. Clockwork
13. -Slap-
14. Master Pain
15. GSReylea
16. KillerIcon

Master___Pain
06-12-2007, 04:16 PM
One more thing....can we limit the additional info on these posts. I know how great Bill Russell is, I don't need 5 consecutive posts about him. A pic and some stats will suffice.

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2007, 04:45 PM
AL's All-Time All-Defensive Team:

PG - John Stockton
SG - Mike Jordan
SF - Bobby Jones
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Bill Russell

RhymesayersDU
06-12-2007, 04:46 PM
One more thing....can we limit the additional info on these posts. I know how great Bill Russell is, I don't need 5 consecutive posts about him. A pic and some stats will suffice.

I agree. I was going to post this earlier, but didn't want to break anybody's balls on a fun thread. But yeah, can we keep this stuff to a minimum?

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 05:11 PM
Sure, I agree with the limiting of the descriptions to just one post. If we really want to brag and push our guy I will go ahead and start an All time NBA draft discussion thread.

Also, I have another guy coming in to replace mangoblin. He will make his first pick and then his second pick will be in mangoblin's regular slot.

MP, thanks for the organizing help with the repost of the draft order.

azbroncfan
06-12-2007, 05:15 PM
AZBroncfan is now on the clock. He has until 10 AM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nba/2003/0615/photo/a_robinson_il.jpg

D ROB. Need a C and he is best available. Glad Ewing went before the admiral.

Pick made 2:15 MST or 2015 UTC.

Master___Pain
06-12-2007, 05:21 PM
AZBroncfan is now on the clock. He has until 10 AM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

Seems like Ludo got skipped? If I goofed the order I apologize.

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 05:37 PM
Hey, BobHorry5 is the new member of the draft. Since he missed the first round he'll make his selection now, then he is up again after Ludo makes his selection.

Here he is, he's posting on my post for now, but will post on his own account once the mods approve him.

Take it away BobHorry5:

My pick is Moses Malone, because Moses can do so many things.

Moses Malone, PF/C, Houston, Portland, Philadelphia

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Ludo21 is on the clock until 3 PM CST on Wednesday.

RhymesayersDU
06-12-2007, 05:40 PM
Booo @ taking Moses. Jerk.

Master___Pain
06-12-2007, 05:42 PM
Booo @ taking Moses. Jerk.
Yeah, no kidding.

At this rate Manute Bol is going to be my starting center ..........noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Yeah, no kidding.

At this rate Manute Bol is going to be my starting center ..........noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

I'm taking Manute next...you're stuck with Shawn Bradley.

-Slap-
06-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Elgin, Doc or Moses. I was hoping one of them would make it back to me in round two.

RhymesayersDU
06-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Yeah, no kidding.

At this rate Manute Bol is going to be my starting center ..........noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

LOL. Somebody said that The Admiral was the best center left, and my heart jumped because I thought that Moses was flying under the radar... Although he could be a PF too, so I guess we shall let it pass.

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2007, 06:05 PM
I couldnt believe that you guys passed up Bill Russell in the first round. ;D

He's the only other guy with a stake at #1, I believe.

Russell is everything a center should be and more. Mr. Championship.

Master___Pain
06-12-2007, 06:07 PM
I couldnt believe that you guys passed up Bill Russell in the first round. ;D

He's the only other guy with a stake at #1, I believe.

Russell is everything a center should be and more. Mr. Championship.

Yes, we understand that everything you do or touch turns to gold. :thumbs:

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2007, 06:15 PM
Yes, we understand that everything you do or touch turns to gold.

I need to introduce you to my girlfriend...she needs to know what you know. ;D

JCMElway
06-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- ON THE CLOCK
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 --
7. JCMElway --
8. Angry Llama --
9.Phibacka --
10.Freak6 --
11. Rhymes --
12. Clockwork --
13. Slap --
14. Master Pain --
15. GSReylea --
16. KillerIcon --

azbroncfan
06-13-2007, 01:08 AM
LOL. Somebody said that The Admiral was the best center left, and my heart jumped because I thought that Moses was flying under the radar... Although he could be a PF too, so I guess we shall let it pass.

I knew he was there and would of taken him or DROB but I think DROB is a C and Malone is more of a PF. If we do a tourney on whatifsports I think it will take stats into account which doesn't always tell the whole story.

RhymesayersDU
06-13-2007, 01:21 AM
I knew he was there and would of taken him or DROB but I think DROB is a C and Malone is more of a PF. If we do a tourney on whatifsports I think it will take stats into account which doesn't always tell the whole story.

See I wasn't sure of that. I had him listed as a PF, but when I was doing some research everybody had him listed at C. Either way, great player.

JCMElway
06-13-2007, 01:28 AM
Just a reminder....

Ludo21 is on the clock. He has until 3 PM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.

ludo21
06-13-2007, 03:16 AM
Walt Frazier

http://cache.nba.com/media/history/frazier1_170.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-13-2007, 03:19 AM
Ludo, given your first pick, I thought that Shawn Marion was next off of the board! ;D

Master___Pain
06-13-2007, 01:04 PM
BobHorry5 is on the clock

Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --
10.Freak6 --
11. Rhymes --
12. Clockwork --
13. Slap --
14. Master Pain --
15. GSReylea --
16. KillerIcon --

JCMElway
06-13-2007, 08:01 PM
BobHorry5 told me his pick when he drafted yesterday. He selects:

John Havlicek, SG, Celtics

While aptly described as soft-spoken and modest, John Havlicek is regarded as the best sixth man in NBA history. "Hondo" who popularized the integral role of the sixth man, was a collegiate star at Ohio State. An All-America and All-Big Ten selection in 1962, Hondo teamed with Larry Siegfried and fellow Hall of Famers Jerry Lucas and Bob Knight to land Ohio State the 1960 NCAA Championship. Havlicek combined his running ability and endurance to establish a style of constant movement on offense and defense that frustrated opponents and added to the Boston Celtics' magic. From the day he arrived in Boston, Havlicek was a scoring threat, and became the first player to score 1,000 points in sixteen consecutive seasons. During his sixteen years with the Boston Celtics, coach Red Auerbach described Havlicek as the "guts of the team."

# NBA championships with Boston Celtics,1963, 1964, 1965,1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976
# NBA All-Star, 1966-78
# All-NBA First-Team, 1971-74
# NBA 50th Anniversary Team, 1996

JCMElway
06-13-2007, 08:05 PM
And my selection is:

John Stockton, PG, Utah Jazz

# Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"
# NBA's all-time leader in assists (15,806) and in steals (3,265)
# Two-time All-NBA First Team selection (1993-94 and 1994-95), six-time All-NBA Second Team selection (1987-90, 1991-92, 1992-93, and 1995-96), and three-time All-NBA Third Team selection (1990-91, 1996-97, 1998-99).
# Five-time NBA All-Defensive Second Team selection (1988-89, 1990-92, 1994-95, 1996-97).
# Ten-time NBA All-Star selection who played in nine consecutive games from 1989 to 1997, averaging 7.8 ppg, 8.2 apg and 1.67 spg
# Holds the league record for most seasons with the same franchise (19; 1984-85 through 2002-03)
# Finished the 2002-03 season with 19,711 points
# Ranks second on the NBA's all-time list in games played (1,504)
# Broke John Havlicek's record of 1,270 games played with one franchise when he suited up for the Jazz vs. Detroit on 11/26/00.
# Played in every game in 17 of his 19 seasons.
# Missed only four games in his first 13 NBA seasons, all in 1989-90, before missing the first 18 games of the 1997-98 season while recovering from off-season left knee arthroscopic surgery.
# Played in 609 consecutive games from 2/13/90 through 4/20/97, the eighth-longest streak in NBA history.
# Holds record for most seasons leading league in assists (nine, 1987-88 through 1995-96), most assists in a single season (1,164 in 1990-91), and highest single-season assists-per-game average (14.5 in 1989-90).
# Accounted for seven of the nine seasons of 1,000 or more assists in league history (Kevin Porter and Isiah Thomas) and posted the top four single-season assist totals.
# Led the NBA in steals in 1988-89 (3.21 spg) and 1991-92 (2.98 spg)
# Finished 2002-03 with a career field-goal percentage of .515, the fourth-best percentage by a guard in NBA history behind Lewis Lloyd (.524), Maurice Cheeks (.523) and Magic Johnson (.520).
# Participated in the NBA Playoffs in all 19 of his seasons.
# Appeared in the 1997 and 1998 NBA Finals against the Chicago Bulls, averaging 12.3 ppg, 8.8 apg, and 2.0 spg, while shooting .495 (55-111) in 12 contests.
# Hit the game-winning three-pointer at the buzzer in a 103-100 victory over the Houston Rockets in Game Six of the 1997 Western Conference Finals to propel the Jazz to their first trip to the NBA Finals.
# Matched the NBA Playoffs single-game record with 24 assists against the L.A. Lakers in Game Five of the 1988 Western Conference Semifinals
# A member of the men's basketball "Dream Team" that won the gold medal at the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona and the 1996 Dream Team that won gold in Atlanta.
# During career, named NBA Player of the Week six times and Player of the Month once (February, 1988).

JCMElway
06-13-2007, 08:08 PM
Angryllama is on the clock at 6:00 PM CST on Wednesday. He has 24 hours to select.

Phibacka, Freak6, and Rhymesayers are on deck and may PM me or their selections if they are online but not yet on the clock.

epicSocialism4tw
06-13-2007, 11:24 PM
Before there was "Magic", there was the "Houdini of the Hardwood."

The originator of creative point guard play, and the pilot of the historically unmatched Celtics dynasty.

BOB COUSY
http://www.newsday.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2003-10/9647280.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/44/115296562_5b4bcd3e82.jpg
NBA Most Valuable Player (1957)
Ten-time All-NBA First Team (1952-61)
Two-time All-NBA Second Team (1962-63)
Two-time NBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player (1954, 1957)
Ranked #94 on ESPN's Sports Century top 100 athletes of the 20th century (1999)
Games 924
Field Goal Percentage .375
Three Point Field Goal Percentage .376
Free Throw Percentage .803
Rebounds 4786
Rebounds Per Game 5.2
Assists 6955
Assists Per Game 7.5
Points 16960
Points Per Game 18.4
All-NBA First Team selection for 10 years in a row.
Held 13 playoff records.
Cousy was a member of six NBA championship teams (1957, 1959, 1960-63)
Played in 13 consecutive All-Star games and captured MVP honors in 1954 and 1957.
Had 6,955 assists and 16,960 lifetime points scored.
Known as one of the most spectacular passers to ever play the game.
Coached professionally from 1969-1974.
Selected for the 25th, 35th and 50th NBA anniversary All-Time Teams.
In 1999, ESPN selected Cousy as #94 on the Sports Century top 100 athletes list.

JCMElway
06-14-2007, 12:37 AM
Phibacka is on the clock at 9 PM CST on Wednesday. He has 24 hours to select.

phibacka31
06-14-2007, 09:58 AM
Phibacka31 selects: James Worthy Pick was made : 7:54am
http://www.interbasket.net/players/usa/worthy.jpg

freak6
06-14-2007, 01:20 PM
I am so happy this guy fell to me. Unbelievable in my eyes really.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AADN003~Kobe-Bryant-Multiple-Exposure-Photofile-Posters.jpg

I'm not a big fan of his, but his talent is undeniable, and along with Larry Bird gives me two great shooters. Kobe also is a sick defender, that has no weakness besides his selfishness. I'll take it!

vancejohnson82
06-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Freak6

i guess you didnt hear that the tournament is being held in Colorado

Keep an eye on your boy Kobe

RhymesayersDU
06-14-2007, 04:52 PM
Damnit, I really wanted Kobe at my pick. Weak.

epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2007, 04:59 PM
Damnit, I really wanted Kobe at my pick. Weak.

I guess you'll have to settle for Kenyon Martin.

RhymesayersDU
06-14-2007, 05:03 PM
Well, I'm "settling" on a great shooting guard, they call him The Glide:

http://www.globalcrossing.net/~variable/clyde1.jpg

Clyde Drexler, SG, 2:01 PM MST

JCMElway
06-14-2007, 05:23 PM
Clockwork is on the clock at 3 PM CST on Thursday. He has 24 hours to select.

OK, we're finally making a little progress here. Great work! Remember, you can PM me your picks if you think you might be away from the PC for a bit.

Clockwork Orange
06-14-2007, 05:37 PM
Here's a guy who I'm surprised fell this far, but I'm very glad he did.

I am proud to select Charles Barkley, F, 76ers/Suns/Rockets.

http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/charles-barkley.jpg

Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1984-85 21 PHI NBA 82 28.6 5.2 9.5 0.0 0.1 3.6 4.9 3.2 5.3 8.6 1.9 1.2 1.0 2.5 3.7 14.0
1985-86 22 PHI NBA 80 36.9 7.4 13.0 0.2 0.9 5.0 7.2 4.4 8.4 12.8 3.9 2.2 1.6 4.4 4.2 20.0
1986-87 23 PHI NBA 68 40.3 8.2 13.8 0.3 1.5 6.3 8.3 5.7 8.9 14.6 4.9 1.8 1.5 4.7 3.7 23.0
1987-88 24 PHI NBA 80 39.6 9.4 16.0 0.6 2.0 8.9 11.9 4.8 7.1 11.9 3.2 1.3 1.3 3.8 3.5 28.3
1988-89 25 PHI NBA 79 39.1 8.9 15.3 0.4 2.1 7.6 10.1 5.1 7.4 12.5 4.1 1.6 0.8 3.2 3.3 25.8
1989-90 26 PHI NBA 79 39.1 8.9 14.9 0.3 1.2 7.1 9.4 4.6 6.9 11.5 3.9 1.9 0.6 3.1 3.2 25.2
1990-91 27 PHI NBA 67 37.3 9.9 17.4 0.7 2.3 7.1 9.8 3.9 6.3 10.1 4.2 1.6 0.5 3.1 2.6 27.6
1991-92 28 PHI NBA 75 38.4 8.3 15.0 0.4 1.8 6.1 8.7 3.6 7.5 11.1 4.1 1.8 0.6 3.1 2.6 23.1
1992-93 29 PHO NBA 76 37.6 9.4 18.1 0.9 2.9 5.9 7.7 3.1 9.1 12.2 5.1 1.6 1.0 3.1 2.6 25.6
1993-94 30 PHO NBA 65 35.4 8.0 16.1 0.7 2.7 4.9 7.0 3.0 8.1 11.2 4.6 1.6 0.6 3.2 2.5 21.6
1994-95 31 PHO NBA 68 35.0 8.1 16.8 1.1 3.2 5.6 7.5 3.0 8.1 11.1 4.1 1.6 0.7 2.2 3.0 23.0
1995-96 32 PHO NBA 71 37.1 8.2 16.3 0.7 2.5 6.2 8.0 3.4 8.1 11.6 3.7 1.6 0.8 3.1 2.9 23.2
1996-97 33 HOU NBA 53 37.9 6.3 13.1 1.1 3.9 5.4 7.8 4.0 9.5 13.5 4.7 1.3 0.5 2.8 2.9 19.2
1997-98 34 HOU NBA 68 33.0 5.3 10.9 0.3 1.2 4.4 5.8 3.5 8.1 11.7 3.2 1.0 0.4 2.2 2.8 15.2
1998-99 35 HOU NBA 42 36.3 5.7 12.0 0.1 0.6 4.6 6.4 4.0 8.3 12.3 4.6 1.0 0.3 2.4 2.1 16.1
1999-00 36 HOU NBA 20 31.0 5.3 11.1 0.3 1.3 3.6 5.5 3.6 6.9 10.5 3.2 0.7 0.2 2.2 2.4 14.5
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
16 Seasons 1073 36.7 7.9 14.5 0.5 1.9 5.9 8.1 4.0 7.7 11.7 3.9 1.5 0.8 3.1 3.1 22.1
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+

"The Round Mound of Rebound" was an 11 time All-Star and the 1992-93 league MVP. He was a 5 time 1st team All-NBA selection and a 5 time 2nd teamer.

He also gets bonus points with me for decking Bill Laimbeer back in the day. :~ohyah!:

Selection made at 2:35 P.M. MST. -Slap- is now on the clock.

RhymesayersDU
06-14-2007, 05:54 PM
Damn. CB34 was my favorite player growing up. I really wanted him, but after getting the imposing Shaq @ C, I had to go back court. Good pick, CO.

JCMElway
06-14-2007, 06:15 PM
Slap is on the clock at 3:30 PM CST. He has 24 hours to select.

Masterpain, GSReylea, and Killericon are on the clock. Killericon will have 24 hours to make two picks.

Remember, selectors have 12 hours in rounds 3-13.

BobHorry5
06-15-2007, 01:08 AM
bob horry # 7 nuff said san antonio world champs..... again

-Slap-
06-15-2007, 01:11 AM
I'll select what I believe is easily the best player left on the board, forward Rick Barry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barryri01.html).

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7176/barry060828eo2.jpg

The only man to lead the NBA (35.6), ABA (34.0) and NCAA (37.4) in scoring. Barry pioneered the point forward position, showing amazing ballhandling skills for a 6'7" player and deadly accuracy from almost any shooting distance.

Barry burst into the NBA as Rookie of the Year in 1966. After two seasons, he jumped to the ABA and led the Oakland Oaks to the ABA Championship. In 1968, the Oaks were the ABA's worst team, with a record of 22-56. Barry joined the team the following season and they improved to 60-18, devastating the opposition in the post season with a 12-1 playoff run to cap off their championship. The mercurial Barry jumped to the New Jersey Nets the following season and nearly delivered them a championship two years later.

In 1975, Barry pretty much singlehandedly carried the Golden State Warriors to the NBA title. The Warriors were huge underdogs to the Washington Bullets, but swept them in four straight games.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9435/rickbarrywarriorspl8.jpg


Eight time NBA All-Star (1966, 1967, 1973-78)


All-NBA First Team (1966, 1967, 1974, 1975, 1976)


ABA All-Star First Team (1969, 1970, 1971, 1972)


Third all time in career FT% - .893


12th all time in PPG - 24.8


16th all time in points - 25279


Consensus All-America (1965)


Led the nation in scoring (37.4 ppg) as a senior


NBA leading scorer in 1967 (35.6 ppg)


ABA leading scorer in 1969 (34.0 ppg)


NBA highest free-throw percentage 1973, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980


ABA highest free-throw percentage 1969, 1971, 1972


NBA Rookie of the Year (1966)


NBA Finals MVP (1975)


NBA All-Star Game MVP (1967)


NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team (1996)


The combination of Jerry West and Rick Barry gives me two of the most intense competitors who ever played the game, plus two of the greatest clutch shooters who ever lived. I have two coldblooded killers, with almost limitless range, and I would like to see who has a scarier team to defense with the score tied and ten seconds left on the game clock.


The Flying Lithuanians
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry

Master___Pain
06-15-2007, 01:23 AM
Well, my selection is another absolutely lethal shooter, the best long range assassin of the modern era. The Knick Killer aka Skeletor......

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGQ209~Reggie-Miller-2005-Playoffs-Jump-Shot-Posters.jpg

Ironically, Miller is tied with the previous pick Rick Berry at #16 in All time scoring

Miller became a household name during the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals against the New York Knicks, due to his phenomenal shooting performance in Game 5 of the series on June 1, 1994, in which he scored 39 points total and 25 in the fourth quarter of the Pacers' 93-86 victory at Madison Square Garden. Miller made several long three-pointers during the quarter and engaged in an animated discussion of his ongoing performance with noted Knicks fan Spike Lee, who was seated courtside. The win gave the Pacers a 3-2 series lead over the heavily favored Knicks, but the Pacers lost the next two games and thus the series.

On May 7, 1995, Miller scored eight points in 8.9 seconds in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks, leading the Pacers to a stunning 107-105 victory. With 16.4 seconds remaining and the Pacers trailing by six points, Miller made a three-point shot, stole the inbounds pass, retreated to the three-point arc and tied the game with a second three-pointer. On the ensuing possession, Knicks guard John Starks was fouled by Pacer Derrick McKey but missed two free throws; Miller rebounded the second miss and was fouled. Miller made both free throws, and the Pacers' defense denied the Knicks' last chance for the win. The Pacers outlasted the Knicks in a seven-game series before losing to the Orlando Magic in the conference finals, also four games to three.

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 01:29 AM
Any reference to "Skeletor" deserves rep. Could there be a more meaningless moniker that sums up both the goofiness and the seriousness of 1980's cartoon characters? All hail Skeletor.
http://www.shore-leave.com/archive/25/angie_and_skeletor.jpg

azbroncfan
06-15-2007, 01:29 AM
Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --James Worthy
10.Freak6 --Kobe
11. Rhymes --CLyde Drexler
12. Clockwork --Barkley
13. Slap --Rick Barry
14. Master Pain --Reggie Miller
15. GSReylea --
16. KillerIcon --

Clockwork Orange
06-15-2007, 02:08 AM
http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/m/miller_reggie/1998_0510knicks.jpg

Miller owning the Knicks and Spike Lee.

It's a shame that Reggie's last run at a ring was sabotaged by Ron Artest and the Malice at the Palace.

JCMElway
06-15-2007, 02:53 AM
GSReylea is on the clock at 10 PM CST on Thursday. He has 24 hours to select.

On deck are KillerIcon, GS Reylea, and MasterPain.

Man-Goblin
06-15-2007, 10:56 AM
Hey guys...just wanted to appologize I missed my picks. I was out of town and missed the PMs. Again I'm sorry.

GSRelyea
06-15-2007, 11:39 AM
With my second pick: Pistol Pete Maravich

Pete Maravich

Hall of Famer "Pistol Pete" Maravich was a spectacular showman who helped open up the game of basketball in the 1970s. After a legendary college career at Louisiana State, he played 10 productive seasons in the NBA, earning five trips to the NBA All-Star Game and one league scoring title. Maravich wasn't the first player to dribble behind his back or make a deft between-the-legs pass. But his playground moves, circus shots, and hotdog passes were considered outrageous during his era and, perhaps because he cultivated a freewheeling image, some basketball purists felt he was more style than substance.

G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
658 .441 .667 .820 2,747 4.2 3,563 5.4 587 108 15,948 24.2

Full Name: Peter Press Maravich
Born: 6/22/47 in Aliquippa, Pa
Died: 1/5/88
College: Louisiana State
Drafted: Atlanta Hawks, 1970 (third overall)
Transactions: Traded to New Orleans Jazz, 5/3/74; Jazz move to Utah, 1979; Waived by Utah, 1/17/80; Signed with Boston, 1/22/80 Nickname: Pistol Pete
Height: 6-5; Weight: 200 lbs.
High School: Daniel (Clemson, S.C.); Needham Broughton (Raleigh, N.C.); Edwards Military Institute (Salemburg, N.C.)
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1987); All-NBA First Team (1976, '77); All-NBA Second Team (1973, '78); All-Rookie Team (1971); Five-time NBA All-Star; One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).

KillerIcon is on the clock- My Pick was made at 10:38 am EST

phibacka31
06-15-2007, 02:27 PM
Wow I was taking my man REggie next round,i THOUGHT HE WOULD SLIDE

Master___Pain
06-15-2007, 02:33 PM
Wow I was taking my man REggie next round,i THOUGHT HE WOULD SLIDE

Reggie was at the top of the my list of four players I wanted to take. The other three are still on the board at this point, fingers crossed. (I know I just jinxed myself and the next three picks will be the three I want, lol)

JCMElway
06-15-2007, 02:42 PM
Killericon is on the clock at 9:38 AM CST on Friday. He has 24 hours to select.

Killericon
06-15-2007, 07:09 PM
With the last selection of the 2nd round, Killericon selects C Nate Thurmond.

http://cache.nba.com/media/history/history_summary_thurmond.jpg

Career Averages:
PPG - 15.0
RPG - 15.0
APG - 2.7
SPG - 0.1

With the first selection of the 3rd round, Killericon selects PG Jason Kidd.

http://www.nba.com/media/act_jason_kidd.jpg

Career Averages:
PPG - 8.0
RPG - 3.6
APG - 9.2
SPG - 2.7

Killericon
06-15-2007, 07:13 PM
Is the Kidd pick a reach? I was stuck scrambling for a playmaking point guard to feed Jordan, and AI didn't feel like a good idea. Plus, defensively, my team is looking solid.

Master___Pain
06-15-2007, 07:23 PM
Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --James Worthy
10.Freak6 --Kobe
11. Rhymes --CLyde Drexler
12. Clockwork --Barkley
13. Slap --Rick Barry
14. Master Pain --Reggie Miller
15. GSReylea --Pete Maravich
16. KillerIcon --Nate Thurmond

Round 3

1. Killericon -- Jason Kidd
2. GSReylea --
3. Master__Pain --
4. -Slap- -
5. Clockwork --
6. Rhymesayers DU --
7. Freak6 --
8. Phibacka --
9. Angryllama --
10. JCMElway --
11. BobHorry5 --
12. AZBroncfan --
13. Ludo21 --
14. Vancejohnson82 --
15. Eddie Mac --
16. Inkana7 --


GS you are on on the clock brotha

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 07:30 PM
Is the Kidd pick a reach? I was stuck scrambling for a playmaking point guard to feed Jordan, and AI didn't feel like a good idea. Plus, defensively, my team is looking solid.

I dont think so. Heck, Nash went in the first round. I dont think that you can definitively say that Nash is a better player historically than Kidd. Kidd has been the modern king of the triple double, and can do it by racking up defensive stats like rebounding and steals. I didnt realize that his career statistics were so slight though. Personally, I would have taken him before Nash and after Cousy. I would have picked them 1. Oscar Robinson, 2. Magic, 3. Stockton, 4. Jerry West, 5. Cousy, 6. Isaiah Thomas, 7. Kidd, 8. Walt Frazier, 9. Nash?

Kidd has led teams to the championship round, and is always a playoff contender. He's the king of the trip-dub. He's also a winner (at least after he left Dallas ;D ).

Killericon
06-15-2007, 07:39 PM
I dont think so. Heck, Nash went in the first round. I dont think that you can definitively say that Nash is a better player historically than Kidd. Kidd has been the modern king of the triple double, and can do it by racking up defensive stats like rebounding and steals. I didnt realize that his career statistics were so slight though. Personally, I would have taken him before Nash and after Cousy. I would have picked them 1. Oscar Robinson, 2. Magic, 3. Stockton, 4. Jerry West, 5. Cousy, 6. Isaiah Thomas, 7. Kidd, 8. Walt Frazier, 9. Nash?

Kidd has led teams to the championship round, and is always a playoff contender. He's the king of the trip-dub. He's also a winner (at least after he left Dallas ;D ).

His Playoff stats are much better than his regular season ones, plus, if his stats were one form his Nets days, they'd look better.

I was going to take Nash, in all honesty.

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 07:44 PM
His Playoff stats are much better than his regular season ones, plus, if his stats were one form his Nets days, they'd look better.
I was going to take Nash, in all honesty.

We all have our favorites. :peace:

Killericon
06-15-2007, 07:49 PM
We all have our favorites. :peace:

Favourite or not, can you imagine Nash feeding Jordan the way he feeds the guys on his team now? That'd just be insanity...

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 08:27 PM
Favourite or not, can you imagine Nash feeding Jordan the way he feeds the guys on his team now? That'd just be insanity...

That wouldnt work.

Jordan was a high useage player, just like Nash. Those guys are required to have the ball in their hands quite a bit to get the most out of their ability. With Nash, you want versatile offensive players who can scrap for baskets. With Jordan, you want complimentary players.

GSRelyea
06-15-2007, 08:41 PM
With the 2nd pick of the 3rd round GSRelyea selects: Nate Archibald

Nate Archibald

On his way to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, Nathaniel "Tiny" Archibald learned all about rising from desperate surroundings to extraordinary heights. It was an education that started early in life and served him well through a 14-year playing career that led him from the lowly Cincinnati Royals to an NBA Championship with the Boston Celtics. Before retiring at the end of the 1983-84 season, Archibald became the only player ever to lead the league in both scoring and assists in a season (34.0 ppg, 11.4 apg in 1972-73). At the time of his retirement, he also had 6,476 regular-season assists, which ranked ninth among the career leaders.

G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
876 .467 .224 .810 2046 2.3 6476 7.4 719 81 16481 18.8

Full Name: Nathaniel Archibald
Born: 9/2/48 in New York
High School: DeWitt Clinton, (Bronx, N.Y.)
College: Texas El-Paso
Drafted by: Cincinnati Royals, 1970 (19th overall)
Transactions: Traded to New York Nets, 9/10/76; Traded to Buffalo Braves, 9/1/77; Traded to Boston Celtics, 8/4/78; Signed with Milwaukee Bucks, 8/1/83 Nickname: Tiny
Height: 6-1
Weight: 160 lbs.
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1991); NBA champion (1981); All-NBA First Team (1973, '75, '76); All-NBA Second Team (1972, '81); Six-time All-Star; All-Star Game MVP (1981); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).

Master_Pain is on the clock - Pick was made at 6:40 CST

GSRelyea
06-15-2007, 08:42 PM
I was planning on taking Kidd with that pick, need a pg so Tiny was the next best I could come up with.

Master___Pain
06-15-2007, 08:50 PM
Phew, I was sweating this one.....With the 3rd pick in the 3rd round Master Pain Selects........


The Human Highlight Film
Dominique Wilkins
http://hs.riverdale.k12.or.us/maverick/files/Dominique_Wilkins_01.01.88.jpg

Perhaps best known for his gravity defying dunks, Nique was are prolific scorer on an underrated Hawks team that was often over shadowed by the Celtics, Pistons and Bulls in the Eastern Conference during the 80 and early nineties.

(I could be running a small ball team! I have my smalls figured out now I need some bigs!!!!!)

RhymesayersDU
06-15-2007, 09:20 PM
To whoever asked, no Kidd wasn't a reach. I was targeting him as well. How many times has he had triple doubles? A lot. Granted, he may be asked to rebound more than other PG's, but still.

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2007, 09:29 PM
To whoever asked, no Kidd wasn't a reach. I was targeting him as well. How many times has he had triple doubles? A lot. Granted, he may be asked to rebound more than other PG's, but still.

Kidd is really a historically unique player as far as style and production are concerned. I guess that he and magic may be alike. I think that Kidd is the best PG of his era. There was a span of 4-5 seasons where Kidd was the best guard in the league and arguably the top player. Kidd is a mult-facteded player with an extremely high B-ball IQ. I am surprised that he lasted as long as he did.

freak6
06-15-2007, 10:12 PM
Slap is up and I know exactly who is going to take, and I want him SO BAD.

Damnit!!!

-Slap-
06-15-2007, 10:15 PM
Time to get FREAKY!

Power forward Kevin McHale.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8785/aafo037kevinmchalephotodn2.jpg

I've got the two long range snipers, now I want to complement them with an unstoppable force in the low post. I've never seen anybody who was more automatic than McHale down low. The following is quoted from his bio on NBA.com:

"He became the most difficult low-post player to defend -- once he made the catch -- in the history of the league,"
contended former NBA coach Hubie Brown in the Boston Globe. "He was totally unstoppable because of his quickness,
diversification of moves and the long arms that gave him an angle to release the ball over a taller man or more explosive jumper."

He developed a low-post game that featured many moves not previously seen in the NBA or anywhere else. McHale had a grab bag
of drop steps, head fakes, pump fakes, baby jump hooks, shovel shots and fadeaways that confounded even the best defenders.
Anyone who drew McHale as an assignment was in trouble. He had no preferred spot. He could set up on either the right or left box.
He could take the turnaround from either the baseline or the middle and he had extraordinary range. He could catch and shoot immediately
or throw a head fake as the situation demanded. Amazingly, given his gawky legs and disproportionately long arms, he had extraordinary
balance. He had become a force on the inside at either forward or center.


Elected to Basketball Hall of Fame (1999)


Ranks ninth in NBA history in career field goal percentage (55.4%)


NBA champion (1981, '84, '86)


Seven time All Star (1984, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91)


All-NBA First Team (1987)


Sixth Man Award (1984, '85)


All-Defensive First Team (1986, '87, '88)


All-Defensive Second Team (1983, '89, '90)


Named to the NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team (1996)



The Flying Lithuanians
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale

azbroncfan
06-15-2007, 10:22 PM
The Flying Lithuanians
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale[/QUOTE]

Slap will have AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson tuning in soon.

ludo21
06-15-2007, 10:36 PM
I hear ya MP, my team is going to be a small ball team for sure. O well, its all in fun.

RhymesayersDU
06-16-2007, 12:19 AM
Considering that Slap's team name is the Flying Lithuanians, he's going to have to draft Linas with his last pick. It's only right.

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 12:39 AM
I'll finish off my starting frontline with not only a worthy selection, but a homer pick as well. :)

I'm proud to select Alex English, F, Bucks/Pacers/Nuggets/Mavericks.

http://www.nba.com/media/history/english_300.jpg

Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1976-77 23 MIL NBA 60 10.8 2.2 4.6 0.8 1.0 1.1 1.7 2.8 0.4 0.3 0.3 1.3 5.2
1977-78 24 MIL NBA 82 18.9 4.2 7.7 1.3 1.7 1.8 3.1 4.8 1.6 0.5 0.7 1.7 2.2 9.6
1978-79 25 IND NBA 81 33.3 7.0 13.6 2.1 2.8 3.1 5.0 8.1 3.3 0.9 1.0 2.4 2.6 16.0
1979-80 26 IND NBA 54 28.3 6.4 12.7 0.0 0.1 2.1 2.6 3.1 3.9 7.0 2.6 0.8 0.6 2.3 2.4 14.9
DEN NBA 24 36.5 8.6 17.8 0.1 0.1 4.0 5.3 4.3 5.1 9.4 3.4 1.2 1.2 3.8 3.3 21.3
TOT NBA 78 30.8 7.1 14.3 0.0 0.1 2.7 3.4 3.4 4.3 7.8 2.9 0.9 0.8 2.7 2.6 16.9
1980-81 27 DEN NBA 81 38.2 9.5 19.2 0.0 0.1 4.8 5.7 3.4 4.6 8.0 3.6 1.3 1.2 3.0 3.1 23.8
1981-82 28 DEN NBA 82 36.8 10.4 18.9 0.0 0.1 4.5 5.4 2.6 4.2 6.8 5.3 1.1 1.5 3.2 3.2 25.4
1982-83 29 DEN NBA 82 36.4 11.7 22.6 0.0 0.1 5.0 6.0 3.2 4.1 7.3 4.8 1.4 1.5 3.2 2.9 28.4
1983-84 30 DEN NBA 82 35.0 11.1 20.9 0.0 0.1 4.3 5.2 2.6 3.0 5.7 5.0 1.0 1.2 2.7 3.1 26.4
1984-85 31 DEN NBA 81 36.1 11.6 22.4 0.0 0.1 4.7 5.7 2.5 3.1 5.7 4.2 1.2 0.6 3.1 3.2 27.9
1985-86 32 DEN NBA 81 37.3 11.7 23.3 0.0 0.1 6.3 7.3 2.4 2.6 5.0 4.0 0.9 0.4 3.1 2.9 29.8
1986-87 33 DEN NBA 82 37.6 11.8 23.4 0.0 0.2 5.0 5.9 1.8 2.4 4.2 5.1 0.9 0.3 2.6 2.6 28.6
1987-88 34 DEN NBA 80 35.2 10.5 21.3 0.0 0.1 3.9 4.7 2.1 2.6 4.7 4.7 0.9 0.3 2.3 2.4 25.0
1988-89 35 DEN NBA 82 36.5 11.3 22.9 0.0 0.1 4.0 4.6 1.8 2.2 4.0 4.7 0.8 0.1 2.4 2.1 26.5
1989-90 36 DEN NBA 80 27.6 7.9 16.2 0.0 0.1 2.0 2.3 1.5 2.1 3.6 2.8 0.6 0.3 1.2 1.6 17.9
1990-91 37 DAL NBA 79 22.1 4.1 9.3 0.0 0.0 1.5 1.8 1.4 1.8 3.2 1.3 0.5 0.3 1.3 1.8 9.7
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
15 Seasons 1193 31.9 8.9 17.6 0.0 0.1 3.6 4.3 2.3 3.2 5.5 3.6 0.9 0.7 2.5 2.5 21.5
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+

An eight time All-Star and three time all NBA 2nd team selection. English was the first player in NBA history to record 2000+ points in eight consecutive seasons and scored more points in the 80's than any other player. Led the Nuggets to the playoffs nine times in ten years, including their only appearance in the Conference Finals. Was the 7th on the all-time scoring list when he retired.

My yet to be named team so far
G
G
C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
F Alex English
F Charles Barkley

This pick was made at 9:35 P.M. MST. Rhymes is now on the clock.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2007, 01:14 AM
It's hard to believe that nobody has selected the NBA's first superstar and first dominant center: George Mikan.

RhymesayersDU
06-16-2007, 02:42 AM
At 11:42 MST, I have chosen to give the rock to one player suited to both score and pass very well. Call him a SF, call him a PG, call him a Point-Foward, call him whatever you want.

I prefer King James.

http://www.interbasket.net/players/usa/lebron2.jpg

Already averaging 27 PPG, 7 RPG, and 6 APG at the tender age of 22, he will only continue to improve, and can already take over games, as seen in the jaw-dropping 48 points he poured in against the Pistons in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals.

Runnin' & Gunnin'
PG - LeBron James
SG - Clyde Drexler
SF -
PF -
C - Shaquille O'Neal

Freak6 is now on the clock!

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 02:50 AM
Nice last two picks.

Freak6 is on the clock. He has until 1 PM CST on Saturday to select.

Phibacka, angryllama, and JCM are on deck.

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 04:16 AM
Freak PMed Slap and said that he wanted to select Robert Parrish, C, Celtics.

Angryllama is on the clock. He has until 2:30 PM CST to make his selection.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2007, 04:58 AM
Here's the inevitable:

The Current NBA Most Valuable Player:

DIRK NOWITZKI
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8738/dirk1yh.jpg
http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123037/2133425/2140924/060524_SN_NowitzkiTN.jpg

Nowitzki has revolutionized the PF position, and simultaneously opened the door for foreign players to assume starring roles on NBA teams. It's a phenomenon akin to an American soccer player showing up in Europe and becoming a world superstar.

Nowitzki has been the key element in the turning around of a Dallas franchise that was a perennial lottery team. Since Dirk's arrival, he has led the Mavericks to the playoffs 7 out of his 9 seasons including a trip to the NBA Finals. During that stretch in the playoffs, he displayed the type of performances that very few have achieved before him, including a 50 point game to put his team ahead in the second half of the 2005-2006 Conference Finals and a legendary performance in game 7 of the classic Mavs/Spurs tilt.

Nowitzki has become the model for a whole new type of player: the versatile, scoring, elbow-oriented big. Dirk is quite possibly the greatest big man shooter of all-time.

Dirk is the only player in NBA history to have both blocked 100 shots and made 150 three pointers. Dirk is the reigning NBA MVP. Dirk has been a 7-time All-NBA selection. Dirk has been a 6-time all-star, and the only European player to ever start an all-star game. Dirk is the only player to win the MVP Award to have never played in a US preparatory school or college. Dirk has joined Rick Barry and Larry Bird as the only players in NBA history to score 26+ points and shoot 90% FT in a season. Became the second player in NBA history to lead the league in Win Shares for three consecutive seasons (the only other was Micheal Jordan).

From Wikipedia:
Named MVP and was the leading scorer of the 2002 Basketball World Championships in Indianapolis, Indiana, winning the bronze medal with the German national team
Named MVP and was the leading scorer of the 2005 European Championship, winning the silver medal with the German national team
Named FIBA European Basketball Player of the Year in 2005.
Named European Basketball Player of the Year by Italian sports newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport for five years in a row: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
Runner-up in the 2005 edition of Germany's Athlete of the Year Award (Sportler des Jahres)
He is the tallest NBA player to win the 3-point shootout at 7 ft 0 in (2.13 m).

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2007, 05:07 AM
The Biochem Nerd Parade:

PG Bob Cousy
SG
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF
C Bill Russell

phibacka31
06-16-2007, 05:54 AM
I'll go with another young gun: Phibacka31 selects: D WADE^5 http://www.interbasket.net/players/usa/wade6.jpg

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 01:01 PM
Hey all, I'm running out the door right now. I'll make my pick around 5 PM CST. Sorry for the delay!

Jens1893
06-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Considering that Slap's team name is the Flying Lithuanians, he's going to have to draft Linas with his last pick. It's only right.

I wonder if he gave away the guy he wants at center with that name.

Master___Pain
06-16-2007, 02:40 PM
I'll finish off my starting frontline with not only a worthy selection, but a homer pick as well. :)

I'm proud to select Alex English, F, Bucks/Pacers/Nuggets/Mavericks.

http://www.nba.com/media/history/english_300.jpg


My yet to be named team so far
G
G
C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
F Alex English
F Charles Barkley

This pick was made at 9:35 P.M. MST. Rhymes is now on the clock.

Nice pick CO. He was one of the three I had targeted when I selected Nique. Great pick. It's interesting to see guys like lebron,dirk and Wade go this early. All immensely talented, but in the top 36 players of all time? I dunno about that quite yet.

RhymesayersDU
06-16-2007, 03:50 PM
Nice pick CO. He was one of the three I had targeted when I selected Nique. Great pick. It's interesting to see guys like lebron,dirk and Wade go this early. All immensely talented, but in the top 36 players of all time? I dunno about that quite yet.

For me personally, it's a size issue. Who in history would be able to guard LeBron with his size and speed at the point? Magic probably, but who else? Same with Shaq. I don't want to put down other centers through time, but I don't know which one of them could really handle Shaq. Granted, could Shaq handle them on D? Debatable. But being 7 feet tall and like 300 pounds, that is a monster of a man.

As much as we hammer Dirk on this board, llama is putting him at SF. Who in the history of the game could deal with a 7-footer who could rain 3's at the SF position?

Obviously, some legends have been passed up, and they were great, and had phenomenal career stats. MVPs, All-Star games galore. But IMO some of these kids could play with them right now.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2007, 04:29 PM
Nice pick CO. He was one of the three I had targeted when I selected Nique. Great pick. It's interesting to see guys like lebron,dirk and Wade go this early. All immensely talented, but in the top 36 players of all time? I dunno about that quite yet.

I think that Dirk has the resume to enter into the conversation. He still has the years to continue to improve on that resume. Dirk is a historically unique player, only approximately similar to a few guys...Bob Petit, Bob McAdoo. A Championship is really all that Dirk is missing, and he'll have several shots to take care of that over the next 4-5 seasons.

LeBron is interesting, because he has no historical comparison. He's somewhere in-between Magic Johnson, Charles Oakley (strength), and Dominique Wilkins and could eventually end up the best player ever, but he doesnt have the resume quite yet. I am pretty confident that although LeBron had a disappointing showing in the finals, and undoubtedly will have some disappointments along the way, that he will ultimately in his prime be a completely unique and unstoppable force.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2007, 04:31 PM
I wonder if he gave away the guy he wants at center with that name.

If Sabonis would have played his entire career stateside, he would have been a top 50 player.

freak6
06-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Yo, I changed my mind about Robert Parrish, and the guy I want is still out there, can I change my pick??
I know I pm'd Slap about taking the Chief, but I changed my mind after debating between him and a Guard.
I want

Jens1893
06-16-2007, 08:01 PM
If Sabonis would have played his entire career stateside, he would have been a top 50 player.

I also wonder if Drazen Petrovic is gonna get any kind of love in this draft.

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 08:07 PM
OK, the pick is in! Those Cheap Bastards select:

Bob Pettit, PF/C, Milwaukee Hawks

Bob Pettit, 6'9", 230 lbs

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1970); NBA champion (1958); NBA MVP (1956, '59); 10-time All-NBA First Team (1955-64); All-NBA second team (1965); Rookie of the Year (1955); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
792 .436 .761 12,849 16.2 2,369 3.0 20,880 26.4

Points per game all time -- 6th
Rebounds per game -- 3rd

Blocks and steals were not recorded during his playing time, but he had a lot of those too!

Quotes:

After Pettit's playing days had ended, rival Bill Russell offered this tribute: "Bob made 'second effort' a part of the sport's vocabulary. He kept coming at you more than any man in the game. He was always battling for position, fighting you off the boards."

Pettit was 32 years old at the end of the 1964-65 campaign, and he decided to call it quits. He retired having accumulated 20,880 points(26.4 ppg), the most ever scored in the NBA at that time, and his 12,849 rebounds ranked him second all-time. He never averaged fewer than 20 points, nor did he miss an All-Star Game in any of his 11 seasons. His rebounding totals were no less impressive: he never fell below 10 rebounds per game for a season and his career average was 16.2 -- still third best in league history behind Wilt Chamberlain and Russell.

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 08:09 PM
BobHorry5 is on the clock. He has until 6 AM CST on Sunday to make his pick

freak6
06-16-2007, 08:35 PM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/janepsite/misc/iverson.jpg

Can I get Iverson instead of Parrish? I'm lost!

I want the scoring champ, ultra competitive, unguardable, 2001 NBA MVP, Allen Iverson!!!

-Slap-
06-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Freak's pick is changed to Answer Iverson.

Chief Parish goes back into the player pool.

RhymesayersDU
06-16-2007, 09:02 PM
As long as the guy right after Freak didn't want AI, and it doesn't look like he did since he chose Pettit, it's fine by me if he changes. I don't think anybody would object.

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 09:16 PM
I don't object at all.

Iverson for Parrish. So let it be written, so let it be done.

Iverson was a consideration, but I just couldn't pass up a low presence post player who could score, rebound, and get after it defensively. Now Stockton has someone to pick and roll with! :thumbs:

BobHorry5
06-16-2007, 09:34 PM
congrats guys on taking potential in an all time draft gr8 frickin job... i too will take a current player on that note but 1 who deserves to be mentioned here
Ray Allen sg/bitch slapper



All-NBA Second Team: 2005
All-NBA Third Team: 2001
7-time NBA All-Star: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
NBA Joe Dumars Sportsmanship Award: 2003
NBA All-Star Weekend Three-point Shootout champion: 2001
Holds NBA record for most three-point field goals made in a regular season with 269 in 2005-06 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_NBA_season) [4] (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2414803).
NBA regular season leader, three-point field goals attempted: 2006 (653)
NBA all-time career three-point field goals made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_three-point_field_goals_made_in_National_Basketball_Asso ciation_history): 2nd with 1,920 (as of April 7, 2007)
Holds NBA record for most seasons leading the league in three-point field goals made with 3 (2001-02 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001-02_NBA_season) with 229, 2002-03 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002-03_NBA_season) with 201, 2005-06 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_NBA_season) with 269)
Shares NBA record for most three-point field goals made in one half with 8 (April 14, 2002 vs. the Charlotte Hornets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans/Oklahoma_City_Hornets)).
Holds Milwaukee Bucks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Bucks) franchise records for most consecutive games played (400), most career three-point field goals made (1,051), and most career three-point field goals attempted (2,587).
Ranks 69th all time on the NBA's scoring leader list trailing Bob Cousy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cousy) (as of 13-Mar-2007).
Member of the 2000 United States Men's basketball team, which won gold at the Sydney Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Olympics).
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ray_Allen&action=edit&section=4)]

JCMElway
06-16-2007, 10:45 PM
AZ Broncfan is on the clock at 7 PM CST. He has until 7 AM CST to select.

Ludo, VJ82, and Eddie Mac are on deck.

azbroncfan
06-16-2007, 11:52 PM
http://www.historylink.org/db_images/sonics008.JPG

Need a PG and GP when he was in Seattle was a great player and it gives me a solid outside presence. Team is solid on Defense with


THE NBA INFO MINISTERS

PF Malone
SF ??
C David Robinson
PG Payton
SG

freak6
06-17-2007, 12:18 AM
PF Malone
SF ??
C David Robinson
PG Payton
SG



Nice pick. Ha haa!

I can't wait to see what white guy Slap takes next!

Freak's Most Valuable Players



PG - Allen Iverson
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Larry Bird
PF -
C -

-Slap-
06-17-2007, 02:07 AM
http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC00157/BestBasketballPlayers/BestBasketballPictures/act_gary_payton.jpg

Need a PG and GP when he was in Seattle was a great player and it gives me a solid outside presence. Team is solid on Defense with


THE NBA INFO MINISTERS

PF Malone
SF ??
C David Robinson
PG Payton
SG

Gary Payton is the biggest steal of the draft so far. He should have gone right after Zeke and Stockton.

azbroncfan
06-17-2007, 02:18 AM
Gary Payton is the biggest steal of the draft so far. He should have gone right after Zeke and Stockton.

People tend to forget about how good he was since he has been a role player last couple years. His big shot in game 3 in NBA finals propelled the heat to 4 straight.

-Slap-
06-17-2007, 02:28 AM
People tend to forget about how good he was since he has been a role player last couple years. His big shot in game 3 in NBA finals propelled the heat to 4 straight.

First team all defense nine times. First team all trash talk every year while he was good. Durable as hell, too.

freak6
06-17-2007, 02:33 AM
First team all trash talk every year while he was good.

You should have heard him clowning Chris Jackson aka Mahmoud Abdul Raouf!

He was twitching and cussing sporatically, immitating Jackson's tourette syndrom every time down the court.

still lmfao

JCMElway
06-17-2007, 03:26 AM
Ludo is on the clock. He has until 1 PM CST to make his selection.

VJ82, Eddie Mac, and Inkana7 are on deck, and then on deck again for round four!

ludo21
06-17-2007, 03:33 PM
Ok, so I dont know old school B Ball well at all!

Amare Stoudemire "Stat"

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OXf9Nv79EOYpWM:http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGO204~Amare-Stoudemire-04-05-Action-Posters.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGO204~Amare-Stoudemire-04-05-Action-Posters.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Amare-Stoudemire-04-05-Action-Posters_i1210653_.htm&h=425&w=337&sz=49&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=OXf9Nv79EOYpWM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstoudemire%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2003-47,GGLD:en)

Nuggets4
06-17-2007, 06:21 PM
Ludo, why don't you just save time and just use the following page for future picks:

http://www.nba.com/suns/history/00826004.html

JCMElway
06-17-2007, 06:47 PM
VJ82 is on the clock. He has until 3 AM CST Monday to make his selection.

On deck -- Eddie Mac, Inkana (2 picks,) Eddie Mac, VJ82, and Ludo.

RhymesayersDU
06-17-2007, 07:56 PM
Ludo, why don't you just save time and just use the following page for future picks:

http://www.nba.com/suns/history/00826004.html

SHHHHH, I want KJ later!

ludo21
06-18-2007, 04:04 AM
Ludo, why don't you just save time and just use the following page for future picks:

http://www.nba.com/suns/history/00826004.html

Ha!

I got the big guy I wanted and the PG I wanted, maybe a little early, but Id take them over half those old schoolers picked before them.

Time for a forward next round....

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 05:18 AM
Ha!

I got the big guy I wanted and the PG I wanted, maybe a little early, but Id take them over half those old schoolers picked before them.

Time for a forward next round....

I think Nash was taken at about the right time.

Stoudemire? R...E...A....C.....H.......

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 05:20 AM
VJ82's time has expired. (I can't believe I'm up this late! Oh well.....)

Eddie Mac is on the clock. He has until 3 PM CST on Monday to make his selection.

VJ82 may make a selection at any time.

Jens1893
06-18-2007, 06:18 AM
Ha!

I got the big guy I wanted and the PG I wanted, maybe a little early, but Id take them over half those old schoolers picked before them.

Time for a forward next round....

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/ian_thomsen/02/01/marion.sonics/t1_marion.jpg

?

eddie mac
06-18-2007, 09:39 AM
Thanks for the tip Lama. The Fighting Irish select George Mikan C Lakers.

George Mikan

It's hard to believe today, but until the 1940s basketball was considered a sport better suited to shorter men than to taller, less nimble players. George Mikan, a 6-10 giant of a man who possessed superior coordination and a fierce competitive spirit, was one of the prototypes for the dominating tall players of later decades. Towering over most of his competitors, he was one of the most effective scorers of his day, averaging 22.6 points over a professional career that lasted nine years -- one with the Chicago American Gears and eight with the Minneapolis Lakers

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1959); NBA champion (1950, '52, '53, '54); Five-time All-NBA First Team (1950-54); Four-time NBA All-Star (1951-54); All-Star MVP (1953); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
NBL Honors: NBL champion (1947, '48); NBL MVP (1948); All-NBL First Team (1947, '48).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
439 .404 .782 4,167 9.5 1,245 2.8 10,156 23.1

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 12:20 PM
Inkana7 is on the clock at 9 AM CST. He has until 9 AM CST to make his selection. (Two picks, two draft slots)

VJ82 may make a selection at anytime.

I will make an alphabetical list for everyone soon, as well as the pick by pick update.

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 12:21 PM
Don't forget that one of our 13 picks is a coach.

Inkana7
06-18-2007, 12:47 PM
In that case...

With my first pick, I choose

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/717-1/phil-jackson-20690186.jpg

Phil Jackson, Coach

A former player for the New York Knicks, Jackson is widely considered one of the greatest coaches in the history of the National Basketball Association. His reputation was established as head coach of the Chicago Bulls from 1989 through 1998; during his tenure in Chicago, Jackson led the team to six NBA titles. His reputation was furthered when his next team, the Los Angeles Lakers, won three consecutive NBA titles.

Jackson is known for his use of Tex Winter's triangle offense as well as a holistic approach to coaching that is influenced by Eastern philosophy, earning him the nickname "Zen Master".

Overall Record

Regular Season: 919-393(.700)
Playoffs: 179-77(.699)




My Roster so far:

F: Elgin Baylor
F:
C: Patrick Ewing
G:
G:

Coach: Phil Jackson

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 12:50 PM
Hey Inkana, Jason kidd was already selected by Killericon. Sorry I don't have the list up yet. I know it makes things confusing. Tonight it will be done.

Inkana is still on the clock until 9 PM with one pick

vancejohnson82
06-18-2007, 03:41 PM
http://www.espnstar.com/photo/860439alonzo_mourning_191203.jpg

There he is....Zo

Is a seven-time NBA All-Star and two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year…is a two-time NBA Rookie of the Month and one-time NBA Player of the Month…has earned First Team All-NBA honors once, Second Team All-NBA honors once and First Team All-Defensive honors twice…six times in his career (five times with Miami) he has been named NBA Player of the Week...has appeared in 736 games and has made 643 starts in his 13-year NBA career…has averaged 18.3 points, 9.1 rebounds, 2.90 blocks, 1.3 assists and 32.6 minutes while shooting 52.6 percent from the floor, 24.7 percent from three-point range and 69.9 percent from the foul line…has scored in double figures on 630 occasions with 335 games of at least 20 points, 55 games of 30-or-more points, four games of at least 40 points and one 50-point effort…has grabbed double figures in rebounds on 332 occasions with five games of at least 20 rebounds…has recorded 327 career double-doubles, including a career-high eight straight from Mar. 2, 1995 through Mar. 16, 1995…only five times in his career has he grabbed double-figure rebounds in a game and not recorded a double-double (once with Charlotte and four with Miami)…his career high for most consecutive games scoring in double figures is 105 and was set from Jan. 4, 1995 through Mar. 14, 1996 (first 53 games of the streak he played for Charlotte and the final 52 he was a member of the HEAT)…owns the second longest streak in HEAT history for consecutive double-figure scoring efforts (75 from Mar. 23, 1999 through Feb. 23, 2000)…is Miami’s all-time leader in games played (491), blocked shots (1,405), free throws made (2,328) and free throws attempted (3,512)…ranks second in HEAT history in field goal percentage (.535), points scored (8,649), offensive (1,345), defensive (3,019) and total rebounds (4,364), field goals made (3,155), field goals attempted (5,895), minutes played (15,739), double-doubles (203), double-figure scoring efforts (408) and starts (415)…also enters the 2006-07 season 10th on Miami’s all-time list steals with 287…enters the 2006-07 season ranked third among active players in the NBA in regular season career field goal percentage (.526), blocked shots (2,136) and free throw attempts (5,478), seventh among active players in free throws made (3,827), ninth in defensive rebounds (4,670), 10th in total rebounds (6,694) and 19th in points scored (13,501)…enters the 2006-07 season in 10th place on the NBA’s all-time blocked shots list (2,136)…concluded the 2006 postseason ranked fifth among active players in postseason free throw attempts (564) and blocks (212), sixth in field goal percentage (.507), eighth in free throws made (397), 10th in total rebounds (657) and 19th in points scored (1,266)…has recorded at least one block in 667 of 736 career games…owns each of the top five spots on the HEAT’s single-season blocks list and six of the top seven…has appeared in 91 postseason games (57 starts) and has averaged 13.9 points, 7.2 rebounds, 2.33 blocks and 27.9 minutes while shooting 50.7 percent from the floor and 65.5 percent from the foul line…is Miami’s all-time postseason leader in games played (78), free throws attempted (470), offensive rebounds (136), defensive rebounds (379), total rebounds (515), blocked shots (168) and is tied for the lead in double-doubles (14)…also ranks among Miami’s postseason leaders in games started (2nd , 44), minutes played (2nd, 2,001), points (2nd, 964), double-figure scoring efforts (2nd, 45), 20-point games (2nd, 21), field goals made (2nd, 336), field goals attempted (2nd, 645), free throws made (2nd, 289), steals (5th, 36) and assists (tied for 9th, 56)…owns each of the HEAT’s top three single-game postseason blocks marks…has scored in double figures 58 times in postseason play with 30 games of at least 20 points and six games with 30-or-more points…had a postseason career best streak of 35 consecutive games in double-figure scoring from Apr. 29, 1993 through Apr. 26, 1998…grabbed double-figure rebounds in 22 postseason contests and has recorded 22 postseason double-doubles…his postseason career high for consecutive double-doubles is three games and was done on two occasions (May 18, 1993-Apr. 30, 1995 and Apr. 29, 1997-May 4, 1997)…started each of his first 55 postseason contests (Apr. 29, 1993-Apr. 27, 2001)…has shot a combined 70.4 percent from the floor the last two postseasons, connecting on at least 70 percent each season…has been selected to play in seven NBA All-Star Games, but has missed three due to injury…in his four All-Star appearances he has averaged 10.0 points, 4.8 rebounds, 2.00 blocks and 18.8 minutes while shooting 54.5 percent (18-33) from the floor.

Between him and Zeke my team is going to be ultra competetive

eddie mac
06-18-2007, 04:41 PM
Round 1

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --James Worthy
10.Freak6 --Kobe
11. Rhymes --CLyde Drexler
12. Clockwork --Barkley
13. Slap --Rick Barry
14. Master Pain --Reggie Miller
15. GSReylea --Pete Maravich
16. KillerIcon –Nate Thurmond

Round 3
1. Killericon --Jason Kidd
2. GSReylea --Nate Archibald
3. Master__Pain -- Dominique Wilkins
4. -Slap- - Kevin McHale
5. Clockwork –Alex English
6. Rhymesayers DU – LeBron James
7. Freak6 – Allen Iverson
8. Phibacka –D Wade
9. Angryllama – Dirk Novitsky
10. JCMElway –Bob Pettit
11. BobHorry5 –Ray Allen
12. AZBroncfan – Gary Payton
13. Ludo21 – Amere Stoudemire
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Alonzo Mourning
15. Eddie Mac -- George Mikan
16. Inkana7 -- Phil Jackson (Coach)

Round 4
1. Inkana7 --
2. Eddie Mac --

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 07:15 PM
Thanks Eddie Mac, that's a big help. here's the alphabetical list.

Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem
Allen, Ray
Archibald, Nate
Barkley, Charles
Barry, Rick
Baylor, Elgin
Bird, Larry
Bryant, Kobe
Chamberlain, Wilt
Cousy, Bob
Drexler, Clyde
Duncan, Tim
English, Alex
Erving, Julius
Ewing, Patrick
Frazier, Walt
Gervin, George
Havlicek, John
Iverson, Allen
Jackson, Phil
James, Lebron
Johnson, Earvin
Jordan, Michael
Kidd, Jason
Malone, Karl
Malone, Moses
Maravich, Pete
McHale, Kevin
Mikan, George
Miller, Reggie
Mourning, Alanzo
Nash, Steve
Noivitsky, Dirk
Olajuwon, Hakeem
O'Neal, Shaquille
Payton, Gary
Petit, Bob
Robertson, Oscar
Robinson, David
Russel, Bill
Stockton, John
Stoudemire, Amare
Thomas, Isiah
Thurmond, Nate
Wade, Dewayne
West, Jerry
Wilkins, Dominique
Worthy, James

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 07:16 PM
Inkana knows about the Kidd thing. He PMed me and will have a pick in soonish.

Inkana7
06-18-2007, 08:30 PM
We're going back a few years for this pick:

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(College picture)

Lenny Wilkins

Lenny Wilkens was drafted sixth overall by the St. Louis Hawks in the 1960 NBA Draft. He played for the Hawks (1960-1968), Seattle SuperSonics (1968-1972), Cleveland Cavaliers (1972-1974) and Portland Trail Blazers (1974-1975).

Wilkens placed second to Wilt Chamberlain in the 1967-1968 MVP balloting. Wilkens was a nine-time NBA All-Star, and was named the All-Star Game MVP in 1971. He led the league in assists in the 1969-70 season, and at the time of his retirement, Wilkens was the NBA's second all-time leading playmaker, behind only Oscar Robertson.

freak6
06-18-2007, 10:25 PM
We're going back a few years for this pick:


Lenny Wilkins
As your coach right?

lol!

jking

Inkana7
06-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I needed a point guard and pretty soon I'd be drafting Daniel Gibson.

Clockwork Orange
06-18-2007, 10:55 PM
I needed a point guard and pretty soon I'd be drafting Daniel Gibson.

Nah, if you're gonna be a Cavs homer, go for Mark Price. :yep:

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/richard_deitsch/03/24/price_qa/p1_price.jpg

JCMElway
06-18-2007, 11:35 PM
Eddie Mac is on the clock at 9 PM CST. He has until 9 AM CST to select.

VJ82, Ludo, and AZBroncofan are on deck.

Also, I have edited my first two posts on this thread to update the players taken per round and alphabetically. A while back posters lost their ability to edit a post after a certain amount of time, but this is no longer the case. (Thanks for the heads up Jens.)

So, look to posts one and two of this thread to stay current with the picks. That is all.

RhymesayersDU
06-19-2007, 01:04 AM
I just want to know if you draft a player who goes on to become coach, if they can go both ways as player-coach.

Ok, maybe that's not serious, but taking Lenny Wilkins, and freak asking "as a player or coach" got me thinking.

/takes a young George Karl

JCMElway
06-19-2007, 02:23 AM
I just want to know if you draft a player who goes on to become coach, if they can go both ways as player-coach.

Ok, maybe that's not serious, but taking Lenny Wilkins, and freak asking "as a player or coach" got me thinking.

/takes a young George Karl

I'd say you take them as a player OR a coach. Not either or. Lenny Wilkens coaching a team in his 20s wouldn't be great. Or trying to play guard in his 60s. Ugh.

That being said, Lenny Wilkens is still available as a coach. Now that's bending the parameters of time and space, huh?

RhymesayersDU
06-19-2007, 10:17 AM
I'd say you take them as a player OR a coach. Not either or. Lenny Wilkens coaching a team in his 20s wouldn't be great. Or trying to play guard in his 60s. Ugh.

That being said, Lenny Wilkens is still available as a coach. Now that's bending the parameters of time and space, huh?

Where's a flux capacitor when you need it?

JCMElway
06-19-2007, 01:10 PM
Eddie Mac's time has expired he may select at any time.

VJ82 is on the clock at 9 AM CST. He has until 9 PM CST to select.

vancejohnson82
06-19-2007, 02:00 PM
With my 4th selection I'll take

Bernard King

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One of the most explosive scorers of his era, Bernard King had a fascinating career. Major knee reconstruction cost him two years at the peak of his abilities. When he returned to the court despite great odds against a comeback, he had to adjust his style of play to accommodate his diminished physical abilities. He proved many skeptics wrong when he became an All-Star. He poured in more than 19,000 points in a career spent with the New Jersey Nets, Utah Jazz, Golden State Warriors, New York Knicks and Washington Bullets.
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http://www.nba.com/images/blank.gifhttp://www.nba.com/images/blank.gifA point machine in stretches, King won the NBA scoring title in 1984-85 by averaging 32.9 points per game.

King came from a distinguished basketball family. His younger brother, Albert, was once considered the greatest high school player in the country and went on to play for several years in the NBA. Bernard was a prep star at Brooklyn's Fort Hamilton High School and moved on to a turbulent career at Tennessee marked by stardom on the court and a number of controversial incidents off of it. He declared himself eligible for the 1977 NBA Draft after his junior year, during which he had scored an average of 25.8 points per game.
The New York Nets (the franchise moved to New Jersey before the 1977-78 season) selected King with the seventh overall pick. As a rookie he led the team in scoring and placed 10th in the NBA with 24.2 points per game. He earned a berth on the NBA All-Rookie Team but lost out on Rookie of the Year honors to the Phoenix Suns' Walter Davis. The Nets, however, brought up the rear in the Atlantic Division with a 24-58 record.
King followed his rookie campaign with a 21.6 scoring average. But although he was a dominating player, his off-court problems continued. The Nets dealt him to Utah, where he played only 19 games in 1979-80 before seeking treatment for substance abuse. "I realized that if I drank, there would be no career, there would be no life," he told HOOP magazine years later. "There's not much more you can say after that."
Before the 1980-81 season, the Jazz traded King to Golden State for Wayne Cooper and a second-round draft choice. King spent two seasons with the Warriors and averaged better than 20 ppg each year. In 1980-81 he averaged 21.9 ppg, shot .588 from the floor, and was named NBA Comeback Player of the Year. In 1981-82, he led the team with 23.2 ppg, made his first All-Star Game appearance and was selected to the All-NBA Second Team. He ranked eighth in the league in scoring and seventh in field-goal percentage at .566.
King was not flamboyant, just effective. A 6-7 small forward, he was a formidable offensive force who was at his best when posting up a defender with his back to the basket, then spinning right or left to shake free for a lightning-quick turnaround jump shot. He shot .500 or better from the field for seven consecutive seasons.
After the 1981-82 campaign, King signed as a veteran free agent with the New York Knicks. The Warriors exercised their right of first refusal, matching the offer and then trading King to the Knicks for Micheal Ray Richardson and a draft choice.
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King enjoyed his greatest glory while playing in a New York uniform. His scoring output increased each year with the Knicks, from 21.9 points per game in 1982-83 to 26.3 per contest (fifth in the league) in 1983-84.
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King enjoyed his greatest glory while playing in a New York uniform. His scoring output increased each year with the Knicks, from 21.9 ppg in 1982-83 to 26.3 ppg (fifth in the league) in 1983-84. On Jan. 31 and Feb. 1, he posted back-to-back 50-point outings against the San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Mavericks. He also returned to the All-Star Game that year and earned his first spot on the All-NBA First Team.
He almost single-handely led the Knicks to a 3-2 first round series win over the Detroit Pistons as he posted over 40 points in four games and 36 in the other. King averaged 34.8 ppg in the entire 1984 NBA Playoffs, before losing in the Eastern Conference Semifinals to the Boston Celtics in seven games.
In 1984-85 King was the main attraction in the Big Apple and beyond. He led the NBA in scoring with an average of 32.9 ppg, including one memorable heat wave in the middle of winter. On Christmas Day he scored 60 points against New Jersey (a Knick franchise record), and on Feb. 16, he rained in 55 points against the Nets.
"Talk to any guy who's a scorer, and he'll tell you there are times when you go into a zone," King told Inside Sports. "When I was averaging 30 points a game. I didn't have to think about anything. Everything is happening on a very instinctual level.. On a particular night, no matter what you do, there's a feeling it's going to work. It's an incredible feeling. There's nothing like it."
Then his fairy-tale season had a horror-movie ending. On March 23 at Kansas City, King crumbled to the floor with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. The knee was so seriously mangled that he missed the subsequent 1985-86 season and all but the final six games of the 1986-87 campaign.
That injury prompted a slump by the Knicks at the conclusion of the 1984-85 season and eventually placed the team in the first NBA Draft Lottery for non-playoff teams. The Knicks were fortunate by getting the number one selection in the 1985 Draft and selected Patrick Ewing (http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_summary.html). However, King missed Ewing's entire rookie season and in the next season, Ewing was injured for the six games King played. In those six games, King averaged 22.7 ppg, proving that he had successfully rehabilitated himself. But the Knicks were no longer interested in him, and they renounced his rights at the end of the 1986-87 campaign.
New York and the rest of the league then watched in wonder as the small forward scoring machine worked his way back up with the Washington Bullets. He averaged 17.2 ppg in his first comeback season and increased his scoring for the following three years until 1990-91, when he reached 28.4 ppg (third in the NBA behind Michael Jordan (http://www.nba.com/history/players/jordan_summary.html) and Karl Malone (http://www.nba.com/history/players/malonek_summary.html)) and returned -- up to that point as the oldest starter ever -- to an NBA All-Star Game.
Even more remarkably, King changed his playing style to accommodate the loss of explosiveness he had suffered because of his knee injury. Where most of his points had once come from posting up, flinging in bump-and-fade jumpers from the baseline and shooting from the perimeter, the "new" King was a face-up player who scored most of his points with slashing moves to the basket. He had become a complete in-the-paint player.
Not only had he reconstructed his knee and his career, but he also had rehabbed his reputation from that of a troubled Brooklyn prodigy to that of a thoughtful (if moody) superstar. He later told Inside Sports, "If I'm going to do something in life, I've always felt I had to be the best at it. That feeling drives me, gives me motivation. I knew that it would take a tremendous amount of effort to play again, but I wanted it. I didn't want to just come back, I wanted to come back as an All-Star."
Another knee operation, this time to remove cartilage, was performed before the 1991-92 season, and it eventually took its toll. He missed that campaign, then was waived by the Bullets in January of 1993. He latched on with the Nets and played 32 games before retiring after the 1992-93 season. King had scored 19,655 points for a career average of 22.5 ppg.
King later said that his biggest regrets were not winning a championship ring and, to a lesser extent, not making the 20,000-point club. "But you know what I'm going to do about that?" he thought aloud in Newsday in 1993. "At some point before the winter begins, I'm going to go in the backyard and score 350 points. So that'll bring me up to par."


VJs Squad

PG - Isiah Thomas
SG -
SF - George Gervin
PF - Bernard King
C - Alonzo Mourning

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eddie mac
06-19-2007, 03:39 PM
With their 4th pick the Fighting Irish select Elvin Hayes F Rockets/Bullets 68-84

One of the most talented power forwards ever to play the game, Elvin Hayes used his trademark turnaround jumper and aggressive defense to win a secure place in the NBA record books. Fifth on the all-time list in games (1,303) and third in minutes played (50,000), he missed only nine contests in his 16 years in the league, a tribute to his durability and conditioning. An All-Star for each of his first 12 seasons, he scored more points (27,313) than any other player in NBA history except for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan and Moses Malone.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1990); NBA champion (1978); All-NBA First Team (1975, '77, '79); All-NBA Second Team (1973, '74, '76); All-Defensive Second Team (1974, '75); All-Rookie Team (1969); 12-time All-Star (1969-80); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History ('96).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,303 .452 .670 16,279 12.5 2,398 1.8 27,313 21.0


Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
G Oscar Robertson
G
C George Mikan

-Slap-
06-19-2007, 04:15 PM
With their 4th pick the Fighting Irish select Elvin Hayes F Rockets/Bullets 68-84

One of the most talented power forwards ever to play the game, Elvin Hayes used his trademark turnaround jumper and aggressive defense to win a secure place in the NBA record books. Fifth on the all-time list in games (1,303) and third in minutes played (50,000), he missed only nine contests in his 16 years in the league, a tribute to his durability and conditioning. An All-Star for each of his first 12 seasons, he scored more points (27,313) than any other player in NBA history except for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan and Moses Malone.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1990); NBA champion (1978); All-NBA First Team (1975, '77, '79); All-NBA Second Team (1973, '74, '76); All-Defensive Second Team (1974, '75); All-Rookie Team (1969); 12-time All-Star (1969-80); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History ('96).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,303 .452 .670 16,279 12.5 2,398 1.8 27,313 21.0


Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
G Oscar Robertson
G
C George Mikan

All your picks have been outstanding value.

vancejohnson82
06-19-2007, 05:06 PM
The Fighting Irish need a pure point guard

RhymesayersDU
06-19-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm jealous of the Elvin Hayes pick. Had he slid to me, I would have taken him in about 2.5 seconds.

Master___Pain
06-19-2007, 07:00 PM
All your picks have been outstanding value.

No kidding. He's assembling quite the team

JCMElway
06-19-2007, 07:09 PM
Ludo21 is on the clock at 1 PM CST. He has until 1 AM CST to select.

AZBroncofan, Bobhorry5, and JCMElwayare on deck.

freak6
06-19-2007, 09:18 PM
All your picks have been outstanding value.

Totally agree. If we are judging guys in thier era, Mikan = Shaq. The rest are great HOF players. Gervin and Dr. J are kind of the same player, but what's wrong with that? Nice line-up right there. Elvin Hayes was at his best in San Diego.

ludo21
06-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Has Barkley been chosen, if not I want him.

If he has been, Ill take Carmelo Anthony.

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eddie mac
06-19-2007, 10:08 PM
The Fighting Irish need a pure point guard

I was under the impression that Oscar Robertson was a point guard??? Maybe I'm wrong.

azbroncfan
06-19-2007, 11:11 PM
I'll take one of the biggest waste's of talent on poor teams and a very underrated player and defender in
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Position: G
Height: 6'5" Weight: 215 lbs.
Born: June 30, 1965 in Fort Lauderdale, FL
High School: Boyd Anderson in Fort Lauderdale, FL
College: Kansas State University


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1988-89 23 GSW NBA 79 79 2717 649 1386 33 90 410 506 158 310 468 334 82 13 269 223 1741
1989-90 24 GSW NBA 78 78 2799 640 1287 34 95 406 469 98 262 360 223 98 24 201 210 1720
1990-91 25 GSW NBA 77 77 3027 703 1424 40 115 394 465 147 305 452 238 126 34 230 207 1840
1991-92 26 SAC NBA 80 80 3095 685 1465 103 268 330 406 62 257 319 411 92 34 247 231 1803
1992-93 27 SAC NBA 45 45 1728 371 782 48 130 197 233 18 136 154 221 53 9 130 137 987
1993-94 28 SAC NBA 78 78 2897 635 1428 127 312 426 511 70 216 286 313 103 17 216 211 1823
1994-95 29 SAC NBA 82 82 3172 668 1497 156 424 375 445 69 288 357 311 91 29 234 227 1867
1995-96 30 SAC NBA 81 81 2946 611 1368 225 515 425 491 54 215 269 255 125 19 220 233 1872
1996-97 31 SAC NBA 81 81 3125 717 1578 204 477 457 531 59 260 319 338 118 24 237 211 2095
1997-98 32 SAC NBA 70 70 2569 543 1220 130 334 407 471 50 179 229 279 88 15 181 154 1623
1998-99 33 WAS NBA 50 50 1912 331 803 70 221 251 293 30 142 172 122 64 10 136 121 983
1999-00 34 WAS NBA 74 69 2397 447 1049 93 241 298 340 37 176 213 185 110 13 154 191 1285
2000-01 35 WAS NBA 37 30 1216 205 504 45 133 143 160 15 94 109 111 43 7 84 86 598
2001-02 36 LAL NBA 64 2 709 100 247 18 62 42 44 14 80 94 57 18 6 40 61 260
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14 Seasons 976 902 34309 7305 16038 1326 3417 4561 5365 881 2920 3801 3398 1211 254 2579 2503 20497
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82-Game Avg 2883 614 1347 111 287 383 451 74 245 319 285 102 21 217 210 1722
Career High 82 82 3172 717 1578 225 515 457 531 158 310 468 411 126 34 269 233 2095
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Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
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1988-89 23 GSW NBA 79 34.4 8.2 17.5 0.4 1.1 5.2 6.4 2.0 3.9 5.9 4.2 1.0 0.2 3.4 2.8 22.0
1989-90 24 GSW NBA 78 35.9 8.2 16.5 0.4 1.2 5.2 6.0 1.3 3.4 4.6 2.9 1.3 0.3 2.6 2.7 22.1
1990-91 25 GSW NBA 77 39.3 9.1 18.5 0.5 1.5 5.1 6.0 1.9 4.0 5.9 3.1 1.6 0.4 3.0 2.7 23.9
1991-92 26 SAC NBA 80 38.7 8.6 18.3 1.3 3.4 4.1 5.1 0.8 3.2 4.0 5.1 1.2 0.4 3.1 2.9 22.5
1992-93 27 SAC NBA 45 38.4 8.2 17.4 1.1 2.9 4.4 5.2 0.4 3.0 3.4 4.9 1.2 0.2 2.9 3.0 21.9
1993-94 28 SAC NBA 78 37.1 8.1 18.3 1.6 4.0 5.5 6.6 0.9 2.8 3.7 4.0 1.3 0.2 2.8 2.7 23.4
1994-95 29 SAC NBA 82 38.7 8.1 18.3 1.9 5.2 4.6 5.4 0.8 3.5 4.4 3.8 1.1 0.4 2.9 2.8 22.8
1995-96 30 SAC NBA 81 36.4 7.5 16.9 2.8 6.4 5.2 6.1 0.7 2.7 3.3 3.1 1.5 0.2 2.7 2.9 23.1
1996-97 31 SAC NBA 81 38.6 8.9 19.5 2.5 5.9 5.6 6.6 0.7 3.2 3.9 4.2 1.5 0.3 2.9 2.6 25.9
1997-98 32 SAC NBA 70 36.7 7.8 17.4 1.9 4.8 5.8 6.7 0.7 2.6 3.3 4.0 1.3 0.2 2.6 2.2 23.2
1998-99 33 WAS NBA 50 38.2 6.6 16.1 1.4 4.4 5.0 5.9 0.6 2.8 3.4 2.4 1.3 0.2 2.7 2.4 19.7
1999-00 34 WAS NBA 74 32.4 6.0 14.2 1.3 3.3 4.0 4.6 0.5 2.4 2.9 2.5 1.5 0.2 2.1 2.6 17.4
2000-01 35 WAS NBA 37 32.9 5.5 13.6 1.2 3.6 3.9 4.3 0.4 2.5 2.9 3.0 1.2 0.2 2.3 2.3 16.2
2001-02 36 LAL NBA 64 11.1 1.6 3.9 0.3 1.0 0.7 0.7 0.2 1.3 1.5 0.9 0.3 0.1 0.6 1.0 4.1
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Gives me the much needed SG and 3 pt shooter that I needed that can also take it to the rack.

Basketball info ministers

PF Karl Malone
SF ???
C David Robinson
PG Gary Payton
SG Mitch Richmond

Master___Pain
06-19-2007, 11:44 PM
Basketball info ministers

PF Karl Malone
SF ???
C David Robinson
PG Gary Payton
SG Mitch Richmond

Nice pick. I think you should rename your team to the mid 90s Western Conference All star team.

Clockwork Orange
06-19-2007, 11:48 PM
Run TMC was fun to watch.

http://www.nba.com/media/warriors/runtmc_275x229.jpg

Master___Pain
06-19-2007, 11:52 PM
Run TMC was fun to watch.

http://www.nba.com/media/warriors/runtmc_275x229.jpg

Someone needed a PG?

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 12:36 AM
BobHorry5 is on the clock. He has until 10 AM CST to make his selection.

BobHorry5
06-20-2007, 12:41 AM
i think since i have "big Mo" i should go ahead and take "little Mo" the man who got him the ball all thoswe years...
Maurice Cheeks pg
During his rookie year of 1978-79, Cheeks averaged almost 30 minutes of playing time, with 8.4 points and 5.3 assists per game. In his second season in the NBA, he increased his averages to 11.4 points and 7 assists per game. The 76ers made it to the NBA finals in 1980 but were defeated by the Los Angeles Lakers (http://www.answers.com/topic/los-angeles-lakers), losing the series 4-2. Although his points-per-game average dropped slightly to 9.4 during 1980-81, Cheeks maintained nearly seven assists per game, increased his steals, and decreased his turnovers (http://www.answers.com/topic/turnovers-1). In the 1981-82 season, Cheeks had a career-high 209 steals, and the 76ers returned to the NBA finals, but once again fell to the Lakers in the series final, 4-2.
By the 1982-83 season, with the help of legendary players Julius "Dr. J" Irving and Moses Malone (http://www.answers.com/topic/moses-malone), the 76ers were nearly unstoppable (http://www.answers.com/topic/unstoppable). Cheeks became known as "Little Mo" to parallel Malone's title of "Big Mo." They won 50 of their first 57 games, finished the season with a league-best 65-17 record, and went on to win the 1983 NBA championship, this time sweeping the Lakers in four games. That year Cheeks earned his first of four trips to the NBA All-Star Game.
Throughout the 1980s, Cheeks was a solid performer for the 76ers. During the 1985-86 season he averaged 15.4 points and a career-high 9.2 assists per game and had 207 steals. The following year, he posted a career-best 15.6 points per game, with 7.9 assists per game and 180 steals. He played in almost all the 76ers' games, averaging over 38 minutes per game from 1985 to 1988. During the 1988-89 season Cheeks appeared in a career-low 71 games and averaged 11.6 points per game, his lowest since the 1981-82 season. He continued to average nearly eight assists per game.

azbroncfan
06-20-2007, 12:48 AM
Nice pick. I think you should rename your team to the mid 90s Western Conference All star team.

No SH!%! Didn't even think of that but when I started watching hoops was in late 80's and some of the older guys I have targeted have been gone right before me.

Now that I think of it I'll bet there was an all star game with those 4 plus someone else as the SF.

Master___Pain
06-20-2007, 01:04 AM
No SH!%! Didn't even think of that but when I started watching hoops was in late 80's and some of the older guys I have targeted have been gone right before me.

Now that I think of it I'll bet there was an all star game with those 4 plus someone else as the SF.

1996 w/ Sean Elliot at SF

Jens1893
06-20-2007, 01:08 AM
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RhymesayersDU
06-20-2007, 01:21 AM
It's been a lot of fun doing research and stuff on these guys. At least for me, I've learned a LOT I didn't know about older generations. And since I'm not in school yet this summer, I've got some extra free time on my hands.

Also, I have a new appreciation for the old school section they have in SLAM now. This month is Bob Pettit.

Master___Pain
06-20-2007, 01:22 AM
Jens, you are killing me bro.

azbroncfan
06-20-2007, 01:34 AM
1996 w/ Sean Elliot at SF

There are probably 4-5 games they were on together but I was wondering if they ever were all starters at once?

ludo21
06-20-2007, 02:40 AM
Melo is a sick pure scorer, and thats what I needed at the Forward spot.

PG - Nash
SG - Frazier
SF - Melo
PF -
C - Amare

epicSocialism4tw
06-20-2007, 03:17 AM
Ludo is going modern-era.

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2007, 05:02 AM
Round 1
1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. BobHorry5 -- Moses Malone
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- Elgin Baylor

Round 2
1. Inkana7 -- Patrick Ewing
2. Eddie Mac -- Julius Erving
3.VJ82 -- George Gervin
4. Ludo -- Walt Frazier
5.AZbroncofan -- David Robinson
6. BobHorry5 -- John Havlicek
7. JCMElway --John Stockton
8. Angry Llama --Bob Cousy
9.Phibacka --James Worthy
10.Freak6 --Kobe Bryant
11. Rhymes --Clyde Drexler
12. Clockwork --Charles Barkley
13. Slap --Rick Barry
14. Master Pain --Reggie Miller
15. GSReylea --Pete Maravich
16. KillerIcon –Nate Thurmond

Round 3
1. Killericon --Jason Kidd
2. GSReylea --Nate Archibald
3. Master__Pain -- Dominique Wilkins
4. -Slap- - Kevin McHale
5. Clockwork –Alex English
6. Rhymesayers DU – LeBron James
7. Freak6 – Allen Iverson
8. Phibacka –D Wade
9. Angryllama – Dirk Novitsky
10. JCMElway –Bob Pettit
11. BobHorry5 –Ray Allen
12. AZBroncfan – Gary Payton
13. Ludo21 – Amere Stoudemire
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Alonzo Mourning
15. Eddie Mac -- George Mikan
16. Inkana7 -- Phil Jackson (Coach)

Round 4
1. Inkana7 --Lenny Wilkins
2. Eddie Mac --Elvin Hayes
3. Vancejohnson82--Bernard King
4. Ludo--Carmelo Anthony
5. azbroncfan-Mitch Richmond
6. BobHorry5--
7. JCMElway--
8. angryllama--
9. Phibacka--
10. freak6--
11. Rhymes--
12. Clockwork--
13. Slap--
14. Master Pain--
15. GSReylea--
16. killericon--

vancejohnson82
06-20-2007, 10:08 AM
If you think 6-5 Oscar Robertson is going to be able to guard some of the elite smaller guards I think you might be mistaken

but then again i dont ever think of the Big O as a defensive stopper, probably my bad

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 12:48 PM
OK, I usually go old school in my picks, but this guy's ability to put the biscuit in the basket is too great too ignore. If you project his stats out over a whole career the hall of fame is a given.

Those Cheap Bastards select:

Gilbert Arenas, SG/PG, Washington Wizards

Over his six year career:

42% FG shooting
36% 3 pt shooting
81 % FT
6 assits per game
3 turnovers per game
2 steals per game
23 pts per game, with an average of 27.8 PPG in the past three years.

* 3-time NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006, 2007
* 3-time All-NBA:

* Second Team: 2007
* Third Team: 2005, 2006

* NBA Most Improved Player Award: 2003
* 2003 All-Star Rookie/Sophomore Game MVP: 2003
* NBA All-Rookie First Team: 2002
* NBA regular-season leader, minutes played: 2006 (3,384)
* Holds Washington Wizards franchise record for most three-point field goals made, all-time with 734 (as of the 2006-07 NBA season).
* NBA Player of the Month for the month of December 2006. Averaged a league-high 34.1 points per game during December.
* NBA 3 time Player of the Week 06-07 season.
* Holds Washington Wizards franchise record for most points in a game (60 against the Los Angeles Lakers).
Career records

* Career high scoring 60 points on December 17, 2006 vs. the Los Angeles Lakers (breaking Earl Monroe's franchise record of 56 on February 13, 1968).
* Career 50+ point games (regular season): 3
* Career 40+ point games (regular season): 26 (25 with Washington)
* Career triple-doubles (regular season): 3
* Career 40+ point games (Playoffs): 1

NBA records

* Most points (46) in 30 or fewer full minutes of playing time, since the implementation of the 24 second shot clock. Set on February 25, 2006 vs. the New York Knicks.[29]
* Most points (16) in one overtime period. Set on December 17, 2006 against the Los Angeles Lake

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 12:50 PM
And here is:

BTW, does someone know how to increase the size of my picture of arenas? Thanks.

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 12:54 PM
Angryllama is on the clock at 11 am CST. He has until 11 PM Wedneday to select.

Phibacka, freak6, and Rhymesayer are on deck.

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 12:59 PM
Remember folks, you can check page one of this thread for the draft picks and an alphabetical listing of who's been selected.

Alpha listing to be updated tongiht......

epicSocialism4tw
06-20-2007, 05:58 PM
This guy has everything but a winning pedigree, and had he had that I would have taken him in the last round. Garnett's lack is where my other guys have their strengths, so he can hang on the coattails of Russell and Cousy.

"The Big Ticket" Kevin Garnett is a versatile defensive force augmented with a scrappy and varied offensive game. He has a nice jump shot, is aggressive with put-backs, and can score on on the block. With this selection, I think its safe to say that no one will outrebound or defend the post like the Biochem Nerd Parade.

K E V I N G A R N E T T
http://jocktalk.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/garnett_254_040204.jpg

NBA Most Valuable Player: 2004
NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2003
10-time NBA All-Star: 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
8-time All-NBA:
First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004
Second Team: 2001, 2002, 2005
Third Team: 1999, 2007
8-time All-Defensive:
First Team: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
Second Team: 2006, 2007
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1996
2-time NBA regular-season leader, PER (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating): 2004 (29.4), 2005 (28.2)
4-time NBA regular-season leader, rebounds per game: 2004 (13.9), 2005 (13.5), 2006 (12.7), 2007 (12.8)
2-time NBA regular-season leader, rebounds: 2004 (1,139), 2005 (1,108)
5-time NBA regular-season leader, defensive rebounds: 2003 (858), 2004 (894), 2005 (861), 2006 (752), 2007 (792)
NBA regular-season leader, points: 2004 (1,987)
NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 2004 (804)
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award: 2006
Career triple-doubles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-double) (regular season): 16 (as of Mar. 4, 2007)[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Garnett#_note-9)
Career triple-doubles (postseason): 3 (as of 2006)
First player in NBA history to:
average at least 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 5 assists per game for 6 consecutive seasons. (1999-2005)
reach at least 18,000 points, 10,000 rebounds, 4,000 assists, 1,200 steals, and 1,500 blocks in his playing career.

Biochem Nerd Parade:
PG - Bob Cousy
SG -
SF - Dirk Nowitzki
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Bill Russell

Master___Pain
06-20-2007, 06:18 PM
Dammit. I was hoping KG would continue to slide. llama has a pretty good interior D going with KG and Russell. Couple of great shot blockers. Sorry for getting on your case Jens, I just did not want someone that was asleep at the wheel getting a good pick *cough*Ludo*cough* (Amare over KG?!) Anyway, great pick llama, that's some of the best value in this entire draft.

freak6
06-20-2007, 06:25 PM
I was about to PM for K.G.

Guy is the rodney dangerfield of the modern athlete.

Master___Pain
06-20-2007, 06:31 PM
I was about to PM for K.G.

Guy is the rodney dangerfield of the modern athlete.

I'm still not sure why Llama drafted someone to start ahead of Dirk though....

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Phibacka is on the clock at 3 PM CST. He has until 3 AM CST to make his selection.

Freak6, Rhymesayers, and Clockwork are on deck.

azbroncfan
06-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Garnett's lack is where my other guys have their strengths OTHER THAN DIRK, so he can hang on the coattails of Russell and Cousy.



PG - Bob Cousy
SG -
SF - Dirk Nowitzki
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Bill Russell


Fixed it for you.

phibacka31
06-20-2007, 08:25 PM
Well I was about to pick KG, but Ill go with : DAVE BING http://supahz.250x.com/basketball/bing.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-20-2007, 08:35 PM
Dammit. I was hoping KG would continue to slide. llama has a pretty good interior D going with KG and Russell. Couple of great shot blockers. Sorry for getting on your case Jens, I just did not want someone that was asleep at the wheel getting a good pick *cough*Ludo*cough* (Amare over KG?!) Anyway, great pick llama, that's some of the best value in this entire draft.

There were a few guys I was looking at there, and I was really expecting one of the younger guys to key in on KG before I could take him. I thought about taking him over Dirk, but Dirk is the superior offensive player and a better clutch performer, and I had Russell manning the interior who is perhaps the top defensive player in NBA history. Dirk and KG are two sides of the same coin. It's funny that they have played in the same era. I'm very happy to have them both on my team representing their respective roles in a dynamic change in the forward position within their era and NBA history.

JCMElway
06-20-2007, 08:41 PM
Nice pick Phibacka. I had my choice narrowed down to Gilbert or Bing.

Freak6 is on the clock at 6 PM CST. He has 12 hours to select.

Rhymesayer, Clockwork, and Slap are on deck.

phibacka31
06-20-2007, 08:46 PM
TY JCM I ALSO LOVE Agent 0:approve:

freak6
06-20-2007, 08:47 PM
I am so torn here. I need a C. JCM,

Hold off on my PM!!! I am considering another guy.

RhymesayersDU
06-20-2007, 08:47 PM
Dammit. I was hoping KG would continue to slide. llama has a pretty good interior D going with KG and Russell. Couple of great shot blockers. Sorry for getting on your case Jens, I just did not want someone that was asleep at the wheel getting a good pick *cough*Ludo*cough* (Amare over KG?!) Anyway, great pick llama, that's some of the best value in this entire draft.

He was my pick, he wouldn't have slid past me. Sad panda.

phibacka31
06-20-2007, 08:49 PM
PHibacka's Team:
PG: Dave Bing
SG: DWADE
SF:
PF: James Worthy
C: Tim Duncan
!Booya!
NOT BAD