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JCMElway
07-18-2007, 08:52 AM
OK, Llama's time is up. My selection is:

Greg Popovich, Coach, Spurs

Daly was goig to be my choice until he got nabbed. In my mind there just isn't a better lock-down defensive type coach available. Also, three championships in seven years puts Pop in the conversation with Riley. He hasn't won 6 in eight years, or three in a row like Auerbach or Jackson, but I think Popovich would obtain similar results if he had Jordan or those Celtic teams.

Besides, I think Pop probably has a few more championships coming in the next few years.

JCMElway
07-18-2007, 08:53 AM
BobHorry5 is on the clock until 7 pM CST.

Angryllama may select at any time.

GSRelyea
07-18-2007, 09:01 AM
This all coming from a guy that has AI & Kobe in his backcourt??? My thought process on this draft was to draft the best TEAM, not as many superstars you can fit on one roster. Every team needs role players, which has been proved time and time again ie- our recent olympic squads........ As JCMElway said each team will get ripped apart in discussion once this draft is over, will be interesting. (by the way Bill Laimbeer is on the top 50 all time list)

So Bill Laimbeer is one of the top 128 players of all time?

Ok. For a guy whose best years were behind him when he turned into a thug hockey enforcer for the Pistons.

Would the Pistons have still won those 2 championships without Bill Laimbeer? Probably. How much better did he really make them? Even in his prime, they couldn't get past the 6ers or Celtics.

As far as Hornacek, he was solid and a good shooter, but there are about 12 guards drafted after him, Kerr, and the Microwave that are better.

To each his own. This is just for fun, and if guys wanna take dudes they cheered for, so be it. :thumbs:

Personally, I'd put my bench up against most of these teams starters with confidence!

azbroncfan
07-18-2007, 11:40 AM
This all coming from a guy that has AI & Kobe in his backcourt??? My thought process on this draft was to draft the best TEAM, not as many superstars you can fit on one roster. Every team needs role players, which has been proved time and time again ie- our recent olympic squads........ As JCMElway said each team will get ripped apart in discussion once this draft is over, will be interesting. (by the way Bill Laimbeer is on the top 50 all time list)

That is my thought process. Fitting guys like Kobe and AI together just wouldn't mesh due to the fact that they are both ball hogs.

Master___Pain
07-18-2007, 11:53 AM
So Bill Laimbeer is one of the top 128 players of all time?

Ok. For a guy whose best years were behind him when he turned into a thug hockey enforcer for the Pistons.

Would the Pistons have still won those 2 championships without Bill Laimbeer? Probably. How much better did he really make them? Even in his prime, they couldn't get past the 6ers or Celtics.

As far as Hornacek, he was solid and a good shooter, but there are about 12 guards drafted after him, Kerr, and the Microwave that are better.

To each his own. This is just for fun, and if guys wanna take dudes they cheered for, so be it. :thumbs:

Personally, I'd put my bench up against most of these teams starters with confidence!

Sometimes it's best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

freak6
07-18-2007, 01:03 PM
OK, Llama's time is up. My selection is:

Greg Popovich, Coach, Spurs

Daly was goig to be my choice until he got nabbed. In my mind there just isn't a better lock-down defensive type coach available. Also, three championships in seven years puts Pop in the conversation with Riley. He hasn't won 6 in eight years, or three in a row like Auerbach or Jackson, but I think Popovich would obtain similar results if he had Jordan or those Celtic teams.

Besides, I think Pop probably has a few more championships coming in the next few years.


Nice pick.

freak6
07-18-2007, 01:12 PM
This all coming from a guy that has AI & Kobe in his backcourt???

As JCMElway said each team will get ripped apart in discussion once this draft is over, will be interesting. (by the way Bill Laimbeer is on the top 50 all time list)

lmfao!!

Laimbeer is barely a top ten PISTON All-time!!!

http://www.nba.com/pistons/history/alltime100_50-1.html

Did whoever told you Laimbeer is on the top 50 All-time list throw in some time shares in Siberia?

That statement speaks volumes on it's own.

My thought process is put the best players on the court. Laimbeer is a weakness to be exploited, everytime he is on the court. One dimensional guys like Kerr...

Master - what was wrong about anything I said.

I truly would feel confident putting my bench against some of these starting teams.

Yao - C
Brand - PF
Nba Finals MVP - PG
Paul Pierce - SG

btw- Do any of you really think A.I. would have a problem running with Kobe, A.I. as you all saw, puts winning above anything. He took a ton of shots in Philly because he was all they had. He carried that team to the NBA Finals, and was MOST VALUABE PLAYER.

With the talent I've assembled A.I. will be unstoppable because if you double him he's kicking to Bird for 3, Kobe slashing or pulling up, and don't even get started on McAdoo, the last NBA player to Average 30 ppg, and 15 rpg!!!

GSRelyea
07-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Same thought process of our last 4 olympic teams, throw the best players out there... doesn't seem to work.
lmfao!!

Laimbeer is barely a top ten PISTON All-time!!!

http://www.nba.com/pistons/history/alltime100_50-1.html

Did whoever told you Laimbeer is on the top 50 All-time list throw in some time shares in Siberia?

That statement speaks volumes on it's own.

My thought process is put the best players on the court. Laimbeer is a weakness to be exploited, everytime he is on the court. One dimensional guys like Kerr...

Master - what was wrong about anything I said.

I truly would feel confident putting my bench against some of these starting teams.

Yao - C
Brand - PF
Nba Finals MVP - PG
Paul Pierce - SG

btw- Do any of you really think A.I. would have a problem running with Kobe, A.I. as you all saw, puts winning above anything. He took a ton of shots in Philly because he was all they had. He carried that team to the NBA Finals, and was MOST VALUABE PLAYER.

With the talent I've assembled A.I. will be unstoppable because if you double him he's kicking to Bird for 3, Kobe slashing or pulling up, and don't even get started on McAdoo, the last NBA player to Average 30 ppg, and 15 rpg!!!

vancejohnson82
07-18-2007, 04:28 PM
your bench is weak

Yao - shies away at any kind of contact/pressure
Brand - likes to put up 20-10 numbers in games his team loses
Paul Pierce - I actually like Pierce but what has he won??
NBA Finals MVP - product of a great team (a lot of guys could have pulled this off, including youngins' like TJ FORD or Deron Williams)

get off your own team's sack a little bit

epicSocialism4tw
07-18-2007, 05:22 PM
I'm going with Chris Webber, PF Sacramento Kings.

Biochemnerd Parade
Coach: Red Auerbach
PG - Cousy
SG - Aguirre
SF - Nowitzki
PF - Garnett
C - Russell

Bench:
Willis Reed, C
Bill Sharman, SG
Chris Webber, PF

Master___Pain
07-18-2007, 05:41 PM
I'm going with Chris Webber, PF Sacramento Kings.

Biochemnerd Parade
Coach: Red Auerbach
PG - Cousy
SG - Aguirre
SF - Nowitzki
PF - Garnett
C - Russell

Bench:
Willis Reed, C
Bill Sharman, SG
Chris Webber, PF

Llama...he's already been picked bro. A couple of Rounds ago I believe by azbroncofan

epicSocialism4tw
07-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Llama...he's already been picked bro. A couple of Rounds ago I believe by azbroncofan

Cripes. I cant see who that guy picked. I'll give it another shot. ;D

Master___Pain
07-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Master - what was wrong about anything I said.

Does it matter? You are already belittling everyone over their picks and even if the most complete point by point (re: Laimbeer/Hornicek) argument was laid out before you, you'd dismiss it without thought. It's what you do. If something does not fall within your opinion/what you believe, you do not listen. That's fine, it's your "thing".

Anyway, back to the draft. Don't want this fun thread veering of course.

freak6
07-18-2007, 06:54 PM
your bench is weak

Yao - shies away at any kind of contact/pressure
Brand - likes to put up 20-10 numbers in games his team loses
Paul Pierce - I actually like Pierce but what has he won??
NBA Finals MVP - product of a great team (a lot of guys could have pulled this off, including youngins' like TJ FORD or Deron Williams)

get off your own team's sack a little bit

You can't make statement like that about Yao, he doesn't shy away from 'any kind of contact', but you can't expect him to be Shaq. He's one of the best 7 footers in NBA history already, top 15 at least.

Brand and the Clippers did beat the Nuggets in the Playoffs last year...Right? But then again, he is a loser right? But I guess because he plays in the West he's garbage right, behind Duncan, K.G., Dirk, and the other PFs...

Pierce sucks also because he hasn't won anything...errr...

And last but not least TJ Ford = Chauncy Billups..........

LOL

I digress, my team is bunch of selfish gunners that don't win games, MVPS, let alone championships...

freak6
07-18-2007, 06:57 PM
Does it matter? You are already belittling everyone over their picks and even if the most complete point by point (re: Laimbeer/Hornicek) argument was laid out before you, you'd dismiss it without thought.

Like how Laimbeer is one of the top 50 NBA players of all time...LMFAO!!!!
Picking that goon that early is indefensible. Him, Horny, and Kerr are the only picks I have said anything about. But then again, I guess I am "belittling EVERYONE"...lol

JCMElway
07-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Like how Laimbeer is one of the top 50 NBA players of all time...LMFAO!!!!
Picking that goon that early is indefensible. Him, Horny, and Kerr are the only picks I have said anything about. But then again, I guess I am "belittling EVERYONE"...lol

I would not have selected Laimbeer as early as he went, but I certainly would put a higher value on him than you do Freak. Along with the other things he did well Laimbeer brought toughness and nastiness to the Pistons that helped them define ther style of play.

Would they have won their championships without him? No, I don't think they would have. Maybe one, but not two.

RhymesayersDU
07-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Sometimes it's best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

Confucius say: He who laugh last, not get joke.

Master___Pain
07-18-2007, 08:31 PM
Confucius say: He who laugh last, not get joke.

LOL Heh, heh......I don't get it.

BobHorry5
07-18-2007, 11:51 PM
ok calm down now boys...
laimbeer maybe a little early but a good role player
but come on tj ford or deron williams as good as tony?
i am in austin and watched tj gr8 speed but makes bad court decisions and lacks a jump shot and deron does have a future but lets not make him john stockton..
tony led the team in scoring more than any non duncan player on the spurs and has taken every current nba point guard up and down the court check any head to head stats oh yeah and hes only what 22 / 23 yrs old
and tru there were better picks maybe than kerr but he filled a need on a Team there is only 1 ball on the court

BobHorry5
07-18-2007, 11:56 PM
i will now pick and take a another banger of my own Charles Oakley
pf and team spokesperson
"If it ain't broke, don't break it." [1] (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_10_225/ai_71558129)
"They're like contracts. Everybody's got one. Some are just bigger than others." - Oakley on the entourages of NBA players. [2] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"If you have a horse that isn't winning any races, sooner or later you have to get a new jockey." - Oakley, on Chicago Bull's coach Tim Floyd. [3] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"I'm cool with whatever. I'll just keep eating my bread, sipping my soup and serving my time. But the chicken is going to lay some more eggs one day." - Oakley as a veteran, on being benched in favor of teenagers. [4] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"It was like the police trying to stop a shootout: You gotta have your gun out. Don't go out there with your hands down." - -Oakley, on Knick's coach Jeff Van Gundy getting headbutted while trying to stop Marcus Camby from suckerpunching Danny Ferry. [5] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"Oh well, that's basketball. It used to be basketball. I don't know what it is now." - -Oakley, on the flagrant foul he was assessed for flattening the Nets' Kenyon Martin. [6] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"You got to know when enough's enough. You want to rob the bank, but you better not be complainin' when you get caught. In my day, a guy who jumps that high with that many tatoos, he would've wound up sitting on the floor at least once. It's just the kind of player (Martin) is. And the kind of guy I am." - Oakley, on Kenyon Martin and his flagrant foul reputation. [7] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)
"He's a lawyer, not a GM. You can't spend $250 million on contracts and not make the playoffs. Vince Carter's mom runs that team. She's the GM." - Oakley on Toronto GM Glen Grunwald. [8] (http://kshen.tripod.com/quote/index.html)

azbroncfan
07-19-2007, 12:14 AM
I'm taking one of the best players no body knows about and that gives me two of them in Sidney Moncrief and Mitch Richmond.

http://www.hognation.net/magpics/022282large.jpg

Moncrief's NBA career started with the Milwaukee Bucks in 1979 when he was drafted 5th overall. Moncrief spent the next 10 seasons with the Bucks. After sitting out of the NBA for one year, Moncrief ended his career with one season with the Atlanta Hawks before calling it quits for good.

Moncrief was known for his versatility on the court, particularly given his 6' 4" stature, but was most known for his tenacious defensive play. Moncrief was named the NBA Defensive Player of the Year for the 1982-83 and 1983-84 seasons. He also made the All-Star team 4 times and was named to the All-NBA first team for the 1982-83 season. Moncrief averaged over 20 points a game 4 seasons in his career and finished his 11 year NBA career with an average of 15.6 points per game. For his accomplishments with the Bucks, his #4 jersey was retired.

Among Moncrief's admirers was Michael Jordan who once described his on court intensity to an L.A. Times reporter: "When you play against Moncrief, you're in for a night of all-around basketball. He'll hound you everywhere you go, both ends of the court. You just expect it."[1]

In 2006, Moncrief returned to basketball as the head coach of the Fort Worth Flyers, a professional basketball team in the NBA D-League

2 time defensive player of the year. Gives me a one of the best Defensive backcourts out there teamed with The Glove.

LUDO is on the clock pick was made at 830 PST.

Master___Pain
07-19-2007, 12:28 AM
Nice pick az. He was on my radar. Great late round value right there.

JCMElway
07-19-2007, 12:51 AM
Nice picks with Oakley and Moncrief.

Ludo 21 is on the clock until noon CST on Thursday.

Angryllama may still make a selection at any time.

epicSocialism4tw
07-19-2007, 01:45 AM
I'm going with another Maverick great:

Rolando Blackmon, G

freak6
07-19-2007, 01:47 AM
Ludo PM'd me his pick.

He selects Marcus Stevenson.
http://www.kcmo.org/parks/athletics/Basketball_boy.jpg
A 1st team all city PG for the Madison City YMCA Cougars - Marcus enjoys coloring, Playstation, and watching Spongbob.

Marcus shot 52% from the field and averaged a triple double leading his team to the YMCA title over the Caribou from nearby Hershaelville.

Some of his famous quotes include
- "It was like I hit the circle button huh coach!"

- "I learned that move from my older brother, he has stinky armpits"

- "When do we get the orange slices"

Rshackleford
07-19-2007, 03:24 AM
dammit, with Oakley went my next pick!

JCMElway
07-19-2007, 08:58 AM
Ludo PM'd me his pick.

He selects Marcus Stevenson.
http://www.kcmo.org/parks/athletics/Basketball_boy.jpg
A 1st team all city PG for the Madison City YMCA Cougars - Marcus enjoys coloring, Playstation, and watching Spongbob.

Marcus shot 52% from the field and averaged a triple double leading his team to the YMCA title over the Caribou from nearby Hershaelville.

Some of his famous quotes include
- "It was like I hit the circle button huh coach!"

- "I learned that move from my older brother, he has stinky armpits"

- "When do we get the orange slices"


That's just wrong......

BTW, I know that Bobhorry5 was considering taking that guy late, just to make a point. You stole his thunder Freak!

vancejohnson82
07-19-2007, 12:28 PM
freak, i will take back one thing i said

i thought you were talking about Tony Parker (not Billups)....and i would put TJ on the court with that Spurs team and he would have shined just as well....Billups is on another level right now, so my bad

Yao is a chump... top 15 7 footers of all time, maybe, because there haven't been that many 7 footers that could actually play in this league....probably 10-12 that you could say were "great"....the rest were "good" or just plain jokes.....Yao disappears for stretches of games

your team isn't bad but compiling scoring machines isn't the point of this exercise...or at least i didn't think so....so trashing everyone else's picks is useless unless you are willing to take some heat yourself

freak6
07-19-2007, 01:25 PM
Yao is a chump... top 15 7 footers of all time, because there haven't been that many 7 footers that could actually play in this league........the rest were "good" or just plain jokes.....Yao disappears for stretches of games

trashing everyone else's picks is useless unless you are willing to take some heat yourself

Yao has gotten better every season. Last season he avg 25 ppg and started in the All-Star game. 3rd team All NBA in 06, last year 2nd team behind Amare, talk about soft on D. If would have been healthy he's first team no doubt. At 7-6 he is huge, hit's his free throws, has great touch. I don't understand the hate. I'll give you he doesn't take over games and isn't as aggressive as we'd all like to see him be, but he's a foriegn guy who didn't grow up banging 3 guys, getting hacked to score in a game of 21.

And, he's just my backup C, my starter is a Hall of Famer!

Again, I'm not "trashing EVERYONE'S" picks, just a few like that goon Laimbeer. My team has a ton of scorers yeah, but MVPS also. "Bird for 3!!!"

Ludo - I aint mad atcha dog!!! lmao, you gotta admit, that post was funny!

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1650562&postcount=525

Master___Pain
07-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Hey all, we need to get this thing moving a little quicker than we have the last few rounds. Come on, step it up!!:strong:

Killericon
07-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Yeah, let's leave the commentary on other people's picks out until after the draft is over.

epicSocialism4tw
07-19-2007, 11:18 PM
Yeah, let's leave the commentary on other people's picks out until after the draft is over.

Commentary should be what this thread is about.

Master___Pain
07-19-2007, 11:43 PM
Commentary should be what this thread is about.

Yes and no. Thing thing is coming to a grinding hault these last few rounds. At this pace we won't finish before August. More draft picking.....less unneeded comments.

So who's up? Make a pick would ya?:thumbsup:

epicSocialism4tw
07-20-2007, 12:01 AM
Yes and no. Thing thing is coming to a grinding hault these last few rounds. At this pace we won't finish before August. More draft picking.....less unneeded comments.

So who's up? Make a pick would ya?:thumbsup:

Personally, I have missed most of the comments because I have that guy on ignore.

But I think that we could have some really fun discussion about these players and what they bring to the table historically.

Master___Pain
07-20-2007, 12:27 AM
But I think that we could have some really fun discussion about these players and what they bring to the table historically.


I agree, I'd just like to see it happen once we've completed this thing. That's going to be a great thread:thumbsup:

In the meantime I'd love to get this thing wrapped up. By the time we're finished I'll be married and be on my honeymoon and won't get to bag on anyone's team ;D

JCMElway
07-20-2007, 12:33 AM
VJ82 is on the clock until 10 AM CST on Friday. Eddie Mac may select after 10 AM, or after VJ82's selection, whichever comes first.

Ludo21 may make a selection at any time.

azbroncfan
07-20-2007, 01:00 AM
Personally, I have missed most of the comments because I have that guy on ignore.

But I think that we could have some really fun discussion about these players and what they bring to the table historically.


You have everyone on ignore because you are a yellow puke that can't take the heat after all the sh!t you talked after the mavs loss. Then you post a user note but don't have the balls to stand up to the garbage you talk you fairweather broncos fan. Go back to rooting for dallas you puke.

JCMElway
07-20-2007, 01:13 AM
**singing**

What the world needs now, is love, sweet love.......

ludo21
07-20-2007, 12:36 PM
haha, uh no way JCM!

Ill take Tom Chambers, if he hasnt been chosen.

If he has, then Ill take Paul Westphal.

Master___Pain
07-20-2007, 02:18 PM
haha, uh no way JCM!

Ill take Tom Chambers, if he hasnt been chosen.

If he has, then Ill take Paul Westphal.

You'll get Westphal and like it!!!

(I took Chambers a few rounds ago:thumbs: )

vancejohnson82
07-20-2007, 07:06 PM
ok, i'm going with

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aafq015.jpg


BOBBY JONES
Number 24 - Retired on November 7, 1986
One of the greatest defenders in NBA history, Bobby Jones played eight of his 10 NBA seasons for the 76ers. He was named to the NBA's All-Defensive first team eight consecutive seasons from 1977-84 and was a second team selection in 1985. In 1983, he captured the NBA Sixth Man Award and helped lead the Sixers to the NBA championship. Jones played in the NBA All-Star Game on four occasions, twice as a member of the Denver Nuggets (1977 and 1978) and twice as a member of the Sixers (1981 and 1982). Jones, who was a first round draft choice (15th overall) of the Houston Rockets in the 1974 NBA Draft, began his professional career as a member of the ABA's Denver Nuggets. He was a member of the ABA All-Rookie team in 1985, an ABA All-Star in 1976 and a member of the ABA's All-Defensive Team in both 1975 and 1976. As a 76er, he totaled 6,585 points and 2,942 rebounds. He currently ranks third on the 76ers' all-time blocked shots list and owns the fourth best career field goal percentage in franchise history.

vancejohnson82
07-20-2007, 07:09 PM
ok, just saw that jones was taken and I need a scorer so....

http://www.nba.com/media/sixers/world_200_player.jpg



World B. Free (born Lloyd B. Free on December 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_9), 1953 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953) in Savannah, Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah%2C_Georgia)) is an American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) former professional basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball) player who played in the NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association) from 1975-1988. Free was known as the "Prince of Midair" as well as "All-World".
Free attended Canarsie High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canarsie_High_School&action=edit) in Brooklyn, New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn%2C_New_York) before attending Guilford College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilford_College) in North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina). As a freshman he led Guilford's basketball team and helped the team win the NAIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAIA) National Championship and was named MVP of the NAIA Tournament.
He played for the San Diego Clippers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Clippers), Philadelphia 76ers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_76ers), Golden State Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors), Cleveland Cavaliers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Cavaliers) and Houston Rockets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Rockets) in the National Basketball Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association). He got his name from his days in Brooklyn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn), where a friend nicknamed him "World" because of his 44-inch vertical leaps and 360-degree dunks. He was known for taking high-risk shots and playing flamboyantly.
For both the 1978-79 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978-79_NBA_season) and 1979-80 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979-80_NBA_season) campaigns, George Gervin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gervin) and Free were number 1 and 2 in the league in scoring. Free averaged 20.3 points per game over 13 seasons in the NBA. His best season was 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979-80_NBA_season) with the Clippers, averaging 30.2 points per game, second-most in the league, as well as 4.2 assists per game and 3.5 rebounds per game in 68 games. He was an All-Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game) that season as well in 1980.
Free also played in the United States Basketball League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Basketball_League) (USBL) for the Miami Tropics. He was USBL Man of The Year in 1986 and the Miami Tropics won the championship. His USBL stint took place the summer before Free went to the Houston Rockets for the 1987-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987-88_NBA_season) season, which was his last NBA season. For Free, the highlight of that season was November 12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_12), 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987-88_NBA_season), when he scored 38 points against the Sacramento Kings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Kings) at Arco Arena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arco_Arena) and brought the Rockets back to win the game.
In 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980), he had his first name legally changed to World.
Currently Free is community relations director for the Philadelphia 76ers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_76ers) or otherwise known as "Ambassador of Basketball," where, among other things, he greets fans at 76ers home games in his flamboyant/colorful wardrobe.
On November 30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_30), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_NBA_season), World B. Free was honored as a Cleveland Cavaliers Legend at halftime of the Cavalier game against the Los Angeles Clippers.
Dick Vitale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Vitale) uses his name in college basketball season previews to give the award for best name.
August 10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_10), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006-07_NBA_season), the Philadelphia 76ers announced World B. Free will assume additional duties as director of player development.

eddie mac
07-21-2007, 06:28 AM
The Fighting Irish select KC Jones PG Boston Celtics and Chester "Chet the Jet" Walker F Philadelphia 76ers

KC Jones

K.C. Jones

Jones was a defensive standout with the fabled Celtics dynasty of the late 1950s and 1960s. Serving first as a reserve and then as the heir to Bob Cousy at point guard, Jones won championships in the first eight seasons of his nine-year career. He contributed mightily to the Celtics by running the offense, ball-hawking, and wallpapering himself to opposing teams' star guards. After retiring, Jones continued his winning ways as a coach with six teams, employing a low-key, laissez-faire approach that won seven division titles, five Eastern Conference titles and two championships.

Chester Walker

During his 13-year NBA career with the Sixers and the Chicago Bulls in the 1960s and 1970s, Walker amassed 18,831 points and earned seven All-Star Team selections. Only twice did his scoring average dip below 15 points per game -- a noteworthy achievement given that offensive opportunities in Philadelphia were rationed among future Hall of Famers Chamberlain, Greer and Billy Cunningham. And in Chicago they were shared with the formidable Bob Love.

“Chet the Jet” was among the best open-court forwards of his day. He particularly enjoyed drawing fouls and then taking his .796 free-throw form to the charity stripe. Walker played tenacious defense and proved remarkably durable. He never missed more than six games in any season, and he became one of the few players to appear in more than 1,000 games (1,032) for his career.

Walker’s teams made the playoffs every year, and he had identical career scoring averages of 18.2 points per game in both the regular season and the postseason. His impact was most evident in Chicago, where the Bulls reached the playoffs in each of Walker’s six seasons but not in the year before he arrived or the year after he left.

Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
C George Mikan
G Oscar Robertson
G Earl Monroe
F/C Dolph Schayes
C Walt Bellamy
G Mark Price
F Chet Walker
G KC Jones

JCMElway
07-21-2007, 12:57 PM
Youcandoit PMed me his picks. He's going New school Spurs on us. He selects:

Manu Ginobli and Bruce Bowen.

VJ82 is back on the clock until 11 PM CST Saturday.

Ludo, AZBronc, and BobHorry are on deck.

vancejohnson82
07-21-2007, 02:46 PM
I need a center


http://www.bbtoystore.com/Merchant2/sportscards/SC_BK_okaforUSA.jpg










2004-05: Rookie season

The 2004-05 NBA season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004-05_NBA_season) was a successful campaign as Okafor coped well with the pressures of being the star rookie on an expansion franchise. Highlights of the season included recording 19 straight double-doubles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-double) from November 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_21) through January 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1), and finishing seventh among Eastern Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Conference_%28NBA%29) forwards in NBA All-Star Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_All-Star_Game) fan balloting with 408,082 votes, by far the highest number garnered by any rookie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rookie) in 2005. At the end of the season, Okafor beat out his friend and former college teammate and roommate, Chicago Bulls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bulls) guard Ben Gordon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gordon), to win the NBA Rookie of the Year Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeka_Okafor#_note-6)
On June 24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_24), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005), the Bobcats picked up the option for the fourth year on Okafor's contract, as he has quickly established himself as the face of the franchise, and a solid player for years to come. Okafor finished his rookie season with a on 44.7% field goal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_%28basketball%29) percentage and per-game averages of 15.1 points, 10.9 rebounds (ranked 4th in the league[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeka_Okafor#_note-7)), and 1.7 blocks.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emeka_Okafor&action=edit&section=7)] 2005-06 season

In the offseason between his rookie and second years Okafor bulked up gaining 20 pounds going from 260 to 280 lbs. It is this weight gain which he feels caused him to have trouble rehabbing his early season ankle injury and forced him to sit out most of the 2005-06 season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_NBA_season) with injuries to his ankle.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeka_Okafor#_note-dailydime) Nonetheless in the few games he played he was effective as he averaged a double-double for the second consecutive season. For the season he finished with averages of 13.2 ppg on 41.5% shooting, 10.0 rpg., and 1.9 bpg.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emeka_Okafor&action=edit&section=8)] 2006-07 season

Early into the 2006-07 season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006-07_NBA_season), Emeka Okafor has established himself as one of the best young centers in the NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association). During the offseason he continued his tutorials with Hakeem Olajuwon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Olajuwon), which he took up after his rookie season,[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeka_Okafor#_note-dailydime) and lost the 20 pounds which he had gained for his second season. Okafor feels this weight loss gives him more energy and mobilily. He currently leads the Bobcats in rebounds per game, blocks per game, and field goal percentage. He also had 8 blocks in one game this season against the Dallas Mavericks. Later he would record an NBA season high 10 blocks in one game against the New York Knicks.

JCMElway
07-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Ludo is on the clock until 4 AM CST.

AZBronc, BobHorry, and JCM are on deck.

ludo21
07-21-2007, 08:28 PM
Ill take Mike Shannahan as Head Coach.

And hear me out, he is bright mind and would get the NBA game down in 1 year.

The Mastermind can do all!!

http://eiuhalloffame.com/shanahan/shanbanner.jpg

JCMElway
07-21-2007, 08:40 PM
OK.........

AZBronc is on the clock until 7 AM CST.

freak6
07-22-2007, 03:19 AM
Ill take Mike Shannahan as Head Coach.

And hear me out...

bwaa ha haa haaaaaaaaaaaa

Classic!!!

ludo21
07-22-2007, 04:35 AM
All the greats had been taken, and D Antoni isnt my kind of coach for this squad. Shanny gets the best out of all ;D

OR I guess Westphal could be player/coach.....

epicSocialism4tw
07-22-2007, 03:50 PM
Ill take Mike Shannahan as Head Coach.

And hear me out, he is bright mind and would get the NBA game down in 1 year.

The Mastermind can do all!!

http://eiuhalloffame.com/shanahan/shanbanner.jpg


Come on, Ludo.

Shanahan isnt in any way associated with the NBA.

If you want a great offensive coach, choose the best ever: Don Nelson.

RhymesayersDU
07-22-2007, 03:56 PM
Yeah, that is basically the most retarded thing I've seen in this thread.

epicSocialism4tw
07-22-2007, 04:06 PM
Yeah, that is basically the most retarded thing I've seen in this thread.

I think that Ludo just got a bit lazy.

azbroncfan
07-22-2007, 11:21 PM
http://www.sportal.de/basketball/personal/interviews/images/schrempf_04.gif
I was going to pick Bowen or Ginobili and they both went 3 picks before mine. I 'll settle for a good rebounding, passing, 3pt shooting SF and one of the best 6th men of all time.
D. Schrempf

BobHorry5
07-22-2007, 11:40 PM
c bill walton
pf- Moses Malone
sf- Ray Allen
sg- John Havilicek
pg- Mo Cheeks
bench-
Dikimbe Mutombo
Steve Kerr
Dale Ellis
Charles Oakley

and for an all around kinda small forwad off tha bench

8 Lamar Odom — He’s so unique and talented, it’s crazy to believe Odom isn’t a consistent All-Star selection. One thing he is, though, is a consistent triple-double threat (15.9 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 4.8 apg). How many 6-10 lefties can handle and pass like a point guard but still be effective on the boards and as a scorer? When guarded by a smaller defender, Odom abuses them in the post with an arsenal of spins and jump hooks. If a big man should dare try his luck, Odom runs circles around them using dribble moves most guards would envy. His court vision is uncanny and he shoulders the majority of the ball-handling duties for the Lakers as a result. If he shot the ball more than the 12 times a game he averaged this year, he’d be even more of a problem.

JCMElway
07-23-2007, 01:08 AM
OK, time for some defense and Shot blocking off the bench.

Elmore Smith, C, 7'1''

Elmore Smith (born May 9, 1949 in Macon, Georgia) is a retired American basketball player. A 7'1" center from Kentucky State University, he played for in the National Basketball Association from 1971 to 1979. He was a member of the Buffalo Braves, Los Angeles Lakers, Milwaukee Bucks, and Cleveland Cavaliers.

In his first season, Smith averaged 17.3 points per game and 15.2 rebounds per game and was named to the NBA's All-Rookie Team. His rebounding average of 15.2 is still the eighth highest ever by an NBA rookie.

Smith is best remembered for his shot-blocking. He led the league in total blocked shots twice (in 1974 and 1975), and holds the NBA record for most blocked shots in a game, with 17 [1]. He achieved this mark against the Portland Trail Blazers on October 28, 1973, while playing for the Lakers. Smith's 4.85 blocks per game from the 1973-74 season (the first season blocked shots were officially recorded in the NBA) is the third highest ever. He was also a skilled rebounder, and he averaged a double-double (13.4 points, 10.6 rebounds) over the course of his career.

At this stage of the draft getting a guy who averaged a double-double, along with almost 3 blocks a game, is very nice. Elmore Smith is currently 5th on the all time list for blocks per game with 2.9. And his position on the all time stats for blocks could be different because blocks were not a recorded stat for the first two years of his career.

JCMElway
07-23-2007, 01:36 AM
Angryllama is up. He has until 1 PM CST to select.

ludo21
07-23-2007, 01:54 AM
I think that Ludo just got a bit lazy.

a bit???

;D

Im sorry guys, I still might change it, but ive been so lost on who has and hasnt been drafted and the coach for this kind of thing is really pointless imo.

freak6
07-23-2007, 04:53 PM
[IMG]
D. Schrempf

You got the all 80's lineup just about. Impressive.

Master___Pain
07-23-2007, 05:12 PM
a bit???

;D

Im sorry guys, I still might change it, but ive been so lost on who has and hasnt been drafted and the coach for this kind of thing is really pointless imo.

Ludo, the draft picks are on the first to posts of the thread, both by round and alphabetically.

Technically, this whole thing is pointless ludo, not just who's coaching your team. That said, it's a fun way to pass time in the off season.

JCMElway
07-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Phibacka is on the clock until 5 AM CST.

Angryllama may make a pick at any time.

Master___Pain
07-24-2007, 02:06 PM
Phibacka is on the clock until 5 AM CST.

Angryllama may make a pick at any time.

Freak, you're up dude. until 5pm CST (That's 3pm PST Freak!!)

Rhymes you're on deck

Llama and Phibacka may pick at any time


Let's get his thing moving fellas!!!!

phibacka31
07-24-2007, 05:07 PM
I select DON NELSON COACH http://blogs.marinij.com/.../images/warriors.jpg OK SO I TRIED 20:garcia: DIFF PICS I GIVE UP

epicSocialism4tw
07-24-2007, 05:41 PM
I'm really trying to give myself an advantage on the frontline, so with the next pick I will take ABA MVP and monster rebounding/defending/scoring forward George McGinnis. He can come in behind Garnett or Nowitzki to shut down the boards and power his way to the rim on the other end. McGinnis is yet another MVP and another champion to bolster the poise of the Biochemnerd Parade.

http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABABallGraphics/ModernaLogo.jpg

http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnisLogo.gif


http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnis1HanderGaleBkNice.jpghttp://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnis1HanderSimonMount.jpg
http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnisCircle.jpgGeorge McGinnis

Nicknames: "Big Mac", "The Baby Bull"
Ht. 6-8
Wt. 235
College - Indiana
ABA Team: Indiana (http://www.remembertheaba.com/Indiana-Pacers.html) (71-72 to 74-75)

All-American at Indiana University. Drafted # 1 by Pacers in 1971. ABA All-Rookie Team in 1972. ABA Co-MVP with Julius Erving in 74-75. Led ABA in Scoring in 74-75 with 29.8 ppg. Second in ABA Scoring 2 years in a row: 72-73 (27.6 ppg) and 73-74 (25.9 ppg). 3-Time ABA All-Star. 3-Time Member of ABA All-Pro Team. Played on 2 Indiana Pacers ABA Championship Teams.

From Jim O'Brien's (http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABAArticles/OBrienArticlesIntro.html) 1972-73 Complete Handbook of Pro Basketball:
After first working against McGinnis, Willie Wise, who's regarded as one of the toughest two-way forwards in pro ball, offered this remark: "The man's just too strong to be playing basketball." . . . After the rookie had 30 points and 20 rebounds against New York, Nets' coach Lou Carnesecca called him "a heavyweight contender." . . . Always remember him grabbing rebound, dribbling length of court through everyone, then throwing a behind the back pass to Roger Brown for an easy layup along the baseline . . . Signed with Pacers after sophomore season at Indiana University, where he led Big Ten in scoring (29.9) and rebounds (14.5) . . . Was All-America in high school in football as well as basketball. "I think I could've played pro football too," he says. "I think football helped me physically in basketball. I like going inside, knocking a few people around and coming out with the ball."




GPMinFGMFGAFG%3PM3PA3P%FTMFTAFT%TRebASTPFStlBlkPnt sRPGAPGPPGCareer ABA Totals3141198529956374.47081279.29018482708.682405 61104123652596791912.93.525.2ABA Playoff Totals7026815991334.44929100.290431620.69590128629 15216165812.94.123.7ABA All-Star Totals3962350.46002.000917.52938813--5512.72.718.3
The summer of 1974 was a time of drastic change for Indiana. The Pacers traded franchise mainstays Mel Daniels and Roger Brown, and signed some promising but untested rookies, like Len Elmore and Billy Knight. After much uncertainty, superstar George McGinnis was signed to a new contract. Read about the rebuilding of the Pacers in Dan Pattison's article McGinnis Signing Completes Pacers' Transitional Summer. (http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABAArticles/PattisonArticleMcGinnis.html)


http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnisDriveRobisch.jpghttp://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/GeorgeMcGinnis/McGinnisJumpClose.jpg
Biochemnerd Parade
Coach: Red Auerbach
PG - Cousy
SG - Aguirre
SF - Nowitzki
PF - Garnett
C - Russell

Bench:
Willis Reed, C
Bill Sharman, SG
Rolando Blackmon, G
George McGinnis, F

freak6
07-24-2007, 06:06 PM
You can have those ABA inflated scrubs.

I'll add another 20-10 PF at 6-9

Shareef Abdur Raheem.

I was gonna select Jimmy Connors to coach my team, then I had a second thought and figured that Mary Lou Retton and Edwin Moses would be great late additions, but I have a sleeper in mind that will bring more enthusiasm to my team. http://www.nathansfamous.com/_img/contest_2004/KobyWins.jpg

Next Round!!

Master___Pain
07-24-2007, 06:06 PM
Nice pick Yak.

Rhymes is up

RhymesayersDU
07-24-2007, 08:02 PM
I'm taking Marcus Camby, Center.

Defensive minded, averaged 11 PPG, 9 RPG, 2 APG. For his career, averaged 2.5 BPG, with 4 seasons of 3+ BPG. A Defensive Player Of The Year.

He's been known as fragile Marcus, but playing reduced minutes would probably allow him to play in my more games, I'd hope.

http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/74039337.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1932BBB80AB57C97602A6861248C759C21B 0C9A2870DDF6CCAC

Master___Pain
07-24-2007, 08:30 PM
I'm taking Marcus Camby, Center.

Defensive minded, averaged 11 PPG, 9 RPG, 2 APG. For his career, averaged 2.5 BPG, with 4 seasons of 3+ BPG. A Defensive Player Of The Year.

He's been known as fragile Marcus, but playing reduced minutes would probably allow him to play in my more games, I'd hope.

http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/74039337.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1932BBB80AB57C97602A6861248C759C21B 0C9A2870DDF6CCAC

Good pick Rhymes. He was on my draft board. I've got a great player for my next pick, I hope he makes it back to me.

RShack is on the clock

Man Goblin is on Deck

JCMElway
07-24-2007, 11:10 PM
I PMed Rshack and ManGob so we'll see if we can't pick up the pace.

Rshackleford
07-25-2007, 03:49 AM
I thought for sure my next pick would have been taken by now:
(F) Danny Manning

Master___Pain
07-25-2007, 05:38 PM
Man Goblin can select at anytime....

With my pick I select F/C Larry Nance
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/5514/84nance.jpg

Nance was the first ever winner of the NBA slam dunk contest in 1984. His nick name might be one of the best all time "The High-Ayatolla of Slamola" Larry Nance was a 3-time NBA All-Star 1985, 1989, and 1993, and the NBA All-Defensive Team First Team member in 1989, and the Second Team Member in 1992 and 1993. He was also consistently one of the league's better shot blockers, averaging 2.2 blocks per game during his career.

Nance is currently a drag racer in the International Hot Rod Association, mainly in the Pro Stock series.

Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1981-82 22 PHO NBA 80 14.8 2.8 5.5 0.0 0.0 0.9 1.5 1.2 2.0 3.2 1.0 0.5 0.9 1.3 2.1 6.6
1982-83 23 PHO NBA 82 35.5 7.2 13.0 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.5 2.9 5.7 8.7 2.4 1.2 2.6 2.3 3.1 16.7
1983-84 24 PHO NBA 82 35.4 7.3 12.7 0.0 0.1 3.0 4.3 2.8 5.5 8.3 2.6 1.0 2.1 2.2 3.3 17.7
1984-85 25 PHO NBA 61 36.1 8.4 14.4 0.0 0.0 3.0 4.2 3.2 5.6 8.8 2.6 1.4 1.7 2.2 3.0 19.9
1985-86 26 PHO NBA 73 34.0 8.0 13.7 0.0 0.1 4.2 6.1 2.3 6.2 8.5 3.3 1.0 1.8 2.9 3.4 20.2
1986-87 27 PHO NBA 69 37.2 8.5 15.4 0.0 0.1 5.5 7.1 2.7 6.0 8.7 3.4 1.2 2.1 2.2 3.2 22.5
1987-88 28 PHO NBA 40 36.9 8.2 15.4 0.1 0.1 4.7 6.2 3.0 6.9 9.9 3.1 1.1 2.4 2.7 3.8 21.1
CLE NBA 27 33.6 5.9 11.3 0.0 0.0 4.3 5.2 2.7 5.1 7.9 3.1 0.7 2.3 1.8 3.3 16.2
TOT NBA 67 35.6 7.3 13.7 0.0 0.1 4.5 5.8 2.9 6.2 9.1 3.1 0.9 2.4 2.3 3.6 19.1
1988-89 29 CLE NBA 73 34.6 6.8 12.6 0.0 0.1 3.7 4.6 2.1 5.8 8.0 2.2 0.8 2.8 1.6 2.5 17.2
1989-90 30 CLE NBA 62 33.3 6.6 13.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 3.9 2.6 5.7 8.3 2.6 0.9 2.0 1.8 3.0 16.3
1990-91 31 CLE NBA 80 36.6 7.9 15.1 0.0 0.1 3.3 4.1 2.5 6.1 8.6 3.0 0.8 2.5 1.6 2.7 19.2
1991-92 32 CLE NBA 81 35.6 6.9 12.7 0.0 0.1 3.2 4.0 2.6 5.6 8.3 2.9 1.0 3.0 1.1 2.5 17.0
1992-93 33 CLE NBA 77 35.8 6.9 12.6 0.0 0.1 2.6 3.2 2.4 6.3 8.7 2.9 0.7 2.6 1.4 2.9 16.5
1993-94 34 CLE NBA 33 27.5 4.6 9.5 0.0 0.0 1.9 2.6 2.3 4.5 6.9 1.5 0.8 1.7 1.2 2.9 11.2
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
13 Seasons 920 33.4 6.9 12.7 0.0 0.1 3.2 4.2 2.5 5.5 8.0 2.6 0.9 2.2 1.9 2.9 17.1
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+

Master Pain's Evil Counsel
PG Magic Johnson
SG Reggie Miller
SF Dominique Wilkins
PF Dan Issel
C Artis Gilmore

Bench
G David Thompson
F Tom Chambers
F/G Glen Rice
G Fat Lever
F/C Larry Nance

GSRelyea
07-25-2007, 05:57 PM
Team to be named later selects:
Rasheed Abdul Wallace (born September 17, 1974, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) is an American professional basketball player in the National Basketball Association. He currently plays power forward for the Detroit Pistons. At 6 ft 11 in (213 cm) and 230 lb (104.3 kg), Wallace plays power forward or center depending on the opposition.

Originally selected out of the University of North Carolina by the Washington Bullets (now the Wizards) in the 1995 NBA Draft, Wallace was named to the All-Rookie second team following his first season. Following the same season he was traded to the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for Rod Strickland and Harvey Grant. He had a career high 42 points against the Denver Nuggets in 2000 and was a key member of the Blazers team that made it to the Western Conference Finals that same year. Wallace had a career best 19.4 points per game in 2002 for the Blazers.

In 2004 Rasheed Wallace helped power the Detroit Pistons to the NBA title and obtained his first championship ring. In Detroit, Wallace has become known for selfless team play and integrated with Ben Wallace to form the core of the Pistons' smothering defensive game. He dubbed the duo "Wallace x 2" shortly after he arrived in Detroit in 2004.

Position Power forward-Center
Nickname Sheed
Height 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m)
Weight 230 lb (104 kg)
Team Detroit Pistons
Nationality United States
Born September 17, 1974 (1974-09-17) (age 32)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
College North Carolina
Draft 4th overall, 1995
Washington Bullets

JCMElway
07-26-2007, 12:45 AM
Way to keep up the pace everbody!

Killericon is on the clock untill noon CST on Thursday.

Man-Goblin may select at any time.

Killericon
07-26-2007, 05:48 AM
With the last pick of the 10th round, GM Killericon of the Calgary Dinos Selects F "Jumpin" Joe Fulks. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Fulks)

http://www.batug.com/6thman/joe_fulks.jpg

With the first pick of the 11th round, GM Killericon of the Calgary Dinos selects G Allan Houston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Houston).

http://www.kyathletichalloffame.org/Houston.jpg

Calgary Dinos

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9955/dinosoz9.png

Starting Lineup

C - Nate Thurmond (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thurmond_summary.html)
PF - Ben Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ben_wallace/)
SF - Dave DeBusschere (http://www.nba.com/history/players/debusschere_summary.html)
SG - Micheal Jordan (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_jordan.html)
PG - Jason Kidd (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jason_kidd/)

Coach - Pat Riley (http://www.nba.com/coachfile/pat_riley/)

Bench

F - Paul Arizin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/arizin_summary.html)
F/G - George Yardley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Yardley)
C - Mark Eaton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Eaton_%28basketball%29)
F - Joe Fulks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Fulks)
G - Allan Houston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Houston)

JCMElway
07-26-2007, 10:12 AM
Killer, really nice picks. Athletic, versatile frountcourt guy and a reliable 3 pt shooter. Well done.

GSReylea is back on the clock until 8 PM CST on Thursday.

Man-Goblin may pick at any time.

GSRelyea
07-26-2007, 10:20 AM
The Team to be named later selects: Jerry Stackhouse

NBA career
In his first season with the 76ers, Stackhouse led his team with a 19.2 points per game (PPG) average, and was named to the NBA's All-Rookie team. In the 1996-97 season, the 76ers also drafted Allen Iverson. Combined, the two posted 44.2 points per game for the Sixers.

Midway through the 1997-98 season, Stackhouse was dealt to the Detroit Pistons with Eric Montross for Theo Ratliff, Aaron McKie and future considerations. By the 1999-2000 season, his second full season with the Pistons, Stackhouse was averaging 23.6 points per game. A year later, he had a career-high average of 29.8 points per game. In a late season victory over the Chicago Bulls, he set the Pistons' franchise record and the league's season high for points in a game with 57. Still, because he consistently posted low shooting percentages, fans took to calling him "Brickhouse" (the slang term "brick" means a badly missed shot). Stackhouse saw his final action as a Piston with Detroit's elimination in the second round of the 2001-02 NBA playoffs.

During the 2002 offseason, Stackhouse was traded to the Washington Wizards in a six-player deal, the major name involved in the deal being Richard Hamilton. Evidently Detroit saw something in Hamilton they did not see in Stackhouse, and most would agree this trade was instrumental in Detroit's pursuit of a championship.

In his first season with Washington, Stackhouse led the Wizards in points and assists per game with 21.5 and 4.5 respectively. He missed most of the 2003-04 season while recovering from arthroscopic surgery on his right knee, playing in only 26 games.

In the 2004 offseason, Stackhouse–along with Christian Laettner and the Wizards' first-round draft pick (Devin Harris)–was traded to the Dallas Mavericks, for Antawn Jamison. Benched for 41 games during his first two seasons with Dallas thanks to groin and continued knee problems, Stackhouse now serves an important role for the Mavericks as a high-scoring sixth man. During the 2004-05 playoffs, Stackhouse began wearing pressure stockings during games to keep his legs warm to aid his groin injury and hold his thigh sleeves in place; also allows for better blood flow to the legs; the practice quickly became a trend among NBA players, with Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and others adopting pressure stockings the following season.

As of the end of the 2005-06 NBA season, Stackhouse was still coming off the bench as the 6th man for the Dallas Mavericks. Although he had been a significant factor in the team's initial NBA Finals series lead over the Miami Heat, the Heat eventually won the series 4-2. On June 16, 2006, NBA Vice President of Basketball Operations Stu Jackson released a statement that Stackhouse would be suspended for Game 5 of the NBA Finals series for a flagrant foul on Shaquille O'Neal. Jackson called the foul excessive and said it warranted a suspension. This action made Stackhouse the third player from the Mavericks suspended during the 2006 playoffs (Jason Terry was suspended for one game for punching San Antonio Spurs guard Michael Finley in the groin and DJ Mbenga was suspended six games for walking into the stands during Game 4 of the NBA Western Conference Finals).

Position Guard/Forward
Height 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m)
Weight 218 lb (99 kg)
Team Dallas Mavericks
Nationality United States
Born November 5, 1974 (1974-11-05) (age 32)
Kinston, North Carolina
College North Carolina
Draft 3rd overall, 1995
Philadelphia 76ers

Man-Goblin
07-26-2007, 11:13 AM
I select Denver's East High School's own...

Joe Barry Carroll

...as my backup center.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/justusj/carroll.jpg

http://thedraftreview.com/history/drafted1980/images/joebarry-carroll.jpg

Flying Lithuanians
PG - Dennis Johnson
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale
C - Bob Lanier

G - Vinnie Johnson
PF - Shawn Kemp
G/F - Walter Davis
C - Joe Barry Carroll

Coach - Chuck Daly

Master___Pain
07-26-2007, 02:29 PM
Master Pain's Evil Counsel selects G Eddie Jones (Lakers, Hornets, Heat, Grizzly)

http://www.ultimatenba.com/galerias/EddieJones/EddieJones003.jpg

A top three point shooter of all time and a great defensive player. 3 time 2nd teamall NBA defensive player and #7 all time in threes made. Jones was also a three time all star/ Ranks in the top 25 all time in steals as well.

Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1994-95 23 LAL NBA 64 31.0 5.3 11.6 1.4 3.8 1.9 2.6 1.2 2.7 3.9 2.0 2.0 0.6 1.2 2.7 14.0
1995-96 24 LAL NBA 70 31.2 4.8 9.8 1.2 3.2 1.9 2.6 0.6 2.7 3.3 3.5 1.8 0.6 1.4 2.3 12.8
1996-97 25 LAL NBA 80 37.5 5.9 13.5 1.9 4.9 3.5 4.2 1.1 3.0 4.1 3.4 2.4 0.6 2.1 2.8 17.2
1997-98 26 LAL NBA 80 36.4 6.1 12.6 1.8 4.6 2.9 3.8 1.1 2.7 3.8 3.1 2.0 0.7 1.8 2.1 16.9
1998-99 27 LAL NBA 20 36.2 4.8 11.4 1.0 3.2 3.0 4.0 1.0 2.8 3.8 3.1 1.8 1.2 1.1 2.1 13.6
CHH NBA 30 38.6 5.5 12.3 0.9 2.6 5.1 6.4 1.0 2.9 3.9 4.2 3.0 1.1 2.4 2.9 17.0
TOT NBA 50 37.6 5.2 11.9 1.0 2.8 4.2 5.4 1.0 2.9 3.9 3.7 2.5 1.2 1.9 2.6 15.6
1999-00 28 CHH NBA 72 39.0 6.6 15.5 1.8 4.7 5.0 5.8 1.1 3.6 4.8 4.2 2.7 0.7 2.2 2.4 20.1
2000-01 29 MIA NBA 63 36.2 6.2 13.8 1.4 3.8 3.6 4.3 1.2 3.4 4.6 2.7 1.7 0.9 2.1 2.9 17.4
2001-02 30 MIA NBA 81 39.0 6.4 14.8 1.8 4.7 3.7 4.4 0.8 3.9 4.7 3.2 1.4 1.0 1.8 3.2 18.3
2002-03 31 MIA NBA 47 38.1 6.2 14.6 2.1 5.1 4.0 4.9 0.7 4.1 4.8 3.7 1.4 0.7 1.8 2.9 18.5
2003-04 32 MIA NBA 81 37.0 5.8 14.3 2.2 5.9 3.4 4.1 0.5 3.3 3.8 3.2 1.1 0.4 1.6 2.8 17.3
2004-05 33 MIA NBA 80 35.5 4.4 10.3 1.8 4.8 2.2 2.7 0.5 4.6 5.1 2.7 1.1 0.5 1.2 3.1 12.7
2005-06 34 MEM NBA 75 32.5 3.9 9.6 1.8 5.0 2.2 2.9 0.5 3.3 3.7 2.4 1.7 0.4 1.2 2.7 11.8
2006-07 35 MEM NBA 29 19.3 2.0 5.2 0.8 2.6 0.9 1.2 0.5 1.6 2.1 1.1 0.8 0.1 0.8 1.9 5.6
MIA NBA 35 29.5 3.5 7.7 1.6 4.2 1.0 1.2 0.5 3.2 3.7 2.2 1.3 0.2 0.7 2.0 9.5
TOT NBA 64 24.9 2.8 6.6 1.2 3.5 0.9 1.2 0.5 2.5 3.0 1.7 1.1 0.2 0.7 1.9 7.7
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
13 Seasons 907 35.1 5.4 12.2 1.7 4.4 3.0 3.7 0.8 3.3 4.1 3.0 1.8 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.4
+------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+

This was a tough choice here. I needed a defensive minded player that could guard the 1,2 and 3 positions and had some offense in their game as well. It came down to Jones and Ron Harper, with Jones 3 point shooting putting just past Harper.

Master Pain's Evil Counsel
PG Magic Johnson
SG Reggie Miller
SF Dominique Wilkins
PF Dan Issel
C Artis Gilmore

Bench
G David Thompson
G Fat Lever
G/F Glen Rice
G/F Eddie Jones
F Tom Chambers
F/C Larry Nance

JCMElway
07-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Man-Goblin is back on the clock until 6 AM CST.

Rshack, Rhymesayers, and Freak6 are on deck.

Man-Goblin
07-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Needing a backup PG, I'm going to go with a guy that before he's done he could be an all-time great. I take...

Chris Paul

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/664/664188/chris-paul-interview-20051103033612394-000-000.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/justusj/paul.jpg

"If you could pick any point guard under the age of 30, this is the guy." Bill Simmons

Man-Goblin
07-27-2007, 10:25 AM
THE team...

Flying Lithuanians
PG - Dennis Johnson
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale
C - Bob Lanier

G - Vinnie Johnson
PF - Shawn Kemp
G/F - Walter Davis
C - Joe Barry Carroll
PG - Chris Paul

Coach - Chuck Daly

Rshackleford
07-27-2007, 03:04 PM
I need some power at the forward position, so I will take (F) Derrick Coleman

RhymesayersDU
07-27-2007, 09:43 PM
I'm out of town, so I only have a second, but I choose:

Spencer Haywood, PF.

JCMElway
07-28-2007, 02:20 AM
Freak6 is on the clock until 1 PM CST on Saturday.

Phibacka, Angryllama, and JCM are on deck

Good job everyone. At this rate we're going to finish pretty soon. Keep up the great work!

JCMElway
07-28-2007, 02:52 AM
**IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT**

Ok folks, we have an issue. Freak6 just got banned for 60 days for being an arse in the youtube thread.

So.......

Please take a look at his team and PM me three guys you think fit with his squad and fill a need. Also PM me a coach or three that would work well with his guys. I will take the most voted players for him and make the selections that way.

**I know the temptation is to put crappy people on his team because of the s*** he talked, but let's keep it real and make good choices to complete his squad please** His team is currently:

G -- Kobe, Allen Iverson, Chauncey Billups
F -- Larry Bird, Bob McAdoo, Paul Pierce, Elton Brand, Shareef Abdur-Rahim
C -- Robert Parrish, Yao Ming

Since this is something new we have to deal with I will make Freak's pick at 10 AM CST on Sunday morning. That should give everyone time to get a few choices to me.

This seems like the fairest way to handle the situation at this stage of the draft. If anyone has any thoughts on the matter I would be happy to hear them.

All this being said Phibacka will be on the clock at 10 AM on Sunday morning CST. Sorry for the delay folks.

JCM

vancejohnson82
07-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Yinka Dare

JCMElway
07-29-2007, 02:52 AM
All right, let's get things moving again.

Freak6 selects Rod Strickland, PG, Trailblazers, Bullets, 7 other clubs.

Rod Strickland ended his career with almost 8 assits per game. God knows Freak needs someone to distribute the ball on this team.

Phibacka is on the clock until Midnight on Monday, CST.

JCMElway
07-30-2007, 09:09 AM
Angryllama is on the clock until 5 PM CST.

Phibacka may select at any time.

epicSocialism4tw
07-30-2007, 06:07 PM
This fellow was a fiercely competitive 2-time MVP and a champion. He's one of the most underrated players in basketball history, and is a fierce bull of a man with a supreme drive to win.

I'll gladly and proudly take champion, mvp, poet, Mel Daniels.
http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABABallGraphics/ModernaLogo.jpg

http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsLogo.gif

http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsReboundGrimaceClose.jpghttp://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsDunkGilmoreClose.jpg
http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsCircle.jpgMel Daniels

Ht. 6-9
Wt. 225
College - New Mexico
ABA Teams: Minnesota (http://www.remembertheaba.com/Minnesota-Muskies.html) (1967-68), Indiana (http://www.remembertheaba.com/Indiana-Pacers.html) (1968-69 to 1973-74), Memphis (http://www.remembertheaba.com/Memphis-Sounds.html) (1974-75)

All-American at New Mexico; ABA's first Rookie of the Year in 1967-68 with the Minnesota Muskies; 2-Time ABA MVP; Led ABA in Rebounds 3 times: 1967-68 (15.6 rpg), 1968-69 (16.5 rpg), and 1970-71 (18.0 rpg); ABA All-Time Career Leader in Rebounds with 9,494; 7-Time ABA All-Star; 5-Time Member of ABA All-Pro Team; Member of all 3 Indiana Pacers ABA Championship Teams; Unanimous Selection to ABA 30 Man All-Time Team

From Jim O'Brien's (http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABAArticles/OBrienArticlesIntro.html) 1972-73 Complete Handbook of Pro Basketball:
Mel has been a most consistent star in the ABA from its beginning . . . Has won just about all available awards in ABA, and respect in NBA from those who have competed against him in all-star contests or seen him in action . . . A fiercely competitive, driven man . . . When challenged he is as awesome as the Loch Ness monster . . . Favors bulling opposing pivots into the cheaper seats . . . League's MVP in 1969 and 1971, and All-Star Game MVP in 1971 . . . ABA Rookie of the Year in 1968 . . . Led Pacers to ABA title in 1969-70, 1971-72 and 1972-73 seasons . . . Enjoys horseback riding and outdoors in Albuquerque, New Mexico where he went to school, made All-America and was No. 1 draft choice of NBA Cincinnati Royals . . . Joined ABA with ill-fated Minnesota Muskies . . . Pacers gave up two players and cash to get him for second ABA season and it was an absolute steal . . . Writes poetry about his personal experiences, prefers Poe for reading




GPMinFGMFGAFG%3PM3PA3P%FTMFTAFT%TRebASTPFStlBlkPnt sRPGAPGPPGCareer ABA Totals6282234046599950.468334.08824183676.65894941 1342280--1173915.11.818.7ABA Playoff Totals10939017401648.44905.000421616.6831608168433--190114.81.517.4ABA All-Star Totals719550111.45000.0003253.604778200313211.01.1 18.9
MEMORIES OF PAT COSGROVE: It is a shame Mel Daniels doesn't get the respect that he earned. During the first six years of the ABA he was as good as Nate Thurmond. He certainly deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame before Walt Bellamy. During Game 5 of the 1971-72 ABA Finals against the Nets, Daniels made a couple of plays (in succession) that I'll never forget. As I recall, the series was tied 2-2 and the Nets jumped out to a huge lead on the Pacers home court. The Pacers staged a wild rally -- mainly due to a 3-point barrage by Billy Keller. However, the Nets looked like they would hold on for the upset. Rick Barry hit a couple of big hoops and then made a spectacular move to get past Roger Brown. He seemed to be cruising in for an easy left-handed layup. But Daniels came out of nowhere to reject the shot right into the hands of Freddie Lewis. Lewis then led the break and dished off to a hard-charging Daniels -- who dunked and was fouled. The momentum reverted to the Pacers and they won that crucial contest. If this sequence had occurred in the NBA Finals, you can be sure that we would have seen the film replayed as much as Willie Mays' catch in the '54 World Series."


http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsBkBoxoutGilmore.jpghttp://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/MelDaniels/DanielsBlockIsselYell.jpghttp://www.remembertheaba.com/ABAUniforms/1969DanielsPacersUniFront.JPG

epicSocialism4tw
07-30-2007, 06:24 PM
Biochemnerd Parade
Coach: Red Auerbach
PG - Cousy
SG - Aguirre
SF - Nowitzki
PF - Garnett
C - Russell

Bench:
Willis Reed, C
Bill Sharman, SG
Rolando Blackmon, G
George McGinnis, F
Mel Daniels, C


Biochemnerd Parade Depth Chart:
PG - Bob Cousy/
SG - Mark Aguirre/Bill Sharman / Ro Blackmon
SF - Dirk Nowitzki / George McGinness/ Ro Blackmon
PF - Kevin Garnett / George McGinness / Mel Daniels
C - Bill Russell / Willis Reed / Mel Daniels

Well, one thing's for certain...you arent getting to the basket on this team. Between Russell, Garnett, Reed, McGinness, and Daniels, every trip to the basket runs into a brick wall.

On offense, my team will run up and down the floor under the brilliant fluid direction of the great Bob Cousy. Bob Cousy was Steve Nash before Steve Nash was cool. So, I've got Cousy running the floor with super-athletic players all over the place. We have the shooters to stretch the floor , the catch & finish guys , the creators/passers, and the defenders.

Good luck against this squad. ;D

JCMElway
07-30-2007, 08:05 PM
I am so happy this guy is still there.

Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson, 13th all time in rebounds per game at 12.7.

6'6", 235 lbs, Bullets, Pacers, Suns

A lethal inside scorer and an exciting open-court performer, Johnson was among the most effective two-way players of his time. His moves around the basket were comparable to those of peers Elgin Baylor and Connie Hawkins then Julius Erving in later years. Yet as effective as Johnson was a post-up and mid-range threat, he was even more dominant as a physical defender and rebounder throughout his career. Indeed, he was one of the select few players who was quick enough to be paired against backcourt great Oscar Robertson yet strong enough to hold his own against the much taller Wilt Chamberlain in the middle.

Despite chronic knee problems, Johnson was a perennial All-Star. In his NBA career, Johnson averaged 17.4 points and 12.7 rebounds per game. He scored 25 points in 25 minutes in the 1965 All-Star Game.

Johnson experienced his best years with the Bullets from 1968-71, during which he received All-League consideration. As the team was more successful, he received more recognition for his stellar play. In the 1968-69 campaign, the Bullets turned in the best regular-season record but faded in the playoffs, largely because Johnson was sidelined because of an injury. After a third-place finish in 1970 to the eventual league champion New York, Johnson and the Bullets upset them in seven games then advanced to the NBA Finals in 1971. Injuries had decimated the team by then, however, and it lost to Lew Alcindor (later Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the Milwaukee Bucks in a four-game sweep.

Injuries banished Johnson to the bench in 1972, his last with the team. They limited his career to 10 seasons and no doubt prevented post-career honors such as Hall of Fame induction and inclusion on the NBA 50 Greatest Players Ever list.

Another testimonial to Gus:

How great was Gus Johnson? In the same article, the GM of the Lakers in the 60's said that "when we passed Gus Johnson in the first round, we blew two or three NBA championships." Gus was that good. While Gus played for the losing Bullets for most of his professional carreer which caused his fame to be not as great as it could have been, the admiration Gus received from his peers was almost incomparable.

As Missildine says, "as long as basketball is played, Gus Johnson's image will be lasting and bright...I hope the NBA Hall of Fame gets the message it should have gotten long ago."

Gus was considered by many to be the prototype of the modern NBA player. He was known for his showboating (he had a gold star in his front tooth) both on and off the court. He was one of the first to dunk and shattered three NBA backboards in his career. He had acrobatic moves and shots. Although his main thing was assists, rebounding and defense, he is often compared to Julius Erving, Michael Jordan and Larry Bird. High praise? You bet, and not just from Missildine. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar called one of Gus Johnson's backboard shattering dunks "one of the greatest basketball plays ever."

Earl Monroe said, "Gus was ahead of his time, flying through the air for slam dunks, breaking backboards and throwing full-court passes behind his back. He was spectacular, but he also did the nitty gritty jobs, defense and rebounding. With all the guys in the Hall of Game, Gus deserves to be there already."

Current Bullets owner Abe Pollin said, "I first saw Gus on television...I had never seen a player dominate a game so. Gus was the Dr. J of his time and anyone that ever had the privilege to see him play will never forget what a great basketball player Gus Johson was." And from Butch Komives, "You've got to remember he was only 6-6. But he had the strength to play Wilt Chamberlain and the quickness to guard Oscar Robertson. No one played the Big O tougher. In my book, Gus was better than Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry or Dr. J. He did it all and never backed down from anyone."

And the best testimonial from Hoops Hype, they rated the 10 players after the NBA's all time 50 greatest, and Gus Johnson came up on the list:

Gus “Honeycomb” Johnson. One of the heroes of my youth, Gus was arguably the second best power forward, behind Jerry Lucas, for an eight-year stretch ending in 1971, despite standing but 6-6. Four times he was second-team All-NBA, and he’d have garnered more honors if not for a serious knee at age 32, a few months after his greatest season (1970-71). The NBA began it’s “All-Defensive” teams in 1969, and Gus made first team in 1970 and 1971. A dominant rebounder, he even outboarded his teammate and rebounder extraordinaire Wes Unseld in the 1970-71 season that saw the Baltimore Bullets compete in the Finals for the first time. (Alas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Oscar Robertson led the Bucks to a 4-0 sweep.) He was the Jim Brown of the NBA, combining strength, power, speed, quickness and leaping ability. A solid scorer and the greatest 6-6 shotblocker ever, he had the misfortune to play before the league recorded swats. He had a number of epic battles with Top 50 player and Hall of Famer Dave DeBusschere of the Knicks. He was also the first to shatter a backboard while dunking. Gus probably would have made the Top 50 if he hadn’t died so young, in 1987. He wasn’t around nine years later to remind people what a force he was. Let’s just say that if Gus had battled Charles Barkley when both were in their prime, it’s Barkley who would have been forced to cry, “You’re my daddy!”

JCMElway
07-30-2007, 08:14 PM
And that's all I've got to say about that.

BobHorry5 selects Chuck Person. He'll tell you all about Chuck shortly.

AZBroncfan is on the clock until 7 AM CST.

azbroncfan
07-30-2007, 09:21 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/08/225px-Ralph-Sampson.jpg

I need a backup big man and this guy was pretty good until injuries caught up with him. He was a 20 pt and 10 rebound machine until knees went down the tube and finished with a 16 pt and 9 rebound.

JCMElway
07-30-2007, 11:31 PM
Ludo21 is on the clock until noon on Tuesday.

Phibacka may select at any time.

RhymesayersDU
07-31-2007, 10:09 AM
Ludo selects Jay Cutler. Come on, he could get the NBA game in like, 6 months tops. And with his arm, he could rocket the ball down court to Nash!

epicSocialism4tw
07-31-2007, 10:55 AM
Ludo selects Jay Cutler. Come on, he could get the NBA game in like, 6 months tops. And with his arm, he could rocket the ball down court to Nash!

:spit:

ludo21
07-31-2007, 12:39 PM
Ludo selects Jay Cutler. Come on, he could get the NBA game in like, 6 months tops. And with his arm, he could rocket the ball down court to Nash!

:~ohyah!:

You know me too well.. ;D

This is getting freaking hard. Im just going to go with Tony Parker if he hasnt been selected.

If so, then Il take the Suns Speed Demon Leandro Barbosa, future HOF. :clown:

JCMElway
07-31-2007, 07:18 PM
Ludo takes Leandro Barbosa.

VJ82 is on the clock until 5 AM CST.

Phibacka may select at any time.

vancejohnson82
08-01-2007, 01:26 PM
I need another distributor....and this guy wasnt just a novelty act...he could play

http://www.spin-web.com/Muggsy/muggsy_stockton.jpg


Plus, he gets to play with his boy ZO again!!!

JCMElway
08-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Weird. I thought I posted this before, but:

Eddie mac is on the clock until 5 PM CST.

Phibacka may select at any time.

JCMElway
08-01-2007, 08:19 PM
OK, picks are starting to pile up....

Youcandoit is on the clock for two picks. He has untill 10 AM CST to select.

Phibacka and Eddie Mac may select at any time.

youcandoit1687
08-02-2007, 03:04 AM
Ok, I select ATH Boris Diaw and Point Guard Sam Cassell

azbroncfan
08-02-2007, 11:07 AM
Ok, I select ATH Boris Diaw and Point Guard Sam Cassell

Cassell I believe was already picked.

JCMElway
08-02-2007, 12:04 PM
Yes, Sam Cassel was taken, so You can may select again. Folks, before you select please check the alphabetical list on page one of this thread.

So.

VJ82 is on the clock until noon on Friday, CST.

Eddie Mac may make two selections at any time.


Youcan and Phibacka may make one selection at any time.

eddie mac
08-03-2007, 09:24 AM
The Fighting Irish select G/F Tom Heinsohn Boston Celtics and John Kundla HC Minneapolis

Tom Heinsohn

Known for his hard-nosed style of play, yet possessing a superb shooting touch and good body control, Tom Heinsohn was a vital cog in the Boston Celtics' dynasty of the 1950s and 1960s. Chosen as NBA Rookie of the Year in 1957, he helped the Celtics win eight NBA titles during his nine-year tenure, was named to the All-NBA Second Team for four years, and was an All-Star for six. After retiring in 1965, Heinsohn coached the Celtics to two more world championships and was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1986.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketbball Hall of Fame (1986); Eight-time NBA champion (1957, 1959-'65); All-NBA Second Team (1961-'64); Six-time NBA All-Star (1957, '61-65); Rookie of the Year (1957).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
654 .405 .790 5,749 8.8 1,318 2.0 12,194 18.6

John Kundla HC

Coached Minneapolis to five NBA championships in six seasons from 1948-49 through 1953-54 ... Served 11 years as NBA head coach ... His 1949-50 Minneapolis team recorded fourth-best home winning percentage in NBA history (.868/30-1) ... Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1995.

The Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
C George Mikan
G Oscar Robertson
G Earl Monroe
F/C Dolph Schayes
C Walt Bellamy
G Mark Price
F Chet Walker
G KC Jones
F/G Tom Heinsohn
HC John Kundla

JCMElway
08-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Sorry I've been a bit behind fellas.

AZBroncfan is on the clock until 10 PM CST.


Youcan, VJ82, and Phibacka may make one selection at any time.

RhymesayersDU
08-05-2007, 12:11 AM
Let's pick up the pace and finish this thing....!

JCMElway
08-05-2007, 12:30 PM
OK, Bobhorry5 is on the clock, but I know he does not get out of work unil 5 CST.

So, we wait.....

But you others could get your picks in! Phibacka, Youcan, VJ82......

azbroncfan
08-05-2007, 11:27 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/history/bulls_sloan_white.jpg

J. Sloan as a Player. All time great defender and very high rebounding average for a guard. 15pg and 7.5 RPG.

RhymesayersDU
08-06-2007, 07:48 PM
Let's pick up the pace and finish this thing....!

^

JCMElway
08-06-2007, 10:52 PM
Good bump buddy.

My selection is Hank Luisetti, PG/SG, Stanford Cardinals (I'd list his pro teams, but there was no professional basketball at this time.)

Angelo "Hank" Luisetti (June 16, 1916 in San Francisco, California - December 17, 2002 in San Mateo, California) was a college men's basketball player and one of the great innovators to the game. In an era that featured the traditional two-handed set shot, Luisetti developed the running one-handed shot. Equipped with such an offensive weapon, Luisetti became one of the most dominant players in college basketball history. Playing for Stanford, he became the first player to score 50 points in a game on January 1, 1938 versus Duquesne. Luisetti was named the second-best player of the mid-century (behind George Mikan) by an Associated Press poll of sportswriters and broadcasters in 1950.

And:

The One-handed Shot of Hank Luisetti
The game of basketball was changed completely during the 1930s by Hank Luisetti and his one handed shot.

The One-handed Shot in the 1930s of Hank Luisetti

‘It hardly seems possible today, but basketball was once a slow-moving, low-scoring game. A college kid with a ‘crazy’ shot changed it forever.

Once upon a time---and you young guys aren’t going to believe this---the total score of a basketball game was frequently 25 points or less. In 1926, for instance, City College of New York beat Villanova, 11-9, and lost a tough one to Carnegie The, 13-12. City also beat Dickinson, 15-7, and in a high-scoring game, defeated Temple, 15-14.

Then, one day 26 years ago, a young kid named Angelo Enrico (Hank) Luisetti came out of the West and did for basketball what Babe Ruth did for baseball and what Red Grange did for football. That is, he revolutionized the game. Playing for Stanford University, he made the one-handed shot famous---and basketball hasn’t been the same since.

There are those who say Luisetti was the best player ever. ‘I can’t remember anybody who could do more things,’ Clair Bee, one of the best of the basketball coaches, said not long ago. ‘He was an amazing marksman, a spectacular dribbler and an awfully clever passer,’ said Nat Holman, one of the Original Celtics. ‘The thing I remember about him,’ said Joe Lapchick, another old Celtic, ‘was his uncanny ability to control the ball while going at top speed.’

‘He was as far ahead of his time as Bob Cousy is ahead of the others today.’ said Pic Picariello, a Long Island University coach who goes back 35 years or so. In a poll of sportswriters taken a few years ago to determine the best basketball player of the half-century, only George Mikan drew more votes than Luisetti.

And a former teamate states: teammate PHIL ZONNE, "Michael Jordan is the only basketball player who's in the same category as Luisetti."

JCMElway
08-06-2007, 11:56 PM
Angryllama is on the clock and has unti 3 PM CST to select.

Youcan, VJ82, Bobhorry5 and Phibacka may make one selection at any time.

epicSocialism4tw
08-07-2007, 12:44 AM
After careful deliberation, the Biochemnerd Parade elect to go with another underrated golden oldie.

Kevin Porter, G, WAS/DET/NJ/BAL

Kevin was the NBA assist leader for 4 years, and enjoyed some great playoff achievements.

Kevin Porter (born April 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_17), 1950 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950), in Chicago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago), Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois)) is a retired American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) professional basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball) player.
A 6'0" point guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_guard) from Saint Francis University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Francis_University), Porter played 10 seasons (1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972)–1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981); 1982 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982)–1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983)) in the National Basketball Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association) as a member of the Baltimore/Capital/Washington Bullets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Wizards), the Detroit Pistons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Pistons), and the New Jersey Nets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Nets). Porter was one of the most talented passers in league history, leading the league in both assists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_%28basketball%29) per game and total assists four times during his career (1975 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974-75_NBA_season), 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977-78_NBA_season), 1979 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978-79_NBA_season), and 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980-81_NBA_season)). At one point, Porter held the record for most assists in a game, with 29. (Scott Skiles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Skiles) broke the record when he tallied 30 assists on December 30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_30), 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990).)
Porter was also a key member of the 1975 Bullets team which reached the NBA Finals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_NBA_Finals) before losing to the Golden State Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors). When he retired in 1983, he had accumulated 5,314 career assists and 7,645 career points.
Following his retirement from the NBA, Porter joined the Toyota Basketball Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Basketball_Team) in the Philippine Basketball Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Basketball_Association) and played for one conference.

(from wikipedia)

JCMElway
08-07-2007, 09:44 AM
Nice pick llama.

Phibacka is back on the clock until 11 PM CST. He may make two selections at any time.

Youcan, VJ82, and Bobhorry5 may make one selection at any time.

JCMElway
08-08-2007, 09:49 AM
Rhymesayers is on the clock until 9 PM CST.

I will make Freak's pick when I get home from work.

Youcan, VJ82, and Bobhorry5 may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time.

vancejohnson82
08-08-2007, 10:05 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/oakley_hp_040318.jpg

CHARLES OAKLEY

A classic blue-collar player and one of the premier rebounders in the NBA, Charles Oakley began his NBA career after being drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers but was immediately traded to the Chicago Bulls in 1985. Traded to the New York Knicks in 1988, he was named to his first All-Star Game in his ninth season, the hardworking 6-9 forward was the heart and soul of a New York Knicks team that reached the 1994 NBA Finals, when his solid defense, rebounding and inside presence provided a valuable complement to the all-around play of All-Star center Patrick Ewing.
On June 25, 1998, after a decade in New York, Oakley was obtained by Toronto along with the rights to Sean Marks and cash for Marcus Camby. He started all 50 games in his first season with the Raptors, providing a veteran presence for a young team striving to become a playoff contender. After helping Toronto get one shot away from the Eastern Conference Finals, Oakley was sent back to the first NBA team he suited up for in a trade with the Bulls on July 19, 2001. After one season in Chicago, Oakley reunited with former Chicago Bull teammate Michael Jordan by signing as a free agent with the Washington Wizards on October 12, 2002.

RhymesayersDU
08-08-2007, 10:28 AM
http://cache.nba.com/media/history/goodrich_layup_350.jpg

Gail Goodrich, G

Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1996)
NBA champion (1972)
All-NBA First Team (1974)
Five-time NBA All-Star (1969, 1972-75)

19 PPG
5 APG
3 RPG

azbroncfan
08-08-2007, 02:53 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/oakley_hp_040318.jpg

CHARLES OAKLEY

A classic blue-collar player and one of the premier rebounders in the NBA, Charles Oakley began his NBA career after being drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers but was immediately traded to the Chicago Bulls in 1985. Traded to the New York Knicks in 1988, he was named to his first All-Star Game in his ninth season, the hardworking 6-9 forward was the heart and soul of a New York Knicks team that reached the 1994 NBA Finals, when his solid defense, rebounding and inside presence provided a valuable complement to the all-around play of All-Star center Patrick Ewing.
On June 25, 1998, after a decade in New York, Oakley was obtained by Toronto along with the rights to Sean Marks and cash for Marcus Camby. He started all 50 games in his first season with the Raptors, providing a veteran presence for a young team striving to become a playoff contender. After helping Toronto get one shot away from the Eastern Conference Finals, Oakley was sent back to the first NBA team he suited up for in a trade with the Bulls on July 19, 2001. After one season in Chicago, Oakley reunited with former Chicago Bull teammate Michael Jordan by signing as a free agent with the Washington Wizards on October 12, 2002.

Already picked. Check list on page one if unsure who has been picked.

JCMElway
08-08-2007, 09:55 PM
OK, Freak6 needs a coach. We know his team isn't going to play much defense, so he needs a coach that can get in done with offense. Freak6 selects

Doug Moe, Coach, Nuggets, Spurs, 76ers

Moe became a coach in 1976-1977, working behind the bench for 15 years, ten of them with the Denver Nuggets. He also had stops in San Antonio and Philadelphia. His Denver teams were characterized by a run-and-gun style that emphasized offense rather than defense. He was often criticized for his style, but the fans loved it. While he never won an NBA title, his overall coaching record was a successful 628-529, and he won the 1987-88 NBA Coach of the Year Award. He is currently an assistant coach with the Nuggets.

JCMElway
08-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Holy Crap!

I missed Ludo's last pick! So Ludo may make a selection.

R Shack is on the clock. He has until noon on Tursday to select.

Youcan, VJ82, Ludo, and Bobhorry5 may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time.

ludo21
08-08-2007, 10:06 PM
hmmmm......

How about Elliot "Socks" Perry.

The first player I remember who would pull up on a fast break and shoot a 3!! ;D

Rshackleford
08-08-2007, 11:01 PM
I thought my team was complete, but anyways, I will take the next best player on my list, (G) Michael Finley.

JCMElway
08-08-2007, 11:12 PM
Fantastic guys. Hey Shack, does your team have a coach yet?

JCMElway
08-09-2007, 01:02 AM
Bob Horry5 selects Vlade Divac. (Via PM)

Vlade Divac, C, Lakers, Kings, Hornets
7'1", 260 lbs

Drafted into the NBA in 1989, he played for the Los Angeles Lakers and was one of the first European players to have an impact on the league. He was traded to the Charlotte Hornets for the draft rights to Kobe Bryant in 1996. He later signed as a free agent with the Sacramento Kings where he played from 1998 to 2004 alongside fellow countryman Peja Stojakovic.

Divac earned a reputation for flopping, or deceiving the officials into calling a foul on the other team by purposely falling to the floor upon contact with an opposing player.[1] Veteran NBA forward P.J. Brown claimed that Divac might have been the best of all time at flopping.[2] Divac freely admitted doing so, adding that he usually did it when he felt like the officials had missed some calls and owed him.[3]

After the 2003-04 NBA season, he became a free agent. He signed a deal to return to the Lakers and was part of a grand plan to overhaul Laker basketball. The Lakers, following a defeat in the NBA Finals, had traded away or released most of their players, including star center Shaquille O'Neal; Divac was supposed to fill that void. However, Divac had back problems and was unsure if he could play. On 14 July 2005, Divac announced his retirement, ending his sixteen-year basketball career.

# Earned first selection to NBA All-Star Game in 2001
# Ranked 12th in the NBA in field-goal percentage (.503) in 1999-2000
# Ranked 2nd on the Kings in scoring (14.3 ppg), rebounds (10.0 rpg, 10th in the NBA), assists (4.3 apg) and blocked shots (1.02 bpg) in 1998-99
# Ranks 4th in Lakers franchise history with 830 blocked shots
# Appeared in the 1991 NBA Finals against the Chicago Bulls and has averaged 12.9 ppg, 7.7 rpg and 2.4 apg in 63 career NBA Playoff games
# Named to the 1989-90 NBA All-Rookie First Team after averaging 8.5 ppg and 6.2 rpg for the Lakers
#Joins Hall of Famers Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Hakeem Olajuwon as the only players in NBA history to amass 13,000 points, 9,000 rebounds, 3,000 assists and 1,500 blocked shots.

JCMElway
08-09-2007, 01:22 AM
Man-Goblin is on the clock. He has until noon CST on Thursday to select.

Youcan and VJ82 may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time.

Master___Pain
08-09-2007, 12:15 PM
I think I'm up

Master Pain's Evil Counsel select Red Holzman

Nominated as one of the 10 best coaches of all-time, Holzman guided the Knicks to two NBA championships in 1970 and 1973. In 15 seasons as the Knicks headman he won 613 games.

http://www.cnnsi.com/features/1998/year/images/holtzman.jpg

Master Pain's Evil Counsel
PG Magic Johnson
SG Reggie Miller
SF Dominique Wilkins
PF Dan Issel
C Artis Gilmore

Bench
G David Thompson
G Fat Lever
G/F Glen Rice
G/F Eddie Jones
F Tom Chambers
F/C Larry Nance

Head Coach Red Holzman

GSRelyea
08-09-2007, 01:05 PM
The Team to be named later selects:

Jack Wayne Sikma (born November 14, 1955 in Kankakee, Illinois) is an American former NBA basketball center.

Drafted eighth overall in 1977 by the Seattle SuperSonics out of Illinois Wesleyan University, Sikma was named to the NBA's 1977-1978 All-Rookie team and went on to prove himself as a durable and versatile player. Among his main achievements, should be stressed his seven All-Star Game selections (from 1979 to 1985) and his championship ring won with the 1978-1979 Sonics, where Sikma teamed with talented players such as Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams and an aging Paul Silas. Sikma never failed to average double figures in points-per-game throughout his career, and after his stint with the Sonics, he maintained consistent numbers while playing with the Milwaukee Bucks in his final five seasons. For his career, Sikma scored 17,287 points and grabbed 10,816 rebounds.

Sikma somewhat lacked both leaping ability and physical strength,[citation needed] but had a tremendous shooting accuracy and good passing skills, especially for a man his size (6 ft 11 in, or 211 cm). During his career he bore the distinction of being an exceptionally high percentage free throw shooter for his size (84.9%).

Sikma later served as an assistant coach with the SuperSonics.

Team to be named Later:
C- Wilt Chamberlain
PF- Dave Cowens
SF-Scottie Pippen
SG- Pistol Pete
PG-Nate Archibold
_________________
SF-Billy Cunningham
SG-Darzen Petrovich
SG/SF-Jerry Stackhouse
PG Mookie Blaylock
PF Bill Lambier
PF/C Rasheed Wallace
C Jack Sikma

vancejohnson82
08-09-2007, 02:44 PM
Ok, sorry about the Oakley pick

I'll take JOHN STARKS

John Levell Starks (born August 10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_10), 1965 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965) in Tulsa, Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa%2C_Oklahoma)) is an American former basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball) player who gained fame while playing at shooting guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_guard) for the New York Knicks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Knicks) of the National Basketball Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association) in the 1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s). Starks was listed at 6'5" during his NBA playing career.
Starks bagged groceries for several years before playing basketball for several community colleges. He finished his collegiate career at Oklahoma State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_University_-_Stillwater). Although he was passed over in the draft, Starks worked his way into the NBA after stints in the Continental Basketball Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Basketball_Association) and the World Basketball League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Basketball_League). He was eventually signed by the Golden State Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors) in 1988, but left in 1990 to try out for the New York Knicks. In one practice, he tried to dunk on Knicks center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_%28basketball%29) Patrick Ewing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Ewing). Ewing threw him down and Starks twisted his knee. The team was not allowed to release him unless it healed by the end of December. When it didn't heal by that time, the Knicks could not release Starks, and thus kept him. As a result, Starks has on many occasions referred to Ewing as his saving grace. He eventually became the starting shooting guard, replacing Gerald Wilkins. Starks became a key player on the team and spent eight seasons in New York from 1990 to 1998. Starks was a participant in the 1992 NBA Slam Dunk Contest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest).
Starks was at the center of one of the most famous plays in Knick history. During a 1993 playoffs series against the Chicago Bulls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bulls), Starks was in the right corner of the court being closely guarded by B.J. Armstrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.J._Armstrong). Ewing came to set a screen for Starks, who faked to the left like he was going to use the pick, and then fiercely drove along the baseline and dunked over the much taller Horace Grant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Grant) as well as Michael Jordan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan).
One of the low points of Starks' career came in the 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993-94_NBA_season) NBA Finals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals) against the Houston Rockets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Rockets). The Knicks had taken a 3-2 lead into Game 6, and in the last second, Starks had the chance to sink a three point shot that would have won the Series. His shot was blocked by Rockets center Hakeem Olajuwon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Olajuwon). In Game 7, Starks shot 2-for-18 from the field, contributing to the Knicks' loss to the Rockets.
In 1995, Knicks coach Pat Riley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Riley) left the Knicks to go to the Miami Heat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Heat) after a dispute with then-General Manager Dave Checketts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Checketts). The Knicks later hired Don Nelson, resurrecting the tensions from Starks' first year in Golden State. However, Nelson was fired in the middle of his first season, and the Knicks replaced him with Assistant Coach Jeff Van Gundy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Gundy). With the addition of Allan Houston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Houston) in 1996, Starks became a mentor as Houston took his spot in the starting lineup. Starks continued to be a steady contributor off the bench that season, and in 1997, he received the NBA Sixth Man of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Sixth_Man_of_the_Year) award. Two years later, Starks was traded back to the Warriors, along with Chris Mills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mills) and Terry Cummings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Cummings), for Latrell Sprewell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latrell_Sprewell).
After his stint at Golden State, Starks played for the Bulls and Utah Jazz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Jazz) before retiring in 2002 with 10,829 career points. He currently works as an alumni and fan development official for the Knicks. In addition, he serves as a pre-and-post-game analyst on MSG Network’s home Knicks game coverage. His autobiography John Starks: My Life was released in 2004.
Starks' fiery intensity often led to emotional displays while on the court. Reggie Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Miller), star shooting guard for the Indiana Pacers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pacers), was often a provocateur and target of his ire.
Starks ranks 20th all-time in league career three-point field goals made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_three-point_field_goals_made_in_National_Basketball_Asso ciation_history), and is the Knicks' all-time leader in that category. He made 217 during the 1994-95 NBA season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994-95_NBA_season), breaking Louie Dampier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Dampier)'s single-season professional (NBA or ABA) record of 199 during the 1968-69 ABA season. Dennis Scott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Scott_%28basketball%29) broke Starks' record a year later with 267; it now belongs to Ray Allen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Allen), who made 269 during the 2005-06 NBA season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_NBA_season).


PLUS HE HAD THIS NASTY A$$ DUNK!!!


http://www.jordanextreme.com/photo16/9293PlayoffsG2JohnStarksDunkJordanHoraceGrant.jpg

JCMElway
08-09-2007, 07:34 PM
Killericon is on the clock for his final two selections. He has until 7 AM CST to make his picks.

Man-Goblin and Youcan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time.

Man-Goblin
08-10-2007, 04:58 PM
I take Ernest Maurice Vandeweghe...er Kiki.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/0105/20060105_035836_LookBack010606.jpg

Vandeweghe was drafted 11th overall in the 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980) NBA Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft) by the Dallas Mavericks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Mavericks), but refused to play for Dallas and demanded a trade. (For virtually the remainder of his career, he was subjected to boos whenever he played in Dallas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas%2C_Texas)). He got his wish, and was traded to the Nuggets on December 3rd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_3) of that same year. As a member of the Nuggets, Vandeweghe was twice selected to the NBA Western Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Conference_%28NBA%29) All-Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=All-Star_%28basketball%29&action=edit) team, in 1983 and 1984.
In the summer of 1984, Vandeweghe was traded to the Portland Trail Blazers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Trail_Blazers) in exchange for Calvin Natt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Natt), Wayne Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Cooper), Fat Lever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Lever), and a draft pick. Vandeweghe had several productive seasons in Portland, where he averaged nearly 25 points a game. He paired with Clyde Drexler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Drexler) to form a dynamic scoring duo. However, during the 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987)-1988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988) season, Vandeweghe suffered a back injury and lost his starting job to Jerome Kersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Kersey). He was traded the next year to the New York Knicks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Knicks) (where his father played his entire career); with whom he played for several years apart from half a season with the Los Angeles Clippers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Clippers) before retiring from the league after the 1992 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992)-1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993) season.

Man-Goblin
08-10-2007, 04:59 PM
THE team...

Flying Lithuanians
PG - Dennis Johnson
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale
C - Bob Lanier

G - Vinnie Johnson
PF - Shawn Kemp
G/F - Walter Davis
C - Joe Barry Carroll
PG - Chris Paul
F - Kiki Vandeweghe

Coach - Chuck Daly

Master___Pain
08-10-2007, 05:46 PM
I know it's out of turn, but I have about an hour left of being online before I'm out of the country for two weeks. GS needs a coach, so that's his last pick and I doubt Killer Icon is going to want my man, so here goes.

With my last selection Master Pain's Evil Counsel Selects

F/C Otis Thorpe
http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/thorpe_cchistory.jpg

Not a flashy player but was an accomplished scorer, good rebounder and gritty defender

* 18th in games played (1257)
* 20th in minutes played (39822)
* 58th in field goals (6872)
* 14th in field goal percentage (.546)
* 13th in offensive rebounds (3446)
* 20th in defensive rebounds (6924)
* 31st in total rebounds (10370)
* 10th in personal fouls (4146)
* 61st in points (17600)
* 35th in true shooting percentage (.584)

Was on the first rockets squad of the 90s that won the NBA Championship. Was traded to the Blazers for HOFer Clyde Drexler half way through the following season. Averaged 14 ppg and 8.2 rpg over his 17 year NBA career. Has over 17,000 points and 10,000 rebounds in his career.

Killericon
08-10-2007, 10:59 PM
With the last pick of the 12th round, GM Killericon of the Calgary Dinos Selects F Carlos Boozer. (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/career_stats.html)

http://www.carlosboozer.info/images/08.jpg

With the first pick of the 13th and Final round, GM Killericon of the Calgary Dinos selects G T.J. Ford (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tj_ford/index.html).

http://www.nba.com/media/act_tj_ford.jpg

Calgary Dinos

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9955/dinosoz9.png

Starting Lineup

C - Nate Thurmond (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thurmond_summary.html)
PF - Ben Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ben_wallace/)
SF - Dave DeBusschere (http://www.nba.com/history/players/debusschere_summary.html)
SG - Micheal Jordan (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_jordan.html)
PG - Jason Kidd (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jason_kidd/)

Coach - Pat Riley (http://www.nba.com/coachfile/pat_riley/)

Bench

C - Mark Eaton (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Mark_Eaton)
F - Paul Arizin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/arizin_summary.html)
F - Carlos Boozer (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/career_stats.html)
F - Joe Fulks (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Joe_Fulks)
F/G - George Yardley (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/George_Yardley)
G - Allan Houston (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allan_houston/index.html)
G - T.J. Ford (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tj_ford/index.html)

Killericon
08-10-2007, 11:36 PM
I wish I could've done better than Ford, but I just couldn't think of anyone.

Rshackleford
08-11-2007, 04:12 AM
In response to a previous question, yes, I drafted Larry Brown as my coach when I first took this team over.

JCMElway
08-11-2007, 12:08 PM
GSReylea is back on the clock until 10 PM CST.

Youcan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time. Phiback, just so you can finish off your picks because you must be pretty busy, you may make all three of your remaining selections at the same time.

JCMElway
08-12-2007, 01:31 AM
Man-Goblin is back on the clock until noon CST.

Youcan and GSReylea may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time. Phiback, just so you can finish off your picks because you must be pretty busy, you may make all three of your remaining selections at the same time.

JCMElway
08-12-2007, 08:16 PM
RShackleford is on the clock until 8 AM CST on Monday.

Youcan, Man-Goblin, and GSReylea may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time. Phiback, just so you can finish off your picks because you must be pretty busy, you may make all three of your remaining selections at the same time.

Rshackleford
08-13-2007, 04:29 AM
I will round things out with "The Dunking Dutchman", (C) Rik Smits.

Man-Goblin
08-13-2007, 11:06 AM
I need some more girth and a guy who can play the 4 or the 5, so I take...

F/C Brad Miller

http://kfba.net/etc/playerpics/42.jpg

After college Miller was signed by the Charlotte Hornets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans/Oklahoma_City_Hornets) as an undrafted free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent). He played for the Hornets for two seasons before signing with the Chicago Bulls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bulls) as a free agent. In February of 2002, he was traded by the Bulls with Ron Mercer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Mercer), Ron Artest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest) and Kevin Ollie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Ollie) to the Indiana Pacers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pacers) for Jalen Rose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalen_Rose), Travis Best (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Best), Norman Richardson, and a second-round draft pick. In Indiana he made his first NBA All-Star Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NBA_All-Star_Game) during the 2002-2003 season.
During the 2003 offseason, he was involved in a sign-and-trade with the Sacramento Kings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Kings). He was signed to a multi-year deal by Indiana and then traded to the Kings in exchange for Scot Pollard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scot_Pollard). In the same trade, the Kings sent Hidayet Turkoglu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidayet_Turkoglu) to San Antonio Spurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs), San Antonio traded Danny Ferry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Ferry) to Indiana and Indiana traded Ron Mercer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Mercer) to San Antonio. Miller made his second All-Star Game appearance during his first season with the Kings. While singing with the Kings Miller stated that "I wanted to stay with Indiana but my agent said that the money I could make with Sacramento was just too good to pass up and I would never get this kind of contract again."
While playing for the Chicago Bulls, on January 12, 2002, Miller gave a hard foul to Los Angeles Lakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers) center Shaquille O'Neal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal). O'Neal responded by swinging at the back of Miller's head, barely missing him.

THE team (final)...

Flying Lithuanians
PG - Dennis Johnson
SG - Jerry West
SF - Rick Barry
PF - Kevin McHale
C - Bob Lanier

G - Vinnie Johnson
PF - Shawn Kemp
G/F - Walter Davis
C - Joe Barry Carroll
PG - Chris Paul
F - Kiki Vandeweghe
F/C - Brad Miller

Coach - Chuck Daly

GSRelyea
08-13-2007, 05:43 PM
The Team to Be Named Later selects:

Dean Edwards Smith (born February 28, 1931) is a retired head coach of men’s college basketball. Originally from Emporia, Kansas, Smith has been called a “coaching legend” by the Basketball Hall of Fame. Smith is best known for his successful coaching tenure at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (“UNC”) for 36 years. Smith coached from 1961 to 1997 and retired as the NCAA Division I men's basketball coach with the most wins ever with 879 wins. This record was later surpassed by Bobby Knight in 2006. Smith has the 9th highest winning percentage of any men’s college basketball coach at 77.6.[1] During his time as head coach of UNC, the team won two national titles and appeared in 11 Final Fours.[2]

Smith is also known for running a clean program and having a high graduation rate for his players with 96.6% players going on to graduate.[3][4] While at UNC, Smith helped promote desegregation by recruiting UNC’s first African American scholarship player Charlie Scott and pushing for equal treatment for African Americans by local businesses.[5] Smith coached and worked with numerous individuals at UNC that went on to achieve notable success in basketball, as either players or coaches or both. Smith retired as head coach from UNC in 1997 saying that he was not able to give the team the same level of enthusiasm that he had had given it for years. Since retirement, Smith has used his influence to help out in various charitable ventures and political activities.

JCMElway
08-13-2007, 07:49 PM
Rhymesayers is on the clock until 6 AM CST on Tuesday.

Youcan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make two selections at any time. Phiback, just so you can finish off your picks because you must be pretty busy, you may make all three of your remaining selections at the same time.

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2007, 10:04 AM
Runnin & Gunnin' needs a coach. For that task, I choose Jack Ramsay, with a career record of 864-783 (.525). He had 1 NBA Finals Win, and is in the HOF.

JCMElway
08-15-2007, 01:39 AM
I'm making the final pick for Freak 6. Again, if Freak wants to replace Strickland, Moe, or this guy he may feel free to do so.

This guy will add a little defensive punch to this team while giving Freak the run N gun offense that he likes. Freak also prefers modern day players to the old timers, so there you are.

Josh Smith, F, Atlanta.

6'9", 230

True, it's another forward on a team that already has 5 of them. However, Smith is more athletic than most of his forwards, can play 3, 4, or 5 on this squad, and will be brought in on key defensive situations.

Smith declared for the 2004 NBA Draft, foregoing a career at Indiana University. He was selected by the Atlanta Hawks with the 17th overall pick in the 2004 NBA Draft.

Smith won the NBA Slam Dunk Contest his rookie year during the 2005 NBA All-Star Weekend. He averaged 9.7 points, 6.2 rebounds and 1.95 blocks per game for the 2004-2005 season and was selected to the NBA All-Rookie Second Team. For the 2005-06 season, Smith averaged 2.25 blocks per game, ranking seventh in the NBA.

After the NBA All-Star Weekend, Smith would continue his steady development. He finished 2nd in the NBA in total blocks, 4th in blocks per game and averaged 15.0 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.1 apg, 3.1 bpg and 1.0 spg after the All-Star break and his contribution helped the Hawks double their win total of 13 wins from the previous season to finish 26-56.

On March 3, 2007, Smith broke the 500 block mark, making him the youngest player to do so in NBA history.[2]

Smith ended the 2006-2007 with 16.4 points per game, 8.6 rebounds per game, 3.3 assists, 1.4 steals and 2.9 blocks, dramatically improving on his previous season's stats. Leading the Hawk's after Joe Johnson's season ending injury, Smith produced a career high 32 points and 19 rebounds in Johnson's absence.

JCMElway
08-15-2007, 01:42 AM
OK, we're all caught up except for Phibacka and one pick by youcan.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

Youcan may make one selection at any time.


To keep things moving Angryllama may also select at any time. Phibacka and angryllama will be off the clock at 3 PM cst.

JCMElway
08-16-2007, 01:38 AM
OK, two picks going down with one shot. Those Cheap Bastards select:

Don Buse, PG, Pacers, Suns

My reasons for hunting down a guy like Buse were ball handling (backup to Stockton,) shooting off the bench (good 3 pt FG%,) and DEFENSE. Buse was named to the first team all Defensive team six times.

A 6'4" guard from the University of Evansville, Buse played 13 seasons (1972–1985) in the American Basketball Association and National Basketball Association as a member of the Indiana Pacers, the Phoenix Suns, the Portland Trail Blazers, and the Kansas City Kings. Buse was known for his dependable ball-handling, tight defense, and clutch-shooting, and he appeared in two All-Star games (one in the ABA in 1976; one in the NBA in 1977) during the course of his career. His best season occurred in 1975–76, when he led the ABA in both steals per game (4.12) and assists per game (8.2) while also contributing a career high 12.5 points per game. In the next season, his first in the NBA, Buse again led all players in steals per game (3.47) and assists per game (8.5).

And another article about the underrated Buse.....

Cleveland – In a gathering of NBA players, Indiana’s Don Buse probably would be lost in a crowd of three. To the basketball buff, he is recognizable, but seldom eye-catching.

However, the more you become a Buse-watcher, the more you appreciate the 6-4 guard. The 10-year veteran from Evansville is having his best year as a pro, and he’s undoubtedly enjoying it.

Pacers Coach Jack McKinney has given him a license to take three-point shots. Buse has responded by leading the NBA in three-pointers with 58 though March 1.

“I have confidence with the shot,” said the 31-year-old sharpshooter. “Jack has given me that shot and if I miss, I know I’m not going to get chewed out.”

Buse is averaging more than 10 points per game, but probably more important is his ability to protect the basketball. Among the ball-handling guards, who control the ball around 75 percent of the time, Buse made just 71 turnovers though 58 to games lead the NBA.

Buse also plays tough defense, usually assigned to the opponent’s best backcourt scorer, but he doesn’t want to be looked on as a specialist.

“Don is very important to us,” said McKinney. “It’s the little things he does, things you don’t notice – handling the ball, setting up the offense, making steals, and disrupting the other team’s offense.

“He isn’t real fast or quick, he doesn’t jump real high, but he sure is smart,” added Detroit rookie guard Isiah Thomas. “Buse is very aware of what is happening on the floor.”

George McGinnis is another Buse booster. “Boo is the guy we always count on,” said the Pacers Big Mac. “He hasn’t lost his touch on the threes. I just can’t think of many other point guards doing the job Boo is doing for us.”

Buse said of his contributions, “I don’t like the role of just a defensive player. I feel I contribute other things. In the past, I’ve passed up a lot of shots, but I’m looking for my shot now.

“I’m enjoying it this season. I feel good and, maybe, I’ll want to play two more years. I’m on the last year of my contract.

“I’d like to stay with Indiana and, if I had my choice I’d like to sign something before the season ends. I’m not going to try to break the bank. If I continue to have the season I’m having, there might be a team interested in me.”

Buse was drafted by the Virginia Squires of the old ABA in 1972. The Squires sold his rights to the Pacers and he played four years with Indiana in the ABA, plus one in the NBA, before being traded to the Phoenix.

The Suns traded him back to Indiana in 1980 and he has been a big part of the Pacers’ success ever since.

This season, McKinney had Buse slotted as the third guard. However, when the Pacers played an exhibition game at Buse’s alma mater as Evansville, he started in the place of Johnny Davis. Buse has started every game since.

If the NBA ever gets around to naming an all-underrated team, Buse probably will be the captain.

JCMElway
08-16-2007, 01:43 AM
And A.L. will like this pick.

BobHorry5 selects, as their coach:

Avery Johnson, Dallas Mavericks

After spending the 2003-2004 season playing with the Golden State Warriors, Johnson signed as a player-coach with the Dallas Mavericks under Don Nelson. Johnson had played under Nelson from 2001-2003, and it was understood from the beginning that Johnson was being groomed to eventually succeed Nelson as head coach. On October 28, 2004, Johnson retired from playing to concentrate full-time on coaching, and his transition from assistant to head coach came five months later on March 19, 2005.

Under Johnson, the Mavericks closed out the 2004-2005 season with a 16-2 run and a first-round playoff victory over the Houston Rockets, before bowing out to the Phoenix Suns in the second round of the playoffs. Johnson was named the April 2005 NBA Coach of the Month, only one month after becoming a head coach for the first time.

The 2005-2006 season was even more successful for Johnson and was marked by a series of milestones. In November 2005 Johnson again won the NBA Coach of the Month award (his second and second consecutive, following his award from April the previous season), making him the first NBA coach to win the award in his first two months as a head coach. On January 28, 2006, when the Dallas Mavericks defeated the Utah Jazz, Johnson's record as coach reached 50-12, making Johnson the fastest coach to reach 50 wins. In February 2006, he was chosen to coach the 2006 NBA All-Star team for the Western Conference. On March 15, 2006, Johnson set the record for most wins over the course of a coach's first 82 games (the duration of a full season), with 66 wins over the span. Although Johnson ultimately led the Mavericks to the second-best record in the Western Conference, the team entered the playoffs as the fourth seed in the west, due to the structure of the 2006 NBA Playoffs seeding.

In April 2006, Johnson was rewarded for this success with the 2006 NBA Coach of the Year Award.

In June 2006, after defeating the Memphis Grizzlies, the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, and the Phoenix Suns in the first three rounds of the playoffs, Johnson led the Dallas Mavericks to their first ever NBA Finals appearance. However, the Mavs were defeated in the series by the Miami Heat, losing 4 straight after winning the first two games.

On December 31, 2006, Johnson became the fastest head coach to win 100 games by defeating the Denver Nuggets.

JCMElway
08-16-2007, 01:45 AM
AZBroncfan is on the clock. He has until 2 PM CST to select.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

Youcan and Angryllama may make one selection at any time.

JCMElway
08-17-2007, 02:42 AM
Ludo21 is on the clock. He has until 2 PM CST to select.

Azbroncfan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

Youcan and Angryllama may make one selection at any time.

ludo21
08-17-2007, 11:42 AM
Dikembe Mutombo available??

if not ill take jermain o neal... and if he is taken ill take... Tayshaun Prince

JCMElway
08-17-2007, 01:13 PM
All right, Ludo takes a nice looooong defenser to come off the bench in Tayshaun. Well done!

VJ82 is on the clock. He has until 2 AM CST to select.

Azbroncfan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

Youcan and Angryllama may make one selection at any time.

epicSocialism4tw
08-17-2007, 07:16 PM
I'm taking a swing here with:

Anfernee Hardaway.

azbroncfan
08-17-2007, 11:07 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/_photos/2004-11-21-inside-washingto.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40785000/jpg/_40785149_tomjanovich270gi.jpg

Rudy T to fill the coaching vacancy.

JCMElway
08-20-2007, 12:24 AM
OK, the last picks here!

Eddie Mac and Youcandoit are on the clock. He has until 2 PM CST to select.

Eddie Mac and VJ82 may make one selection at any time.

Youcandoit may make two selections at any time.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

JCMElway
08-21-2007, 01:05 AM
Ok, I'll check back here in a day or so, see if anyone has got there picks in yet....

Rshackleford
08-22-2007, 03:51 AM
I wouldn't have picked Stephon Marbury if I had known he was going to defend Michael Vick and endorse dogfighting. What a knob.

JCMElway
08-22-2007, 10:25 PM
I wouldn't have picked Stephon Marbury if I had known he was going to defend Michael Vick and endorse dogfighting. What a knob.

You can drop him and pick up someone else.

Rshackleford
08-24-2007, 01:43 AM
no, that's cool, it wouldn't be fair to everyone else. I was just venting

eddie mac
08-24-2007, 11:26 PM
With my last pick I take Antoine Walker F Boston/Dallas/Atlanta/Miami

The Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
C George Mikan
G Oscar Robertson
G Earl Monroe
F/C Dolph Schayes
C Walt Bellamy
G Mark Price
F Chet Walker
G KC Jones
F/G Tom Heinsohn
F Antoine Walker
HC John Kundla

JCMElway
08-27-2007, 09:28 PM
Hey all, I'm going to get the evaluation system going shortly. Watch for the PM.....

RhymesayersDU
08-27-2007, 09:57 PM
Runnin' & Gunnin':

Starting 5:
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Wes Unseld
SF - Adrian Dantley
SG - Clyde Drexler
PG - LeBron James

Bench:
C - Marcus Camby
PF - Spencer Haywood
F/G - Michael Cooper
SG - Sam Jones
PG - Calvin Murphy
F - Shawn Marion
PG - Gail Goodrich

COACH: Jack Ramsay

epicSocialism4tw
08-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Eddie Mac...you should be ashamed for selecting the Truffle Shuffle.

Master___Pain
08-28-2007, 06:42 PM
So....is thing thing finally over?

JCMElway
08-29-2007, 08:06 PM
Sorry I've been so busy everyone. It's time for the evaluation phase. Everyone will rate all the other teams in the league except their own on a scale of 15 to 1. The best team gets a 15. The worst gets 1. I don't believe everyone will vote, so I'll make an average from everyone who has voted. I'll post everyone's roster tonight.

JCM

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2007, 08:27 PM
Thanks for the work on this thread, JCM. Good job.

Master___Pain
08-29-2007, 08:27 PM
Sorry I've been so busy everyone. It's time for the evaluation phase. Everyone will rate all the other teams in the league except their own on a scale of 15 to 1. The best team gets a 15. The worst gets 1. I don't believe everyone will vote, so I'll make an average from everyone who has voted. I'll post everyone's roster tonight.

JCM

So, what exactly is the criteria? Or is this pretty much subjective? Are we voting in this thread or via PM?

JCMElway
08-29-2007, 11:27 PM
You can put your votes up here or via PM. Your choice. And yes, it's pretty subjective. Just what teams you think would be the best or the worst of the lot.

JCMElway
08-29-2007, 11:32 PM
Hey, I just went into the member contact area to see if Freak6 ever came back, but he's NOT EVEN LISTED THERE. It's like he never existed at all.......

Remind me not to Make Taco mad.......

JCMElway
08-29-2007, 11:52 PM
Here are the teams in draft order. My team can be seen in my sig. Also folks, you may take a post to present your team and say why you think they are a great squad. We'll see how many people we can get to vote.

Killericon

Starting 5:
C - Ben Wallace
PF - Nate Thurmond
SF - Dave Debusschere
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Jason Kidd

Bench:
PG: TJ Ford
SG: Allan Houston
PF: Paul Azirin
PF: Carlos Boozer
SF: George Yardley
C: Mark Eaton


COACH: Pat Riley


GSReylea

Starting 5:
C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Dave Cowens
SF - Scottie Pippen
SG - Pete Maravich
PG - Nate Archibald

Bench:
G: Mookie Blaylock
G: Jerry Stackhouse
F: Billy Cunningham
F: Drazen Petrovich
F: Rasheed Wallace
C: Bill Laimbeer
C: Jack Sikma

COACH: Dean Smith


Master Pain

Starting 5:
C - Dan Issel
PF - Dominique Wilkins
SF - Artis Gilmore
SG - Reggie Miller
PG - Magic Johnson

Bench:
G: Eddie Jones
G: Fat Lever
F: Glen Rice
F: David Thompson
F/C: Larry Nance
F/C: Otis Thorpe
C: Tom Chambers

COACH: Red Holzman


Man-Goblin

Starting 5:
C - Bob Lanier
PF - Kevin McHale
SF - Rick Barry
SG - Jerry West
PG - Dennis Johnson

Bench:
G: Vinnie Johnson
G: Chris Paul
G/F: Walter Davis
F: Kiki Vandeweghe
F/C: Shawn Kemp
C: Joe Barry Carroll
C: Brad Miller

COACH: Chuck Daly


R Shackleford

Starting 5:
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
PF - Charles Barkley
SF - Alex English
SG - Joe Dumars
PG - Kevin Johnson

Bench:
G: Tony Parker
G: Stephon Marbury
F: Danny Manning
F: Derrick Coleman
F: Michael Finley
C: Brad Daugherty
C: Rik Smits


Coach:Larry Brown

Runnin' & Gunnin':

Starting 5:
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Wes Unseld
SF - Adrian Dantley
SG - Clyde Drexler
PG - LeBron James

Bench:
C - Marcus Camby
PF - Spencer Haywood
F/G - Michael Cooper
SG - Sam Jones
PG - Calvin Murphy
F - Shawn Marion
PG - Gail Goodrich

COACH: Jack Ramsay


Freak6

Starting 5:
C - Yao Ming
PF - Bob McAdoo
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Kobe Bryant
PG - Allen Iverson

Bench:
G: Chauncey Billups
G: Rod Strickland
G/F: Shareef Abdur Raheem
F: Josh Smith
F: Paul Pierce
F: Elton Brand
C: Robert Parrish

COACH: Doug Moe


Phibacka

Starting 5:
C - Tim Duncan
PF - Tracy McGrady
SF - James Worth
SG - Dave Bing
PG - Dwayne Wade

Bench:
G: Baron Davis
G: Mark Jackson
F/C: Jermaine O'Neal
C: Aryvidas Sabonis
Phibacka may make three selections at any time

COACH: Don Nelson


Angryllama

Starting 5:
C - Bill Russell
PF - Kevin Garnett
SF - Dirk Novitzky
SG - Bill Sharman
PG - Bob Cousy

Bench:
G: Rolando Blackmon
G: Anfernee Hardaway
G: Kevin Porter
F: Mark Aguirre
F/C: George McGinnis
C: Willis Reed
C: Mel Daniels

COACH: Red Auerbach


JCMElway

Starting 5:
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
PF - Jerry Lucas
SF - Bob Petit
SG - Gilbert Arenas
PG - John Stockton

Bench:
PG/SG: Hal Greer
SG: Hank Luisetti
PG: Don Buse
SG/SF: Bobby Jones
SG/SF/PF/C: Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson
SF/PF: Bob Horry
C: Elmore Smith

COACH: Greg Popovitch

BobHorry5

Starting 5:
C - Moses Malone
PF - Bill Walton
SF - Ray Allen
SG - John Havlicek
PG - Moe Cheeks

Bench:
G: Steve Kerr
G/F: Chuck Person
F: Dale Ellis
F/C: Charles Oakley
F/C: Lamar Odom
C: Dikembe Mutumbo
C: Vlade Divac

COACH: Avery Johnson

AZBroncfan

Starting 5:
C - David Robinson
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Chris Mullin
SG - Mitch Richmond
PG - Gary Payton

Bench:
G: Tim Hardaway
G: Sidney Moncrief
G/F: Jerry Sloan
G/F: Detlef Schrempf
F/C: Chris Webber
C/F: Ralph Sampson
C: Dwight Howard

COACH: Rudy Tomjonavich


Ludo

Starting 5:
C - Greg Oden
PF - Amare Stoudemire
SF - Carmello Anthony
SG - Walt Frazier
PG - Steve Nash

Bench:
G: Jeff Hornacek
G: Sam Cassel
G: Leandro Barbosa
G: Elliot "Socks" Perry
G/F: Paul Westphal
F: Tayshaun Prince
F/C: Connie Hawkins

COACH: Mike Shanahan


VanceJohnson82

Starting 5:
C - Alonzo Morning
PF - George Gervin
SF - Grant Hill
SG - Bernard King
PG - Isiah Thomas

Bench:
G: Maurice Lucas
G: World B. Free
G: Mugsy Bogues
G: John Starks
F: Ron Artest
F: Dennis Rodman
C: Emeka Okafor

COACH: Paul Silas


Eddie Mac

Starting 5:
C - George Mikan
PF - Elvin Hayes
SF - Julius Erving
SG - Oscar Robertson
PG - Earl Monroe

Bench:
G: Mark Price
G: KC Jones
G/F: Chet Walker
F/G: Tom Heinsohn
F: Antoine Walker
F/C: Dolph Schayes
C: Walt Bellamy

COACH: John Kundla


Youcandoit

Starting 5:
C - Patrick Ewing
PF - Horace Grant
SF - Elgin Baylor
SG - Vince Carter
PG - Lenny Wilkens

Bench:
G: Manu Ginobli
G: Bruce Bowen
F: Chris Bosh
F: Buck Williams
F: Boris Diaw
Youcandoit may select two additional players at any time

COACH: Phil Jackson

Killericon
08-30-2007, 05:03 AM
Alright, I'll have my rankings up in a bit.

eddie mac
08-30-2007, 09:25 AM
Eddie Mac...you should be ashamed for selecting the Truffle Shuffle.

Never even heard of him:giggle:

You have to remember that my NBA knowledge doesn't go beyond NBA.com's 50 greatest ever players.;D

vancejohnson82
08-30-2007, 05:41 PM
i need a coach that can handle these bad attitudes

PAUL SILAS

JCMElway
08-30-2007, 05:44 PM
Well done VJ82, well done.

epicSocialism4tw
08-30-2007, 06:26 PM
Here's another way to look at it.

Each of these teams are in a tournament for the all-time great championship. Based on coach, system, and players, how does it play out? Who wins the championship? Why do they win it? Who wins tournament MVP (their team has to win)? Who wins other awards?

Here's how I think that it plays out...

Divided into two conferences and seeded according to strength, here are my scenarios.

Seeding:

West:
1. Eddie Mac
2. AZBroncofan
3. Man- Goblin
4. JCM
5. RShack
6. Phibacka
7. VanceJohnson
8. Bye

East:
1. Freak6
2. Biochemnerd Parade
3. Master Pain
4. GSRelyea
5. Runnin' Gunnin'
6. BobHorry
7. Ludo
8. Youcandoit

JCMElway
08-30-2007, 06:58 PM
Wow, this was REALLY hard. There is so much talent on every roster. I believe that teams 15-9 are extremelly close. To seperate these teams was to really split hairs and nitpick at the slightest deficiency. Everyone did great work.

My rankings:

15. Angryllama -- A well balanced roster with scorers, defenders, 3 point shooters, and distributors all set to accomplish their task. Best coach of all time certainly helps. Well thought out.

14. Killericon -- Jordan automatically make this team top 5, but I'm not a believer in Houson or Ford off the bench. Good coach. A well planned team.

13. AZBroncfan -- Another team with great balance. My only complaint is Ritchmond as a starter on an all time team. (I'm really splitting hairs here, but had to find some reason to rank them one above or below the other.)

12. GSReylea -- Nice front court and good scorers. Good balance of offense and defense. Dean Smith never coached in the pros. If I were to take a coach from the college ranks I would have taken Wooden.

11. Rhymesayers -- I'm not sold on LeBron as a all time great yet, but this team is top 5 for sure. Also, this team does not have a PG who really distributes the ball.

10. Master Pain -- Issel will get abused at C. Apart from Gilmore who will play defense? You'll score a ton though. MP and BobHorry5 would have some manaiacal games.

9. BobHorry5-- This team will light it up from the outside, but where's the defense?

8. R Shack -- Great starting 5, but I'm not a believer in Marbury, Manning, Coleman, or Finley as all time greats.

7. VanceJohnson82 -- I like this team, but Hill never fulfilled his potential, there are better C in this league besides Mourning, and WAY too many attitudes to keep team cohesion, Paul Silas or no Paul Silas.

6. Man-Goblin -- I like Barry and West. Microwave is a great 6th man.

5. Eddie Mac -- Some decent scorers, but Mikan may get eaten up by bigger middle men. And not a lot of D on this team.

4. Youcandoit -- Missing two roster players hurts depth.

3. Freak6 -- No defense!

2. Phibacka -- Decent starting 5, but missing 3 players on the bench will hurt.

1. Ludo -- Too many guards and not enough big men on the bench, Oden will get abused by the all time great centers, and the other coachs will be able to victimize Shanny's inexperience

JCMElway
08-30-2007, 07:24 PM
The defense for my team:

My team is well balanced with attention given to scoring, assits, 3 pt shooting, rebounding, blocks, and DEFENSE. Every player will know his role and execute it to perfection under popovitch. Who knows how many rings Pop will have when it's all said and done?

--No one will out rebound my team.

--No team will out-scrap or out-work my team. I also chose guys that have a history of having good character, so they will blend together as a unit quickly.

--My team will be very hard to score on with the great defenders on the team and Popovitch's commitment to defense.

C - Hakeem Olajuwon -- 50 greatest, 9 all time defensive selections, future hall of famer, All time blocks leader, 11th all time total rebounds
PF - Jerry Lucas -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, 4th all time RPG
SF - Bob Petit -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, 3rd all time RPG, 6th all time PPG
SG - Gilbert Arenas -- Great 3 pt shooter, 20th all time PPG
PG - John Stockton -- Future hall of famer, most assists all time, 5 all defensive teams

Bench:
PG/SG: Hal Greer -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, scoring off the bench
SG: Hank Luisetti -- 2nd best player all time pre 1950, good scorer.
PG: Don Buse -- 6 time all defensive team selection, good assist numbers to back up Stockton
SG/SF: Bobby Jones -- 11 time all defensive team selection
SG/SF/PF/C: Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson --Great defender, great scorer, great dunker, and versatile, 2 all defensive teams (Would have had more, but they started doing the all defensive selections at the end of his career.) Could guard any player on the floor.
SF/PF: Bob Horry -- Big shot Bob, will nail the big 3 in crunch time
C: Elmore Smith -- 2.9 blocks per game, 5th best all time

COACH: Greg Popovitch -- Three time NBA champ

JCMElway
09-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Here is another set of rankings from someone who PMed me.

15:Eddie Mac -- 20
14:Angrylama -- 29
13:AZ Bronco -- 26
12:JCM Elway -- 12
11:ManGoblin -- 17
10:Master Pain -- 20
9:Running and gunning -- 20
8:GSReylea -- 20
7:BobHorry -- 16
6:Vance Johnson82 -- 13
5: phibacka -- 7
4:Killericon -- 18
3:Freak6 -- 6
2:Ludo -- 3
1:YouCandoit -- 5


And here are the current standings. I have averaged everyone who has two rankings done on their team.

1. Angrylama -- 14.5
2. AZ Bronco -- 13
3. JCMElway -- 12
4. Eddie Mac -- 10
5. Master Pain -- 10
6. Running and gunning -- 10
7. GSReylea -- 10
8. Killericon -- 9
9. ManGoblin -- 8.5
10. Rshack -- 8
11. BobHorry -- 8
12. Vance Johnson82 -- 6.5
13. phibacka -- 3.5
14. Freak6 -- 3
15. YouCandoit -- 2.5
16. Ludo -- 1.5

azbroncfan
09-02-2007, 10:21 PM
Lets do as Llama suggested and do a brackett tournament and you have to argue against the other team as to why your team should move on.

JCMElway
09-03-2007, 03:17 PM
Lets do as Llama suggested and do a brackett tournament and you have to argue against the other team as to why your team should move on.

We can do that AZ, but here is my concern. We don't have enough people that are still interested in this process to participate to make it worth our while. I only know of about five of us that are still checking this thread with any regularity. That's going to make it tough to get any kind of cohesive judging process rolling. If we can get half of us (eight participants) involved let's do it. Otherwise it would be pointless. We can already say that four of us are interested (I can vouch for Bobhorry here.) If four more guys step up, then we are a go. And to be involved in this type of process i need everyone to chime in and say they want to be involved. Anyone who does not come on here and say they want to be in the tournament will not be included. A simple "I'm in" will suffice.

First we have to rank the teams to get them in the brackets. Let's get 2 or 3 more rankings and that will be the order of the bracket. Once we have the teams ranked we'll have two brackets with the odd numbered teams in one bracket and the even numbered teams in another. The two teams can post their case as to why they would be the other team and then everyone gets a vote as to which teams would beat which. And that process would repeatr itself in the next round, up to the finals.

Ultimately, I think my version of evaluation is going to work better because the bracket method is going to take some work and effort. With the dwindling number of participants here, ramping up the involvement to the process may be difficult. Anyway, if we get four more owners to say they will participate, we're a go for the bracket method.

epicSocialism4tw
09-03-2007, 03:54 PM
We can do that AZ, but here is my concern. We don't have enough people that are still interested in this process to participate to make it worth our while. I only know of about five of us that are still checking this thread with any regularity. That's going to make it tough to get any kind of cohesive judging process rolling. If we can get half of us (eight participants) involved let's do it. Otherwise it would be pointless. We can already say that four of us are interested (I can vouch for Bobhorry here.) If four more guys step up, then we are a go. And to be involved in this type of process i need everyone to chime in and say they want to be involved. Anyone who does not come on here and say they want to be in the tournament will not be included. A simple "I'm in" will suffice.

First we have to rank the teams to get them in the brackets. Let's get 2 or 3 more rankings and that will be the order of the bracket. Once we have the teams ranked we'll have two brackets with the odd numbered teams in one bracket and the even numbered teams in another. The two teams can post their case as to why they would be the other team and then everyone gets a vote as to which teams would beat which. And that process would repeatr itself in the next round, up to the finals.

Ultimately, I think my version of evaluation is going to work better because the bracket method is going to take some work and effort. With the dwindling number of participants here, ramping up the involvement to the process may be difficult. Anyway, if we get four more owners to say they will participate, we're a go for the bracket method.

Lets do your method first to rank the teams, then we can seed them accordingly and have a theoretical competition where we can talk individual matchups and systems. Ultimately we can have an overall champion.

RhymesayersDU
09-03-2007, 05:03 PM
The tournament sounds fun... I'm still interested in this thread, but I'll admit, I don't even know what to say in judging other people's teams. I mean, everybody has a set of great players. The only poor team is Ludo's, everybody else has so many strengths, it's like there's a 11-way tie for first.

But I'll keep checking in on this thread, I like reading people's analysis' of my team and the others.

JCMElway
09-03-2007, 05:24 PM
C'mon Rhyme, sack up and rate these teams! I'm sure you won't hurt anyone's feelings.......

RhymesayersDU
09-03-2007, 05:34 PM
C'mon Rhyme, sack up and rate these teams! I'm sure you won't hurt anyone's feelings.......

It's not a feelings issue. Hell, it's not even an issue about having to give llama props on his squad, when him and I butt heads on many hoops issues. The issue is everybody outside of Ludo has an unbelievable squad. But I'll take another look and see what I can come up with.

epicSocialism4tw
09-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Outside of the first couple of rounds in the actual draft, this should be the fun part of the deal.

epicSocialism4tw
09-03-2007, 06:15 PM
1. Eddie Mac - 15pts
2. Freak 6 - 14
3. JCMElway - 13
4. AZBronco - 12
5. Killericon - 11
6. ManGoblin - 10
7. GSRelyea - 9
8. RShack - 8
9. Runnin' & Gunnin' - 7
10. BobHorry - 6
11. Master Pain - 5
12. phibacka - 4
13. VanceJohnson82 - 3
14. YouCandoit - 2
15. Ludo - 1

JCMElway
09-03-2007, 07:04 PM
Current gross scores:

A.L - 15, 14
Eddie Mac - 15, 15, 5
Freak 6 - 14, 3, 3
JCMElway - 13, 12
AZBronco - 12, 13, 13
Killericon - 11, 14, 4
ManGoblin - 10, 6, 11
GSRelyea - 9, 12, 8
RShack - 8, 8
Runnin' & Gunnin' - 7, 11, 9
BobHorry - 6, 9, 7
Master Pain - 5 10, 10
phibacka - 4, 2, 7
VanceJohnson82 - 3, 7, 6
YouCandoit - 2, 4, 1
Ludo - 1, 2, 1

JCMElway
09-03-2007, 07:12 PM
Updated standings:

1. A.L - 14.5
2. AZBronco - 12.7
3. JCMElway - 12.5
4. Eddie Mac - 11.6
5. Killericon - 9.7
6. GSRelyea - 9.7
7. ManGoblin - 9
8. Runnin' & Gunnin' - 9
9. Master Pain - 8.3
10. RShack - 8
11. BobHorry - 7.3
12. Freak 6 - 6.7
13. phibacka - 4.3
14. VanceJohnson82 - 5.3
15. YouCandoit - 1.6
16. Ludo - 1.3

Master___Pain
09-04-2007, 12:14 PM
Wow, this was REALLY hard. There is so much talent on every roster. I believe that teams 15-9 are extremelly close. To seperate these teams was to really split hairs and nitpick at the slightest deficiency. Everyone did great work.

My rankings:

10. Master Pain -- Issel will get abused at C. Apart from Gilmore who will play defense? You'll score a ton though. MP and BobHorry5 would have some manaiacal games.



Issel is not my starting C, the 7 foot shot blocker Artis Gilmore is. I've got plenty of defense in Gilmore, Wilkins, Magic, Eddie Jones, Otis Thorpe, Lever and Nance. While defense is certainly my weakest area, it's not quite as bad as you made it out to be.

Master Pain

Starting 5:
PF - Dan Issel
SF - Dominique Wilkins
C - Artis Gilmore
SG - Reggie Miller
PG - Magic Johnson

Bench:
G: Eddie Jones
G: Fat Lever
F: Glen Rice
F: David Thompson
F/C: Larry Nance
F/C: Otis Thorpe
C: Tom Chambers

COACH: Red Holzman

vancejohnson82
09-04-2007, 02:46 PM
I think my team is being seriously underestimated

JMCElway, do you really think your team is going to outhustle mine out there?

I built my team around hte kind of teams that have been winning championships the last few years....boring, defensive, rebounding teams

my guys are getting the shaft here

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2007, 03:04 PM
I think my team is being seriously underestimated

JMCElway, do you really think your team is going to outhustle mine out there?

I built my team around hte kind of teams that have been winning championships the last few years....boring, defensive, rebounding teams

my guys are getting the shaft here

Well, you can rank them too.

Same goes for you, Master Pain.

vancejohnson82
09-04-2007, 04:16 PM
Here Goes nothing:

1. GSReylea
2. KillerIcon
3. EddieMac
4. AngryLlama
5. JCMELWAY
6. Freak6
7. VanceJohnson
8. Runnin Gunnin
9. PhiBacka
10. MasterPain
11. Man-gobln
12. AZBRONCO
13. YouCanDoIt
14. RShack
15. BobHorry5
16. Ludo

I'll try and break them down a little bit later

Master___Pain
09-04-2007, 04:35 PM
Well, you can rank them too.

Same goes for you, Master Pain.

Working on it...

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2007, 04:57 PM
Working on it...

:thumbsup:

JCMElway
09-04-2007, 06:33 PM
Nice rankings guys. New point tallies will go up when MP is done.

JCMElway
09-04-2007, 07:08 PM
I think my team is being seriously underestimated

JMCElway, do you really think your team is going to outhustle mine out there?

I built my team around hte kind of teams that have been winning championships the last few years....boring, defensive, rebounding teams

my guys are getting the shaft here

If you think they are getting a shaft break down your team and say why they are one of the better teams in this draft. I di, matter of fact I'm going to bump the defense for my team post to keep it fresh for anyone who votes.

BTW, my team is also a rebounding, defensive, boring team. And to rank all of these teams was very hard. Any one of these 16 teams has a great shot to beat any of the other teams here. I do like your team , it just comes down to splitting hairs

JCMElway
09-04-2007, 07:09 PM
BUMP

The defense for my team:

My team is well balanced with attention given to scoring, assits, 3 pt shooting, rebounding, blocks, and DEFENSE. Every player will know his role and execute it to perfection under popovitch. Who knows how many rings Pop will have when it's all said and done?

--No one will out rebound my team.

--No team will out-scrap or out-work my team. I also chose guys that have a history of having good character, so they will blend together as a unit quickly.

--My team will be very hard to score on with the great defenders on the team and Popovitch's commitment to defense.

C - Hakeem Olajuwon -- 50 greatest, 9 all time defensive selections, future hall of famer, All time blocks leader, 11th all time total rebounds
PF - Jerry Lucas -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, 4th all time RPG
SF - Bob Petit -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, 3rd all time RPG, 6th all time PPG
SG - Gilbert Arenas -- Great 3 pt shooter, 20th all time PPG
PG - John Stockton -- Future hall of famer, most assists all time, 5 all defensive teams

Bench:
PG/SG: Hal Greer -- 50 greatest, hall of famer, scoring off the bench, would have many 3's, 3 pt line developed after his time
SG: Hank Luisetti -- 2nd best player all time pre 1950, good scorer, would have many 3's, 3 pt line developed after his time
PG: Don Buse -- 6 time all defensive team selection, good assist numbers to back up Stockton, good 3 pt shooter
SG/SF: Bobby Jones -- 11 time all defensive team selection
SG/SF/PF/C: Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson --Great defender, great scorer, great dunker, and versatile, 2 all defensive teams (Would have had more, but they started doing the all defensive selections at the end of his career.) Could guard any player on the floor.
SF/PF: Bob Horry -- Big shot Bob, will nail the big 3 in crunch time
C: Elmore Smith -- 2.9 blocks per game, 5th best all time

COACH: Greg Popovitch -- Three time NBA champ

Killericon
09-05-2007, 06:57 AM
Calgary Dinos

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9955/dinosoz9.png

Starting Lineup

C - Nate Thurmond (http://www.nba.com/history/players/thurmond_summary.html)
PF - Ben Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ben_wallace/)
SF - Dave DeBusschere (http://www.nba.com/history/players/debusschere_summary.html)
SG - Micheal Jordan (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_jordan.html)
PG - Jason Kidd (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jason_kidd/)

Coach - Pat Riley (http://www.nba.com/coachfile/pat_riley/)

Bench

C - Mark Eaton (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Mark_Eaton)
F - Paul Arizin (http://www.nba.com/history/players/arizin_summary.html)
F - Carlos Boozer (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/career_stats.html)
F - Joe Fulks (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Joe_Fulks)
F/G - George Yardley (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/George_Yardley)
G - Allan Houston (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allan_houston/index.html)
G - T.J. Ford (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tj_ford/index.html)

Starting Lineup:

Jordan needs no summary. Offensively, Kidd will feed it to him on the perimeter, and to Thurmond inside. However, the obvious strength of this team is on defense. Kidd may be the best defensive point guard of his era. DeBusschere was on the 1st Team All-Defensive team every year that he was playing since it's inception. Ben Wallace has been Defensive Player of the Year 4 times. Nate Thurmond averaged 15 rebounds a game for his career(and 15 PPG)...and I heard Jordan wasn't so bad defensively either. That was my plan with the starting unit. Surround Jordan with a team that could shut down anybody, and could score enough to get by. Pat Riley is an excellent coach with a career .661 winning percentage. He can win in the Season, he can win when it counts.

Bench:

If my starters can't contain the opponents' scoring, however, my plan was to stock the bench with enough scorers to keep pace. I think I did alright. Arizin, Fulks and Yardley should probably be starting on somebody's team. Houston can roll in to keep Jordan fresh, or team up with him to make one of the more dynamic scoring guard pairs around. Eaton isn't meant to be a higher-scoring alternate to Thurmond, but Thurmond can score more than enough anyways. Boozer and Ford were meant to provide depth, but they're out of their league here.

Of my 5 Starters, 2 are active. The 3 who aren't were on the "One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History" list. Off the Bench, Arizin was on the list as well. My starting unit combines for 41 All-Star Awards, 26 All-Defensive First Team Awards, 5 Defensive Player of the Year Awards, and Jordan won MVP 5 times.

I think I did alright.

Killericon
09-05-2007, 07:18 AM
My Rankings:

Angrylama - 15
AZ Bronco - 14
JCMElway - 13
Eddie Mac - 12
GSReylea - 11
ManGoblin - 10
Rhymesayers - 9
Master Pain - 8
Rshack - 7
BobHorry - 6
Vance Johnson82 - 5
phibacka - 4
YouCandoit - 3
Freak6 - 2
Ludo - 1

Master___Pain
09-05-2007, 01:05 PM
1. JCMELWAY
2. KillerIcon
3. EddieMac
4. GSReylea
5. VanceJohnson
6. Runnin Gunnin
7. AngryLlama
8. AZBRONCO
9. PhiBacka
10. Man-gobln
11. RShack
12. YouCanDoIt
13. BobHorry5
14. Freak6
15. Ludo

with my squad being the true number 1 of course:strong:

JCMElway
09-05-2007, 01:57 PM
A.L - 15, 14, 15, 9
Eddie Mac - 15, 15, 5, 12, 13
Freak 6 - 14, 3, 3, 2, 2
JCMElway - 13, 12, 13, 15
AZBronco - 12, 13, 13, 13, 8
Killericon - 11, 14, 4, 14
ManGoblin - 10, 6, 11, 10, 6
GSRelyea - 9, 12, 8, 11, 12
RShack - 8, 8, 7, 5
Runnin' & Gunnin' - 7, 11, 9, 9, 10
BobHorry - 6, 9, 7, 6, 3
Master Pain - 5 10, 10, 8
phibacka - 4, 2, 7, 4, 7
VanceJohnson82 - 3, 7, 6, 5, 11
YouCandoit - 2, 4, 1, 3, 4
Ludo - 1, 2, 1, 1, 1

JCMElway
09-05-2007, 02:10 PM
Updated Standings:

1. A.L. - 13.3
1. JCMElway - 13.3
3. Eddie Mac - 12
4. AZBronco - 11.8
5. Killericon - 10.8
6. GSRelyea - 10.4
7. Runnin' & Gunnin' - 9.2
8. ManGoblin - 8.6
9. Master Pain - 8.3
10. RShack - 7
11. VanceJohnson82 - 6.4
12. BobHorry - 6.2
13. phibacka - 4.8
14. Freak 6 - 4.8
15. YouCandoit - 2.8
16. Ludo - 1.2

Master___Pain
09-05-2007, 04:06 PM
Master Pain's Evil Counsel

Starting 5:
PF - Dan Issel- HOFer, 7 time AS, ABA ROY 22/9 pg
SF - Dominique Wilkins HOFer, 50 greatest, 9 time AS
C - Artis Gilmore 11 time AS, 5 time all defensive team, 5 time ABA 1st team, #1 Alltime defensive rebounds, #4 Alltime in blocks
SG - Reggie Miller- FHOFer, 5 time Allstar, Best 3 point Shooter in NBA history
PG - Magic Johnson- HOFer, 12 time AS, 9 time NBA 1st team, 5 time NBA Champion, #1 alltime in apg, 3 time finals MVP

Bench:
G: Eddie Jones- 3 time AS, 3 time 2nd team all defensive team, 7th alltime in 3pt made
G: Fat Lever- 46 Career triple doubles, one of 3 players with a 15/15/15 game in the playoffs, 2 time AS (while playing in the same division as Stockton and Magic), 2nd team all defensive, top 20 in career steals, #8 alltime in steals pg, was the 80s version of Jason Kidd
F: Glen Rice- 3 Time AS, WC in 2000, 4th alltime in 3pt made,
F: David Thompson- HOFer, 5 time AS, 2 time NBA 1st teamer, ROY
F/C: Larry Nance- 3 time AS, 3 time NBA 1st/2nd Defensive team, top 20 all time in Blocks, 17/8 career averages
F/C: Otis Thorpe- 1 time AS, 20/10 player in his prime, WC with Rockets,
C: Tom Chambers- 4 time AS, 2 time all NBA 2nd team

COACH: Red Holzman HOFer, 2 time NBA champion, COY, Voted to the top 10 NBA coaches of all-time,

azbroncfan
09-05-2007, 11:35 PM
I tried to build a team that was very versatile and could adapt to any playing style. I primarily looked at players with the ability to play D along with score and threw in a few specialty guys. Alot of my guys can play multiple positions also.

With the starting 5 I have two big men who were good defenders and great scorers from either in the paint or outside. At the point GP could get into the paint, post up the PG's which were smaller (Nash's, Stockton's, AI's, Cousy's), and also shoot 3's. His ability to play defense is great and arguably the best defensive pg's of all time. At the SF and SG the starters aren't set in stone and could be swapped out according to oppenent's playing style and matchups. I could switch Mullen out with Sloan, Moncrief for Richmond for Defense, or Webber if going to a big lineup. Richmond was a very underrated Defender and was a great scorer who talents went to waste, but Moncrief would challenge him for the starting spot and they would probably log about the same amount of minutes. If needed to run the ball I could insert the RUN T-M-C with Webber for a reunion tour. Didn't plan on that but somehow that's how the pieces fell into place. If I need 3's I could have a lineup with Malone, Schrempf, Mullin, GP, Richmond. I wanted 3 big men for the foul troubles against the Wilt, shaq, Hakeem, etc.

Starting 5:

C - David Robinson-NBA MVP, ROY, NBA DPOY, 10 time Allstar, 4 time all defensive team 1st and 2nd team(8 total). All NBA 1st team 4 times, 2nd team2 times, 3rd team 4 times.

PF - Karl Malone- 2 time MVP, 11 All NBA 1st teams(2 second teams), 4 time all defensive team (3 1st, 2nd), 14 time allstar, #2 all time scorer.

SF - Chris Mullin- 5 time Allstar, 4 time all NBA

SG - Mitch Richmond-6 time allstar, 9th alltime 3pts made, ROY, 21 ppg first 10 years

PG - Gary Payton-9time Allstar, 9 time all NBA, 9 time all defensive team, DPOY, Only player with 20,000 pts 5000 RB, 8000 assits, 2000 steals

Bench:
G: Tim Hardaway-5 time allstar, 3 time ALL NBA, 7th player to avg 2

G: Sidney Moncrief-Two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year, Four-time All-NBA First Team, Five-time NBA All-Defensive Team, Five-time All-Star

G/F: Jerry Sloan-Two time allstar, 6 all Defensive teams, 14 ppg 7 rpg 2.5 spg

G/F: Detlef Schrempf-3time allstar, all nba once, 2 time 6 man of year

F/C: Chris Webber-ROY, 5 time all NBA, 4 time Allstar

C/F: Ralph Sampson-3 time allstar, ROY

C: Dwight Howard-Allstar, All NBA, 15 ppg 11 rpg

COACH: Rudy Tomjonavich-2 titles, Famous punch landed on him.

JCMElway
09-06-2007, 04:30 AM
Very nice analysis AZ. I put you in my top five teams without a doubt. Very nice squad.

However, I don't know if I'd brag about your coach getting punched and nearly decaffinated. That's not too impressive. (Matter of fact, I'd leave that info off the record altogether.)

vancejohnson82
09-06-2007, 12:55 PM
TEAM CHAOS

My goal was to put a team on the floor that would compete in this recreational tournament like it was the 7th game of the NBA finals. Tough, defensive minded with guys that can get hot and carry the load offensively at any point in time. On the defensive side of the ball our goal is to rough you up and impose our will on you....legally or illegally. If there are 6 fouls to give per player every guy's intent is to give up 5....and make them meaningful.

PG Isiah Thomas: ABSOLUTE BEAST of a competitor. Probably the best way to put his guts into words is using the example of the 1987 Finals when he left the game in the 3rd quarter with a badly sprained ankle...this guy comes back in the fourth, hobbled and puts up 26, limping the entire time. Never afraid to get in someone's face...temmate or opponent

TWO NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS (one FINALS MVP)...3 NBA ALL-FIRST TEAM...12 TIME ALL-STAR...FINISHED with 9.7 APG and 19.7 PPG

SG GEORGE GERVIN: Gervin is my scoring machine...not to say he couldn't play any defense but he is my scoring rock. Guy shot .511 in his career....511!!!!! He was a 9 time NBA All-Star...and a 5 time NBA First Teamer

ONLY WILT AND JORDAN HAD MORE SCORING TITLES THAN GERVIN...pLUS HE WON 4 TITLES AND WON 3 IN A ROW!!!

CENTER ALONZO MOURNING -- Perhaps a bit of a reach in Round 3 but I wanted a 7 footer who could play defense and keep up the intensity of the team...Two time Defensive Player of the Year and a 7 time All-Star..known for his intensity and defense but the center scored over 17 PPG in his career...recorded 327 DOUBLE DOUBLES

SF BERNARD KING -- Would have been a first ballot hall of fame lock if it wasn't for a knee injury...was NBA first team twice ('84, '85) in the peak of his career. He averaged over 22 points per game for his career. From '81 to '85 he was one of the most dominant scorers playing in one of the toughest areas (Tri-State/NYC)...Named comeback player of the year in 1981...posted three 50+ games in the 84-85 campaign and had one where he poured in 60....In '91, yes ten years after he was comeback player of the year, he finished 3rd in scoring behind Jordan and Malone...

PF DENNIS RODMAN - THE WORM!!! He will be the rebounding machine on this squad....with all the scoring going on, Mourning and Rodman will be free to hit the boards and play solid defense....

LED LEAGUE IN REBOUNDING FOR 7 STRAIGHT SEASONS
5 NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS
2 TIME DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
NBA ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM 7 TIMES

BENCH

Grant Hill - injuries killed his HOF career
MAURICE LUCAS - YAHOO! this guy....intense competitor
RON ARTEST - 3 time all Defensive 1st Team, career 15.4 PPG
WORLD B. FREE - 44 inch vertical, 30.8 PPG (1980)
EMEKA OKAFOR - outstanding defensive player, force down low
MUGGSY BOGUES - assist machine...pesky defense
JOHN STARKS - one Defensive First Team, one Sixth man Award

COACH : PAUL SILAS : THE ONLY GUY THAT WOULD TAKE THE JOB!!!

JCMElway
09-09-2007, 02:26 AM
I'll have Bobhorry rate the teams soon.....

Master___Pain
09-14-2007, 06:29 PM
So....I guess we are pretty much done with this thing huh?

JCMElway
10-12-2007, 04:10 AM
I guess it is done, unless someone else comes in and rates a team. Good times, tho'.

Final standings:

1. A.L. - 13.3
1. JCMElway - 13.3
3. Eddie Mac - 12
4. AZBronco - 11.8
5. Killericon - 10.8
6. GSRelyea - 10.4
7. Runnin' & Gunnin' - 9.2
8. ManGoblin - 8.6
9. Master Pain - 8.3
10. RShack - 7
11. VanceJohnson82 - 6.4
12. BobHorry - 6.2
13. phibacka - 4.8
14. Freak 6 - 4.8
15. YouCandoit - 2.8
16. Ludo - 1.2