Current Broncos headed for the Hall...

[HorseHead]

Alright, discuss....


Current Broncos you think will make it to the Hall of Fame:

Champ Bailey- shoe in

Rod Smith- what do you think? For me personally? No doubt....

Jason Elam- you have to admit, he might have a shot....

[Crushaholic]

This the Denver Broncos you are discussing. The Hall of Fame will continue to ignore worthy candidates who have played in the Mile High city. The optimist in me hopes Champ will get the nod, but I can't be too sure...

[RhymesayersDU]

I wonder if playing in thin air takes away from Elam... But still, 61 yards is 61 yards.

[DenverDuo]

All right, I'll be the one to say it:

Jay Cutler

[Bronco_Beerslug]

So far, only Champ Bailey if he plays a few more years at the same level.

[Stormontheplains]

Tom Nalen

[Bronco LB 59]

Better than 50% chance Champ Bailey, Mike Shanahan

25-50% chance John Lynch, Tom Nalen

Long shots Rod Smith, Jason Elam

[DBroncos4life]

with how players are acting now days, (Vick, Portis, Henry, etc..) Rod Smith will be in the HOF. Even without that I still think he goes to the HOF.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Its amazing no one has brought up Hixon yet. ???

[Garcia Bronco]

Hixon...put it on the board....Championship

[HorseHead]

shame on me for forgetting Tom Nalen....

[Garcia Bronco]

I don't care if another Bronco makes the hall. It's a joke anyway. The Ring of Fame is the only one that matters to me.

[cutthemdown]

elam wont make it in. The football he kicked 61 yrds is though probably. Rod Smith is an all time great player but won't make HOF. I'd say Champ will make it and maybe even Lynch. Nalen I guess would be a longshot but he's a possibilty.

[Stormontheplains]

Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater better be in before Lynch.

[Jason in LA]

Rod Smith won't make it, unless he can get healthy and put up a few 1,000 seasons. Stats wise there are a number of players ahead of him that haven't gotten it yet. Rod would have to climb way up the charts to get in.

Now, if Rod had been a starter since his early 20s, he probably would have the numbers. But If I'm remembering right, he didn't become a starter until he was 25.

[Beantown Bronco]

I don't know what scares me more.....HOF consideration for a kicker....or the fact that two Maners don't even know that the famous Elam kick that tied the record was for 63 yards and not 61 yards...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I don't know what scares me more.....HOF consideration for a kicker....or the fact that two Maners don't even know that the famous Elam kick that tied the record was for 63 yards and not 61 yards...
LOL

[Play2win]

Javon Walker.

[Beantown Bronco]

Agreed with Jason on Rod Smith....long shot at best....he'd have to have at least two more ridiculous seasons like he did in 2000-2001 to be in the running IMO. He is just statistically too far behind guys like Art Monk, who aren't in there....

[SoDak Bronco]

you beat me to it..63 yards against the JAGS.

[KipCorrington25]

65 yards - Ola Kimrin, preseason. Denver Broncos (W 31-0) vs. Seattle Seahawks, 8/25/2002. He was released after the game.

[BroncoBuff]

Better than 50% chance Champ Bailey, Mike Shanahan

25-50% chance John Lynch, Tom Nalen

Long shots Rod Smith, Jason Elam

Nailed it.



Retired Broncos:
Sharpe 100%
Zimmerman 50%
Little 5%
Gradishar 5%
Atwater 5%

[Los Broncos]

I think Champ gets in with no trouble. Rod and Elam prolly not, the Denver curse will haunt them.

[Kaylore]

Nailed it.



Retired Broncos:
Sharpe 100%
Zimmerman 50%
Little 5%
Gradishar 5%
Atwater 5%

That sadly seems about right. Zimmerman made two all-decade teams and now the committee is treating him like he made the pro-bowl once and is lucky to make the final 25. Gradishar and Little should be in. However I need to let go of it all and recognize that as long as east-coast media yahoo's are the ones in charge, the hall will continue to be crammed with a bunch of Giants, Cowboys and a few other team's players sprinkled east of the Mississippi.

[Killericon]

Jason Elam- you have to admit, he might have a shot....

Not a chance in Hell.

Unless he melts down completely, Champ's in. So's Shanahan. Lynch has got a pretty good chance. Nalen and Rod are long shots.

[Northman]

Alright, discuss....


Current Broncos you think will make it to the Hall of Fame:

Champ Bailey- shoe in

Rod Smith- what do you think? For me personally? No doubt....

Jason Elam- you have to admit, he might have a shot....


Out of those 3 Bailey would be the highest prospect but it would be WAY down the road the way things are going for Denver players right now.

[frerottenextelway]

I know we're Denver and all, but Rod will get in. I know there are those who have votes and have pull who are firmly behind Smith (which is really all that matters). Unless something very unlikely happens, Champ will get in as well. Lynch would likely get in, but that would be more for his work in Tampa than here. Shanny is a bubbleboy right now, but he'll be here for awhile yet. Nalen and Elam both will have outside chances (that's where the Denver thing will kick in).

[Northman]

Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater better be in before Lynch.

Amen to that. ^5

[MileHighMagic]

Michael Edward is the biggest shoo in of any Bronco. He's a lock!

[Northman]

Hixon will get in before he even retires.

[Killericon]

Amen to that. ^5

Just because Atwater and Smith deserve to get in doesn't mean Lynch doesn't.

[2KBack]

I've argued the Art Monk in relation to Rod Smith thing before, but I thought I'd throw it out again.

Art Monk is not a similar situation. Art Monk only led his team in recieving 4 times in 15 seasons. Monk has 91 more catches, but has played 47 more games. Let me repeat that, Art Monk has played 47 more games. Oh yeah and they both have 68 TDs.

Rod has led Denver in Recieving 9 times in 12 seasons. Rod broke 1K receiving 8 times, and in 6 straight seasons. Monk did it 5 times in his career.

and a favorite of mine, Monk drafted Round 1, Rod Drafted N/A

I know there are intangibles to consider, and different eras, but all it takes is a second glance at the numbers to see that Rod has a good resume.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

Who is the nominating reporter from Denver? If it's still Woody Paige (regarded as a lazy asshole), maybe no one gets in. That sadly plays a huge role. For him to fail both Gradishar and Zimmerman is a freaking disgrace. Reporters from other cities have gone to much greater lengths to get their guys in.

[atomicbloke]

The HOF is a complete friggin joke.

How on mother earth do the Jokeland Gayders have 13 idiots in there and we have only one.

Our records aren't that different. We have 2 superbowls to their 3.

[milehimike]

I don't know what scares me more.....HOF consideration for a kicker....or the fact that two Maners don't even know that the famous Elam kick that tied the record was for 63 yards and not 61 yards...
WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! Ding ,Ding

[c_lazy_r]

I know we're Denver and all, but Rod will get in. I know there are those who have votes and have pull who are firmly behind Smith (which is really all that matters). Unless something very unlikely happens, Champ will get in as well. Lynch would likely get in, but that would be more for his work in Tampa than here. Shanny is a bubbleboy right now, but he'll be here for awhile yet. Nalen and Elam both will have outside chances (that's where the Denver thing will kick in).

See, now I think Shanahan is the only one currently guaranteed a spot.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Attention Broncos Fans:

Do not patronize the Hall of Fame.

They do not want you there for any reason but to admire their favorite players. They dont care about you, or your non-east-coast franchise.

Dont show up there.

Dont spend your money there.

Dont give it any place of prominence.

It is not for you, nor will it ever be.

The end.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I know we're Denver and all, but Rod will get in. I know there are those who have votes and have pull who are firmly behind Smith (which is really all that matters). Unless something very unlikely happens, Champ will get in as well. Lynch would likely get in, but that would be more for his work in Tampa than here. Shanny is a bubbleboy right now, but he'll be here for awhile yet. Nalen and Elam both will have outside chances (that's where the Denver thing will kick in).

Rod is one of the rare Broncos who have seemed to pick up some steam in the national media. He has a chance. Heck, the dude made the pro bowl recently and he wasnt at his best.

Rod has the benefit of coming from undrafted status. He'll gather momentum in the press.

[vancejohnson82]

Champ is a 100% lock to get in, as long as he plays at a Pro Bowl level (which is nothing for him) for the next three years
Nalen and Zimmerman (more so) should be locks as well but apparently the "system" will keep out our RBs and OL alike
Sadly, I don't think Rod has a chance....
I can't believe Atwater won't get in but it won't happen

Hixon will have his own wing at Canton

[epicSocialism4tw]

This whole Broncos-in-the-HOF thing just seems like groveling on Bronco fans' part.

It's useless because you will never have your acceptance. It will never be good enough. For every Elway that gets in, there will be a Little, Gradishar, Zimmerman, Wright, Atwater, Dennis Smith, Terrell Davis, Elam, Schlereth, Nalen, Sharpe, Rod Smith, etc, who will be passed over time and time again.

For goodness sake, Micheal Irvin got in in front of TD and Zimmerman this year. MICHAEL IRVIN!

[CBF1]

Someone give me one "one the field" reason Gradishar is not in the HOF?

The place is a joke and will not see me there again as long as this crapola continues.

[IHaveALight]

As of right now.

Champ
Shanahan
Pat Bowlen

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd say only Champ player wise. Zim Gradishar should be in and aren't so I assume nothing.

Shanny and Bowlen as well but, it will take alot longer then it should see Zim Gradishar.

[Master___Pain]

Who is the nominating reporter from Denver? If it's still Woody Paige (regarded as a lazy a-hole), maybe no one gets in. That sadly plays a huge role. For him to fail both Gradishar and Zimmerman is a freaking disgrace. Reporters from other cities have gone to much greater lengths to get their guys in.

Jeff Legwold is the local writer with a HOF vote.

[Maximus]

Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater better be in before Lynch.

None of them have a chance.

[Maximus]

Someone give me one "one the field" reason Gradishar is not in the HOF?

The place is a joke and will not see me there again as long as this crapola continues.

Gradishar was good but, HOF calibur only in donk fans eyes.

[Inkana7]

Gradishar was good but, HOF calibur only in donk fans eyes.

You're kidding me, right? This can't be a statement made in all seriousness. Let's list off some of Randy's accomplishments.

-Seven Time Pro Bowler, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983
-Six Time All-Pro, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983
-All-Rookie Team, 1974
-1978 Defensive Player of the Year
-Over 2,000 Career Tackles, including multiple 200-tackle seasons.
-20 Interceptions, 4 TDs
-13 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD
-Led the historic Orange Crush Defense of the 1970s, especially the 1977 Super Bowl season.

You telling me that isn't HOF caliber?

Let's compare him to the last Linebacker to make the hall of fame, Harry Carson.

Carson's accomplishments:
-Nine Time Pro Bowler, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987
-11 Interceptions
-14 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD

He played 3 more seasons than Gradishar.

Not deserving, eh?

[Hogan11]

I don't care if another Bronco makes the hall. It's a joke anyway. The Ring of Fame is the only one that matters to me.

This nails it....couldn't have said it better myself and I couldn't agree more.

[Spider]

I don't care if another Bronco makes the hall. It's a joke anyway. The Ring of Fame is the only one that matters to me.

Ha! something we agree on , I am glad Elway made it .But alot of great Broncos have been snubbed .......

[Spider]

Gradishar was good but, HOF calibur only in donk fans eyes.
only an Idiot would make this claim ....... But then you are raider fan so I dont need to point that out

[Spider]

You're kidding me, right? This can't be a statement made in all seriousness. Let's list off some of Randy's accomplishments.

-Seven Time Pro Bowler, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983
-Six Time All-Pro, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983
-All-Rookie Team, 1974
-1978 Defensive Player of the Year
-Over 2,000 Career Tackles, including multiple 200-tackle seasons.
-20 Interceptions, 4 TDs
-13 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD
-Led the historic Orange Crush Defense of the 1970s, especially the 1977 Super Bowl season.

You telling me that isn't HOF caliber?

Let's compare him to the last Linebacker to make the hall of fame, Harry Carson.

Carson's accomplishments:
-Nine Time Pro Bowler, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987
-11 Interceptions
-14 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD

He played 3 more seasons than Gradishar.

Not deserving, eh?

and another thing .. Randy did most of that in 14 game seasons ....... just amazing

[Maximus]

You're kidding me, right? This can't be a statement made in all seriousness. Let's list off some of Randy's accomplishments.

-Seven Time Pro Bowler, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983
-Six Time All-Pro, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983
-All-Rookie Team, 1974
-1978 Defensive Player of the Year
-Over 2,000 Career Tackles, including multiple 200-tackle seasons.
-20 Interceptions, 4 TDs
-13 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD
-Led the historic Orange Crush Defense of the 1970s, especially the 1977 Super Bowl season.

You telling me that isn't HOF caliber?

Let's compare him to the last Linebacker to make the hall of fame, Harry Carson.

Carson's accomplishments:
-Nine Time Pro Bowler, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987
-11 Interceptions
-14 Fumble Recoveries, 1 TD

He played 3 more seasons than Gradishar.

Not deserving, eh?


You forgot one of carsons biggest accomplishments... A Superbowl!

[Maximus]

You forgot one of carsons biggest accomplishments... A Superbowl! He also made more tackles to stop runningbacks on the goal line. Some things cannot be measured by a statistic!

[Maximus]

only an Idiot would make this claim ....... But then you are raider fan so I dont need to point that out

I expect that response from a hillbilly!

Gayle Sayers & Billy Sims... Both great players, but Sayers did more in his short career... Same with Carson and Gradishar

[Spider]

I expect that response from a hillbilly!

Gayle Sayers & Billy Sims... Both great players, but Sayers did more in his short career... Same with Carson and Gradishar

you are full of shít ..........simple as that , you made a dumbass comment ......

[Spider]

and you want ot drop that Super Bowl bullshít as well max , you will get your ass ate up on that also

[Maximus]

you are full of shít ..........simple as that , you made a dumbass comment ......

No... I'm telling the truth and you can't handle it... Gradishar is overrated only donkey fans cry about him making the hall. The only donk that is worthy right now is Shannon Sharpe!

[Spider]

No... I'm telling the truth and you can't handle it... Gradishar is overrated only donkey fans cry about him making the hall. The only donk that is worthy right now is Shannon Sharpe!
sell that shít to your mom and family , the rest of us know better , you dont have a leg to stand on , nothing , nadda , you are just Bullshítting to feel important ..........

[Maximus]

I'm standing on the fact that gradishar is not in the hall and never will be because people who aren't biased ( The HOF Committee ) like me see how overrated he was!

[Spider]

I'm standing on the fact that gradishar is not in the hall and never will be because people who aren't biased ( The HOF Committee ) like me see how overrated he was!

Still more Bullshít , Biased as hell ............. compare what Randy did to what Carson did ...... No comparison ..........but then you are raider fan maybe I expect you reading is far fetched .........

[Maximus]

Put your crying towel away... Gradishar is not worthy of the hall. His contributions did not stop your donkeys from getting trampled in the SB and playoffs... Compare the SB ring that Carson has... to the one Gradishar will never have... add that to the statistics and the intangibles.

[Spider]

Put your crying towel away... Gradishar is not worthy of the hall. His contributions did not stop your donkeys from getting trampled in the SB and playoffs... Compare the SB ring that Carson has... to the one Gradishar will never have... add that to the statistics and the intangibles.

I take it your mom and family didnt buy your bullshít either , so you are here .........About Randy , well you would have to climb a step ladder just to kiss his ass ......

[epicSocialism4tw]

Spider, he's got you hook, line, and sinker. Nobody could be that stupid. He's baiting you.

[Killericon]

It's true.

I mean, the HOF commitee unbiased? Even if there there weren't an anti-Broncos bias(which there is) I'm sure there are other biases.

[Spider]

Spider, he's got you hook, line, and sinker. Nobody could be that stupid. He's baiting you.

LOL angry , I never pass up the chance to argue and insult Raider fan ......but he is raider fan so dont underestimate his level of stupidity

[epicSocialism4tw]

LOL angry , I never pass up the chance to argue and insult Raider fan ......but he is raider fan so dont underestimate his level of stupidity

True...I guess it all depends on how many times the bathtub meth lab has exploded in their face, no?

[wabbit]

Put your crying towel away... Gradishar is not worthy of the hall. His contributions did not stop your donkeys from getting trampled in the SB and playoffs...


The Broncos lost that Super Bowl with Gradishar 27-10 & it's a trampling you say.

Sooo, just curious; what do you label that debacle a few years back...back when Oakland had something that resembled a team.


48-21...to Tampa Bay...the Yuks...hmmm...a humiliation maybe...how does demolition sound.

We could try shocking, boring, expected...

...laughable always worked for me.

[bronco610]

I was afraid of this. raiders draft a what they hope to be a decent QB and they get brave and start crawling out of the sewers again.

[Circle Orange]

When they denied Gradishaw, this whole thing became a joke to me. Let's get some pioneer broncos in there...bias, pure and simple. I say the entire state of Colorado should protest by painting their bodies orange and hanging from a tree.

[Beantown Bronco]

I love it when SB rings come into a HOF discussion. Brian Griese has a SB ring for heaven's sake. That tells me all I need to know about how much value a ring should have when it comes to HOF discussions...

[Inkana7]

You forgot one of carsons biggest accomplishments... A Superbowl!

Carson didn't win a Superbowl until the back end of his career and he had L freaking T on his team.