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DenverBrit
05-27-2007, 11:20 AM
Broncos Players Get Homework For The Weekend
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by Andrew Mason, DenverBroncos.com

(CBS4/DenverBroncos.com) DENVER Coming to team headquarters for organized team activities wasn't enough for Broncos defenders.

This weekend, they took a slice of OTAs home with them.

"(Assistant head coach Jim Bates) told us to take those playbooks home and make sure we stay polished up for the next camp," defensive tackle Gerard Warren said.

"We're putting in quite a few defenses. Coach (Bates) expects us to pick them up fast and keep it moving."

And to pay attention. You can stick your nose in the playbook when you're at home or studying on your own, but that nose had better be up and those eyes focused when Bates convenes a defensive meeting.

For the Broncos' defenders, Bates' classroom sessions are like college all over again. When the professor calls your name to contribute to the discussion in mid-lecture, you'd better have the right answer.

"He asks you questions," safety Nick Ferguson said. "'Explain to me exactly how this goes,' or 'What type of running formation is this? What are the run gaps?'

"Maybe in the past, guys weren't responsible for answering those type of questions and knowing the run gaps. Now everybody's responsible, so you have to know what every person on the field is doing."

Welcome to Dove Valley -- where Friday Night Lights meets The Paper Chase.

"Everybody's attentive," Ferguson said. "If anybody dozes off at any moment, he makes sure his presence is known, so you have to like that."

For some players, Bates' classroom methods take them back to their undergraduate days. For others, the college-age flashback comes on the field.

"It reminds me of college, where the defensive linemen were able to use our athletic ability," said defensive end Kenard Lang, who matriculated at the University of Miami. "Most of all, we can line up wider this year. I don't get to be on top of a tackle, smelling his mouthpiece, which is great.

"I can go, line up wide and make plays ... We can line up wide and just go."

On the field, Bates can continue his classroom lessons. The organized team activity sessions are designed for instruction above all else. There are no pads, and more often than not, no helmets. The time for hitting will come in July and August; for now, Bates can instruct and impart on the field without a dry-erase board and some markers at his disposal.

"You go to (training) camp and you're moving 100 miles an hour, trying to dot the i's and cross the t's," Head Coach Mike Shanahan said. "In this situation, it's a little bit more of a teaching environment than it is a hectic environment, trying to get guys in shape, so it's been real positive."

And while Bates has given his defenders a fair amount of new material to absorb, it's not overwhelming. His scheme sees beauty in simplicity.

"You get to this level and people think it's about tricking people and it's about schemes and things," safety John Lynch said. "We're going to have a fine scheme, but much like we did in Tampa, it's not about trying to trick people. It's doing what you do very well and doing it so well that it doesn't matter what the opponent's doing."

"They give you stuff to retain information, but with this defense, it's not complicated for the D-ends," Lang added. "The majority of the time, you're outside (the offensive tackle), and that's really it. We don't have to worry about dropping into zones or this and that.

"That's why it takes me back to college. It's real fundamental and simple. You don't have to be a Brainiac or an Einstein to learn this defense. Billy from Joe's Crab Shack can come down and know this defense by the next day."

But it's doubtful Billy could come in and execute the work as well as Lynch, Lang, Warren, Ferguson, Champ Bailey and the rest of Denver's defenders.

"It's about us," Lynch said, "and I like that approach."

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Paladin
05-27-2007, 11:26 AM
What? No blitzes?

broncs2bowl
05-27-2007, 11:34 AM
yes Im loving this letting our DEs lose and the DTs clog the middle thing. I am loving this.

Swedish Extrovert
05-27-2007, 11:44 AM
Yeah it's called football

Kaylore
05-27-2007, 01:01 PM
What? No blitzes?

Where did you get that they aren't blitzing?

Requiem
05-27-2007, 01:52 PM
Thanks for the article, Kaylore - awesome singature.

Popps
05-27-2007, 01:58 PM
The players have wanted this for a while. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, but it sounds good on paper.

It'll boil down to talent, of course. Hopefully we've added enough to be competitive. I can't wait to see the rookies on the DL get to work.

Odysseus
05-27-2007, 02:15 PM
"You get to this level and people think it's about tricking people and it's about schemes and things," safety John Lynch said. "We're going to have a fine scheme, but much like we did in Tampa, it's not about trying to trick people. It's doing what you do very well and doing it so well that it doesn't matter what the opponent's doing."

In order to be unstoppable you have to be decisive.

Mediator12
05-27-2007, 03:00 PM
The players have wanted this for a while. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, but it sounds good on paper.

It'll boil down to talent, of course. Hopefully we've added enough to be competitive. I can't wait to see the rookies on the DL get to work.

The DE's have wanted it, but what about Warren and the DT's? Just last year Warren was quoted as saying he hated "just tying up blockers" to let someone else make plays.

As for the talent, I am at least happy they saw the need to improve the DL talent level. They let it slide heavily after 2003 and the CLE guys were backwards lateral moves at best. I have just checked several scouting reports on the current NFL players and DEN had no DL listed in the top 30 at their position. The only player close was Dumervil and he was a situational player last year. Warren was not even listed as a top 35 DT after playing last year injured.

I really hope the combination of scheme and rookie talent provides the DL with a better overall performance than the last three years. More than anything else, they were responsible for the late game and late year disasters that have haunted this defense and caused the late season slides from great opening records. If they provide a credible pass rush late in games, this team will compete with any team in the NFL at any point in the season and most importantly the playoffs. Let's go DL!

Requiem
05-27-2007, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the information Med, I can't wait for my boy Timmy to prove you HAPPY. :D (Not wrong, but HAPPY.) :D

REB
05-27-2007, 03:21 PM
Thanks for the article, Kaylore - awesome singature.


Yes. Very cool 8')

rubaiyat
05-27-2007, 03:43 PM
The DE's have wanted it, but what about Warren and the DT's? Just last year Warren was quoted as saying he hated "just tying up blockers" to let someone else make plays.

As for the talent, I am at least happy they saw the need to improve the DL talent level. They let it slide heavily after 2003 and the CLE guys were backwards lateral moves at best. I have just checked several scouting reports on the current NFL players and DEN had no DL listed in the top 30 at their position. The only player close was Dumervil and he was a situational player last year. Warren was not even listed as a top 35 DT after playing last year injured.

I really hope the combination of scheme and rookie talent provides the DL with a better overall performance than the last three years. More than anything else, they were responsible for the late game and late year disasters that have haunted this defense and caused the late season slides from great opening records. If they provide a credible pass rush late in games, this team will compete with any team in the NFL at any point in the season and most importantly the playoffs. Let's go DL!


I find Dumervil MORE encouraging based on that. Close to being top 30 at his position in his rookie season, after being held out the beginning of the year and having to claw for playing time, and even then being used situationally.

Though what do we do with 3 of the same type of players?

Arkansas Bronco
05-27-2007, 03:43 PM
If things go right bates may be the best off-season signing. It gets me excited but I still want to see it run.

Odysseus
05-27-2007, 04:17 PM
The DE's have wanted it, but what about Warren and the DT's? Just last year Warren was quoted as saying he hated "just tying up blockers" to let someone else make plays.

As for the talent, I am at least happy they saw the need to improve the DL talent level. They let it slide heavily after 2003 and the CLE guys were backwards lateral moves at best. I have just checked several scouting reports on the current NFL players and DEN had no DL listed in the top 30 at their position. The only player close was Dumervil and he was a situational player last year. Warren was not even listed as a top 35 DT after playing last year injured.

I really hope the combination of scheme and rookie talent provides the DL with a better overall performance than the last three years. More than anything else, they were responsible for the late game and late year disasters that have haunted this defense and caused the late season slides from great opening records. If they provide a credible pass rush late in games, this team will compete with any team in the NFL at any point in the season and most importantly the playoffs. Let's go DL!

Even if they get a monster pass rush the WHOLE LINE has to get better for this defense to make a mark. I don't think our linebackers and safeties are suspect but I don't know if we have enough real fire power on the DL to keep teams on their heels like I would like to see.

NFLBRONCO
05-27-2007, 04:53 PM
If things go right bates may be the best off-season signing. It gets me excited but I still want to see it run.


He is my favorite offseason signing no doubt this year. I like the other moves as well.

Kaylore
05-27-2007, 11:33 PM
Kaylore - awesome singature.
Thanks. You too, REB. :)

Man-Goblin
05-27-2007, 11:39 PM
Glad to see they have to pay attention in meetings now...

footstepsfrom#27
05-28-2007, 01:24 AM
Yeah...Bates is interesting. Of course so were his last 3 predecessors.

bronco610
05-28-2007, 02:42 AM
Thanks. You too, REB. :)

Hey if your interested, I could turn that into stickers just like I did the logos for Sams bike.

fontaine
05-28-2007, 07:49 AM
All of this means absolutely squat if our DEs can't generate consistent pressure lining up wide.

Bates is like any other coordinator in that regard. The scheme may be simple and efficient but if the on field talent (DL) can't execute it then Bates is going to scrap it, especially if our run D is taking a pounding when the DEs line up out wide at the cost of containing the running inside and can't scalp the QB.

I've read the same basic report every offseason for the past four years. But when it came to crunchtime our DL collapsed and Coyer had to make things up on the fly to "trick" people (zero blitzes etc).

Personally, IMO, I doubt our rookies have enough to get it done in the first year and make the scheme work so Bates will have to do some tinkering during game times and adjust, but at least we have some new DL talent instead of old veterans who have no room for improvement.

This is why I thank God we've got some O talent this year. Graham/Henry should solve a lot of problems but I'm afraid it's still up to the kid Cutler to take this team places.

Kaylore
05-28-2007, 10:13 AM
Hey if your interested, I could turn that into stickers just like I did the logos for Sams bike.

I'm seriously considering since people keep asking for a T-shirt, sticker or otherwise permanent copy of the thing.

snowtrx
05-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Bates might be the best off season signing this year. Just think about it.........we might get to see an actual in game adjustment on D next year?? Coyers philosophy sometimes felt like, "if it fails the first 12 times, then it has to work the 13th time.....right ??? "

"The majority of the time, you're outside (the offensive tackle), and that's really it. We don't have to worry about dropping into zones or this and that.
:thumbsup:
By far my favorite part of this article. It would appear Bates understands that you don't drop your DE (with no help) to cover LT coming out of the backfield and going over the middle. ;D