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dragondawg
05-24-2007, 04:08 AM
Veterans rave about Cutler
The first Denver Broncos minicamp of the off-season is winding down and even though this is technically called a quarterback camp, second year quarterback Jay Cutler has not been the main focus of attention. But make no mistake Cutler is firmly entrenched as the Broncos number one guy.
Cutler replaced Jake Plummer at the end of last season and he showed us just why the Broncos moved up in the draft to get him. And even though it's still early in the off season many of the veterans say Cutler is much better.
Tight end Stephen Alexander said, "He looks great and he's been busting his butt."
Cornerback Champ Bailey added, "He hasn't made any mistakes in practice that I'm knowledgeable of. The guy has grown so much. I just can't wait until preseason to really see what he's got."
Cutler is trying to play down all the attention. Cutler said, "It's still early right now. We're doing some basic stuff and I think it's coming easy to everyone right now."
The current quarterback camp wraps up Thursday. A team minicamp begins next Tuesday.
http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=7877
Florida_Bronco
05-24-2007, 04:31 AM
Good news. That's very high praise and from all accounts I've heard, he's been working his ass of this offseason.
Turf Shaman
05-24-2007, 04:48 AM
It's nice to hear, but let's be honest: What else are they going to say? We gotta see it for ourselves.
Odysseus
05-24-2007, 05:01 AM
I like that Cutler is not impressed.
I like that Cutler is not impressed.
Yea, I'm liking this kids attitude so far :thumbsup:
fontaine
05-24-2007, 05:15 AM
Well the good news I take from that is that the kid is working his butt off which is cool. A lot of guys get complacent when they're handing the number 1 role without much threat of competition.
Glad Cutler isnt pulling a Brister.
Vladimir
05-24-2007, 06:12 AM
I love the fact that Cutler isnt a cocky drama queen.
OrangeShadow
05-24-2007, 06:39 AM
the season cant get here soon enough
SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2007, 07:59 AM
The thing that has really impressed me about Cutler is that it sounds like he is putting in a lot of time behind the scenes to get better. At the facility every day working on his footwork and timing and things like that. The great ones have a love for the game and want to put in the extra time. No knock on Jake, but he always savored his time away from the game and it sounds like Cutler is a gym rat.
-Slap-
05-24-2007, 08:47 AM
The thing that has really impressed me about Cutler is that it sounds like he is putting in a lot of time behind the scenes to get better. At the facility every day working on his footwork and timing and things like that. The great ones have a love for the game and want to put in the extra time. No knock on Jake, but he always savored his time away from the game and it sounds like Cutler is a gym rat.
I love hearing that, too. That kind of attitude has a trickle down effect throughout the entire organization when its coming from the quarterback.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not. The world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence, determination and hard work make the difference."
Calvin Coolidge-
Broncoman13
05-24-2007, 09:17 AM
I love hearing that, too. That kind of attitude has a trickle down effect throughout the entire organization when its coming from the quarterback.
]"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not. The world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence, determination and hard work make the difference."
Calvin Coolidge[/B]-
I've seen this once before but didn't know the author. I'm adding it to my email "sig" for work. Thank you!
Btw, that Cutler kid is overrated. Mayock talked him up so much he ended up being a top 15 pick. So overrated!
I kid
broncswin
05-24-2007, 10:09 AM
Yeah, but it all depends on what Hixon thinks of him;D
kamakazi_kal
05-24-2007, 10:15 AM
the Mane needs a ticker that runs a countdown for the first preseason game.
I'm so desparate for football.
OrangeShadow
05-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Yeah, but it all depends on what Hixon thinks of him;D
please dont :oyvey:
broncswin
05-24-2007, 10:51 AM
You mean you've heard of this guy???
cmhargrove
05-24-2007, 10:58 AM
I will love it when we get to see Cutler competing against Bailey, Bly, and the new Bates scheme in training camp. You would think that would be a good challenge to prepare for the upcoming season.
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 10:58 AM
Hixons kind of a big deal around here. He will make or break Cutler.
In all seriousness, the one thing I love about Cutler is his work ethic. Sounds like he has been busting his rump to get better. And when he takes a break he and his dad finished his basement!
Old Dude
05-24-2007, 11:07 AM
I think I'm going to scream if I see one more thread about Hixon.
broncswin
05-24-2007, 11:18 AM
I think I'm going to scream if I see one more thread about Hixon.
Maybe we should trade him;)
I will love it when we get to see Cutler competing against Bailey, Bly, and the new Bates scheme in training camp. You would think that would be a good challenge to prepare for the upcoming season.
Really, that is a very important thing. Going against Bailey, Bly and Lynch every day in practice can only help speed his development along. It's kinda like getting to practice one on one against Jordan. You might get your butt kicked every time, but each time you play him it might be kicked just a little bit less and then when you go to play somebody else, you might shred them.
Here's to Cutler shredding some DB's this year. I'm very hopefull of 3800 yards and 30 TD's vs 10 INT's.
I think I'm going to scream if I see one more thread about Hixon.
By saying that you only fuel the fire of those who would keep bringing up talk of you know who. Little jokes that are way played out now, but they think people still crack up. Seriously, how many times do you cry wolf. Matter of fact, just to prove myh point, watch how many guys get on here and say something that it totally not related to the topic of Cutler. We're worse then a classroom of 5th graders around here.
Kaylore
05-24-2007, 11:38 AM
Good. He's improving but keeping perspective. They're doing a lot of basic install right now, so things are vanilla but it's good that he's handling it well and is doing the extra things to improve.
And rep to Slap. There is no substitute for hard work - not even talent. Look at Rod Smith as an example.
watermock
05-24-2007, 11:42 AM
mock's man crush is getting to the point of obsession. Ha! But can he get the ball to Hixon?
I didn't know much about him and after Jake had a good year I was surprised. I was out away from the tube expecting a pick at 15 and did a double take. Then, the more I learned about him I started really getting excited. He says all the right things, but HE BACKS THEM UP WITH DEDICATION. The kid allready has a foundation. He's publicly said he is accepting being a role model. He WANTS to be the leader and understands the legend of Elway runs as high a Pike's Peak.
It's still early, but the kid is a MAN despite his boyish appearance. He has all the tools. I just hope he doesn't buckle under the pressure to be the next Elway, he's accepting the load surrounding that, something Jake never did or wanted. I just have a gut feeling that he's going to be up to the task. You can see the fire in Shanny's eyes again...they never went dim, but you can tell he made a concerted effort in the blockbuster 06 draft to build tools for him to play with. Henry, Graham and the kid Harris have filled out skill positions.
The smoke and mirrors this year were unfortunately not in the draft, but in free agency, something that certainly wasn't seen comming. Rod Smith took a bullet for the team but obviously knew his days are numbered. Rod's the consumate Bronco. The Snake running away like a coward and Rhino's neck injury hurts, but both freed up cap space to make the moves.
If you look at this offense, in two years it's been literally reinvented. Cutler, Walker, Marshall, Graham, Henry, Scheff, Hixon, Harris. That's 8 skill positions. I consider LT a skill position. Add one more with Pat Ramsey, who has been shuffled around like a deck of cards and was a legitimate first rounder. That makes 9. I hope we can sign Ramsey after this year when we get some more cap.
I don't think Champ hands out compliments just to hear himself talk. Hopefully Fox can come back well and Paymah can keep improving and Brandon can also come back. We should get Cecil back as well.
I'm not being overly homer...I know a good rebuild of a team when I see it. The remarkable thing is it's been done despite not having high picks without smoke and mirrors.
watermock
05-24-2007, 11:43 AM
Maybe we should trade him;)
We should trade Hixon to Snyder for their 08 first rounder.
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 11:56 AM
By saying that you only fuel the fire of those who would keep bringing up talk of you know who. Little jokes that are way played out now, but they think people still crack up. Seriously, how many times do you cry wolf. Matter of fact, just to prove myh point, watch how many guys get on here and say something that it totally not related to the topic of Cutler. We're worse then a classroom of 5th graders around here.
You need to chill out. You are one of the most wound up posters on this board. Its the offseason and people are bored. And its more than a few people getting a kick out of a few jokes. Don't get all bent out of shape like a 4th grader would do.... :angel: ^5
ApaOps has a man crush on Hixon :)
I too am pleased with the words coming out of Dove Valley about Cutler. I hope he can become the QB this team has needed. Is it time for the season to start?
ApaOps has a man crush on Hixon :)
I too am pleased with the words coming out of Dove Valley about Cutler. I hope he can become the QB this team has needed. Is it time for the season to start?
I wish man
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 12:51 PM
ApaOps has a man crush on Hixon :)
I too am pleased with the words coming out of Dove Valley about Cutler. I hope he can become the QB this team has needed. Is it time for the season to start?
Hell yeah I do. The dude has Elam type speed!
watermock
05-24-2007, 01:02 PM
You can't stop Elam, you can only hope to contain him.
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 01:07 PM
Don't sleep on Coach Shanny either. His mad dash up the sideline to call time out last year was HOF type speed right there. I hope Hix, Elam, Lepsis, you know all the burners took notice.
usedupbraids
05-24-2007, 01:09 PM
please lets go 13-3
freak6
05-24-2007, 01:13 PM
Only Peyton and Brady are gonna be better.
Hopefully the O-line can protect Cutler...
long enough to get the ball into the hands of Hix.
Paladin
05-24-2007, 01:13 PM
Mock: You cited only O improvements in your post. The D has had a couple of upgrades as well, I think.....
Of course, Hixon puts the team over the top.....
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 01:16 PM
Only Peyton and Brady are gonna be better.
Hopefully the O-line can protect Cutler!
Whoa there, I am excited myself and think his first full year will be good but I won't go that far. If he proved me wrong then I will love being wrong. He has talent around him he doesn't have to be that good.
freak6
05-24-2007, 01:19 PM
Whoa there, I am excited myself and think his first full year will be good but I won't go that far. If he proved me wrong then I will love being wrong. He has talent around him he doesn't have to be that good.
He just needs some time. Our playbook is gonna open up the 15-30 yard routes in the seems, skinny posts, deep in routes, and go routes.
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 01:27 PM
I agree his abilities open up the playbooks and I can't wait. His youth will also create bravado that will make us go DOH and WHOA! Just can't get too expectant of him this early.
Los Broncos
05-24-2007, 01:30 PM
Im foaming at the mouth, i cant wait for preseason.
Marhsall did not practice and had a "noticable" limp. Hopefully he just had a cramp or something. We already lost Schef for 2+ months, last thing we need is a snowball of injuries.
theAPAOps5
05-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Rather have an injury now, if minor, than in Training Camp or the season. At least now he can rest and make it back full strength.
listopencil
05-24-2007, 01:38 PM
By saying that you only fuel the fire of those who would keep bringing up talk of you know who. Little jokes that are way played out now, but they think people still crack up. Seriously, how many times do you cry wolf. Matter of fact, just to prove myh point, watch how many guys get on here and say something that it totally not related to the topic of Cutler. We're worse then a classroom of 5th graders around here.
http://cache.defamer.com/assets/resources/2007/03/idol-cryer.jpg
Los Broncos
05-24-2007, 01:41 PM
Some folks around here need some mental help for real.
-Slap-
05-24-2007, 01:42 PM
Really, that is a very important thing. Going against Bailey, Bly and Lynch every day in practice can only help speed his development along. It's kinda like getting to practice one on one against Jordan. You might get your butt kicked every time, but each time you play him it might be kicked just a little bit less and then when you go to play somebody else, you might shred them.
I agree that playing against our star studded secondary will benefit Jay, and the Jordan example seems like a good one, but it really didn't work out that way in Chicago. The Bulls had a hell of a time drafting a number two to back up Jordan because he was so competitive. Jordan would simply destroy the guy in practice day after day until he was ruined mentally.
usedupbraids
05-24-2007, 01:47 PM
I agree that playing against our star studded secondary will benefit Jay, and the Jordan example seems like a good one, but it really didn't work out that way in Chicago. The Bulls had a hell of a time drafting a number two to back up Jordan because he was so competitive. Jordan would simply destroy the guy in practice day after day until he was ruined mentally.
Hey the bulls had Ron harper :approve:
freak6
05-24-2007, 01:50 PM
I agree that playing against our star studded secondary will benefit Jay, and the Jordan example seems like a good one, but it really didn't work out that way in Chicago. The Bulls had a hell of a time drafting a number two to back up Jordan because he was so competitive. Jordan would simply destroy the guy in practice day after day until he was ruined mentally.
Or punch them in the face.
<img src="http://www.xtcian.com/jordancarolina.jpg">
Right now Jay Cutler's future is surreal to even think about. The only thing I feel our lineup lacks right now is a speed threat that can get open on go routes consistently. But Javon and Marshall have good enough speed to get it done for now.
Kaylore
05-24-2007, 02:30 PM
I agree that playing against our star studded secondary will benefit Jay, and the Jordan example seems like a good one, but it really didn't work out that way in Chicago. The Bulls had a hell of a time drafting a number two to back up Jordan because he was so competitive. Jordan would simply destroy the guy in practice day after day until he was ruined mentally.
There can be some of that where the other unit that is getting owned loses confidence. I think that is why so many teams can be lopsided. One unit gets clicking and constantly owns the other so they consciously and subconsciously believe they suck and that translates to mediocrity on the field. However it doesn't have to be that way and we have enough guys on both sides of the ball that are confident enough in themselves that they will only push themselves harder. Javon Walker talked a lot last year about how he felt he could make plays on anybody because "I practice against the best in the league every day."
Between Champ, Walker, Bly, Marshall, Jay and Henry, I think we have enough of those personalities that will only try harder and not get shaken up when one unit is winning. That will feed into the other players who practice.
BroncoMan4ever
05-24-2007, 03:28 PM
I like that Cutler is not impressed.
i like that he is modest, i want a QB who knows he is a badass but doesn't act like that to his team. and Cutler is like that
DenverDuo
05-24-2007, 03:54 PM
We should trade Hixon to Snyder for their 08 first rounder.
Now why would we do that? It's not like there's anyone in that draft class that can even hold a candle to Hixon. I mean, who the **** is Darren McFadden?
And Jay is going to kick ass this year. I think we may finally have a competant QB who we can count on to win games instead of not lose them. If Cutler can take control, we'll be a force to be reckoned with. Particularly if the defense can transition smoothly to the Bates defense and our rookie D-lineman don't bust out.
TheReverend
05-24-2007, 04:32 PM
There can be some of that where the other unit that is getting owned loses confidence. I think that is why so many teams can be lopsided. One unit gets clicking and constantly owns the other so they consciously and subconsciously believe they suck and that translates to mediocrity on the field. However it doesn't have to be that way and we have enough guys on both sides of the ball that are confident enough in themselves that they will only push themselves harder. Javon Walker talked a lot last year about how he felt he could make plays on anybody because "I practice against the best in the league every day."
Between Champ, Walker, Bly, Marshall, Jay and Henry, I think we have enough of those personalities that will only try harder and not get shaken up when one unit is winning. That will feed into the other players who practice.
Please provide two examples. The lopsided unit is usually the one the cap is lopsided to.
TheReverend
05-24-2007, 04:38 PM
Please provide two examples. The lopsided unit is usually the one the cap is lopsided to.
Not to mention the first team rarely faces the first team, almost never after TC... almost always the "scout team" compromised of practice squad and bottom of the depth chart players... trying to find some semblance of reason in your post
bronco610
05-24-2007, 04:45 PM
Not to mention the first team rarely faces the first team, almost never after TC... almost always the "scout team" compromised of practice squad and bottom of the depth chart players... trying to find some semblance of reason in your post
I was thinking from the training camp note last year doesnt the first string off. play against the second string def. and vice-versa during camp?
enjolras
05-24-2007, 05:43 PM
Maybe we should trade him;)
Isn't Hixon already in the hall of fame? You just don't trade that type of talent away..
Kaylore
05-24-2007, 11:11 PM
I was thinking from the training camp note last year doesnt the first string off. play against the second string def. and vice-versa during camp?
Only in certain drills. By the end of camp every player has probably faced every other player on their respective squads a number of times.
TheReverend
05-25-2007, 08:00 AM
Only in certain drills. By the end of camp every player has probably faced every other player on their respective squads a number of times.
So your stance has shifted from "One unit gets clicking and constantly owns the other" to they get to face every other player individually a few times in TC?
Steve Sewell
05-25-2007, 09:50 AM
Veterans rave about Cutler
The first Denver Broncos minicamp of the off-season is winding down and even though this is technically called a quarterback camp, second year quarterback Jay Cutler has not been the main focus of attention. But make no mistake Cutler is firmly entrenched as the Broncos number one guy.
Cutler replaced Jake Plummer at the end of last season and he showed us just why the Broncos moved up in the draft to get him. And even though it's still early in the off season many of the veterans say Cutler is much better.
Tight end Stephen Alexander said, "He looks great and he's been busting his butt."
Cornerback Champ Bailey added, "He hasn't made any mistakes in practice that I'm knowledgeable of. The guy has grown so much. I just can't wait until preseason to really see what he's got."
Cutler is trying to play down all the attention. Cutler said, "It's still early right now. We're doing some basic stuff and I think it's coming easy to everyone right now."
The current quarterback camp wraps up Thursday. A team minicamp begins next Tuesday.
http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=7877
Come talk to me when he's on par with Hixon.
EDIT: Just went and read the rest of the thread...apparently I'm not the only one who thinks that Cutler shouldn't be held to Hixon-like standards...yet.
theAPAOps5
05-25-2007, 09:54 AM
So your stance has shifted from "One unit gets clicking and constantly owns the other" to they get to face every other player individually a few times in TC?
Whats your point. Khan says one unit starts clicking as in OFFENSE or DEFENSE and then owns the other. Just because they see every individual doesn't mean he is changing his stance.
~Crash~
05-25-2007, 10:06 AM
i like that he is modest, i want a QB who knows he is a badass but doesn't act like that to his team. and Cutler is like that
I dont think he is modest I think he is so driven that he realy dont have time to to see the blur around him . :strong:
TheReverend
05-25-2007, 11:08 AM
Whats your point. Khan says one unit starts clicking as in OFFENSE or DEFENSE and then owns the other. Just because they see every individual doesn't mean he is changing his stance.
The point is thats absolutely absurd. If an offense is getting owned practicing against the scout team then the problems a lot deeper than confidence, genius. Vice versa, btw.
If a team has a dominant D and a horrid O, you can usually look at the money and the QB... ie: Ray Lewis, McAllister, etc money vs Kyle Boller. Or Urlacher, Ogunleye vs Rex Grossman/Kyle Orton. Or the reverse with Offense dominating defense... Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Edge (at the time), and who did they pay on defense?