Democrats Caved - Pathetic cowards bow down to Bush once again

[freak6]

Disgusting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18805047/
Reportedly on Ed Schultz show today, the Dems in the House caved into everything Bush wanted in the bill to pay for Iraq.

No Timeline.

Weak benchmarks Bush can waive.

Pathetic. Not my party. Any Dems that vote for this B.S. bill are cowards, and should be sent to Iraq with M-16s to fend for themselves.

[Spider]

it was said , stupidity is doing the same act over and over and expecting a different result ........ Dems shot high , didnt have the votes , Bill is dead , need a new plan , we all bítched and moaned Bush wouldnt change tactics , now bítching when people do ........... you are in a 300 in Wheel base pete pulling a 53 foot trailer , you are on 144th and broadway , you need to get to 14th and broadway in NYC , is the best and fastest route down broadway ? or do you deture to miss certian intersections ?

[Hotrod]

Typical leftys......all talk no action.

They will pay a price in 08

[Spider]

in case you cant answer , perpetual motion , keep flowing ........

[Hotrod]

it was said , stupidity is doing the same act over and over and expecting a different result ........ Dems shot high , didnt have the votes , Bill is dead , need a new plan , we all bítched and moaned Bush wouldnt change tactics , now bítching when people do ........... you are in a 300 in Wheel base pete pulling a 53 foot trailer , you are on 144th and broadway , you need to get to 14th and broadway in NYC , is the best and fastest route down broadway ? or do you deture to miss certian intersections ?

Like I always say when driving......"When in doubt floor it" Ha!

[Hotrod]

Im bored ;D

[Spider]

Typical leftys......all talk no action.

They will pay a price in 08

no there is plenty of action , in fact more action in a few short months , then the reps had in 12 years .......... you hit a dead end , you have to change course ........

[Spider]

Like I always say when driving......"When in doubt floor it" Ha!

LOL , I used new york city example for a good reason , traffic and a 70% chance of getting robbed if you stop ......... you learn quick keep your rig moving ;D

[Spider]

but back on topic , we get pissed at Dems for doing the exact same thing we got pissed at Bush and the reps for .......... there is more then 1 way to jack off .. or so I am told of course ;D

[freak6]

Terrible example. Pelosi said she is leaning toward not voting for this. She better not.

How can they vote for a war they know is wrong, irrational, achieving no goals, and wasting our troops lives and the taxpayers money.

What a joke.

[Hotrod]

Honestly right now Im sick of both sides.

I still dont see on canidate I like for 08.....

[Hotrod]

Terrible example. Pelosi said she is leaning toward not voting for this. She better not.

How can they vote for a war they know is wrong, irrational, achieving no goals, and wasting our troops lives and the taxpayers money.

What a joke.

They do appear to be abit short on bawls.

[Spider]

Honestly right now Im sick of both sides.

I still dont see on canidate I like for 08.....

;D sit down , I like 2 Ron Paul and Chris Dodd ..........Though I think Ron Paul has the courage to make un popular decisions to get this country back on track ....
right now we the american people need to sacrifice to get this country back on her feet ........

[Spider]

Terrible example. Pelosi said she is leaning toward not voting for this. She better not.

How can they vote for a war they know is wrong, irrational, achieving no goals, and wasting our troops lives and the taxpayers money.

What a joke.

you dont take down a tree with a single swing of the axe .........Takes a few chops ........ foot in the door now , lets see what comes down after June .... Republicans still own this war , let them swing in the wind for the failure of the dems .........

[freak6]

Iraq is only getting worse and worse and worse.

What a joke. <b>They should send the same bill to Bush to veto the friday before memorial day.

[freak6]

Jim Moran a Dem from Virginia said he will not vote for this.

Pelosi said she won't either.

Republicans will have to get this BS bill passed by voting for it overwhelmingly. The Dems that do are COWARDS.

[Rohirrim]

On another note, I just saw the results of a poll that states that over 40% of Americans now considered themselves independent, and unaffiliated with any political party. That's me.

[freak6]

On another note, I just saw the results of a poll that states that over 40% of Americans now considered themselves independent, and unaffiliated with any political party. That's me.

I'm a progressive liberal no matter what. Stuff like this makes me sick. But no use trying to act like I am independent.

But cowardly acts like this make me sick. Hold this President accountable.

Send the same bill forward that he already vetoed.

[Spider]

I'm a progressive liberal no matter what. Stuff like this makes me sick. But no use trying to act like I am independent.

But cowardly acts like this make me sick. Hold this President accountable.

Send the same bill forward that he already vetoed.

and what ? expect a different result ?
Naw that doesnt get anything done ..... right now getting something done is more important , this bill only funds for 4 months .......

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Typical leftys......all talk no action.

They will pay a price in 08In what way?

[freak6]

and what ? expect a different result ?
Naw that doesnt get anything done ..... right now getting something done is more important , this bill only funds for 4 months .......

It would force Bush to sign it and get the troops out. Or he can veto it and then Bush

"Refuses to fund the troops in a war he started!"

[Spider]

It would force Bush to sign it and get the troops out. Or he can veto it and then Bush

"Refuses to fund the troops in a war he started!"

nothing would force Bush into signing it , hell the Dems didnt have the votes to override a Veto ........ it is obvious Bush is wrong , and it will come out in 4 months , those that vote against this new bill will have a golden road , I want the troops out also , but I understand we dont have the votes yet , this isnt a win for the reps either , short term win if anything .........

[Rigs11]

Disgusting!What a freaking letdown. I thought the dems had seriously grown some balls.Prepare for a lot more american casualties and a crapload of money wasted. What has happened to this great country?

[Spider]

Did you guys really expect the Dems to get the troops out right away ?
How in the hell can they do that when they have to put Bush in check first ? and how are they going to do that without the votes ?
it will take a united effort to bust Bush down ..... right now it isnt there .....

[ant1999e]

;D sit down , I like 2 Ron Paul and Chris Dodd ..........Though I think Ron Paul has the courage to make un popular decisions to get this country back on track ....
right now we the american people need to sacrifice to get this country back on her feet ........

Are you saying it is couragous to make decisions that are not popular?;D

[ant1999e]

Iraq is only getting worse and worse and worse.

What a joke. <b>They should send the same bill to Bush to veto the friday before memorial day.

Yeah, lets keep up the childish games while the troops wait for their funds. If that will make you feel better.

[Spider]

Are you saying it is couragous to make decisions that are not popular?;D

only if they are the right decisions ;D fine line between courage and stupidity

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Disgusting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18805047/
Reportedly on Ed Schultz show today, the Dems in the House caved into everything Bush wanted in the bill to pay for Iraq.

No Timeline.

Weak benchmarks Bush can waive.

Pathetic. Not my party. Any Dems that vote for this B.S. bill are cowards, and should be sent to Iraq with M-16s to fend for themselves.

What a buch of pathetic cowards. :oyvey:

They have a majority in both houses and they act like they couldn't find a hooker in a whore house if push came to shove.

Just more confirmation that the same $$$ interests who own BushCo are well on their way to owning the whole political system - lock, stock, and barrel.

[TailgateNut]

Yeah, lets keep up the childish games while the troops wait for their funds. If that will make you feel better.

Childish games??? What would you like them to do Kemo Sabe? Waste more time and money dragging the same bill to the WH for the "arrogant one" to veto again. They don't have enough backing to overide the "King".
Nothing short of impeaching both the "king and the queen" will solve this particular issue.

The ones' who don't support/ nor agree with this bill should just walk the **** out in protest since their votes wont make a difference. We have a little hard headed asshole in the white house and unless we fumigate the place the rotten stench will remain untill 2009.

[Hotrod]

Wow Roh thats great news IMO 40% independant. I certainly lean to the right but no longer stand behind the repubs. As long as people follow the party lines nothing will change for the better.

The problem with sending the same bill to the president and him vetoing it is people will come down on the dems for wasting valuable time. Right or wrong thats what would have happened. The down side now is they come off as a bunch of spineless pussys.....

[TailgateNut]

The problem with sending the same bill to the president and him vetoing it is people will come down on the dems for wasting valuable time. Right or wrong thats what would have happened. The down side now is they come off as a bunch of spineless p***Ys.....

As I said so time ago, Pelosi should walk up to Bush and wisper in his ear that "the Impeachment is now back on the table MF" and "were going to DO Cheney first".

[Hotrod]

As I said so time ago, Pelosi should walk up to Bush and wisper in his ear that "the Impeachment is now back on the table MF" and "were going to DO Cheney first".

I'll say that if the Dems would make a power play and show some mussle it would at the very least earn some respect from this righty ;D

I think one of the (right or wrong) perceptions of the left is they are weak knee nancys. The current majority is doing nothing to disprove that idea.

[bendog]

The Dems don't have the votes to override a veto. They don't have many options. You don't thing bushii is enough of a sociopath to veto funding for beans and bullets, and let the troops suffer? If so, you haven't been watching. It's no secret. His "plan" is to **** the troops over till 1-20-09, and then blame the dims. That is a sociopath.

Bushii now has to admit the all-ah-mucky govt isn't doing what it needs to do to even approach reconcilliation, but say publically he wants to keep the troops there. I really think enough gopers will break ranks to pull the plug on this thing before Jan. 20, 2009. Not all of them are sociopaths, and all of them want to stay in office.

[TailgateNut]

I'll say that if the Dems would make a power play and show some mussle it would at the very least earn some respect from this righty ;D

I think one of the (right or wrong) perceptions of the left is they are weak knee nancys. The current majority is doing nothing to disprove that idea.


What the **** do you suggest they do about this!

I'm all ears!

Bush is like a dog that can't be housebroken. The only option is to throw him out or have him euthanized!

[TailgateNut]

The Dems don't have the votes to override a veto. They don't have many options. You don't thing bushii is enough of a sociopath to veto funding for beans and bullets, and let the troops suffer? If so, you haven't been watching. It's no secret. His "plan" is to **** the troops over till 1-20-09, and then blame the dims. That is a sociopath.

Bushii now has to admit the all-ah-mucky govt isn't doing what it needs to do to even approach reconcilliation, but say publically he wants to keep the troops there. I really think enough gopers will break ranks to pull the plug on this thing before Jan. 20, 2009. Not all of them are sociopaths, and all of them want to stay in office.

One can only hope that they stop playing along the GOP party line/ vote and get some balls

That's who is not making the difference. Those Ball-less Repubs who voted against the bill in the first place need to show some balls! The Dems can't change the course with Dumbya waving his veto pen!

Little does he realize and little do his "gopers" realize what this will do to their political futures. The country is tired of this "same ol same ol" attitude. It hasn't worked, it wont work, and it's costing too many lives and too much $$$!

[Hotrod]

What the **** do you suggest they do about this!

I'm all ears!

Bush is like a dog that can't be housebroken. The only option is to throw him out or have him euthanized!

Maybe they need to make the impeachment threat....I dont know. What I do know is in the eyes of Joe American they are weak, whimps, chumps, pushovers.

[TailgateNut]

Maybe they need to make the impeachment threat....I dont know. What I do know is in the eyes of Joe American they are weak, whimps, chumps, pushovers.

I agree with your view of them. I was livid when I heard that Pelosi took the impeachment option "off the table". I felt this would have been/ is the one and only thing that would have "scared Georgie" back to reality.

[bendog]

Back to reality? This presumes he was ever rationale. I don't think so. The 2000 primary was a coronation. The only time he was challanged, Rove swiftboated McCain. He never intended a balanced budget. He never intended to be a "uniter." I think he did initially envision doing away with social security and medicare. The media simply refused to demand he answer one on one questions. He was a card board cut out intended to be a an office holder. He was a blank slate, and cheney, rummy and wolfy used him for their insane version of neocolonialism. And that's a bit different from neo-conservatism.

Impeahment is not the answer. It was wrong in 1998 or whenever.

Warner and Graham know Petreaus said fall of 07 was when we'd know if the surge was having any positive effect. More so, the surge was to impress upon all-ah-mucky that the US would up the committment, but he had to come through too. IF he hasn't, then there has to be a "Plan B."

I'm assuming this will initially entail some force remain to secure that Iran and Syria don't encroach upon a civil war, but I think we'll still be taking casualties, and after Jan 20, 2009, we'll see some regional summitt to get a cease fire.

[Rohirrim]

I believe it would really be in the national interest to impeach Bush as soon as possible.

[patteeu]

Are you saying it is couragous to make decisions that are not popular?;D

Hmmm. Who does that remind me of. Oh yeah, that's right. ROFL!

[patteeu]

What the **** do you suggest they do about this!

I'm all ears!

Bush is like a dog that can't be housebroken. The only option is to throw him out or have him euthanized!

That's pretty offensive. If I were beerslug, I'd report you to the Secret Service. But I'm not, so rest easy.

[TailgateNut]

That's pretty offensive. If I were beerslug, I'd report you to the Secret Service. But I'm not, so rest easy.

Offensive is the stench in the WH and the knobslobbers who support them!

[TailgateNut]

I believe it would really be in the national interest to impeach Bush as soon as possible.


Cheney first!

[alkemical]

I want 1million people to come with me and **** on DC.

[TheDave]

I want 1million people to come with me and **** on DC.

That's a lot of ****

[TailgateNut]

Can't be any worse than the stench in the WH!


Clav.........let me know, I have plenty of freq. flier miles!:~ohyah!:

[alkemical]

I figure it's an absurd way to get the point accross

[bendog]

It wouldn't change anything. Now if, come Oct with no progress in Iraq and no action by the gop in congress to at least redeploy to positions to defend the troops rather than civilians, I'd be willing to "take a week."

[alkemical]

It wouldn't change anything. Now if, come Oct with no progress in Iraq and no action by the gop in congress to at least redeploy to positions to defend the troops rather than civilians, I'd be willing to "take a week."

No i'll just be branded a fecal terrorist

[TailgateNut]

No i'll just be branded a fecal terrorist


You could really make a statement if you brought that 8 armed beast in you avatar along for the ride!:spit:

Seriously, it's almost time for a reality check. He doesn't listen to polls, votes don't phase him one iota. The only options are for God to talk to him, or for the masses to assemble with torches and pitchforks!
That's how they used to rid the villages of the monsters!

[alkemical]

You could really make a statement if you brought that 8 armed beast in you avatar along for the ride!:spit:

Seriously, it's almost time for a reality check. He doesn't listen to polls, votes don't phase him one iota. The only options are for God to talk to him, or for the masses to assemble with torches and pitchforks!
That's how they used to rid the villages of the monsters!

Yep. That's my point. Violent action to reclaim what is "ours"...(The "we the people" thing)...will not do anything but force a violent reaction - and certify the gov't to treat us - the people - like criminals. Guilty before innocent.

I figure that, if then - after peaceful protests - if the people aren't listented to - it's on like donkey kong.

[Denver Crush]

In what way?

The longer we leave our troops in iraq and let bush and cheney keep on with this fictional war on terror, the bigger the chance that they are going to bring the terror home once more. Not only that, but with all the power conglomeration that bush is pushing, we may have a dictator by 08.

[defenseman]

Much frustration apparent on the board these days..dman

[patteeu]

Yep. That's my point. Violent action to reclaim what is "ours"...(The "we the people" thing)...will not do anything but force a violent reaction - and certify the gov't to treat us - the people - like criminals. Guilty before innocent.

I figure that, if then - after peaceful protests - if the people aren't listented to - it's on like donkey kong.

But golly no, don't let anyone ever claim you hate your country. I guess Osama loves his adopted homeland (Saudi Arabia) too. He just doesn't like the "crazy" leadership and the direction their taking. Good god, man, do you realize how insane you sound?

[patteeu]

Much frustration apparent on the board these days..dman

Ain't that the truth. And to think that I thought the ChiefsPlanet lefties had gone off the deep end.

[alkemical]

But golly no, don't let anyone ever claim you hate your country. I guess Osama loves his adopted homeland (Saudi Arabia) too. He just doesn't like the "crazy" leadership and the direction their taking. Good god, man, do you realize how insane you sound?


What's your point?

Crazy is supporting a corrupt gov't that is to serve the people, and isn't.

[Spider]

Support America , Kick A Republican In The Ass Once A Day And Twice On Sunday For Any Ideas He Got While In Church !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[TailgateNut]

But golly no, don't let anyone ever claim you hate your country. I guess Osama loves his adopted homeland (Saudi Arabia) too. He just doesn't like the "crazy" leadership and the direction their taking. Good god, man, do you realize how insane you sound?

What a "Richard"!

[alkemical]

What a "Richard"!

Ya see how i'm automatically linked with OBL too. Exactly more reason to change the weather.......

[Bronco_Beerslug]

That's pretty offensive. If I were beerslug, I'd report you to the Secret Service. But I'm not, so rest easy.It doesn't get much more "offensive" than what Bushbots have done to this country. Luckily for the country, most of them no longer claim to be a Republican ("I'm an Independent now"), have disappeared or given up on politics.

You're only one of a few left.

[alkemical]

It doesn't get much more "offensive" than what Bushbots have done to this country. Luckily for the country, most of them no longer claim to be a Republican ("I'm an Independent now"), have disappeared or given up on politics.

You're only one of a few left.

How can you support the war on terror, after reading this (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=56692) - it shows that the war on terror is a perpetual war machine - designed to be a prolonged effort.

[bendog]

Here's the deal in a nutshell. The dems have got to reach out to people like these. I'm not going to vote for anyone who denies the troops anything, and I don't care (much) if they raise my taxes a little to do it.

Frankly, I'm just not too sympathetic in general to the military after meeting guys who retired with engineering type degrees and are now getting much dinero double dipping. Nothing illegal, but they don't compare to teachers, imo, of how much they give for so little compensation. There's just this "we're so special" smell to them. But, there's no doubt these folks have been ****ed over. It's not right.

But simply defunding a war, and making the troops come home with their tails between their legs (assuming they have two legs) is not gonna make it. This little girl doesn't want that; she still likes the military. We may not be able to stop a civil war, but the Dims have to work with the Warners and Grahams who are eventually going to end this.

And showing any weakness towards abandoning the troops, will let bushii of the hook. His legacy needs to be this family

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070523/ap_on_re_us/war_widow;_ylt=ArbjV5B4lNXfA6NqTvDw_2JvzwcF

ps, and don't think this makes me anti-vet. I went to college with the guys who returned from vietnam. Play flag football with them, you got an asskicking. Something about having plastic ankles and steel fibulas made these guys pretty tough. They got a serious ****ing over. And that wasn't right, either.

[freak6]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18831132/

Keith Olbermann breaks it down.

If we could see the carnage over there, this war would have ended in 2005.

Imagine what it looks like after one of those suicide bombs explodes 45 people to pieces.

Then picture that happening everyday for 3 years straight.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I believe it would really be in the national interest to impeach Bush as soon as possible.

Yep.

The rightards would circle the wagons and claim that impeachment advocates were just playing politics, but impeachment is clearly in the national interest.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It doesn't get much more "offensive" than what Bushbots have done to this country. Luckily for the country, most of them no longer claim to be a Republican ("I'm an Independent now"), have disappeared or given up on politics.

You're only one of a few left.

:D

Hard to believe he has the nerve to show himself on a public forum, isn't it?

[Rohirrim]

Much frustration apparent on the board these days..dman

I always get like that when Americans are dying for no good ****ing reason.

[patteeu]

It doesn't get much more "offensive" than what Bushbots have done to this country. Luckily for the country, most of them no longer claim to be a Republican ("I'm an Independent now"), have disappeared or given up on politics.

You're only one of a few left.

ROFL! I was an independent before being independent was cool. I voted for the Republican presidential candidate for the first time in two decades in 2004. But I'd much rather be confused for a Republican than for a democrat.

[TailgateNut]

[QUOTE=patteeu;1596678]ROFL! But I'd much rather be confused QUOTE]


This is all you needed to say to clarify your mentality!

[bendog]

Roh, there's a reason, but unfortunately the good reason doesn't coincide with bushii's agenda. There is ultimately a resolution, be it partition or power sharing, but bushii's focus is alos upon securing the oil reserves and enriching hal and bechtel, so we put up with all-ah-mucky. The dangerous thing is we could well end up with Sadr then.

[patteeu]

[QUOTE=patteeu;1596678]ROFL! But I'd much rather be confused QUOTE]


This is all you needed to say to clarify your mentality!

Even if I were confused, I'd still be running mental circles around you, Nut.

[TailgateNut]

[QUOTE=TailgateNut;1596710]

Even if I were confused, I'd still be running mental circles around you, Nut.

What ever you say, cupcake! Have a wonderful life!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Exposing the democratic war enablers

http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com/2007/05/hearty-thank-you-to-representatives-and.html

Link to the House Roll Call, and the list of the 14 Senators who voted NO.

http://www.bartcop.com/dems-rolled-again.jpg

[W*GS]

The Far Left always feasts on the mere Left, and then wonders why they're always a fringe minority that's never taken seriously.

[maher_tyler]

Im bored ;D

me to..extremely