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Bronco_Beerslug
05-22-2007, 02:41 PM
I wonder who the 60% of U.S. Muslims think did it? And 25% of U.S. younger Muslims believe suicide attacks (terrorism) "to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances" ?

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Most U.S. Muslims reject suicide bombings (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/ap_on_re_us/poll_muslim_americans_2;_ylt=AjwUR4WgSVQgW4n5GqYVQ 2AE1vAI)
By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer Tue May 22

WASHINGTON - One in four younger U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida, a poll says.

The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

"It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation — a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with
Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."

Federal officials have warned that the U.S. must be on guard against homegrown terrorism, as the British suffered with the London transit bombings of 2005.

Even so, U.S. Muslims are far less accepting of suicide attacks than Muslims in many other nations. In surveys Pew conducted last year, support in some Muslim countries exceeded 50 percent, while it was considered justifiable by about one in four Muslims in Britain and Spain, and one in three in France.

"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.

Andrew Kohut, Pew director, called support for the attacks "one of the few trouble spots" in the survey.

The question did not specify where a suicide attack might occur, who might carry it out or what was meant by using a bombing to "defend Islam."

In other findings:

_Only 5 percent of U.S. Muslims expressed favorable views of the terrorist group al-Qaida, though about a fourth did not express an opinion.

_Six in 10 said they are concerned about a rise in Islamic extremism in the U.S., while three in four expressed similar worries about extremism around the world.

_Yet only one in four consider the U.S. war on terrorism a sincere attempt to curtail international terror. Only 40 percent said they believe Arab men carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

_By six to one, they say the U.S. was wrong to invade
Iraq, while a third say the same about
Afghanistan — far deeper than the opposition expressed by the general U.S. public.

_Just over half said it has been harder being a U.S. Muslim since the 9/11 attacks, especially the better educated, higher income, more religious and young. Nearly a third of those who flew in the past year say they underwent extra screening because they are Muslim.

The survey estimates there are roughly 2.35 million Muslim Americans. It found that among adults, two-thirds are from abroad while a fifth are U.S.-born blacks.

By law, the Census Bureau does not ask about peoples' religions.

Telephone interviews were conducted with 1,050 Muslim adults from January through April, including some in Arabic, Urdu and Farsi. Subjects were chosen at random, from a separate list of households including some with Muslim-sounding names, and from Muslim households that had participated in previous surveys.

The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Rock Chalk
05-22-2007, 02:46 PM
100% of Alec's agree 60% of Muslims have their heads up camel asses.

Rohirrim
05-22-2007, 03:00 PM
From what I've read, in the Arab world it's an accepted fact that Mossad carried out 911 and blamed it on Bin Laden and Saddam so that Bush would invade.

Kaylore
05-22-2007, 03:02 PM
I blame bob.

ant1999e
05-22-2007, 03:13 PM
From what I've read, in the Arab world it's an accepted fact that Mossad carried out 911 and blamed it on Bin Laden and Saddam so that Bush would invade.

Who is Mossad?

Smiling Assassin27
05-22-2007, 03:16 PM
Yeah, and George Foreman was secretly drugged during the Ali fight...

Rohirrim
05-22-2007, 03:27 PM
Who is Mossad?

Israeli CIA.

NaptownChief
05-22-2007, 03:36 PM
Israeli CIA.



You watch too much NCIS. ;D

Los Broncos
05-22-2007, 03:37 PM
Sixty percent of the time it works every time.

enjolras
05-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Theres more than 1 on this board who think that 9/11 wasn't carried about by Arab men.

*sighs*

Tredici
05-22-2007, 03:41 PM
Telephone interviews were conducted with 1,050 Muslim adults from January through April, including some in Arabic, Urdu and Farsi. Subjects were chosen at random, from a separate list of households including some with Muslim-sounding names, and from Muslim households that had participated in previous surveys.

Well there you go 1,050 surveyed - some with Muslim sounding names. I'd say it's definitive.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-22-2007, 04:04 PM
67.35% of statistics are just made up.

vancejohnson82
05-22-2007, 04:06 PM
If we can just get Hixon out of training camp for a few hours he could get to the bottom of this whole thing


....wait a minute......wrong thread

Bronco_Beerslug
05-22-2007, 04:06 PM
Telephone interviews were conducted with 1,050 Muslim adults from January through April, including some in Arabic, Urdu and Farsi. Subjects were chosen at random, from a separate list of households including some with Muslim-sounding names, and from Muslim households that had participated in previous surveys.

Well there you go 1,050 surveyed - some with Muslim sounding names. I'd say it's definitive.I'd wager it's fairly accurate given the polls of Muslims in the Euro nations.

If we can just get Hixon out of training camp for a few hours he could get to the bottom of this whole thing
....wait a minute......wrong threadAren't you the guy that fabricated the "Graham Arrested" story?

epicSocialism4tw
05-22-2007, 04:08 PM
People can convince themselves of anything. Heck, there's a whole bunch of Chiefs fans that visit this board...they are always convinced that their defense is going to be better or that they actually have a chance. ;D

On a similar note, these people with Muslim-sounding names also believe that a warlord who married into enough money to consolidate his power and dominate local tribes was actually a messenger of peace.

vancejohnson82
05-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Beerslug,

Yeah, i apologized for that "fabrication"/reading a story I was sent/wrong Daniel Graham thing a few times already....along with castrating myself and setting my pets on fire I'm not sure what else I can do to make amends to the board

Bronco_Beerslug
05-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Beerslug,

Yeah, i apologized for that "fabrication"/reading a story I was sent/wrong Daniel Graham thing a few times already....along with castrating myself and setting my pets on fire I'm not sure what else I can do to make amends to the boardYou were emailed that story? And it wasn't a wrong D.Graham, it was a fabricated Ahmad Carroll hatchet job (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/JAC/10170833). So someone intentionally replaced Carroll's name with Graham.

Tredici
05-22-2007, 04:26 PM
Beerslug,

Yeah, i apologized for that "fabrication"/reading a story I was sent/wrong Daniel Graham thing a few times already....along with castrating myself and setting my pets on fire I'm not sure what else I can do to make amends to the board

Instead of setting your pets on fire, set your pants on fire instead. That will pretty much take care of the castrating part and no sense bringing innocent fur faces into this.

vancejohnson82
05-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Really??? wow, just read that....you are correct

It was sent to me by a Jets fan who lives in Denver now...guess that was his idea of starting my day off on the wrong foot....it worked

again, apologies all around....my thread starting days are over, unless i somehow stumble over the cure for cancer so don't worry...

Old Dude
05-22-2007, 04:31 PM
I know this is an emotional issue, people, but lets keep it civil. I've deleted a couple posts on this thread because I felt they bordered on racism. Whether they were intended that way or not, I don't know. I'm not slapping any wrists at this point. But tone it down.

Consider that a general warning.

Old Dude
05-22-2007, 04:33 PM
I'm also moving this to the politics forum, so that it won't distract us from David Kircus, ham sandwiches and menstrual cycles.

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 04:37 PM
"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.


Understatement of the year.......

ak1971
05-22-2007, 04:53 PM
Its all about mini nukes and secret airplanes

epicSocialism4tw
05-22-2007, 05:25 PM
Its all about mini nukes and secret airplanes

Isnt everything?

Crushaholic
05-22-2007, 05:42 PM
I'm also moving this to the politics forum, so that it won't distract us from David Kircus, ham sandwiches and menstrual cycles.

This thread wasn't in the politics forum to begin with? :rofl:

Bob
05-22-2007, 11:04 PM
I know this is an emotional issue, people, but lets keep it civil. I've deleted a couple posts on this thread because I felt they bordered on racism. Whether they were intended that way or not, I don't know. I'm not slapping any wrists at this point. But tone it down.

Consider that a general warning.



In all seriousness what crossed the line on the "Mane's War and Politics" thread -- as it might be a first?