Raiders’ Eye View of the AFC West

[dragondawg]

This is not intended to be a comprehensive preview of the 2007 as there are far too many variables that come into play between now and September. This is a snapshot of where the AFC West stands as of May 15, 2007.

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS — As it stands, the Chargers are still the team to beat in the AFC West. It remains to be seen how the Chargers will adapt to an entire new top rung of the coaching staff, and how Norv Turner’s laid back attitude will fare after the intensity that Marty Shottenheimer brought. Regardless of the coaching staff, as long as all-everything running back LaDanian Tomlinson stays healthy, the Chargers are in good shape. They may not repeat as AFC West champions, but they are the early favorites. The Chargers did not do much in the offseason player wise, but then they did not need to.

DENVER BRONCOS — Last season Mike Shanahan benched Jake Plummer in favor of Jay Cutler in a move that likely cost the Broncos a play-off spot. This is the year where it will begin to be seen if that move pays dividends as this is now Cutler’s team. The Broncos went out and tried to solidify their defensive line through the draft, rather than signing Cleveland Brown castoffs. Two of their top picks in the draft have people speculating the over under before they run afoul of the NFL’s player conduct policy, but Shanahan believes he can keep them on the straight and narrow. If Cutler can take it to the next level in his first full year as a starter, and their offensive line continues to make nobody running backs look like OJ Simpson, the Broncos will be in the playoff hunt and will push the Chargers.

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS — The Chiefs look to be the team in the west most likely to be headed for a downfall. They have not made moves to replace their two All-World linemen in Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Larry Johnson, by far their top offensive threat, has been disgruntled over his contract situation and there have been rumblings of him wanting a trade. Tony Gonzalez, their top receiver, is not getting any younger. They never pulled the trigger on moving Trent Green, even though they are committed to starting Damon Huard and Brodie Croyle is waiting in the wings.

OAKLAND RAIDERS — The Raiders look to be the most improved team in the AFC West. When the previous season garnered a total of 2 wins, that is not very difficult.The Raiders are not expected to challenge the Chargers for the top of the division, but they will surpass the fading Chiefs and possibly challenge the Broncos for the two spot. Expect a 5 win improvement. If the Raiders have a seven game improvement, Lane Kiffin becomes coach of the year. This is a transition year for Oakland, with the big dividends beginning in 2008.

http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/2007/05/15/raiders-eye-view-of-the-afc-west-may-15-afc-west-preview/

[Broncos4Life]

OAKLAND RAIDERS — The Raiders look to be the most improved team in the AFC West. When the previous season garnered a total of 2 wins, that is not very difficult.The Raiders are not expected to challenge the Chargers for the top of the division, but they will surpass the fading Chiefs and possibly challenge the Broncos for the two spot. Expect a 5 win improvement. If the Raiders have a seven game improvement, Lane Kiffin becomes coach of the year. This is a transition year for Oakland, with the big dividends beginning in 2008.

What a fuggin joke! Most improved and possibly challenging us for the #2 spot.LOL

[gunns]

Expect a 5 win improvements, yet they could challenge us for the #2 position???

Don't they still have Al?

[Florida_Bronco]

Raiders eye view? I actually managed to find a picture showing what they see.

http://www.greenarbourbnb.on.ca/saga_o24.jpg

[cmhargrove]

I will have to admit, it would be fun to see them top the Chiefs. However, unless we have a drastic setback, there will be no challenge for our spot. It will be really interesting to see how their QB situation shakes out.

Walter - last year's starter
McCown - most likely the starter for game 1
Russell - will start some time by mid to end of season.

They should improve, and their D should keep them in the game until the second half.

[Atwater His Ass]

I would prefer OJ Simpson was not mentioned in any article that is talking about the Broncos.

[400HZ]

I don't think it's too far fetched that Oakland could post 7 or even 8 wins. Not likely, but possible. If they get through the first half of the season without falling below .500, they could even be lingering around at the end of the season. Denver lost 5 of their last 7 and didn't look like an elite team at all in the second half of 06. KC lost 4 of their last 6 if you count the postseason. All 4 teams in the AFCW have undergone extensive roster and/or coaching staff changes this offseason. If it takes SD, KC, and Den some time to adapt next year then Oakland could possibly hang in there if they get off to a decent start.

[broncswin]

I don't think it's too far fetched that Oakland could post 7 or even 8 wins. Not likely, but possible. If they get through the first half of the season without falling below .500, they could even be lingering around at the end of the season. Denver lost 5 of their last 7 and didn't look like an elite team at all in the second half of 06. KC lost 4 of their last 6 if you count the postseason. All 4 teams in the AFCW have undergone extensive roster and/or coaching staff changes this offseason. If it takes SD, KC, and Den some time to adapt next year then Oakland could possibly hang in there if they get off to a decent start.

Unless SD and Den have major problems with injuries, or just plain bad luck there is no way Oak hands with us . I do however think they may challenge KC for the #3 spot all year long. I sure hope I am right about this!!!

[Atwater His Ass]

So nothing has really changed, nor will it prior to the season.

SD is the team to beat
DEN can challenge, but has some question marks
KC is taking backward steps
OAK is still going to be in the cellar

[ZONA]

Raiders eye view? I actually managed to find a picture showing what they see.

http://www.greenarbourbnb.on.ca/saga_o24.jpg




C L A S S I C

[Los Broncos]

The fade have a good defense, just no offense. I just pray to god we dont lose to them.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Very uninformed breakdown.

[Atwater His Ass]

doesn't change the fact that the chefs suck.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

doesn't change the fact that the chefs suck.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9739/untitled2lk7ce2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

The Squaws will be right down there with cellar dweller boob.

[Los Broncos]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9739/untitled2lk7ce2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I knew that was coming.

[400HZ]

Right. It should sound more like this:

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS — The Chiefs look to be the team in the west most improved and shouldn't have trouble making the playoffs. They replaced aging and unimportant players like Willie Roaf and Will Shields with probowl potential up and comer Damion McIntosh. McIntosh was a major stud for his last two franchises, both of whom inexplicably dumped him. Larry Johnson, one of KC's many offensive threats, loves that he is getting run into the ground while making chump change. There is no possibility of a holdout there. Tony Gonzalez, their top receiver, is not getting older. They never pulled the trigger on moving Trent Green, although Miami will be forced to trade their 2nd round pick for him next week. Brodie Croyle is going to step in and most likely put Joe Montana to shame. This year's draft should further cement Carl Peterson's legacy as the top GM in football.

[Atwater His Ass]

wow. you won a tie breaker. congrats. chefs still suck.

[brncs_fan]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9739/untitled2lk7ce2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is a breakdown of the upcomming season. No one asked where the teams from last year finished. Good thing you were paying attention.

[boltaneer]

Right. It should sound more like this:

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS — The Chiefs look to be the team in the west most improved and shouldn't have trouble making the playoffs. They replaced aging and unimportant players like Willie Roaf and Will Shields with probowl potential up and comer Damion McIntosh. McIntosh was a major stud for his last two franchises, both of whom inexplicably dumped him. Larry Johnson, one of KC's many offensive threats, loves that he is getting run into the ground while making chump change. There is no possibility of a holdout there. Tony Gonzalez, their top receiver, is not getting older. They never pulled the trigger on moving Trent Green, although Miami will be forced to trade their 2nd round pick for him next week. Brodie Croyle is going to step in and most likely put Joe Montana to shame. This year's draft should further cement Carl Peterson's legacy as the top GM in football.

Awesome! ROFL!

[Atwater His Ass]

What you've done in the past only counts when it strengthen's welch boys argument. Ask him the last time kc won a championship and see what the repsonse is.

[Willynowei]

How are the Raiders the most improved team? Because they grabbed a rookie quarterback and traded for a busted widereceiver while giving up Randy Moss?

That team scares nobody. Their only hope is their overacheiving defense that now features a bulimic Warren Sapp.

[Los Broncos]

How are the Raiders the most improved team? Because they grabbed a rookie quarter back and traded for a busted widereceiver while giving up Randy Moss?

That team scares nobody. Their only hope is their overacheiving defense that now features a bulimic Warren Sapp.

And getting the number one pick is nothing to be proud of.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

IMO the division is about the same as it was last year.

The only wildcards are San Diego's new coaching staff and the fact that Denver is going to go through a rough transitional period on defense. How those two gambles fail/succeed will affect the standings the most.

I can see the Broncos finishing as high as first and as low as third, and the same for the Chargers and Chiefs. The Raiders will be in my basement again.

[Atwater His Ass]

raiders will be considered "most improved" because they have the best chance to win a higher percentage of games this season because of their terrible win total from last year.

They win 4 games this year and they've already doubled their win total, hence most improved.

Besides, they have a #1 overall QB and a new HC. The media will eat this up just like they do all the time. It must really be depressing as a fan to realize that a 7 win campaign would be a good season.

chefs suck.

[boltaneer]

IMO the division is about the same as it was last year.

The only wildcards are San Diego's new coaching staff and the fact that Denver is going to go through a rough transitional period on defense. How those two gambles fail/succeed will affect the standings the most.

I can see the Broncos finishing as high as first and as low as third, and the same for the Chargers and Chiefs. The Raiders will be in my basement again.

No mention of the o-line and QB issues, as well as a disgruntled RB for the Chiefs I see...

On paper, not taking into account of injuries that can/will happen, I see the division fairly similar to last season.

The Chargers and Broncos seem to be positioned to finish 1st and 2nd, maybe 3rd if Norv blows it or if Cutler slumps. I can see the Chiefs finishing as high as two if they surprise like they did last year, but I can also see them finishing as low as fourth if those problems mentioned above really affect the team. The Raiders seemed destined for the cellar again but Kiffin seems to have the attention of his players and they could sneak into third place. I like McCown and assuming he's going to be the starter while Russell is brought along slowly, he could put some spark into that offense. Their defense was impressive last year. This could be a team people underestimate.

[Killericon]

To say that the Broncos are similar on paper is just plain stupid.

Different starting QB, Starting upgrades at CB, DE, DT, TE, and RB and losing starters at LB, OG and OT. Whether or not they've upgraded from how they looked at the start of last year is quite questionable, but to say they look the same is just silly.

Same goes for KC. The Chargers are intact, and the Raiders only got a new QB and lost Moss, but the Chiefs and the Broncos are much different ball clubs this time around.

The only wildcards are San Diego's new coaching staff and the fact that Denver is going to go through a rough transitional period on defense. How those two gambles fail/succeed will affect the standings the most.

Really? The Chiefs have no questions whatsoever? Man, such stability must be nice.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

the Chiefs and the Broncos are much different ball clubs this time around.

I agree. For once, it's the Broncos undergoing a complete defensive overhaul and not the Chiefs. The times, they are a changin.'

[MileHighMagic]

Hey fat ass, the heart and soul of your team was that o-line. You've lost some major pieces. Admit it, you're dicked!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Hey fat ass, the heart and soul of your team was that o-line. You've lost some major pieces. Admit it, you're dicked!

Jeez. You act like the Broncos made the playoffs or something last year.

[Atwater His Ass]

welcher says what

[brncs_fan]

Jeez. You act like the Broncos made the playoffs or something last year.

Jeez. You would think that after being reminded once already that you could keep the focus on this year. That is what the thread is about anyway.

[boltaneer]

To say that the Broncos are similar on paper is just plain stupid.

Just to clarify, I didn't say/mean that the Broncos are a similar team to last year. I was referring to how I see each team finishing last year. Most had the division going to the Chargers or Denver last year and I see it happening again this year.

[Flex Gunmetal]

Jeez. You act like the Broncos made the playoffs or something last year.

Do you even know how to read? Are you aware of the topic being discussed?

[DenverDuo]

Jeez boob. You act like the Chiefs didn't have their worst offensive performance EVER in the playoffs last year.

First down? What's that?



But I think this is an okay analysis. it gives the Fade more credit than they deserve, but this is a Raiders eye view...

[RkyMtnThunder]

IMO the division is about the same as it was last year.

The only wildcards are San Diego's new coaching staff and the fact that Denver is going to go through a rough transitional period on defense. How those two gambles fail/succeed will affect the standings the most.

I can see the Broncos finishing as high as first and as low as third, and the same for the Chargers and Chiefs. The Raiders will be in my basement again.

I cant see any realistic or reasonable scenario where KC would finish as AFCW champs.

If the stars aligned correctly, maybe KC could be #2 again.

Oh wait - that already happened last year. Lighting strike twice? Not impossible, just improbable.

[Northman]

No mention of the o-line and QB issues, as well as a disgruntled RB for the Chiefs I see...

On paper, not taking into account of injuries that can/will happen, I see the division fairly similar to last season.

The Chargers and Broncos seem to be positioned to finish 1st and 2nd, maybe 3rd if Norv blows it or if Cutler slumps. I can see the Chiefs finishing as high as two if they surprise like they did last year, but I can also see them finishing as low as fourth if those problems mentioned above really affect the team. The Raiders seemed destined for the cellar again but Kiffin seems to have the attention of his players and they could sneak into third place. I like McCown and assuming he's going to be the starter while Russell is brought along slowly, he could put some spark into that offense. Their defense was impressive last year. This could be a team people underestimate.


I agree. Not much will change unless those things happen and maybe some key injuries somewhere.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I cant see any realistic or reasonable scenario where KC would finish as AFCW champs.


People said that last year about the Chargers.

If our offensive line comes around, we've got a great chance.

[RkyMtnThunder]

People said that last year about the Chargers.

If our offensive line comes around, we've got a great chance.



Interesting.

I wasnt on this site last year, but I cant recall anyone thinking SD was falling apart last off season. Only questions I remember were about Rivers. Kinda like the main questions around Denver this year is about them going as far as Cutler would take them. (new defensive scheme is second question, but most national pundits seem to feel Cutler is the key)

I really dont see anyone outside the KC base who views them as a potential dark horse. The general consensus is they are going backwards.

[Kaylore]

Interesting.

I wasnt on this site last year, but I cant recall anyone thinking SD was falling apart last off season. Only questions I remember were about Rivers. Kinda like the main questions around Denver this year is about them going as far as Cutler would take them. (new defensive scheme is second question, but most national pundits seem to feel Cutler is the key)

I really dont see anyone outside the KC base who views them as a potential dark horse. The general consensus is they are going backwards.

Actually outside of Boob here, a lot of Chief fans have taken a grim view of the coming season. About half have already signed it off as a rebuilding year. The Chiefs will fail. They have no QB. You can't do much without a QB. You can do even less with a crap-tastic offensive line and a running back who is going to hold out.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The Chiefs will fail. They have no QB.


::)

I'm still trying to figure out why people think Brodie Croyle can't have the kind of season Philip Rivers had last year.

[RkyMtnThunder]

::)

I'm still trying to figure out why people think Brodie Croyle can't have the kind of season Philip Rivers had last year.

Maybe because he isnt as good?

Ya know, top 10 pick...that kinda thing. Kinda has something to do with the expectations one may have about a player.

Even then, Rivers was questioned.

What I am trying to figure out is how you feel you make a lick of sense

[Atwater His Ass]

because he's not good

[RkyMtnThunder]

Actually outside of Boob here, a lot of Chief fans have taken a grim view of the coming season. About half have already signed it off as a rebuilding year. The Chiefs will fail. They have no QB. You can't do much without a QB. You can do even less with a crap-tastic offensive line and a running back who is going to hold out.

Good to know they arent all complete homers.

Of the supermassive national KC fan base, I know of only 3...including this boob.

All of which are totally spinning in fantasyland so I was unaware they actually had fans with a realistic perspective

lol

[Bob's your Information Minister]

because he's not good

Croyle is more talented than Rivers, easily.

[watermock]

Absurd "analysis".

San Diego: The one and done exit last year rivals the Chefs. Norv Turner vs. Shotty? Thanks for allowing to clear my phlem laughing. Wholesale coaching changes. How long can LT2 carry that team on his back before it breaks? 9-7

Kansas City: The once formidable Chef offense continues to age and falll victim to attrition. Herm Edwards is notorious for anemic offense. This is another team that will run a disgruntled RB into the ground. Carl Peterson remains a joke of a GM. Another team famous for 1 and done, and closing in on 30 years since they upset the Vikings. After their 13-3 season that now seems a distant memory, the did ZERO to their defense. Too little too late. 8=8

Oakland: Addition thru subtration doesn't work here. The days Randy Moss liked to wear Silver and Black lasted days. Porter hates it there at well. The Portly rookie QB is approaching DT weight. Who is he supposed to throw to? Russell is going to find out quickly that he doesn't have the supporting cast he did at LSU. Absolutely horrible choice in a very young, inexperienced coach in Kiffin. Al Davis looks like he's close to heaven's door...err...or somewhere else. 3-13

Denver Broncos: The losses of Darrent Williams, backup RB Nash, and LB and defensive caller and leader Al Wilson still sting in Denver. Regardless, Williams had a sophmore slump, Wilson's play had begun to drop off and Nash was a backup. The Broncos will dedicate the season to their lost fellow teammates and friends. Benching Jake Plummer didn't cost Denver the playoffs. A defensive collapse starting up front did. A natural born leader and self proclaimed role model that has allready accepted those roles including a foundation at the ripe old age of 24, Jay Cutler has all the tools. Tatum Bell and Gerogia Foster never really caught onto what Denvers offense was about. Insert Henry, a stocky, one and cut pounder similar in style to Terrell Davis. Dre Bly, certainly a great compliment to Champ Bailey, who is revered as Denver's best goal line defense in 2006 and most worshiped since Elway and TD, make a great tandem, and are also friends. In addition to a more seasoned Cutler, Denver was remarkably active in free agency. Players like Dre Bly, TE Graham to compliment an emerging star in Scheffler, Henry and a competent backup QB in Patrick Ramsey round out an aggresive offseason. Denver chose to take quality over quanity this year, one that didn't quite fall the way they had hoped. Regardless, they propped up their poor DL with three high draft choices, and an excellent pass blocker in Harris out of ND. If Matt Lepsis doesn't come back strong, he will have serious competition. Several players are hoped to return this year. After a very clean injury sheet in 2005, the injury bug hit hard in 06, with Lepsis, promising dual purpose Cecil Sapp, Dominik Hixon, Gerald Warren and Al Wilson all on IR or banged up. Onto the coaching...The loss of longtime OC Gary Kubiak who wasn't always praised *cough cough* seemed to be missed. However, Denver did addition by subtration in getting Bates and letting the complacent Coyer hit the street. Overall, the Broncos are the most stable in the NFL from the Owner down, including Shanahan who rescued Denver over a decade ago and who's eyes still burn bright with hunger. Bowlen may be a rather flamboyant character with his fur coats and trophy wife, but he will spend to the last nickle on the cap and is a win over money owner. He is also a league leader that led the was to the new CPA with players. The "Teflon Coach" *cough cough* announced he planned on staying around for at least another decade. Oddly enough, this was very soon after Denver went thru a series of gymnastic moves to get from 29 to 11 to grab Cutler. Cutler is absoulutly thrilled and happy to be in Denver. He's chomping at the bit like a big little kid. I forgot to mention the venerable Rod Smith in the returning wounded.
he planned on coaching for at least another decade. Keyboard is screwing up. Rod Smith played with something a surgeon was amazed he could tolerate, but didn't surprise Denver fans as several years ago he played with two broken ankles. He's expected to keep rehabbing but be ready for the season...he's like Denver's Roger Clemens and is allowed to sleep thru meetings. He needs his power naps at his age and knows the playbook inside out. Am I getting you guys pumped up yet? BOOYA! 11-5

[RkyMtnThunder]

Croyle is more talented than Rivers, easily.

:rofl:


And how do you base that claim?! UDFA vs a top 10 prospect?!

Really now

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Wow. Now Croyle is an undrafted free agent?

The ignorance in this thread is astounding.

[watermock]

Brodie Croyle sounds like something in a southern seafood establishment. Oh...maybe it was broiled crawfish, which he will resemble soon.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Wow. Now Croyle is an undrafted free agent?

The ignorance in this thread is astounding.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7834

sorry if ESPN is incorrect, thats where I got the info

Still - how could you even fathom attempting to make such a claim?

Croyle in his limited opportunity has posted an 11.9 QB ranking. Thats ALL you have to base info off of outside of wishful thinking.

Until that changes, comparing Croyle favorably against any other QB in the league is totally laughable.

He cant even hold Shawn King's jock at the moment!

[bronco610]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7834

sorry if ESPN is incorrect, thats where I got the info

Still - how could you even fathom attempting to make such a claim?

Croyle in his limited opportunity has posted an 11.9 QB ranking. Thats ALL you have to base info off of outside of wishful thinking.

Until that changes, comparing Croyle favorably against any other QB in the league is totally laughable.

What do you expect from a BOOB?

[watermock]

What do you expect from a BOOB?

Umm...milk when an infant, fondling when in H.S., Using as a pillow and spring mattress in your 20-30's. Staring at on the internet as a dirty old man?

I prefer Bobo the monkey on Carl Peterson's back.

[TheChamp24]

Please for the love of God and all things that are holy, stop quoting and arguing with Bob.

[bronco610]

I never quoted him.

[DeuceOfClub]

If the Raiders can win 3 games next season it will be an improvement. I’m getting tired of the “the Raiders have a good defense” myth. Teams with good defense win more then 2 games; the Ravens even won a SuperBowl with nothing but a good defense. They (the Raiders) won 2 divisional games in the last 3 years (that’s 2-16 record against the AFCW)
The Chiefs are not even in a rebuilding year; maybe in 2008 after they’ll draft a QB and get a real head-coach, this year is already in the toilet.
And the Chargers took 5 steps backwards hiring Norm Turner. I wonder how he’ll handle all those roide-users, commies, cops shooters? My guess: not very well. And I’m not even talking about game-management.

As for the Broncos, it’s all in the hand of Jay, if he’s the real deal the regular season will be a walk-in-the-park. If not than it’s up for grabs.
But things look much better for the near future with not one real head-coach in the AFCW outside of Denver.

[fdf]

Raiders Eye View of the AFC West

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/photo_galleries/giant_sequoia/pics/black_4.jpg

[Los Broncos]

Raiders Eye View of the AFC West

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/photo_galleries/giant_sequoia/pics/black_4.jpg


Its a long way up.

[No1BroncoFan]

Raiders eye view? I actually managed to find a picture showing what they see.

http://www.greenarbourbnb.on.ca/saga_o24.jpg
Nah. It's more like this.

Ben

[Atwater His Ass]

croyle > rivers. wow, even boob has hit a new all-time homerism low. roflcopter.

[boltaneer]

Charlie Whitehurst > Brodie Croyle :flower:

The Chiefs better start Huard this season if they even want a shot at 8-8.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

croyle > rivers. wow, even boob has hit a new all-time homerism low. roflcopter.

I didn't say Croyle was a better quarterback than Rivers. Only that he was more talented.

[Atwater His Ass]

you're retarded

[Killericon]

I didn't say Croyle was a better quarterback than Rivers. Only that he was more talented.

You know who was really, really talented?

Akili Smith. He just signed to be the backup for my hometown Calgary Stampeders. Kid's got a bright future, I tell ya.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You're one of the few maners who spells "you're" right so I won't put you down.

[Atwater His Ass]

it's not a matter of spelling. it's context. nerd.

[Bob]

Raiders eye view? I actually managed to find a picture showing what they see.

http://www.greenarbourbnb.on.ca/saga_o24.jpg

You should show a picture of what they are going to see -- another stairway leading downward into the abyss. !Booya!

[Bob]

Croyle is more talented than Rivers, easily.

I think I need to consider changing my name.

[Los Broncos]

I think I need to consider changing my name.

Ha!

[boltaneer]

Too bad all of Croyle's so-called "talent" will go to waste with Damion "Turnstile" McIntosh protecting his back...

[BroncoBuff]

It will be really interesting to see how their QB situation shakes out.

Walter - last year's starter
McCown - most likely the starter for game 1
Russell - will start some time by mid to end of season.

They might have the two strongest arms in all of football in Russell and Walter. Too bad for them it takes a lot more than that to win ... right Gus?

[Broncos4Life]

I agree. For once, it's the Broncos undergoing a complete defensive overhaul and not the Chiefs. The times, they are a changin.'


WTF are you talking about? A complete defensive overhaul? We're still more stable then you guys. I think anybody would agree that the chiefs will be the team to struggle defensively in the division. They will be on the field as often as the faid because that chef offense is gonna struggle badly.

[Tom A Hawk]

Raiders eye view? I actually managed to find a picture showing what they see.

http://www.greenarbourbnb.on.ca/saga_o24.jpg

LOL

[Steve Sewell]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9739/untitled2lk7ce2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Could you please circle the points against and write "welcher" next to it?

[Steve Sewell]

::)

I'm still trying to figure out why people think Brodie Croyle can't have the kind of season Philip Rivers had last year.

Hmmm...

Maybe because one of them is a Top 5 pick and the other was a 3rd round afterthought?

Maybe because one of them had 2 seasons to learn the playbook and get comfortable, and the other has just had 1?

Maybe because one of them actually accomplished something of note in college and the other tore his ACL twice and didn't accomplish much at all?

Maybe because one of them actually has a solid nucleus around him and the other does not?

Maybe because one of them was actually slated to start in game one after the incumbent was traded, and the other is slated behind a career journeyman backup?

C'mon Bob, this **** ain't that hard!

[Steve Sewell]

You're one of the few maners who spells "you're" right so I won't put you down.

ur retarted

[Atwater His Ass]

Too bad all of Croyle's so-called "talent" will go to waste with Damion "Turnstile" McIntosh protecting his back...

What do you mean? McIntosh is such a huge upgrade. He'll be in the pro bowl. duh.Hilarious!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

\We're still more stable then you guys. I think anybody would agree that the chiefs will be the team to struggle defensively in the division.

Absolutely laughable. You guys are still trying to field a competent D-line and installing a completely new defensive scheme in the meantime.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Maybe because one of them was actually slated to start in game one after the incumbent was traded, and the other is slated behind a career journeyman backup?


I don't know where you got that from. It's Croyle's job to lose at the moment.

[DeuceOfClub]

... It's Croyle's job to lose ....

Nice! The QB job is to lose. GL with that.

[cmhargrove]

I think it's actually kind of exciting having so many young QB's on potentially dynamic teams in the AFC West. Winning the West over the next 5 years should have a team really prepared for a playoff run.

Man, I have a hard time knocking a guy like Croyle. Sure, he's a Chief, but he's also just a young guy chasing his dreams. Give him a little break, not because he's little, even though he is... Maybe he's the next Doug Flutie.

Anyway, the real tale to be told is if Croyle can unseat Huard. The Chiefs and the Raiders might very well be looking at QB changes midway through the season. As we know from last year, that has its ups and downs. Should cost each team 2 potential wins.

I for one am excited to see Croyle play, and I want him to be quickly introduced to Jarvis Moss and Tim Crowder on third and long...

[Paladin]

....with extreme prejudice........

[BroncoInSkinland]

I have now spewed 17,500 posts worth of drivel at you. My job here is done. I will leave the Mane and never return.

Thanks Bob. Your absence will be celebrated. I would congratulate you on the posts, but I make it a point not to reward children for behaving poorly. Would you please take Crazy with you? He is even more worthless than you are.

[The Lone Bolt]

Raiders-eye view of the division:

http://www.outhousegraffiti.com/outhouse2.jpg