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Broncoman13
05-16-2007, 09:46 PM
and need some advice.
My 8 year old is really wanting a dog and I've been wanting one for a while as well. I used to have a Minature Snauzer (sp?) and loved that dog. No shedding and very smart. Anyhow, I'm looking for some help from our many dog lovers on the Mane. I wouldn't mind a larger dog, but I think it would be better off for me to get either a smaller dog or medium size. I would prefer a dog that doesn't shed a whole lot.
My daughter wants a Poodle which is pretty much out of the question for me. Don't know why but I really don't like those dogs. Likewise with Chows.
So, I'm looking for a smart breed that doesn't shed too much. Has to be good around kids (2 year old, 4 year old and 8 year old). 0-40 lbs or so.
Also, would I be better off getting a dog that is a little bit older but still a puppy? Say 8-12 mos. The concern is the chewing age. I'd love to get a puppy at 8-12 weeks, but I'm not sure I have the time to devote to training the puppy and my wife will get frustrated if she tries to train it. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance for the help!
STBumpkin
05-16-2007, 09:55 PM
Border collies are super smart and medium sized (max about 60 lbs, but usually 35-40). Beagles are also great and vary from 20-40 lbs. Spaniels are also good small dogs cockers bite more than any other breed, but springer spaniels are great and have no such problems. I would vote for going larger but that is just my preference. The dog in my avatar is my 90 lb. White German Shepherd at about 6 months old and only 45 lbs.
-Slap-
05-16-2007, 10:09 PM
and need some advice.
My 8 year old is really wanting a dog and I've been wanting one for a while as well. I used to have a Minature Snauzer (sp?) and loved that dog. No shedding and very smart. Anyhow, I'm looking for some help from our many dog lovers on the Mane. I wouldn't mind a larger dog, but I think it would be better off for me to get either a smaller dog or medium size. I would prefer a dog that doesn't shed a whole lot.
My daughter wants a Poodle which is pretty much out of the question for me. Don't know why but I really don't like those dogs. Likewise with Chows.
So, I'm looking for a smart breed that doesn't shed too much. Has to be good around kids (2 year old, 4 year old and 8 year old). 0-40 lbs or so.
Also, would I be better off getting a dog that is a little bit older but still a puppy? Say 8-12 mos. The concern is the chewing age. I'd love to get a puppy at 8-12 weeks, but I'm not sure I have the time to devote to training the puppy and my wife will get frustrated if she tries to train it. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Poodles aren't so bad. They come in all sizes and they're hypo allergenic, so anybody can own one. If your daughter really has her heart set on that breed, you might want to research them a little more.
Training the dog properly is going to require some commitment on your part. Some dogs are easier to train than others. That puppy will also require a time commitment from you when he becomes a dog. Your eight year old, no matter how mature for her age, can't be depended on to provide all the exercise and attention the dog is going to need. I can guarantee she's not going to want to clean up anything that comes out of the dog. That's going to be your job, or your wife's, or you can hire some guy in a dog**** smelling truck to come by every week.
The behavioral problems (like chewing) that you're concerned about generally happen when a dog is bored and frustrated because he's not getting enough exercise.
As far as choosing a breed, why don't you and the family go to the neighborhood dog park this weekend and observe the various dogs at play? Its a fun and free way to check out the way each breed behaves.
-Slap-
05-16-2007, 10:13 PM
Or just get a Great Pyrenees.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7141/mccombey9.jpg
You'll be able to sleep with the doors and windows unlocked for the next ten years.
TennBronco
05-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Bichon Frise. Don't shed or bark much and have fantastic personalities. I have two and they're great!
watermock
05-16-2007, 10:16 PM
I don't like Poodles at all. Too self important. My neice has a very small dog that is super cute by word of mouth but I've never seen it.
I can however, reccomend a vacum I bought for about 160. Hoover Savvy. This thing really SUCKS! Ha! It literally want to run away from you, yet doesn't fight you on backpedal...why I have no clue. Picks up stuff you never imagined. It automatically goes from carpet to hard floor, has cool hoses that expand like a slinky, and has a hand tool with it's own rotor wind driven for pet hair. It also looks like a cyclops with it's headlight and built like something out of the Cold War. A little heavy, but build to last. It also has an option for bag or bagless and detachable canister either way. HEPA filtered also. If anyone has lost attatchments, they all fit in a little window like little bugs in the rugs about to be exterminated. No water crap either.
So get that cocker spaniel and a Hoover Savvy. Ha!
Dedhed
05-16-2007, 10:17 PM
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So, I'm looking for a smart breed that doesn't shed too much. Has to be good around kids (2 year old, 4 year old and 8 year old). 0-40 lbs or so.
I hate to tell you, but you've just described a poodle. Poodles rank #2 on the intelligence list, and they don't shed at all. If you're anti-poodle, as I was, get your favorite breed mixed with a poodle. One of my dogs is a poodle/schnauzer mix, and he's a great dog. Pays a little too much attention to his nose, but he's great with kids and people and doesn't shed a hair.
I have a 17 lb. beagle who is very intelligent and a 40-45 lb. german shorthair pointer, also extremely smart
tried to get pictures...but filesizes are too big. limits are crazy tiny on attachments!!
Dedhed
05-16-2007, 10:23 PM
I don't like Poodles at all. Too self important. My neice has a very small dog that is super cute by word of mouth but I've never seen it.
Classic transference. No dog has even the slightest notion of self import; that's the owners. Egotists tend to like poodles just like moronic tough guys like Pit Bulls and Rotty's. Don't blame the dogs.
Rohirrim
05-16-2007, 10:26 PM
German Shepards are great with children. Very smart and devoted to duty. You must get one from a reputable breeder to make sure you get a strain free of the hip displasia, though, and that's expensive.
http://www.clark.wa.gov/sheriff/images/eiko.jpg
I had one when I was a kid. Now I have a Lab and a Ridgeback. Down the road, I'll probably get another Shepard.
Dedhed
05-16-2007, 10:32 PM
German Shepards are great with children. Very smart and devoted to duty. You must get one from a reputable breeder to make sure you get a strain free of the hip displasia, though, and that's expensive.
Shepherds are great with their own kids, but CAN be touchy with outside kids.
Dedhed
05-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Or just get a Great Pyrenees.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7141/mccombey9.jpg
You'll be able to sleep with the doors and windows unlocked for the next ten years.
They don't shed at all, do they Slap:laugh:
STBumpkin
05-16-2007, 10:39 PM
Shepherds are great with their own kids, but CAN be touchy with outside kids.
It's all about how well you socialize them. As a puppy, just be sure to expose them to as many new things, places, smells, people, dogs, situations, etc..., as you can. If the dog is used to outside kids, then it won't have a problem with them. If it has only ever known it's own kids, then new ones could be a problem, same as a stranger at the door.
RhymesayersDU
05-16-2007, 10:40 PM
BEAGLE!
We have two here at home, and they are the most affectionate things you could get. Trainable as well.
Rock Chalk
05-16-2007, 10:41 PM
Boxers!
Best personality of any dog, best facial expressions, best expressiveness.
They have some cons though. Pretty hyper even well into old age. Dont like extreme weather and prefer air conditioning. Not really "outside" dogs, that is, they are indoor dogs that enjoy spurts outside but dont want to live outside. Essentially prefer the company of people over other dogs and are somewhat prone to being what my wife calls "clingy". They are fantastic with children though and know their own strength, have great patience with kids and really let kids do whatever to them. For instance, my five year old loves to play dress up and particularly loves to play dress up with Scarlet.
Boxers are not for everyone though. You really do have to give them lots of attention because they demand it. They also think they are lap dogs even though fully grown boxers are a bit heavy to be sitting on your lap, they will try to do it anyway.
Failing that, I have no advice for other breeds. All other breeds while great in their own right, are inferior to Boxers. Im biased like that.
Rohirrim
05-16-2007, 10:45 PM
It's all about how well you socialize them. As a puppy, just be sure to expose them to as many new things, places, smells, people, dogs, situations, etc..., as you can. If the dog is used to outside kids, then it won't have a problem with them. If it has only ever known it's own kids, then new ones could be a problem, same as a stranger at the door.
Our shepard, Loki, would never bark at people walking down the sidewalk in front of our house. She would just lie there and watch them pass. If anybody touched the fence, she would stand up and stare at them. That was usually enough. She never had any problems with anybody we brought over.
Rohirrim
05-16-2007, 10:46 PM
Boxers!
Best personality of any dog, best facial expressions, best expressiveness.
They have some cons though. Pretty hyper even well into old age. Dont like extreme weather and prefer air conditioning. Not really "outside" dogs, that is, they are indoor dogs that enjoy spurts outside but dont want to live outside. Essentially prefer the company of people over other dogs and are somewhat prone to being what my wife calls "clingy". They are fantastic with children though and know their own strength, have great patience with kids and really let kids do whatever to them. For instance, my five year old loves to play dress up and particularly loves to play dress up with Scarlet.
Boxers are not for everyone though. You really do have to give them lots of attention because they demand it. They also think they are lap dogs even though fully grown boxers are a bit heavy to be sitting on your lap, they will try to do it anyway.
Failing that, I have no advice for other breeds. All other breeds while great in their own right, are inferior to Boxers. Im biased like that.
Boxers fart. A lot!
Cosmo
05-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Based on what you're looking for I'd go with a Labradoodle or Golden Doodle, these are the mixed poodle breeds that are most common. They inherit the traits of a poodle, they are smart & either shed very little or not at all. The Labrador/Golden Retriever side of them brings a lot of traits those dogs bring; good with kids, obedient, smart also. They also come in an assortment of colors & sizes. It is what I plan on getting.
Boxers are also good dogs, but most owners of Boxers would tell you they are almost like people, they are about the equivalent of having a child.
SoDak Bronco
05-16-2007, 10:49 PM
get a bulldog, we have an english bulldog, and I love it to death. She is 7 months old, and is a very low key, laid back dog, and is great with kids. They are not yippey and annoying like some dogs, but they do snore and at times is lazy :).
Rock Chalk
05-16-2007, 10:49 PM
Boxers fart. A lot!
Lamb my friend, lamb. Its the only food Scarlet eats that doesnt make her fart...or rather make her farts unbearable. Chicken and beef and she is a house clearer.
Honestly though, after being woken up from a dead sleep seven or eight times with tears in your eyes gasping for something that doesnt reek of the most vile foul smell straight out of hell, you get used to it.
Once I switched her to Lamb and Rice though, the farts disappeared.
AlphaOmega
05-16-2007, 10:52 PM
Bassett Hound! :)
SoDak Bronco
05-16-2007, 10:52 PM
here is a picture of the Sadie the Bulldog
SoDak Bronco
05-16-2007, 10:58 PM
She's good with kids too, :)
SoDak Bronco
05-16-2007, 11:00 PM
Here is my favorite pic.:-*
Falconer
05-16-2007, 11:06 PM
I would go with a Boxer. Everything Alec said about a Boxer is right on target. I would just add that they are one of the best dogs for kids. They have a very easy going nature about them. I think I read somewhere that Labs and Boxers are the two best family dogs there are. The Boxer we had treated Sam so gently, and he (the dog) was only 8 months old.
They are short haired which makes their shedding bearable. However, no matter what anyone says ALL animals with hair/fur shed. Boxers are also very smart on the whole. Within two months time he was very well trained in obedience. I did work with him every day, but probably no more that 20-30 minutes.
Dedhed
05-16-2007, 11:09 PM
It's all about how well you socialize them. As a puppy, just be sure to expose them to as many new things, places, smells, people, dogs, situations, etc..., as you can. If the dog is used to outside kids, then it won't have a problem with them. If it has only ever known it's own kids, then new ones could be a problem, same as a stranger at the door.
That's true with just about any breed. Some breeds will be great with kids regardless, others need proper socialization and training. GSDs fall into the latter category.
Needa Pass Rush
05-16-2007, 11:27 PM
The shedding is the only drawback. :(
A little shaky on the dog paddle, too. Ha!
Needa Pass Rush
05-16-2007, 11:35 PM
Another Shedder. Nothing but love from this one.
Broncoman13
05-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Hey everyone, thanks for the help and the comments. I like the idea of a "labradoodle". I'd really love to get a Labrador. I think my biggest concern right now is the chewing at the puppy age. Is that pretty much a given while they are puppies with every breed?
cutthemdown
05-16-2007, 11:56 PM
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/lightshedders.htm
all of these dogs are light shedders.
Portugese Water Dog is a great dog.
Dedhed
05-17-2007, 12:03 AM
Another Shedder. Nothing but love from this one.
King Charles?
Sassy
05-17-2007, 12:11 AM
Bichon Frise. Don't shed or bark much and have fantastic personalities. I have two and they're great!
BS...I was a nanny for a family that had one...it was the yippiest, yappiest, loudest thing ever.
They also had a mini daschund that was adorable!
Hey everyone, thanks for the help and the comments. I like the idea of a "labradoodle". I'd really love to get a Labrador. I think my biggest concern right now is the chewing at the puppy age. Is that pretty much a given while they are puppies with every breed?
i have a cousin who bought a golden-doodle...golden retriever and poodle, a beautiful puppy, very loving...quite expensive though
Tredici
05-17-2007, 12:28 AM
BM13,
Everyone will tout their own breed of choice. The truth is I've had mutts, German Shepards, a Lab/German Pointer Mix, a Spanial, and currently two long haired dachshunds. All have been terrific family members.
Please check the Dumb Friends League in your area. There may be a dog waiting for you to come along.
My last dog came from www.hua.org Check the net for no kill shelters. I know there is a good one in Ft. Collins. I guy I work with adopted two great huskies there. Family in Houston got the greatest Weimeraner from a rescue organization. Any breed you think about, there is probably a rescue organization dedicated to finding homes for abandoned pets.
Good luck. But really, any dog you get will be family.
bronco610
05-17-2007, 12:29 AM
Love my cockers, yes they shed but usually dont chew much as a puppy. This is Lady Ashley and she is as sweet as can be. You can see her in the black chair.
Broncoman13
05-17-2007, 12:31 AM
Or just get a Great Pyrenees.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7141/mccombey9.jpg
You'll be able to sleep with the doors and windows unlocked for the next ten years.
I found this pup online. She is at a rescue shelter right now. Great Pyrenees mixed with something??? What do you think?
Tredici
05-17-2007, 12:32 AM
Looks like a Pyranee/Border Collie mix. Those are popular.
I would think that mix is a pup who will have to have some work to do or it will drive you nuts! Gonna be very smart and protective.
Sassy
05-17-2007, 12:33 AM
Awww...what a cutie!
bronco610
05-17-2007, 12:37 AM
This is Oreo, hes dumb as a rock but has a personality that wont quit.
Broncoman13
05-17-2007, 12:39 AM
Looks like a Pyranee/Border Collie mix. Those are popular.
I would think that mix is a pup who will have to have some work to do or it will drive you nuts! Gonna be very smart and protective.
She is a pup, only about 3 months old. I think she was at the Larimer Humane Society.
What makes you think she'll have some work to do... other than the fact she is a pup.?
Broncoman13
05-17-2007, 12:41 AM
This is Oreo, hes dumb as a rock but has a personality that wont quit.
What kind of dog is he?
bronco610
05-17-2007, 12:44 AM
What kind of dog is he?
English Cocker.
BroncoBuff
05-17-2007, 03:58 AM
Poodles rank #2 on the intelligence list
s that right? My ex's father had a Rottweiler, he said they were #1 and JAck Russell Terriers #2.
How big do Bichon Frise get? How about Jack Russells?
-Slap-
05-17-2007, 08:44 AM
I found this pup online. She is at a rescue shelter right now. Great Pyrenees mixed with something??? What do you think?
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=19263&stc=1&d=1179387025
I think I'm in love.
How big is your yard? One good thing about Pyrs is they can occupy themselves just by guarding the property. Border Collies typically require a lot more attention.
I won't lie to you, the first two years with a big dog like that will be kind of difficult, but after you get through that part, you'll have a loving, loyal guardian who would lay down her life to protect her family.
clarkster
05-17-2007, 09:06 AM
i believe you dont pick the perfect dog, they pick you. go to the pound and see whats there.
mines a Louisiana Idiot, purebred. hes my best friend in the whole world.
Hogan11
05-17-2007, 09:26 AM
and need some advice.
My 8 year old is really wanting a dog and I've been wanting one for a while as well. I used to have a Minature Snauzer (sp?) and loved that dog. No shedding and very smart.
Why not stick with what you know to be true....Minature Schnauzers (sp?) are the only dogs I've owned off and on for the last twenty plus years and frankly, I wouldn't want to own anything else.
cmhargrove
05-17-2007, 10:13 AM
If you are looking for an 8-12 month old dog, the pound and humane society should be the first stop. The other good thing about dogs in the 8-12 months range is that you can already understand their temperment (which is invaluable around kids). The bad thing is usually some dedicated retraining.
But, you win twice by adopting a pet.
Otherwise, I agree with Labradoodle, but it isn't a common species and will probably cost you $$$. They are great dogs, but I have a friend that paid in the $800 range for a well bred Labradoodle. The pound dog will just cost you shots, tags, and wormer/flea maintenance.
kamakazi_kal
05-17-2007, 10:30 AM
BEAGLE!
We have two here at home, and they are the most affectionate things you could get. Trainable as well.
i like beagles..............just not that bark or bay..... that noise they make, it sucks
HorseHead
05-17-2007, 11:07 AM
beautiful pics. of everybody's dogs...., in all honesty, if you want a dog good with kids, doesn't shed too much, is intelligent, well you've described a number of labs. Golden Labs, Black, Brown etc., very trainable, very loyal...
Billy Clyde Puckett
05-17-2007, 11:12 AM
We have labs and they are great once they get past the puppy stage. The one we have now sheds more than those we have had in the past.
If you make a decision on a breed, look up the rescue groups for that breed. We got our last one from a rescue group. He was about 9 months old, house trained and past the chewing stage.
Like others have said, if you don't have your heart set on a specific breed, take a trip down to the Humane Society, tell them the traits you are looking for and ask for suggestions. Only trouble is that you are likely to come home with more than one. If you go to the Denver Humane Society, you might run into Jake and the cheerleader. He volunteers down there when he is in town.
broncswin
05-17-2007, 11:17 AM
I have grown up with australian sheperds and can say they are the best dog in the world. They are very intelligent, loyal, and love kids. I now have an aussie named MOBY and love this dog. He is a Blue Merle and is awsome. It all depends on how much room you have for the dog to roam. If you have a big backyard, then I would go with an aussie. I have three little boys and Moby loves them to death and protects them all the time. This guy watches animal planet like I watch a dman Broncos game.
Tredici
05-17-2007, 11:20 AM
She is a pup, only about 3 months old. I think she was at the Larimer Humane Society.
What makes you think she'll have some work to do... other than the fact she is a pup.?
No, I mean that type of dog will need some type of work to do. -- Even if it's just keeping birds out of the yard or herding the kids. These breeds are conditioned for hundreds of years to herd, or guard so they can become restless and bored if they are just looked at as pets. -- Then they get in trouble or find some way of occupying themselves.
A friend of mine in Houston had an Australian Cattle Dog who continually "herded" all the toads and frogs in the yard to be under this one bush. It was funny but I doubt the toads thought it was.
Anyway, even just carrying backpacks when going for a walk can make a working dog feel like they are contributing. You need to start watching Cesar Chavez on The Dog Whisperer right now! He is amazing in knowing how to assimilate a dog into a human family.
Sir Mawn
05-17-2007, 11:47 AM
I own 2 Mini Schnauzers... Great dogs, very smart. They only drawback is they bark too much.
I think you should go with a a mini schnauzer or a Boxer. http://photos-246.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v74/42/79/534725941/n534725941_69246_3609.jpg
dbfan21
05-17-2007, 11:47 AM
Shih Tsu's are great dogs. They do not shed, they run around 13-17 lbs, and are awesome with kids. My wife and I have two Shih Tsu's and they are great with our two kids (ages 2.5 years and 10 months).
Here are the dogs:
Hogan11
05-17-2007, 11:52 AM
I own 2 Mini Schnauzers... Great dogs, very smart. They only drawback is they bark too much.
I think you should go with a a mini schnauzer or a Boxer. http://photos-246.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v74/42/79/534725941/n534725941_69246_3609.jpg
This was my last one
clarkster
05-17-2007, 12:33 PM
No, I mean that type of dog will need some type of work to do. -- Even if it's just keeping birds out of the yard or herding the kids. These breeds are conditioned for hundreds of years to herd, or guard so they can become restless and bored if they are just looked at as pets. -- Then they get in trouble or find some way of occupying themselves.
A friend of mine in Houston had an Australian Cattle Dog who continually "herded" all the toads and frogs in the yard to be under this one bush. It was funny but I doubt the toads thought it was.
Anyway, even just carrying backpacks when going for a walk can make a working dog feel like they are contributing. You need to start watching Cesar Chavez on The Dog Whisperer right now! He is amazing in knowing how to assimilate a dog into a human family.
very true. all dogs must have a "job". i tried the back pack trick and it worked somewhat. but if the animal finds itself looking for something to do, somethings getting chewed/dug/etc. one thing that people do is expect their animals to be guard dogs first. that can be a huge mistake.
bendog
05-17-2007, 12:35 PM
Based on what you're looking for I'd go with a Labradoodle or Golden Doodle, these are the mixed poodle breeds that are most common. They inherit the traits of a poodle, they are smart & either shed very little or not at all. The Labrador/Golden Retriever side of them brings a lot of traits those dogs bring; good with kids, obedient, smart also. They also come in an assortment of colors & sizes. It is what I plan on getting.
Boxers are also good dogs, but most owners of Boxers would tell you they are almost like people, they are about the equivalent of having a child.
I know a kid with a labradoodle. Nice dog. Not much on the watchdog side, but very friendly. My brother had a Irish Wolfhound / Poodle mix. Weird looking dog, but I really liked him.
The CARA chapter in your area will have a large selection of dogs who, for no reason on their part, need homes, and a lot of the time the dogs are already socialized for kids. The Cara staff will be able to steer you to one of these.
Just google cara, and you'll see a lot of needy dogs and cats. The kid's school just collected a bunch of pet food to replace the tainted stuff that had to be tossed out.
When our old Springer Spaniel died, my then nine year old daughter demanded another. She really just wanted the old one back, and despite my suggestions otherwise, she was adament. I like the new one a lot more, but she's sorta sorry we got a puppy, because Henry's adopted the role of 'annoying little brother.' Meanwhile the stupid cat just wants to be a dog.
Puppies are cute, but they're a pain the the rear. I'm going CARA next time, but I'm in no hurry.
bendog
05-17-2007, 12:39 PM
English Cocker.
Where'd you get an English Cocker? I considered one. Similar to the Springer in tempermant, but smaller.
-Slap-
05-17-2007, 01:12 PM
You want to really feel good about yourself? Go adopt a greyhound. They're magnificent athletes and great companions. People think they need tons of exercise, but its not true. They're content to run a couple sprints and then lay around the rest of the day. They're so lazy, some people refer to the breed as The 45 Mile Per Hour Couch Potato. They also have very short hair and they're great with kids.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7531/roachsmallcy9.jpg
About Greyhounds (http://www.gpasaltlake.org/about.htm)
clarkster
05-17-2007, 01:28 PM
You want to really feel good about yourself? Go adopt a greyhound. They're magnificent athletes and great companions. People think they need tons of exercise, but its not true. They're content to run a couple sprints and then lay around the rest of the day. They're so lazy, some people refer to the breed as The 45 Mile Per Hour Couch Potato. They also have very short hair and they're great with kids.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7531/roachsmallcy9.jpg
About Greyhounds (http://www.gpasaltlake.org/about.htm)
no kidding. my grandma and i used to do lure coursing, and the greyhounds, all adopted from the track were lovely animals. theyre very good with people and kids, and theyre not as hyper as you might believe.
RkyMtnThunder
05-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Pretty much every breed has been represented so far....
When my wife and I were trying to decide what breed of dog we wanted, we couldn't fully agree or determine which breed we wanted.
So we decided to give up on all that and to adopt a mutt that needed a home instead. She has been a wonderful addition to the household and excellent with our 3 year old son.
If you cant fully determine what kind of dog you would like, or just dont want to pay an arm and a leg for a registered breed - mutts make great pets too. Plus you would be doing some good in one less animal at the shelter
bendog
05-17-2007, 04:20 PM
BroncoMan13, realizing you had a miniture schnauzer, you may already know this but, the length of the coat is not a good indicator of shedding. Moreover, if allergies are a concern, then it could be the dander, dead skin dandruff-like stuff, and a short haired dog might be worse.
Not that I'd recommend the breed, but my Springer Spaniel does not shed much at all, nor does he have much dander. He will shed greatly in the spring and fall if I don't pay 80 bucks to get him a haircut.
My barber still charges six bucks. How can it cost that much to trim up a dog?
Bronco_Beerslug
05-17-2007, 04:24 PM
Pretty much every breed has been represented so far....
When my wife and I were trying to decide what breed of dog we wanted, we couldn't fully agree or determine which breed we wanted.
So we decided to give up on all that and to adopt a mutt that needed a home instead. She has been a wonderful addition to the household and excellent with our 3 year old son.
If you cant fully determine what kind of dog you would like, or just dont want to pay an arm and a leg for a registered breed - mutts make great pets too. Plus you would be doing some good in one less animal at the shelterAll of my dogs my entire life have been mixed breeds form shelters, pounds, neighbors, etc..
All of them the most loving, good natured, non-aggressive dogs you could ever imagine.
JanaŽ
05-17-2007, 04:57 PM
They also had a mini daschund that was adorable!
That's what I want. I'm not allergic to them.
OrangeShadow
05-17-2007, 05:18 PM
im not going to read 3 pages of this but i vote for a golden(ive had 2 so im bias)
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7570/00850087jk2.jpg
bendog
05-17-2007, 05:31 PM
Just OT, but I heard on NPR one day that there'd been a study (prolly gummit funded) on allergies to cats. Turned out that most allergies come from being allergic to some enzyme or protein or something in CAT SPIT. That's right. The cat licks its paw and then washed itself. And it licks itself all over. So when the hair and dander hit you, it has the CAT SPIT on it, and that's what makes your eyes swell shut and sneezing.... CAT SPIT.
So next time you see a cat, SPIT on it, before it SPITS on you
Rigs11
05-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Labrador all the way!!
http://a541.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00106/04/55/106445540_l.jpg
bronco610
05-17-2007, 07:01 PM
Where'd you get an English Cocker? I considered one. Similar to the Springer in tempermant, but smaller.
Rescue cocker!8')
Rock Chalk
05-17-2007, 07:02 PM
Rescue cocker!8')
There's a porno joke in there somewhere...
PEZ! Get in here.
The one who posted the English Bulldog...question for ya. I've always thought about getting one at some point but some people have told me that they drool alot. Is this true?
bronco610
05-17-2007, 07:08 PM
There's a porno joke in there somewhere...
PEZ! Get in here.
Never joke about the Broncos, my Mother or Cocker spaniels!Ha!
Someone said that their chitzu's don't shed. Maybe their all different then because my dad has one and whenever he goes away for a long weekend I watch her for him. She like's to lie in my lap while I'm sitting at the computer and when she gets up I have a fair amount of hair in my lap. ???
Hogan11
05-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Just OT, but I heard on NPR one day that there'd been a study (prolly gummit funded) on allergies to cats. Turned out that most allergies come from being allergic to some enzyme or protein or something in CAT SPIT. That's right. The cat licks its paw and then washed itself. And it licks itself all over. So when the hair and dander hit you, it has the CAT SPIT on it, and that's what makes your eyes swell shut and sneezing.... CAT SPIT.
So next time you see a cat, SPIT on it, before it SPITS on you
I thought everyone kinda knew this already....but maybe not.
It reminds me of the old dog joke...you know...
Q:why does a dog lick it's balls?
A: Because he knows in the next couple of minutes he'll be licking your face Ha!
epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2007, 09:05 PM
I have a Bull Terrier and an Alaskan Malamute.
The Malamute sheds too much for your liking (sheds ALOT). Malamutes are a friendly, sweet hearted breed who are very intelligent. Our Malamutes have been great with children and fun to have around. They "talk" alot and have playful personalities.
http://ellaskennel.com/6wks%20010.jpg
http://www.dogs-central.com/dogs-puppies/alaskan-malamute-puppy/candyrock.jpg
bronco610
05-17-2007, 09:09 PM
I have a Bull Terrier and an Alaskan Malamute.
The Malamute sheds too much for your liking (sheds ALOT). Malamutes are a friendly, sweet hearted breed who are very intelligent. Our Malamutes have been great with children and fun to have around. They "talk" alot and have playful personalities.
http://ellaskennel.com/6wks%20010.jpg
http://www.dogs-central.com/dogs-puppies/alaskan-malamute-puppy/candyrock.jpg
My brother has two Malamute/wolf hybrids. They taught my female Cocker to howl. Now if I walk across the street and she sees me she howls. Worse she is teaching my other Cocker the same thing.
epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2007, 09:17 PM
The Bull Terrier is my personal favorite. I have never encountered such a loyal and overtly loving breed. These dogs would stand in front of a bear for you. They are a medium sized breed, and you can find a miniature Bull Terrier that is a small dog. On a scale of ten, I would place this breed at about a 9 as far as how they get along with kids. These dogs are seemingly bred for children. My Bully gets very happy when young kids come over. He thinks "PLAY!" and will let the kids do anything to him. The display that he puts on when he is happy is about the most beautiful display of joy I have seen in any living thing. He charges around the house or the yard and springs and jumps with a huge smile on his face. He is at his happiest when I come home or someone who he hasnt seen in a while comes over.
The Bullies are a short haired breed that sheds seasonally, but it is manageable. They are definately a breed that needs its excercise, so walks and backyard time with the kids would be ideal for them. Just as with any other breed, a dog is a commitment that goes beyond feeding and cleaning up poop. If you invest time in the dog, you will have a loyal and loving family member for life. Be sure you research the attributes of each breed and think about what you will and wont be able to do in regards to each of them. A happy, well socialized dog is a blessing to your family.
Here are some Bullies:
http://www.honeysbulls.net/panier%20de%20bull%20terrier%20le%203%20octobre%20 05%20site.jpg
This is what mine looks like:
http://www.eatonvillenews.net/images/Bob/XMAS%20PARADE%20BULL%20TERRIER%20ZACH%20(OP)%20DEC .%2011,%2004%20042.jpg
STBumpkin
05-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Hey everyone, thanks for the help and the comments. I like the idea of a "labradoodle". I'd really love to get a Labrador. I think my biggest concern right now is the chewing at the puppy age. Is that pretty much a given while they are puppies with every breed?
From the time I got him at about 2 months old, I gave Ozzy cardboard boxes to chew on. He loves to tear them up, but doesn't touch anything else in the house. The only problem is you have to clean up lots of pieces of cardboard, but it beats the heck out of re-upholstering my furniture. Like someone said earlier, dogs mainly chew because they are bored or worried (Obsesive-Compulsive disorder brought on my stress). That comes with what others have said about dogs needing to do work.
epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Here's my Malamute Chewy:
BroncoBuff
05-17-2007, 10:39 PM
This site gves you a questionnaire and then recommends the best breeds for you based on 7 or 8 categories. Pretty cool actually: http://www.glowdog.com/bestdog/
They rate about 80 breeds - top to bottom - in all categories.
And I owe you bendog ... I've always hated cats, and now I can explain that hate logically.
Broncoman13
05-19-2007, 01:49 AM
Update time!!!
We went to the local Dumb Friends here in town and I found an awesome puppy! He was 4 months old and already weighed nearly 40 pounds. He was half St. Bernard and half Poodle (standard). He would have easily grown to 80-90 lbs. My wife was against a big dog but this one was very calm, even for a puppy. He would have been a couch potato and very loving. The only draw back, my 3 year old was scared to death of him. When we sat down to "visit" with him, she cried half of the time. "J-J" would play for about 30 seconds and then sit down at my 8 year old's feet. She walked out crying when we decided that he would become too big and that it wouldn't be fair to our 3 year old to get a puppy that she was scared of. That would be an experience she may never get over and I don't want her to grow up being afraid of, or disliking dogs. The wife really like him though which was kind of suprising considering he was already pretty big.
So, we're all bummed out and my wife is digging through the paper and internet and finds a Cocker-Poo. We both loved the Golden-Doodles but there weren't any around. So we go look at a litter of Cocker-Doodles or whatever they want to call them (sounds like a bird!). My 8 year old falls in love with the runt. Female that is Chocolate Roan (marbled) with green eyes. The pops is a 25 lb Cocker Spaniel. The ma, a 12 lb Miniature Poodle. We figure "Mocha" will grow to 18 lbs or so. I would have loved to get both dogs, but I'm happy having a puppy that all of my girls love and are happy with.
Slap, I really like the Great Pyrenees. The puppy picture I posted the other night makes me really want to get one... and eventually I will. When the time comes I'll have more questions!
Thanks for all of the responses and I'll get some pictures up soon!
Cito Pelon
05-19-2007, 11:27 AM
and need some advice.
My 8 year old is really wanting a dog and I've been wanting one for a while as well. I used to have a Minature Snauzer (sp?) and loved that dog. No shedding and very smart. Anyhow, I'm looking for some help from our many dog lovers on the Mane. I wouldn't mind a larger dog, but I think it would be better off for me to get either a smaller dog or medium size. I would prefer a dog that doesn't shed a whole lot.
My daughter wants a Poodle which is pretty much out of the question for me. Don't know why but I really don't like those dogs. Likewise with Chows.
So, I'm looking for a smart breed that doesn't shed too much. Has to be good around kids (2 year old, 4 year old and 8 year old). 0-40 lbs or so.
Also, would I be better off getting a dog that is a little bit older but still a puppy? Say 8-12 mos. The concern is the chewing age. I'd love to get a puppy at 8-12 weeks, but I'm not sure I have the time to devote to training the puppy and my wife will get frustrated if she tries to train it. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Go to all the shelters and find yourself an older Lab, say 4-5 years old. Don't take the kids or the wife, they won't be able to make a good judgement. It's difficult to go to the shelters, really difficult, but after you go to a few you'll get hardened to the game and be able to make a good judgement and save one good dog. Don't grab a dog at the first shelter just to get the hell out of there and not have to go to more shelters.
Labs are great with children. They're big dogs, but smart as all get out and adapt well to any situation. They don't shed much, and they very seldom cause trouble with other dogs. By that I mean they don't start trouble, but they're big enough to finish it if necessary. Labs don't go nuts and lose their minds to aggression I guess is a good description of their demeanor.
Basically, I'd say go to the shelters and find the friendliest Lab. That's a good method to find a good dog.
Broncoman13
05-19-2007, 01:24 PM
Another question. The puppy is 8 or 9 weeks old. She has never been bathed and looks like she could probably use one. Is 8-9 weeks too young to bathe her? I bought some puppy shampoo, but it doesn't have an age limitation or instructions. Little help, thanks!
Broncoman13
05-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Mocha the Cockerdoodle/Cockapoo!
I need a man dog now!!! :strong:
Sassy
05-19-2007, 02:12 PM
What a cutie! Love the name!
Cito Pelon
05-19-2007, 02:34 PM
Mocha the Cockerdoodle/Cockapoo!
I need a man dog now!!! :strong:
You wimp. :wiggle: OK, the next one should be a Lab. Every man needs a Lab. BTW, did you get to Denver yet?
-Slap-
05-19-2007, 03:38 PM
Update time!!!
We went to the local Dumb Friends here in town and I found an awesome puppy! He was 4 months old and already weighed nearly 40 pounds. He was half St. Bernard and half Poodle (standard). He would have easily grown to 80-90 lbs. My wife was against a big dog but this one was very calm, even for a puppy. He would have been a couch potato and very loving. The only draw back, my 3 year old was scared to death of him. When we sat down to "visit" with him, she cried half of the time. "J-J" would play for about 30 seconds and then sit down at my 8 year old's feet. She walked out crying when we decided that he would become too big and that it wouldn't be fair to our 3 year old to get a puppy that she was scared of. That would be an experience she may never get over and I don't want her to grow up being afraid of, or disliking dogs. The wife really like him though which was kind of suprising considering he was already pretty big.
So, we're all bummed out and my wife is digging through the paper and internet and finds a Cocker-Poo. We both loved the Golden-Doodles but there weren't any around. So we go look at a litter of Cocker-Doodles or whatever they want to call them (sounds like a bird!). My 8 year old falls in love with the runt. Female that is Chocolate Roan (marbled) with green eyes. The pops is a 25 lb Cocker Spaniel. The ma, a 12 lb Miniature Poodle. We figure "Mocha" will grow to 18 lbs or so. I would have loved to get both dogs, but I'm happy having a puppy that all of my girls love and are happy with.
Slap, I really like the Great Pyrenees. The puppy picture I posted the other night makes me really want to get one... and eventually I will. When the time comes I'll have more questions!
Thanks for all of the responses and I'll get some pictures up soon!
Congratulations! That sounds like a really cute dog. We're looking forward to seeing some puppy pictures of Mocha.
TennBronco
05-19-2007, 03:42 PM
My Briard pup.
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4985/dsc00797nr6.jpg
-Slap-
05-19-2007, 03:45 PM
He looks really smart.
Broncoman13
05-19-2007, 04:48 PM
Congratulations! That sounds like a really cute dog. We're looking forward to seeing some puppy pictures of Mocha.
See my post above... posted at 1546
-Slap-
05-19-2007, 05:00 PM
See my post above... posted at 1546
Oops. How did I miss that?
Nice little pup. Your daughter made a very good choice. Her gave her the sad eyes and it was all over.......:)
Very cute pup 13! Just showed the wife the pics and she's all "awwwwwwwwwwwww" :) Now look what you've done :)
orange 4 life
05-19-2007, 07:26 PM
and need some advice.
My 8 year old is really wanting a dog and I've been wanting one for a while as well. I used to have a Minature Snauzer (sp?) and loved that dog. No shedding and very smart. Anyhow, I'm looking for some help from our many dog lovers on the Mane. I wouldn't mind a larger dog, but I think it would be better off for me to get either a smaller dog or medium size. I would prefer a dog that doesn't shed a whole lot.
My daughter wants a Poodle which is pretty much out of the question for me. Don't know why but I really don't like those dogs. Likewise with Chows.
So, I'm looking for a smart breed that doesn't shed too much. Has to be good around kids (2 year old, 4 year old and 8 year old). 0-40 lbs or so.
Also, would I be better off getting a dog that is a little bit older but still a puppy? Say 8-12 mos. The concern is the chewing age. I'd love to get a puppy at 8-12 weeks, but I'm not sure I have the time to devote to training the puppy and my wife will get frustrated if she tries to train it. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance for the help!
american pitbull terrier. NOT great with other dogs, but it doesnt sound like you have any, so thats not a concern.
as far as reliability with children and reliability with strangers theyre hands down the best breed ive ever been around and my family has worked with shelters all my life so ive been around 'em all.
check out www.dogbreedinfo.com and you'll get alot of valuable info on any and all breeds youre interested in.
go to "all breeds" and then you can click on a particular breed or go to "search by category" and theyll rank the breeds accordingly.
sure, the way a dog is raised is very important, but its NOT everything.
there are certain instincts that are inbred (a pits instinct to be aggressive towards animals and docile towards humans, a shelties instinct to bark and "herd" those around them, etc.) and you want to know what those are before making a decision.
best of luck.
jake
orange 4 life
05-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Shepherds are great with their own kids, but CAN be touchy with outside kids.
true.
i was just thinking how amazing it is that a shepherd can be recommended as a dog to adopt into a family with children and no one bats an eye, but suggest a pitbull terrier (MUCH more reliable with strangers and top notch with kids as well) and people look at you like youre nuts. its a shame.
orange 4 life
05-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Boxers!
Best personality of any dog, best facial expressions, best expressiveness.
They have some cons though. Pretty hyper even well into old age. Dont like extreme weather and prefer air conditioning. Not really "outside" dogs, that is, they are indoor dogs that enjoy spurts outside but dont want to live outside. Essentially prefer the company of people over other dogs and are somewhat prone to being what my wife calls "clingy". They are fantastic with children though and know their own strength, have great patience with kids and really let kids do whatever to them. For instance, my five year old loves to play dress up and particularly loves to play dress up with Scarlet.
Boxers are not for everyone though. You really do have to give them lots of attention because they demand it. They also think they are lap dogs even though fully grown boxers are a bit heavy to be sitting on your lap, they will try to do it anyway.
Failing that, I have no advice for other breeds. All other breeds while great in their own right, are inferior to Boxers. Im biased like that.
popps and i have talked about this before.
exact same things are said about pits. i would make literally identical comments, other than i would add "not good around other animals".
.....and i let mine sit in my lap all the time.
theyre just too damn cute to turn down. are you a sucker too? :giggle:
orange 4 life
05-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Another Shedder. Nothing but love from this one.
my sis had a king charles (he just passed away monday), and while he was a WONDERFUL dog for her, i would NOT have trusted him around young children.
they can be very territorial (he tried to fight my pits every time they came over) and they can be snippy. IMO better suited for families with older children only.
orange 4 life
05-19-2007, 07:48 PM
great pics everyone.
i could talk about dogs all day. sometimes i do. :yayaya: