View Full Version : Favre to Pack: Trade me
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:03 PM
Where's he gonna go?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790?MSNHPHMA
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:16 PM
Hey Brett...remember this guy?
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/PF/FPGBPWalkerJavon.jpg
Northman
05-13-2007, 12:18 PM
All i know is if some team is a contender and they want a veteran Qb i would pick him up.
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:19 PM
Hey Brett...remember this guy?
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/PF/FPGBPWalkerJavon.jpg
;D
All i know is if some team is a contender and they want a veteran Qb i would pick him up.
I'm racking my brain and I can't really think of any. Maybe Dallas if Tony Romo, ya know, plays like what I think is the real Tony Romo...
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:20 PM
HornHeads.
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:21 PM
HornHeads.
Yeah, that'll happen.
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:27 PM
Yeah, that'll happen.
The Vikes will simply use their low draft boats and raid them like they did Paris many times. Oh wait...these are drunk and angry fans. I guess the Vikes need to get drunk and angry too. (just to make it a fair fight)
broncs2bowl
05-13-2007, 12:29 PM
How bout Jay Cutler and a conditional 4rth next year for Brett Farve
Northman
05-13-2007, 12:30 PM
;D
I'm racking my brain and I can't really think of any. Maybe Dallas if Tony Romo, ya know, plays like what I think is the real Tony Romo...
Certainly a possibility. Maybe the Fins? Even though they arent a contender they are really just a few players away from at least toying with the idea. Hell, i wouldnt be shocked it the Browns might consider it to give Quinn some learning time. To me that would be the smart move.
Atwater His Ass
05-13-2007, 12:30 PM
wow
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:30 PM
How bout Jay Cutler and a conditional 4rth next year for Brett Farve
Are you nuts? That's a joke, right? The guy has a gray beard rivaling Moses.
We allready have two good QB's. Perhaps a great one.
Northman
05-13-2007, 12:31 PM
How bout Jay Cutler and a conditional 4rth next year for Brett Farve
Not a Cutler fan eh?
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:31 PM
KC anyone?
Northman
05-13-2007, 12:32 PM
KC anyone?
Maybe.
broncs2bowl
05-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Are you nuts? That's a joke, right? The guy has a gray beard rivaling Moses.
lol yeah it was a joke....as you see Cutler is my Adopt a Bronco. I just wanted to see a little more exitement on the board
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:33 PM
I wouldn't trade Walker back for their first AND Favre.
Moon§hiner
05-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Kansas City would jump on him with dreams of Joe Montana in their heads.
broncs2bowl
05-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Farve I think will go to the Vikes, Maybe Fins, and Maybe Chiefs
chawknz
05-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Wow.. I, uh.. don't know ..uh....wow. Don't know what to say.
Wow.
I bet he'd be good in Atlanta. ROFL!
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Actually he would make sense to KC...feeding time for Champ and Bly. Ha!
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Farve I think will go to the Vikes, Maybe Fins, and Maybe Chiefs
There is no way the Packers would trade Favre to a hated division rival. Green Bay would crumble into the lake.
broncs2bowl
05-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Farve's old ass should just retire instead of being a nuissance
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Don't you find it amusing we have a secondary with Tre, Champ, the Paymaster, the Hangman and the Fox?
MechanicalBull
05-13-2007, 12:37 PM
I doubt he gets traded but it would be funny to see him go to Miami and screw up that deal between KC/Trent Green and Miami if it's even close to happening.
watermock
05-13-2007, 12:40 PM
Actually, the HornHeads and CheeseHeads have a pretty friendly rivalry. They HATE Da Bears tho.
Favre is just going thru that change of life thing.
Maybe the Hornheads will send theirs second round bust QB, three pigs and some Minnesota Lager.
elsid13
05-13-2007, 12:48 PM
interesting. Beside KC, MIA, MINN there is Jax, CAR and Oakland.
Man-Goblin
05-13-2007, 12:55 PM
interesting. Beside KC, MIA, MINN there is Jax, CAR and Oakland.
Jacksonville. I didn't think of that one. I don't buy MIA and Oakland because I really don't think they could contend, and I don't think Carolina would give up on Delholme so soon.
Dagmar
05-13-2007, 12:57 PM
Are you nuts? That's a joke, right? The guy has a gray beard rivaling Moses.
We allready have two good QB's. Perhaps a great one.
Whooooooooooosh!
TheDave
05-13-2007, 12:58 PM
interesting. Beside KC, MIA, MINN there is Jax, CAR and Oakland.
I'll gaurantee they try.... but it won't happen. Farve needs to retire and stop tarnishing his legacy. Normally i'm a believer in guys playing as long as they want but this is just getting pathetic.
Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 01:19 PM
Heh. The Chiefs don't want Brett Favre.
watermock
05-13-2007, 01:32 PM
No...they needed Pat Ramsey.
Bronco_Beerslug
05-13-2007, 01:43 PM
The news was then relayed to head coach Mike McCarthy, who immediately phoned the Super Bowl winning quarterback to squash his anger. However, the quarterback ignored all his calls for a week, perhaps showing the team how upset he was this time.
The sources said that Cook railed off how his client was fed up with the organization and wanted out.
What class act Favre is! I'd love to see him finish his career on the bench!
And to think, it was just one year ago that Favre was championing the most talented team he's ever been on ROFL!
watermock
05-13-2007, 01:48 PM
I don't think anyoone will ever in our lifetime see anyone ride off into the sunset on a White Bronco holding the Lombardi and MVP of the SB in each fist. I'm talking about a last game.
If you wrote this in Hollywood they would laugh at you.
Northman
05-13-2007, 01:54 PM
What class act Favre is! I'd love to see him finish his career on the bench!
And to think, it was just one year ago that Favre was championing the most talented team he's ever been on ROFL!
To be honest the Pack last year exceeded my expectations. I thought they would finish dead last but still managed to have a decent year.
SoCalBronco
05-13-2007, 01:58 PM
Good...I hope his reputation continues to get tarnished...this is what he gets for coming back to break John's all time wins mark. Keep whining, Brett...its great for your legacy!
Popps
05-13-2007, 01:59 PM
Can't blame Favre. Teams like SF, NE and others went out and made moves for vet receivers to make a difference, and GB didn't do ****. For whatever reason, he wanted Moss on board.... and their brass couldn't bring themselves to offer up a 4th rounder.
The ideal scenario is Miami. But, no team has screwed up the QB position like Miami over the last decade.... so, don't look for that to happen.
Northman
05-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Good...I hope his reputation continues to get tarnished...this is what he gets for coming back to break John's all time wins mark. Keep whining, Brett...its great for your legacy!
Wasnt Brett crying about our defense calling out his plays in the Super Bowl? Talk about serious whining. ROFL!
Northman
05-13-2007, 02:01 PM
Can't blame Favre. Teams like SF, NE and others went out and made moves for vet receivers to make a difference, and GB didn't do ****. For whatever reason, he wanted Moss on board.... and their brass couldn't bring themselves to offer up a 4th rounder.
The ideal scenario is Miami. But, no team has screwed up the QB position like Miami over the last decade.... so, don't look for that to happen.
I agree. Green Bay has just been sitting by as if they are fielding a Championship team. Maybe its their way of trying to force Brett into retirement. lol
Broncojef
05-13-2007, 02:33 PM
Why would Farve want to go to the Chefs they have zero receiving corps. He'd be better off staying in GreenBay where he can throw 30 INTs and people still treat him like the ProBowl QB he isn't. Maybe he can get Madden to broker a deal for him he seems to be his biggest fan.
plummershelper
05-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Hey Brett, Bienvenido a Miami!!!
Crushaholic
05-13-2007, 03:01 PM
Indy needs Favre. That Manning guy is a bust...:wave:
broncs2bowl
05-13-2007, 03:21 PM
I hope he gets traded to a team that sees him as a veteran BACKUP!!! HAHAHA! Then he could not get Elways win record
RkyMtnThunder
05-13-2007, 03:31 PM
He probably isnt going anywhere
...........Following the conversation, McCarthy told others inside the organization that the talk appeared to have cooled Favre's anger and that Favre, by the end of the discussion, admitted he didn't want to go elsewhere......
.........Despite Favre's trade request and rant to reporters, the team has no intention of parting ways with their prized quarterback. In fact, some within the organization claim that McCarthy honestly believes they can win with the long-time vet at the helm and has repeatedly told him so.
Thus, they are hoping that Favre simply needed to vent for a while before jumping back on board.
Sounds like a b****/whine session and Farve will likely be playing for the packers this season.
Play for a contender? I think if any team is in need of an aged QB on his last legs - they couldnt possibly be considered a 'contender'
Teams who would have a need for Brett Farve at this stage in his career - will be no better than Green Bay anyways.
Unless he is willing to hold the clipboard - there is no way he would wind up with a 'contender'
elsid13
05-13-2007, 03:32 PM
Jacksonville. I didn't think of that one. I don't buy MIA and Oakland because I really don't think they could contend, and I don't think Carolina would give up on Delholme so soon.
There was a reason that they went a got Carr. Delholme isn't on solid ground due to his play last two seasons. Either CAR or JAX would put themselves in contention to reach the SB with Farve.
KipCorrington25
05-13-2007, 03:46 PM
He sucks anyway. He isn't going to go to a contender and make a difference. In fact he would hurt a contender's chances throwing all those picks.
theAPAOps5
05-13-2007, 03:51 PM
Kansas City would jump on him with dreams of Joe Montana in their heads.
Facing Farve twice a year in his current state. I wouldn't mind that. The last few years he has relied on his gunslinging mentality to make up for his decline in athletic ability. With Champ, bly, and Foxy in the Secondary and all at the same time often I would love that
Meck77
05-13-2007, 03:58 PM
I'll gaurantee they try.... but it won't happen. Farve needs to retire and stop tarnishing his legacy. Normally i'm a believer in guys playing as long as they want but this is just getting pathetic.
Well said.
Even though I got sick of guys like Madden kissing Brett Favre's ass I always respected his blue collar attitude/game but I lost my respect for Favre last year when he readily admitted he wasn't sure if he had what it takes to play in the league anymore after all the BS about whether or not he should have retired last year.
Then it was the Favre soap opera again whether he would play this year. Now he wants a trade?
He's heading down the Emmit Smith path now. Pretty soon he'll be crying on tv like Emmit (man that was pathetic).
Favre should head back down to the Bayou and enjoy some good ole fashion gar fishing.....
Anyone out there a Gar fisherman?Ha!
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9836/ilalligatorgarth1.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ilalligatorgarth1.jpg)
-Slap-
05-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Its been a long time coming. The Packers have been far below the cap for years and haven't made any attempts to put a team around the guy since their last Super Bowl run.
Steve Sewell
05-13-2007, 04:25 PM
Farve I think will go to the Vikes, Maybe Fins, and Maybe Chiefs
Why would he go from a bad to an even worse situation in terms of needing a rebuild cough*KC*cough.
Moon§hiner
05-13-2007, 04:29 PM
I'd enjoy seeing him throw Herm under the bus for not providing him an offensive line....heh
BroncoInferno
05-13-2007, 04:38 PM
Miami would be a logical landing spot. That would leave KC holding the bag with Green.
NYBronco
05-13-2007, 04:42 PM
He would be a good back up for Aaron Rogers. Similar to what's his name backing up Cutler.
Tombstone RJ
05-13-2007, 05:29 PM
Where's he gonna go?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790?MSNHPHMA
If the Atlanta Falcons were smart, they'd give Brett a call...
elsid13
05-13-2007, 05:36 PM
Favre and LJ in the same backfeild might be the best soap opera of the up coming season.
rubaiyat
05-13-2007, 06:05 PM
He probably isnt going anywhere
...........Following the conversation, McCarthy told others inside the organization that the talk appeared to have cooled Favre's anger and that Favre, by the end of the discussion, admitted he didn't want to go elsewhere......
.........Despite Favre's trade request and rant to reporters, the team has no intention of parting ways with their prized quarterback. In fact, some within the organization claim that McCarthy honestly believes they can win with the long-time vet at the helm and has repeatedly told him so.
Thus, they are hoping that Favre simply needed to vent for a while before jumping back on board.
Sounds like a b****/whine session and Farve will likely be playing for the packers this season.
Play for a contender? I think if any team is in need of an aged QB on his last legs - they couldnt possibly be considered a 'contender'
Teams who would have a need for Brett Farve at this stage in his career - will be no better than Green Bay anyways.
Unless he is willing to hold the clipboard - there is no way he would wind up with a 'contender'
I don't know...Baltimore comes close to that.
I agree it ain't likely for the reasons you mentioned, but everything cycles, and if all your team needs is some veteran guy back there, then maybe you do it.
But given Favre's current TD/INT ratio, I wouldn't count on him to manage anything.
rubaiyat
05-13-2007, 06:08 PM
If the Atlanta Falcons were smart, they'd give Brett a call...
That would be hilarious for multiple reasons.
Sassy
05-13-2007, 06:22 PM
That would be hilarious for multiple reasons.
That reminds me...I think I have a Brett rookie card somewhere...
Bronco Bible
05-13-2007, 06:24 PM
I think if little lord Favre leaves GB he lands in KC just an opinion:chefstink
footstepsfrom#27
05-13-2007, 06:25 PM
Favre to the Bears would make a lot of sense, but GB wouln't dream of that or moving him to the Vikes or any other division foe either for that matter. Other possibilities...Skins? Gibbs doesnt' seem overly thrilled with Campbell...doubt he'd want to go there though. Dallas is out...they love Romo...how bout Carolina? They were very close two years ago and Delhomme is obviously not the answer. In the AFC I could see Miami... Cleveland for a year while Quinn learns...how bout Jax? Lots of weapons there and he's a southern boy.
gunns
05-13-2007, 06:26 PM
I'll gaurantee they try.... but it won't happen. Farve needs to retire and stop tarnishing his legacy. Normally i'm a believer in guys playing as long as they want but this is just getting pathetic.
Amen. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. But it would be hilarious to see a team (KC or Oakland) over pay for him.
WoodMan
05-13-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tampa Bay. The Bucs are in deep dodo with Plummer retiring. Hilarious! So now they have Simms (who has disappointed) and Garcia. They really do need a quarterback and they have more for receivers than just Donald Driver.
cutthemdown
05-13-2007, 06:49 PM
what a fraud Favre is. I thought it was Favre that said if you are under contract to shut up and play it out. That's what he told Walker to do. I guess Favre only thinks that way when it comes to other players. What a total hypocrit favre is.
jutang
05-13-2007, 06:56 PM
If Farve pulled a Tom Brady, impregnate all the daughters of the entire FO and then dump everyone of them, burn down Lambeau Field, and then become the spokesman for legalizing marijuana... he might have a slim change of being traded to the Bears =)
Him in a Bears uniform would make it intriguing. Too bad there are some things that will never happen.
BroncoBuff
05-13-2007, 06:57 PM
'cuts' stole my thunder there ... Favre was always the company man - until he had a beef of his own. It always seemed funny to me how this guy - who gets Top 5 player salaries at every renegotiation - can tell others to shut up and play. And now when that same penny-pinching bites him in the butt, he cries us a river. He tried to frame it like "we couldda had Moss for less than New England," but the truth was the fans in Green Bay HATE Moss. You play for THEM, whiney!
Don't we all know that his wife and family want him to retire, and he's coming back only to get Elway's record? I hope he goes to the Chefs, they start 0-9, and his sieve of a line causes him to split a hamstring in Week 10.
That's just a dream scenario though.
Atwater His Ass
05-13-2007, 07:36 PM
I like Favre. I hope he can get something worked out.
rovolution
05-13-2007, 08:46 PM
we should all be grateful to Farve. If it wasn't for his arrogance, Javon probably wouldn't be a Bronco. Even worse, Lilly might still be starting.
I hope he takes the Joe Montana path so he gets to meet our friends Bly and Bailey twice this season. Plus Javon gets double the revenge.
~Crash~
05-13-2007, 10:12 PM
There was a reason that they went a got Carr. Delholme isn't on solid ground due to his play last two seasons. Either CAR or JAX would put themselves in contention to reach the SB with Farve.
Well if they are blaming Delholme maybe the coaches should be called out for no running game and a lousy O line
-Slap-
05-13-2007, 10:23 PM
If he went to Carolina, my sister would lose her mind. Her favorite player on her favorite team.
Meck77
05-13-2007, 10:59 PM
This news is a bit old but it was reported that Moss ran a 4.29/4.30/4.29 40's while working out for Pats and it was confirmed by the Pack. I find that very hard to believe. That is Deion Sanders rookie type speed. If it is true still doesn't help his attitude but that would be impressive for a 9 year vet.
"Sources from the Patriots and the Packers confirmed the 30-year old Moss ran three 40-yard dashes timed at 4.29, 4.30 and 4.29 seconds just last week.
The guy has proven he can play at this level, although that only happens when he feels like it, while every draft pick from No. 1 to Mr. Irrelevant is an unknown commodity."
http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070501/OSH02/70430196/1148
gunns
05-13-2007, 11:02 PM
and he's coming back only to get Elway's record?
Elway did it in his 16th year. Favre will be in his 17th. He may break the numbers but it took him longer.
broncsyanks
05-13-2007, 11:08 PM
snore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same $hit every year. kind of getting board with it
footstepsfrom#27
05-13-2007, 11:29 PM
How long did Steve DeBerg hang around? ??? Favre could hang around another 5 years on somebody's bench if he wants to, even if he's not starting.
Meck77
05-13-2007, 11:45 PM
How long did Steve DeBerg hang around? ??? Favre could hang around another 5 years on somebody's bench if he wants to, even if he's not starting.
Well you make a valid point I guess. He could easily ride some pine.
DeBerg played for 20 years. Not bad for a 10th round pick and a guy who only reached the playoffs a handful of times.
Dr.5280
05-13-2007, 11:53 PM
I love Steve Deberg. Tenacity. Not talent. Just good enough to get ya beat. But he was always there with what he had and gave it his best. A true survivor.
dsmoot
05-14-2007, 12:04 AM
;D
I'm racking my brain and I can't really think of any. Maybe Dallas if Tony Romo, ya know, plays like what I think is the real Tony Romo...
How about returning to Atlanta? Vick can't be around for much longer.
Bret adds the WHINE to the cheese. STFU and play or retire already. I am so tired of his offseason bitch sessions every year.
watermock
05-14-2007, 01:00 AM
http://www.nfluk.com/imagefolder/medium/News%20Item/john-madden.jpg
Brett Favre, Brett Favre, Brett Favre...
BroncoBuff
05-14-2007, 01:28 AM
I love Steve Deberg. Tenacity. Not talent. Just good enough to get ya beat. But he was always there with what he had and gave it his best. A true survivor.
Very nice guy too - very cool.
I knew him a little bit in '83, and for a pretty boy quarterback from a surfer school, he sure is one down to earth, friendly, intelligent guy. I think Broncos fans from the early-mid 80s would be surprised at the personalities of some of the guys. James Wright for example. #87, TE/H-Back. He always seemed to me like a quiet wallflower-type personality. But no sir. The biggest locker-room personality of all ... bigger than life. ALL the young players came to him for advice.
Killericon
05-14-2007, 01:36 AM
http://www.nfluk.com/imagefolder/medium/News%20Item/john-madden.jpg
Brett Favre, Brett Favre, Brett Favre...
If he got traded, I think they'd have to fire Madden. He'd NEVER shut up about that.
Willynowei
05-14-2007, 02:20 AM
Well when your team doesn't draft offense for two years and decides that a 4th round pick is too heavy a price to pay for Randy Moss despite the piss poor offense they had last year..... Then you shouldn't be playing there, especially if your name is Brett Farve.
Maybe he could pull a Plummer, fake retirement and sign with Chicago. Boy, that would put a scare on the rest of the NFC wouldn't it? Sure Farve chucks INTs, but he chucks up a lot of touchdowns as well, whereas Rex is especially adept at chucking up only INTs.
Meck77
05-14-2007, 03:59 AM
http://www.nfluk.com/imagefolder/medium/News%20Item/john-madden.jpg
Brett Favre, Brett Favre, Brett Favre...
LOL
Mock I know it's your tradition to start the nicknaming of the Broncos rookie draft class but I think it's time that ole "Favre don't want to play unless I have Moss" gets a new nickname....
Garcia Bronco
05-14-2007, 08:23 AM
If Jax had any balls they'd pull the trigger on this.
Bronco_Beerslug
05-14-2007, 09:05 AM
Can't blame Favre. Teams like SF, NE and others went out and made moves for vet receivers to make a difference, and GB didn't do ****. For whatever reason, he wanted Moss on board.... and their brass couldn't bring themselves to offer up a 4th rounder.
The ideal scenario is Miami. But, no team has screwed up the QB position like Miami over the last decade.... so, don't look for that to happen.Why not? Isn't this the same whiner who was bitching about someone else on his team who should just shutup and play?
bendog
05-14-2007, 10:05 AM
Come on guys, their GM is right. The Pack can contend next year. (-:
Dagmar
05-14-2007, 12:45 PM
OPINION
By Michael Ventre
MSNBC contributor
I often wonder what goes on inside the war room of an NFL team during the annual draft. I’m sure I can guess: Lots of hushed but frantic chatter, shuffling of index cards, rustling of paper, shoving aside of pizza boxes, and the TV drone of the ESPN crew.
I get all that. What I don’t understand is why it takes teams so long between picks. Surely a team has done so much homework up to that point that, considering which players had been selected and which ones are left, the choice at a particular pick should be a fairly simple matter.
But I guess what I wonder most about is what the Green Bay Packers do on draft day. They must be quite a sight. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in their war room, although the exchanges would probably be fairly monotonous: “What do you think?” followed by “I don’t know. What do you think?”
I bet the only reason the Packers make any decisions at all — and I’m talking not just about the draft but free agency, parking, the brand of bratwurst for the annual picnic, the team’s colors (they’re the same every year, but I’m sure club executives are still unsure) and whether to go with boxers or briefs — is because they’re part of a 32-team collective and the other organizations lean on them to go ahead and choose already.
I bring this up because Brett Favre reportedly has asked the Packers to trade him — he denied it Monday but also said he lets his emotions get the best of him sometimes — and I believe the primary reason he wants to be traded is because the Packers have failed to trade him.
I know what you’re saying: “Huh?” But follow closely.
The Packers are wimps. They’re terrified of Brett Favre. Each year Favre’s future becomes a huge news story, much bigger than it warrants. The Packers sit around on pins and needles waiting for Favre to tell them which direction the franchise will go: with him, or without him. They have to wait for Favre to tell them that because they can’t decide for themselves. They’re frightened that if they got rid of Favre, fan backlash would be fierce enough to require Red Cross intervention.
In fact, Favre has become not just a future Hall of Fame quarterback, but a dictator in the most literal sense, because he is dictating to the people he rules over (the Green Bay Packers) what they will and will not do.
But now a report on the Fox Sports Web site suggests he asked for a trade after the draft because he took a look at the team in its present form, he realizes that it stinks, he understands that the main reason it stinks is because it’s petrified to make a major move and lacks the guts to do something like trade Brett Favre, and so he wants out.
Again, Favre did say in a statement Monday that he doesn't want a deal, and he thinks the team will be pretty good. But that doesn't change the fact that he was peeved at the team for failing to acquire Randy Moss.
If they had simply traded him a couple seasons ago rather than sit and do nothing, he wouldn’t have to ask for a trade now.
See? It’s simple.
The crux is this: Favre is frustrated because he is the front man for a franchise that is going nowhere, and he’s tired of that role. He asked for a trade now because the New England Patriots pulled the trigger and acquired Moss, a wide receiver to which Favre longed to throw.
Because he was so upset that Moss went elsewhere, he decided the Packers were going nowhere. That’s why he reportedly asked for a trade.
But the Moss thing was just the final, high-profile straw. Favre’s underlying dissatisfaction centers on the Packers’ inertia. And there is no better example of that than the team’s indecision on trading Favre.
Favre will be 38 in October, he will be entering his 17th season and he certainly has looked at the NFL world around him with the eyes of a man whose time in the game is rapidly expiring. The six playoff teams in the NFC last season — Philadelphia, Dallas, New York Giants, Chicago, New Orleans and Seattle — arguably should be in contention next season as well. In addition, teams like Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, San Francisco and Arizona all have a shot at competing for a playoff berth.
Over in the AFC, there is even renewed optimism at Raiders’ camp. The Raiders, for Pete’s sake! They were atrocious last season, but there’s talk they could conceivably double their victory total in 2007. That would be four wins, but hey, it’s an improvement.
Favre sees teams taking steps to get better while he sees his Packers doing zilch. Moss is indeed a head case and, if the Packers struggled at some point in the season, Randy is not the type of teammate to pull a Knute Rockne and rally the fellows to follow his inspirational lead. But it was worth the risk. In the right environment, Moss could still be a superstar. Obviously the Patriots felt that way or they wouldn’t have taken on a contract that calls for Moss to receive about $21 million in base salary over the next two seasons.
Favre told the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun-Herald that Moss was willing to “wipe his contract clean” and sign for $3 million guaranteed, but that the Packers were not willing to go for it. Favre even said he was willing to guarantee that portion of the contract out of his own money. Still no deal.
But again, it isn’t just Randy Moss. The Packers have done little to improve other than lock up some of their key defensive players to contracts. It’s foolish to go out and spend money like Daniel Snyder, but it’s equally boneheaded to stand pat when standing pat means settling for mediocrity.
This will all blow over like yesterday’s news. It already started with his statement on the team Web site that he doesn't want a deal. The Packers begin their mandatory minicamp Friday, and Favre might not be there, since he is recovering from surgery in February to remove bone spurs from his left ankle. But if he shows, he’ll make nice and say the trade demand was taken out of context or overblown. If he doesn’t show, the team will spin it to suggest all is well and that he is busy rehabbing.
Yet behind the scenes, Brett Favre would be wise to demand that the team show some gumption by trading Brett Favre.
That’s the kind of decisiveness he’s been waiting to see.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18646038/page/2/
bendog
05-14-2007, 01:45 PM
Naw, mediocrity fits Green Bay. They're the chiefs of their division.
Bronco_Beerslug
05-16-2007, 12:08 PM
This is getting good now! The Packers may start fining Favre for not showing up to mini camp. That ought to heal everyone in Packerland up over this little misunderstanding.
---------------------------------------------------------
Favre wants to stay home but says he's not angry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2871803&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
Updated: May 15, 2007
MILWAUKEE -- Although Brett Favre plans to skip the Green Bay Packers' mandatory minicamp this weekend, he might not be excused by Packers coach Mike McCarthy.
McCarthy was not available for comment Tuesday, but team spokesman Jeff Blumb said that as far as McCarthy was concerned, "the camp is mandatory."
The Packers' three-day minicamp begins Friday, and Favre could face fines from the team if he fails to show up without being formally excused.
Favre told the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun-Herald that because he is unable to practice while recovering from offseason ankle surgery, he is going to stay home in Mississippi -- where he'll apparently try his hand at party planning.
"They were going to have me sit out anyway," Favre said, in a story that appeared on the paper's Web site on Tuesday. "To be honest, we have [daughter] Brittany graduating in two weeks. Instead of going up there and not doing anything, I will be better off being at home because of graduation parties and banquets."
Favre said the move is not related to his frustration with the team's unwillingness to complete a trade for wide receiver Randy Moss.
"I am frustrated," Favre told the paper. "But being frustrated and not going are not related."
Favre spent Saturday grousing about the Packers' front office in a handful of interviews conducted at his charity golf tournament in Tunica, Miss. On Sunday, Fox Sports' Web site reported that Favre's agent requested a trade shortly after the Packers failed to land Moss during the NFL draft last month. Moss instead was traded from Oakland to New England.
Favre issued a statement through the team on Monday saying he didn't want to be traded.
"I was frustrated a couple weeks back when Randy Moss was traded to New England," Favre said. "I never wanted to be traded and I don't want to be traded. I want to be in Green Bay. I want to finish my career as a Packer. Sometimes when I get frustrated I let my emotions get the better of me."
Man-Goblin
05-16-2007, 01:28 PM
And now it's Brittany Favre's fault for graduating. Poor girl.
watermock
05-16-2007, 01:55 PM
Good God it's a 3 day mini camp and graduation if two weeks away. Sorry Brett Brett Brett, but Randyo didn't WANT to bow to you. Get it thru your graybeard brain. That doesn't mean you don't have a right to be pissed when the team brings in one FA, a backup corner.
We snagged about 10, some big names too. Bly, Henry, Graham, Ramsey, McKinley, Holland?. Then we signed some second and third tier fillers/fodder.
Favre is NOT an 11 million dollar QB at this point. He's a 3-5 million dollar QB. Anyone care to guess what the temper tantrum would be if they demanded a paycut? He would be off to the Bayou.
The stone cold fact is he's hangin' around for the greenbacks. He can posture all he wants, but when your getting 1M per start when you factor in his SB, hell yes, I would be a Klingon too.
I wouldn't trade Ramsey for Favre because he's a control freak, over the hill and way way too expensive/high maintainance.
I have a feeling we will never have a sniveling spoiled brat in Jay. All he has to do is stay healthy, play to his ability and he's going to be a very rich man when he hangs up the jock. Hell, he's not on skid row allready with over 12 million pocketed before paying Uncle Sam his extortion payoff. OK OK...I know...enough man-crush mock.
Favre needs to buy a vowel. Moss didn't want to come to GB. I don't blame him honestly. I'm always amused how Moss said "I've always wanted to wear the Silver and Black" One year later he was ready to bolt.
Bronco Bible
06-23-2007, 03:22 PM
Elway did it in his 16th year. Favre will be in his 17th. He may break the numbers but it took him longer.
Heck, being in the record book good or bad is what Favre is all about,did he or did he not take a dive for Strahan so he would be listed as the record breaking sack JMO but I think I am correct.
Man-Goblin
06-23-2007, 04:08 PM
Heck, being in the record book good or bad is what Favre is all about,did he or did he not take a dive for Strahan so he would be listed as the record breaking sack JMO but I think I am correct.
Concord eh? I live in Mooresville. Know any places where Bronco fans get together in Charlotte? I'm looking for a new place to watch the games this year...
Kaylore
06-23-2007, 04:08 PM
Heck, being in the record book good or bad is what Favre is all about,did he or did he not take a dive for Strahan so he would be listed as the record breaking sack JMO but I think I am correct.
And think how his line felt after that. If I was a tackle and my QB did that because he thought it would be "cutsie" I'd want to punch him in the nuts. What a joke.
Los Broncos
06-23-2007, 04:11 PM
And think how his line felt after that. If I was a tackle and my QB did that because he thought it would be "cutsie" I'd want to punch him in the nuts. What a joke.
I felt the same way about him laying down for the sack, pretty weak.
jacksonville, miami, kc, minnesota, and cleveland are all teams i think could show interest
SportinOne
06-23-2007, 06:08 PM
Naw, mediocrity fits Green Bay. They're the chiefs of their division.
This just simply isn't true.
They are the only team to win a Super Bowl out of that division in the last 20 years. Until the Broncos beat them in the big game, they were pretty much America's team and were contending every single year. Had it not been for the Cowboys and their trio of hall of famers, the Packers would probably have at least one more championship under their belts. The Lions and Bears would be lucky to be called the Chiefs of their own division. Sure, the Bears made it to one Super Bowl but since 85 they have been one big joke. Then you have the Vikings. Made the playoffs consistantly, had winning seasons, never went anywhere. Sound a little more like the Chiefs?
I don't know if it is all Bronco fans or just this message board that seems to hate everything that is Favre or the Packers. I hope no one is still bitter about being huge underdogs in the Super Bowl. We won that game, remember?
Bronco Bible
06-23-2007, 08:58 PM
Concord eh? I live in Mooresville. Know any places where Bronco fans get together in Charlotte? I'm looking for a new place to watch the games this year...
I have lived here for 15 years Goblin ,and have never heard of anyplace for Bronco fans to gather.
Tombstone RJ
06-23-2007, 10:33 PM
This just simply isn't true.
They are the only team to win a Super Bowl out of that division in the last 20 years. Until the Broncos beat them in the big game, they were pretty much America's team and were contending every single year. Had it not been for the Cowboys and their trio of hall of famers, the Packers would probably have at least one more championship under their belts. The Lions and Bears would be lucky to be called the Chiefs of their own division. Sure, the Bears made it to one Super Bowl but since 85 they have been one big joke. Then you have the Vikings. Made the playoffs consistantly, had winning seasons, never went anywhere. Sound a little more like the Chiefs?
I don't know if it is all Bronco fans or just this message board that seems to hate everything that is Favre or the Packers. I hope no one is still bitter about being huge underdogs in the Super Bowl. We won that game, remember?
Duuuude! Your missing the point about Favre, so I'll tell you why we all can't stand him: he's a prima donna!
Ok, let me go a little farther:
Favre is a great QB, and he's got MVP's to show for it, and a ring. But the reality is, he should have retired at least 3 seasons ago. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is playing to compete for another SB. However, when you look at what he says he wants, and what he actually is getting are two different things.
Fact: the Packers have not been contenderss since the Broncos wooped them in the SB
Fact: Favre says he just wants another ring!
Reality: When Holmgren left GB, the Packers, IMO, never made any real attempt to build a team around Favre. He keeps saying he wants another ring but I think he's just playing for stats.
IMO: He's a selfish player. He's already going into the HOF, but he wants more stats. One of the stats he wants is Elways winning record. IMO, he's a POS, only interested in padding his stats. If he was really interested in another ring, he would have forced a trade along time ago. But, he's just "acting" like he cares.
maher_tyler
06-24-2007, 06:01 AM
Duuuude! Your missing the point about Favre, so I'll tell you why we all can't stand him: he's a prima donna!
Ok, let me go a little farther:
Favre is a great QB, and he's got MVP's to show for it, and a ring. But the reality is, he should have retired at least 3 seasons ago. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is playing to compete for another SB. However, when you look at what he says he wants, and what he actually is getting are two different things.
Fact: the Packers have not been contenderss since the Broncos wooped them in the SB
Fact: Favre says he just wants another ring!
Reality: When Holmgren left GB, the Packers, IMO, never made any real attempt to build a team around Favre. He keeps saying he wants another ring but I think he's just playing for stats.
IMO: He's a selfish player. He's already going into the HOF, but he wants more stats. One of the stats he wants is Elways winning record. IMO, he's a POS, only interested in padding his stats. If he was really interested in another ring, he would have forced a trade along time ago. But, he's just "acting" like he cares.
I'm starting to think the samething..i mean look at their offense..it's terrible at best..just retire already!!
Paladin
06-24-2007, 06:22 AM
But, as has been mentioned a few times around here, he'll always have Madden.......
gunns
06-24-2007, 10:51 AM
Heck, being in the record book good or bad is what Favre is all about,did he or did he not take a dive for Strahan so he would be listed as the record breaking sack JMO but I think I am correct.
Could not agree more.
Circle Orange
07-17-2007, 08:24 AM
Elway did it in his 16th year. Favre will be in his 17th. He may break the numbers but it took him longer.
again, regular season wins only...the media keeps spinning it to make other guys look good. Favre is 2-9 in the playoffs since his last superbowl. No one is gonna convince me all those teams were poor, as the sports media tries to sell.
So retire, Brett...you're boring everyone.