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BroncoBuff
05-13-2007, 05:53 AM
Dwayne Bowe = Chris Cole ?

. . . . Or ...

Dwayne Bowe = Darius Watts ?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5530/74077797kc5.jpg



VOTE!

TheChamp24
05-13-2007, 07:18 AM
Its so hard to choose...
Can't I vote a tie and say he'll end up like Chris Watts or Darius Cole?

Steve Sewell
05-13-2007, 08:56 AM
He'll be slightly more successful than Sylvester Morris.

Hawaii_Guy
05-13-2007, 09:06 AM
How about an area for Keven Kasper?

MechanicalBull
05-13-2007, 09:53 AM
What's the point of him showing up at all? Everyone knows they are going to run the ball every play and wear out LJ.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnTInfg3Fnsdqp19jTEpKxpDubYF?slug=ap-chiefs-rookies&prov=ap&type=lgns

Then the 6-foot-3 Bowe, who described himself on draft day as "intimidating," proceeded to drop several passes.

He also caught quite a few, and looked good doing it. But he did admit that for this one afternoon at least, he did not feel quite so intimidating.
"Today I felt kind of in-between, going against new guys, new quarterback," he said, "Not knowing the timing. But it's all football. You've got to go out there and compete."
He said he was late because he "had some things to do."
"Just a minor thing," he said.
His tardiness was not lost on a new boss who puts a premium on punctuality. "I don't know. I think he had a shoe problem," Edwards said. "That's what those big guys have. You know, when they get those big contracts they don't know what shoes to wear, I guess. I don't know. But he was here. He started practicing. He was in the drills. He dropped some balls and I told him relax. You gotta love Herm making fun of his first round pick already. :rofl: It's only the first day and every rookie on every team is going to probably not look good but it's still funny.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 10:04 AM
It was an excused absence.

The rest of this thread is just wishin' and hopin' because Dwayne Bowe is going to EVISCERATE your secondary.

Dukes
05-13-2007, 10:06 AM
Looks like boob has his dictionary handy today Ha!

Inkana7
05-13-2007, 10:13 AM
Bobo, you do know that the rookie will be attempting to "Eviscerate" Dre Bly, a 2-time pro bolwer, right? And if not, he'll be attempting to "Eviscerate" Champ Bailey. I hope Bowe can handle being "Intimidating" while trying to "Eviscerate" with no catches.

You make me laugh, fat man.

watermock
05-13-2007, 10:26 AM
I thought you were supposed to be on UNEXCUSED ABSENCE Bobo.

Tre Bly, Champ and Lynch are afraid...very afraid. Tiny footsteps, in your head, makes you tremble, gator arms.

Billy Clyde Puckett
05-13-2007, 11:25 AM
"I think he had a shoe problem," Edwards said. "That's what those big guys have. You know, when they get those big contracts they don't know what shoes to wear, I guess. I don't know"

That doesn't sound like an excused absence to me

Kaylore
05-13-2007, 11:31 AM
Joking aside, he doesn't resemble any of the players up there at all. I guess Chris Cole is the closest, but not real great selections. We'll see how he'll pan out, but I feel like he's a good fit for the Chiefs.

Of course when you read stuff like this:

Then the 6-foot-3 Bowe, who described himself on draft day as "intimidating," proceeded to drop several passes.

He also caught quite a few, and looked good doing it. But he did admit that for this one afternoon at least, he did not feel quite so intimidating.
"Today I felt kind of in-between, going against new guys, new quarterback," he said, "Not knowing the timing. But it's all football. You've got to go out there and compete."
He said he was late because he "had some things to do."
"Just a minor thing," he said.
His tardiness was not lost on a new boss who puts a premium on punctuality. "I don't know. I think he had a shoe problem," Edwards said. "That's what those big guys have. You know, when they get those big contracts they don't know what shoes to wear, I guess. I don't know. But he was here. He started practicing. He was in the drills. He dropped some balls and I told him relax.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnTInfg3Fnsdqp19jTEpKxpDubYF?slug=ap-chiefs-rookies&prov=ap&type=lgns

You gotta love Herm making fun of his first round pick already. :rofl: It's only the first day and every rookie on every team is going to probably not look good but it's still funny.

That right there is pretty funny. Not a good start for Bowe. His head's not in the right place.

WoodMan
05-13-2007, 12:04 PM
It's no wonder that LJ is upset with his contract. A Rook is wearing Ostrich leather shoes and all he can afford is a pair of old Bass wegens.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 01:17 PM
I don't think Bowe has signed.

TheChamp24
05-13-2007, 02:32 PM
So Bobo aka "I'm an idiot who loves the cock", Bowe is going to tear it up for KC, huh, just like that Sylvester Morris did? I hear he's pretty good, where is he now?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 02:33 PM
Marcus Nash hurrrrrr

Hercules Rockefeller
05-13-2007, 02:54 PM
Marcus Nash hurrrrrr

Wow, smack from the '98 draft. Someone's really reaching.

sixtimeseight
05-13-2007, 03:35 PM
Marcus Nash hurrrrrr

When you're coming off a Super Bowl win, you have the luxury of being able to whiff on a first round pick or two. How's that working out for the Chiefs, fatass?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 03:39 PM
Wow, smack from the '98 draft. Someone's really reaching.

Like your fellow Bronco fan...

theAPAOps5
05-13-2007, 03:48 PM
Please don't quote the fat ass. I have him on ignore and while I love reading the smack towards him I catch some of his retarded drivel. Oh and for bobo who probably isn't past See Dick run books drivel means:

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Hercules Rockefeller
05-13-2007, 04:04 PM
Like your fellow Bronco fan...

Sly Mo was a '98 pick? Try again.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 04:07 PM
Sly Mo was a '98 pick? Try again.

Sly Mo was a 2000 pick. Who cares? Same difference.

I could easily bring up Ashley Lelie if you care.

Ugly Duck
05-13-2007, 04:41 PM
It's only the first day and every rookie on every team is going to probably not look good but it's still funny.

Jamarcus Russell had a few miscues as well. Here's how John Clayton of ESPN sees it:

Russell gave me some flashbacks to Bradshaw. Some of his long throws Friday were held up a little by the wind, but Russell throws mostly spirals and throws them with both touch and velocity. As with Bradshaw, Elway and other strong-arm quarterbacks, the ball explodes off Russell's big right hand.

"Somebody hired a Jugs machine and put a jersey on it," wide receiver Jerry Porter joked. "Man, he can throw. I can see why he's the first overall pick. One word -- wow."

Russell's best throw was a square-in pass -- about 15 yards downfield -- to Louisiana Tech rookie receiver Johnathan Holland. Six hands from three Raiders defenders reached for the perfectly thrown spiral. Their mission was hopeless. Only a cement wall would have stopped this completion. Holland caught the ball in stride with his hands.

Sapp joked after practice that No. 18 [Holland] probably needed a rubdown after that reception.

"If nothing else, we're going to learn to catch with our hands or somebody's going to the hospital for some trauma," Sapp said. "That kid's got a live arm, so let's have some fun with it."

"But he throws a catchable ball," Holland said about Russell. "It's a tight spiral, and it's coming right at you. He's got great arm delivery."

Russell's height helps receivers. He stands tall in the pocket, and his delivery makes life easier for those catching. Even though he's 6-6, Russell releases the ball at about 6-8, giving receivers an extra half-second to spot the ball and pick up on its rotation.

Like so many of the great throwers, he understands the mechanics of throwing. He's athletic enough to set up quickly. His legs naturally fall into place directly below the width of his shoulders. By doing that, Russell is always in position to throw if a defender closes in. The positioning of his feet allows him to put the power of his 254-pound frame on his throws.

New Raiders coach Lane Kiffin doesn't have to work much with Russell's mechanics. But that doesn't mean the Raiders start with a finished product. About twice a practice this weekend, Russell pulled out of center a little early and fumbled snaps. A few times, he threw to areas where no receiver was present, a miscommunication that has to be worked out in time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...john&id=2862676

Hercules Rockefeller
05-13-2007, 04:43 PM
Sly Mo was a 2000 pick. Who cares? Same difference.

I could easily bring up Ashley Lelie if you care.

Yeah, because Lelie was a bust. Try reaching again.

Barry Ramey
05-13-2007, 04:51 PM
It was an excused absence.

The rest of this thread is just wishin' and hopin' because Dwayne Bowe is going to EVISCERATE your secondary.


That's why you voted that Cole and Watts were too flattering a comparison Hilarious!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 05:01 PM
Yeah, because Lelie was a bust. Try reaching again.

Lelie was definitely a bust.

Killericon
05-13-2007, 05:07 PM
Lelie was definitely a bust.

Hmm...He averaged 750 yards a season, at 17.8 yards per catch while in Denver.

You're right. That's terrible production. He should've looked to Eddie Kennison in KC for guidance. I mean, HE's averaged 740 yards per season while over there, and as you've told us so many times, he's a fantastic wideout. :~ohyah!:

WoodMan
05-13-2007, 05:12 PM
Jamarcus Russell had a few miscues as well. Here's how John Clayton of ESPN sees it:

Russell gave me some flashbacks to Bradshaw. Some of his long throws Friday were held up a little by the wind, but Russell throws mostly spirals and throws them with both touch and velocity. As with Bradshaw, Elway and other strong-arm quarterbacks, the ball explodes off Russell's big right hand.

"Somebody hired a Jugs machine and put a jersey on it," wide receiver Jerry Porter joked. "Man, he can throw. I can see why he's the first overall pick. One word -- wow."

Russell's best throw was a square-in pass -- about 15 yards downfield -- to Louisiana Tech rookie receiver Johnathan Holland. Six hands from three Raiders defenders reached for the perfectly thrown spiral. Their mission was hopeless. Only a cement wall would have stopped this completion. Holland caught the ball in stride with his hands.

Sapp joked after practice that No. 18 [Holland] probably needed a rubdown after that reception.

"If nothing else, we're going to learn to catch with our hands or somebody's going to the hospital for some trauma," Sapp said. "That kid's got a live arm, so let's have some fun with it."

"But he throws a catchable ball," Holland said about Russell. "It's a tight spiral, and it's coming right at you. He's got great arm delivery."

Russell's height helps receivers. He stands tall in the pocket, and his delivery makes life easier for those catching. Even though he's 6-6, Russell releases the ball at about 6-8, giving receivers an extra half-second to spot the ball and pick up on its rotation.

Like so many of the great throwers, he understands the mechanics of throwing. He's athletic enough to set up quickly. His legs naturally fall into place directly below the width of his shoulders. By doing that, Russell is always in position to throw if a defender closes in. The positioning of his feet allows him to put the power of his 254-pound frame on his throws.

New Raiders coach Lane Kiffin doesn't have to work much with Russell's mechanics. But that doesn't mean the Raiders start with a finished product. About twice a practice this weekend, Russell pulled out of center a little early and fumbled snaps. A few times, he threw to areas where no receiver was present, a miscommunication that has to be worked out in time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...john&id=2862676

Let the slobnobbery fest began. One practice and he is the greatest thing since, well Michael Vick.

theAPAOps5
05-13-2007, 05:17 PM
I am sure he can throw perfect in practice. So did Cutler but in the game well there were moments of greatness and then there were duds. I am sure Russel will be the same way. ESPN is setting up a slob fest because of his impending endorsements and their ties to ESPN.

Hercules Rockefeller
05-13-2007, 05:26 PM
Lelie was definitely a bust.

Yeah, leading the league twice in ypc and having a 1,000 yd season = bust

You're just getting desperate now, but I wouldn't expect much from someone who wrote an article about giving Croyle a chance in KC without ever using examples of Croyle's physical or mental makeup as a reason for KC fans to give him a chance.

ludo21
05-13-2007, 05:30 PM
i think he will be decent, but will never flourish in KC, especially with their OL and QB situation in dissaray.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 05:30 PM
Yeah, leading the league twice in ypc and having a 1,000 yd season = bust


Hahaha. Whatever. Lelie is a flat-out bust. One decent season doesn't change that.

theAPAOps5
05-13-2007, 05:33 PM
Lelie is now a bust but when he was with Denver he was decent number 2 or 3 reciever stuff. He just thinks he is number 1 kind of like Quitter Kennison. They are really similar in a lot of ways now that I think about it.

Moon§hiner
05-13-2007, 05:33 PM
At least we got something for Lelie besides some production while he was here, we moved up in the draft....Chief fans are still holding out hopes for a number 4 for Trent or let him rot. He will rot and the money could have been better spent of free agent offensive lineman that may not even make the team instead of making him sit. I should take out a life insurance policy on Carl Peterson.

Hercules Rockefeller
05-13-2007, 05:42 PM
Hahaha. Whatever. Lelie is a flat-out bust. One decent season doesn't change that.

Sure he is, but then again you thought he had good hands for giving handjobs so we know what your hopes are for him off the field.

You've dug yourself a hole in this thread, and you can't stop digging deeper every time you post. If Lelie is a flat-out bust, what does that make Sly Mo?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 05:45 PM
A flat-out bust and I never said otherwise.

BroncoBuff
05-13-2007, 06:42 PM
Hahaha. Whatever. Lelie is a flat-out bust. One decent season doesn't change that.

You're a knothead Clayton.

Lemme help you out: Ashley Lelie was definitely NOT a bust. However, Marcus Nash, Sylvester Morris and (going back a bit) Anthony Hancock were, in fact, 1st round WR busts. 1st round RB busts include Paul Palmer, Harvey Williams, Greg Hill. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/teams/KC

Moon§hiner
05-13-2007, 07:10 PM
Don't forget the genius of drafting Mike Cloud in the second round...think his season high was 120 yards or so...that was 1999 though, so that doesn't count either..Long live King Carl!!
edit....that was total yards for the season so don't start jacking off bob

cutthemdown
05-13-2007, 07:21 PM
Lelie was definitely a bust.

1000 yrd yr, traded for a 3rd and a 4th round pick. The definition of bust is a player who returns no value for the team in either play or trade. Care to respond to that. Lelie isn't a great draft pick, he isn't a bust. He is in between.

theAPAOps5
05-13-2007, 07:23 PM
1000 yrd yr, traded for a 3rd and a 4th round pick. The definition of bust is a player who returns no value for the team in either play or trade. Care to respond to that. Lelie isn't a great draft pick, he isn't a bust. He is in between.

Don't bother you are presenting facts that is a totally foreign language to Boob

BroncoBuff
05-13-2007, 07:26 PM
The definition of bust is a player who returns no value for the team in either play or trade.

Excellent definition. And that's why even Willie Middlebrooks is NOT a bust. He was a highly serviceable backup and special teamer.

And in fact Middlebrooks is STILL on the roster: His name is John Engleberger.

Atwater His Ass
05-13-2007, 07:27 PM
Don't bother you are presenting facts that is a totally foreign language to Boob

qft

Atwater His Ass
05-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Excellent definition. And that's why even Willie Middlebrooks is NOT a bust. He was a highly serviceable backup and special teamer.

And in fact Middlebrooks is STILL on the roster: His name is John Engleberger.

I think you are stretching it a bit. There is a higher standard for 1st rounders. You don't draft them with hopes of them being servicable backups/special teamers, or traded for other backup players.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2007, 07:56 PM
The definition of bust is a player who returns no value for the team in either play or trade.

Great! So Ryan Sims is officially NOT a bust! WOOHOO! !Booya!

azbroncfan
05-13-2007, 08:43 PM
Hahaha. Whatever. Lelie is a flat-out bust. One decent season doesn't change that.

Lelie being a bust must mean Kennison is a bust too. Comparable careers for the first 5.

But really don't know why you get all worked up over early reports from training camp. Anyone remember the crap reports Sal Pal reported on Cutler.

NW Bolt Fan
05-13-2007, 09:42 PM
Bolts got the "good" wideout from LSU- about 10 or so picks later. Craig Davis.

Paladin
05-13-2007, 09:51 PM
Maybe....

OrangeShadow
05-13-2007, 10:12 PM
wheres the choice for who gives a damn, id like to focus on the denver broncos?

Inkana7
05-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Bolts got the "good" wideout from LSU- about 10 or so picks later. Craig Davis.

You mean the one rated much lower and should have been an early 2nd?

Bronx33
05-14-2007, 12:03 AM
It was an excused absence.

The rest of this thread is just wishin' and hopin' because Dwayne Bowe is going to EVISCERATE your secondary.


Sweet! this years bobo beat down is already underway.

NW Bolt Fan
05-14-2007, 12:40 AM
You mean the one rated much lower and should have been an early 2nd?
Yep. Exactly. Like the draft where a certain Georgia player who probably should have slid out of the entire draft because of where he was rated, but was "luckily" picked up in the 6th round...

Killericon
05-14-2007, 01:32 AM
Yep. Exactly. Like the draft where a certain Georgia player who probably should have slid out of the entire draft because of where he was rated, but was "luckily" picked up in the 6th round...

Why are there quotation marks around luckily? What are you insinuating here?

NW Bolt Fan
05-14-2007, 08:56 PM
Why are there quotation marks around luckily? What are you insinuating here?
Because he could have easily slipped out of the draft altogether. No one knew he'd be the player he was, including the Broncos, or they'd have taken him much earlier. Any team would have.

theAPAOps5
05-14-2007, 09:02 PM
Any team who has a player turn out the way TD did for us has to be considered at least a little bit lucky. Thats just a round where you aren't expecting to hit a home run. New England got lucky with Brady, did anyone really think he was going to be this great when he was at Michigan.

watermock
05-14-2007, 09:23 PM
If Bobo is looking knob slobbering over Ms. Lilly he's jacking off on the wrong tree. The stone cold fact is that in that three way trade, but Lelie and Duckett were released. We got a third and 4th rounder.

All things considered, with his irrational behavior about being a #1 reciever, we got more for that moron that we could of hoped for. At least in SF, he will have a shorter flight to home when he busts again.

watermock
05-14-2007, 09:34 PM
Any team who has a player turn out the way TD did for us has to be considered at least a little bit lucky. Thats just a round where you aren't expecting to hit a home run. New England got lucky with Brady, did anyone really think he was going to be this great when he was at Michigan.

Get real...SOB was given the job on merit not fame at Michigan. Hilarious! Since he's the next Montana maybe he can hook back up with Ms. Lilly so he can get someone who can really deliver the ball downfield.

That's what the most incredibly baffling...we bring in a kid that can throw a rock 70 yards on a rope and he wants out. There are numerous analogies. One is the lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...another is you can buy the rope but you have to hang YOURSELF or something like that.

I thought Sly Morris would be a good WR. I was leery of the Nash pick. I hated the Middlebrooks pick when Shaun Rogers was on the board. I was positive we were moving up to take him and astounded.

Regardless, you can go thru many draft histories to find horrible picks. Unfortunately, many wound up as the Browncos. Hilarious!

maven
05-15-2007, 02:29 AM
Dwayne Bowe = Chris Cole ?

. . . . Or ...

Dwayne Bowe = Darius Watts ?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5530/74077797kc5.jpg



VOTE!

1 day? You are posting a lot of lame threads these days, BB.

Steve Sewell
05-15-2007, 09:49 AM
Don't forget the genius of drafting Mike Cloud in the second round...think his season high was 120 yards or so...that was 1999 though, so that doesn't count either..Long live King Carl!!
edit....that was total yards for the season so don't start jacking off bob

Confidence level that that Bob will follow your advice: 0.

400HZ
05-15-2007, 04:17 PM
It sounds like Robert Meachem is having similar problems.

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-30/1179121108203970.xml&coll=1

p7superfly
05-15-2007, 04:31 PM
I like Bowe. Russell too.

It's a shame I'll have to reprogram my brain to hate them.

I think they'll both be good players.

Bowe just had 'one of those days' ... I don't blame him. Herm Edwards is freaking hilarious though. I think a few of these first round picks need to be knocked down a notch.

BroncoBuff
05-15-2007, 07:17 PM
1 day? You are posting a lot of lame threads these days, BB.

Whatever you say Britney.

Inkana7
05-15-2007, 07:39 PM
I like Bowe. Russell too.

It's a shame I'll have to reprogram my brain to hate them.

I think they'll both be good players.

Bowe just had 'one of those days' ... I don't blame him. Herm Edwards is freaking hilarious though. I think a few of these first round picks need to be knocked down a notch.

Know who Hermy always reminded me of? Jackie Chiles from Seinfeld.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/JackieChiles.jpg
"Of course a bra's not going to fit on over a leotard. A bra's got to fit right up against a person's skin...like a glove!"