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dragondawg
05-09-2007, 03:57 AM
BALLHAWKS

Bailey, Bly tandem could lead to more turnovers for Broncos

By FRANK SCHWAB THE GAZETTE

ENGLEWOOD - Denver Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey is planning on some more boring Sundays this fall, at least early in the season.

Opposing quarterbacks usually ignore Bailey, who was second in the NFL Defensive Player of the Year voting last season.

Bailey expects the same outcome in September even though the Broncos traded for Dre Bly, a former Pro Bowl cornerback with Detroit, this offseason.

“Based on the last two years, they’re going to try him before they try me,” said Bailey, who has 18 interceptions the past two seasons despite few passes thrown his way.

Bailey hopes that will change. He fig- ures Bly, who has 33 career interceptions, will get most of the action early on. If opponents can’t beat Bly, they will have to try something else.

“If he’s picking balls, they got to come to my side,” Bailey said. “There’s no way they can avoid me and be successful.”

Bailey benefited the past two seasons from playing opposite Darrent Williams, who Bailey said was the best cornerback he has played with. Bailey played with Darrell Green and Deion Sanders in Washington, but both were past their prime.

Bailey set a career high in interceptions each of his two seasons with Williams. Williams was shot and killed Jan. 1, which led to the Broncos trading for Bly.

Bly went to the Pro Bowl in 2003 and 2004. Bly, who like Bailey was rarely tested as Detroit’s top cornerback the past few seasons, is excited about getting more passes thrown his way.

“It’s scary,” Bly said. “Me and Champ have had a lot of success. Teams are going to have to pick wisely.”

The Broncos built a defense they think can create many turnovers. New assistant head coach/defense Jim Bates will play a lot of tight man-to-man coverage, and he said he will stress turnovers in practice.

Denver invested heavily in its pass rush on draft day, selecting three defensive linemen, including ends Jarvis Moss and Tim Crowder, with its first two picks. If the pass rush improves, Bly and Bailey should benefit.

They also plan to create their own opportunities. Both play aggressively, and Bly doesn’t plan on backing off.

“I’m a very confident guy,” Bly said. “Everybody always says I gamble, my whole career. Well, if I’m a gambler, I’m a dag-gone good gambler because I’ve been winning a lot my whole career.”

Bailey is confident, too. There are fewer shut-down cornerbacks in the NFL because many recent rule changes benefited receivers, but the Broncos feel they have two.

“If you look at talent I think we are the best tandem,” Bailey said.

Nash autopsy inconclusive

An autopsy on Broncos running back Damien Nash found no drugs or unnatural substances in his system. An exact cause of death could not be determined, the St. Louis County medical examiner’s office told The Associated Press.

Nash, 24, collapsed and died Feb. 24 after a charity basketball game he hosted in St. Louis, his hometown, to benefit The Darris Nash Find a Heart Foundation, named after his 25-year-old brother.

“It was a natural death of cardiac origin, but we were unable to determine the exact origin,” the medical examiner’s representative said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report

PICK OF THE LITTER
Champ Bailey and Dre Bly were drafted in 1999. They rank second and fourth in the NFL in interceptions since then:

1. Darren Sharper, Green Bay-Minnesota 47

2. Champ Bailey, Washington-Denver 39

3. Tory James, Denver-Oakland-Cincy* 37

4. Dre Bly, St. Louis-Detroit** 33 (tie)

5. Ty Law, New England-Jets-K.C. 32 (tie) 5. Patrick Surtain, Miami-K.C. 32

http://www2.gazette.com/broncos/display.php?id=1331053

Natedogg
05-09-2007, 04:46 AM
BALLHAWKS

Bailey benefited the past two seasons from playing opposite Darrent Williams, who Bailey said was the best cornerback he has played with. Bailey played with Darrell Green and Deion Sanders in Washington, but both were past their prime.

Interesting paragraph. I forgot about CB's mentors in Wash.

RIP Nash.

dragondawg
05-09-2007, 07:57 AM
hope bly can cover reggie wayne or put him on harrison and lt champ cover wayne

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 09:09 AM
Bailey has been making his money playing OFF of the player. This is going to be something different for him. He MIGHT have more blown plays against him as well. A lot is going to depend on can the pass rush do more than look good on paper. No pass rush. No turnovers.

12th man
05-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Bailey has been making his money playing OFF of the player. This is going to be something different for him. He MIGHT have more blown plays against him as well. A lot is going to depend on can the pass rush do more than look good on paper. No pass rush. No turnovers.

Im hoping Bates will just let Champ do his thing the way he has been doing it, and just have Bly play man.

Atwater His Ass
05-09-2007, 11:06 AM
I just want to win. I don't care how many or how few int's Bailey and Bly get as long as we are winning football games.

BlaK-Argentina
05-09-2007, 11:14 AM
So many things to watch this year... the d-line, o-line, DJ at MLB, Champ and Bly, Marshall, Cutler, Scheffler and Bell as they start their second year...

Football can't come soon enough.

Los Broncos
05-09-2007, 01:30 PM
hope bly can cover reggie wayne or put him on harrison and lt champ cover wayne

I would love to see Champ cover Wayne, but they would just go to Marvin if they switched.

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Marvin is taking a step backward next year but the Colts are still spreading the ball around.

Reggie Wayne owned Champ when he tried to man up to him. It was about even towards the end of the game but it was not pretty.

Los Broncos
05-09-2007, 01:57 PM
Marvin is taking a step backward next year but the Colts are still spreading the ball around.

Reggie Wayne owned Champ when he tried to man up to him. It was about even towards the end of the game but it was not pretty.

Yeah ur right, with Manning throwing its pretty unfair to being with.

dragondawg
05-09-2007, 07:23 PM
i think bailey is best when he plays off the ball

Los Broncos
05-09-2007, 07:25 PM
i think bailey is best when he plays off the ball

I love the way he tackles.

konnorrollison
05-09-2007, 07:29 PM
good read

Kaylore
05-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Marvin is taking a step backward next year but the Colts are still spreading the ball around.

Reggie Wayne owned Champ when he tried to man up to him. It was about even towards the end of the game but it was not pretty.

You mean D-wil. Reggie Wayne never owned Champ.

Los Broncos
05-09-2007, 07:37 PM
You mean D-wil. Reggie Wayne never owned Champ.

I was wrong too.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-09-2007, 07:42 PM
Yeah, Reggie never really lined up against champ. Yes, Bailey had a lot of success playing off the ball, but he's such an exceptional player, that he'll do fine in man to man too...esp. if the pass rush is capable. I wouldn't worry. He's the best for a reason

cdesignmaster
05-09-2007, 07:43 PM
Marvin is taking a step backward next year but the Colts are still spreading the ball around.

Reggie Wayne owned Champ when he tried to man up to him. It was about even towards the end of the game but it was not pretty.

True, but was there any sort of pass rush? Champ can man up, but it's not reasonable to expect anyone to hang with a reciever for those extra 2-4 seconds without a pass rush.

Bronco Billy
05-09-2007, 07:51 PM
Yeah, Reggie never really lined up against champ. Yes, Bailey had a lot of success playing off the ball, but he's such an exceptional player, that he'll do fine in man to man too...esp. if the pass rush is capable. I wouldn't worry. He's the best for a reason

Bailey does play great man-to-man. The big difference between playing man-to-man and playing off the receiver is he SHUTS down his half of the field when he plays off the receiver. Remember his INT vs. Leinart. Leinart wasn't even throwing to Champ's receiver.

Willynowei
05-09-2007, 08:02 PM
You mean D-wil. Reggie Wayne never owned Champ.

Could you imagine what Harrison would've done to us had we put Champ on Wayne? I don't even want to think about that.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Bailey does play great man-to-man. The big difference between playing man-to-man and playing off the receiver is he SHUTS down his half of the field when he plays off the receiver. Remember his INT vs. Leinart. Leinart wasn't even throwing to Champ's receiver.

True...and in this new D, which is supposed to open up the pass rush (which history suggests) it should provide more turnovers if quarterbacks try to force balls into their top 2 guys (who will presumably be covered by Bly and Bailey) You honestly think the coaches are going to marginalize champ's skills? wont happen

dragondawg
05-09-2007, 08:20 PM
You mean D-wil. Reggie Wayne never owned Champ.

yah i was just thinking when did champ ever cover wayne during that game, isn't baltimore's secondary suppose to be good also but couldn't shut down the colts even though they didn't allow any touchdowns in the playoff game

fatcard
05-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Its a pity that two teams we have to beat twice have sensational Tight Ends and no receivers. What good are cornerbacks against San diego and KC? We might as well rest them for those 4 games...

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 08:46 PM
You mean D-wil. Reggie Wayne never owned Champ.

Reggie Wayne owned Champ and DWill using a double move that seemed to throw both of them off. Reggie got Champ once for a score but after the Champ made him pay. DWill knew what he was doing but got burned by it at least three times. Foxworth on Reggie was just bad. Foxy is hanging all over the guy and had to wait for help to tackle the guy. ANYTIME Champ makes a mistake in my eyes it's kind of sticks in your memory because it's so rare.

I think Champ has actually improved since he's been with the Broncos. They stopped using him as a stop gap for EVERYTHING. I love having that guy.

Champ versus Raider Randy against Champ versus Patriot Randy is going to be a different battle. Champ is man up against a motivated probably healthy Randy Moss. THAT should be interesting if it occurs. Playoff itch?

DWill could shut down a receiver. Foxworth has yet to fully do that. They picked on DWill as the number two man. I wonder how Foxworth does on man coverage this year?

OrangeShadow
05-09-2007, 08:48 PM
I think champ will still play off the ball, if it aint broke dont fix it

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 08:52 PM
True, but was there any sort of pass rush? Champ can man up, but it's not reasonable to expect anyone to hang with a reciever for those extra 2-4 seconds without a pass rush.

Our pass rush is going to be brutal compared to last year.

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 08:54 PM
I think champ will still play off the ball, if it aint broke dont fix it

I hope he does both. I really think that he can bait some guys to go his way.

Odysseus
05-09-2007, 08:58 PM
Its a pity that two teams we have to beat twice have sensational Tight Ends and no receivers. What good are cornerbacks against San diego and KC? We might as well rest them for those 4 games...

Daniel "I'm taking your head clean off" Graham.

ward63
05-09-2007, 09:25 PM
With the Wayne talk, we could still have Roc Alexander covering him.

ward63
05-09-2007, 09:26 PM
But I'm sure we don't want that ever again.

listopencil
05-09-2007, 09:53 PM
Its a pity that two teams we have to beat twice have sensational Tight Ends and no receivers. What good are cornerbacks against San diego and KC? We might as well rest them for those 4 games...

Brandon did a pretty good job in the Big Nickel of covering TE's. I hope he comes back %100.

Paladin
05-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Having Champ and Bly is freat, but I think the S position will be chalenged by the TE and the RBs on a little deeper swing pass will be be equally challenging. It all dependsd on whether the Dline can get it going, and if the refs call the holding calls or not.....

GoHAM
05-09-2007, 10:45 PM
Our pass rush is going to be brutal compared to last year.

Brutal for us or for the opposing offense? Hopefully for the offense. :rofl:

CHANGSTER
05-09-2007, 11:03 PM
Having Champ and Bly is freat, but I think the S position will be chalenged by the TE and the RBs on a little deeper swing pass will be be equally challenging. It all dependsd on whether the Dline can get it going, and if the refs call the holding calls or not.....

Yup, if the DL can get to the QB before he can check down to the TE or the RB we'll be in good shape. We were horrible against the TE and RB's last season. 28th against RB's and 19th against TE's according to this site http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef.php

maven
05-09-2007, 11:34 PM
Bailey has been making his money playing OFF of the player. This is going to be something different for him. He MIGHT have more blown plays against him as well. A lot is going to depend on can the pass rush do more than look good on paper. No pass rush. No turnovers.

Best CB in the game today. Bates prefers to press his corners. He's never worked with a CB with the skills of Bailey. Off the top of my head, Surtain/Madison rings a bell. But, Bailey is elite. Bates will obviously work with Bailey's strengths, and if that means laying off, Bates will comply. Especially since Bailey will come up and make the tackles. You don't mess with great players. Bates isn't an idiot.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-09-2007, 11:42 PM
Ho ho! I hear you guys are turning the D-line loose this season too! TURNING THAT **** LOOSE! LOOK OUT!

listopencil
05-10-2007, 12:26 AM
The funny thing is that we aren't going to need much of a rush from our D-Line to destroy that pathetic KC O-Line twice this year. It'll be like having three bye weeks for our entire D. You can't buy that. That's golden.

Odysseus
05-10-2007, 01:06 AM
Brutal for us or for the opposing offense? Hopefully for the offense. :rofl:

Do you see that clown in red pants sitting over that barrell of water laughing and talking smack? Yeah. That clown is going swimming and a lot.

It's probably just as well all the friction from his fat face jawing so fast it might cause a grease fire.