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UKBronco
05-02-2007, 05:28 PM
Looks like the NFLPA is throwing these guys under the bus. Poor showing.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10160833

ATLANTA (May 1, 2007) -- The National Football League Players Association is countersuing six current and former players who are seeking to hold the union and league liable for millions of dollars they lost in an alleged fraud scheme.

The NFLPA, in papers filed last week in federal court in Atlanta, accuses Steve Atwater, Ray Crockett, Al Smith, Blaine Bishop, Carlos Emmons and Clyde Simmons of breach of contract.

The action by the union follows a lawsuit filed last June against the NFL and NFLPA by the players over $20 million they lost by investing their money with a hedge fund manager that they say the union endorsed even though the manager had liens against him.

The fund manager, Kirk Wright, was arrested in Miami Beach, Fla., last May on federal fraud charges and is awaiting trial. He also faces a civil complaint filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission against him and his company, International Management Associates.

According to authorities, Wright and his company collected as much as $185 million from at least 500 investors since 1997 and used false statements and documents to mislead some of them to believe the value of those investments was increasing. Much of that money is now missing.

The countersuit claims the players violated a provision in union regulations that says the union does not endorse any of its registered financial advisers and is not responsible for the skill, honesty or competence of any registered adviser. It also claims the players breached union rules by not exhausting internal remedies before suing the union.

The NFLPA wants the court to enter a judgment enforcing the disclaimer-of-liability provision and ordering the players to pay the union's costs and attorney's fees for defending itself.

It also wants the court to order Atwater and Bishop to contribute to any damages the union might be ordered to pay to the other four players, alleging Atwater and Bishop trumpeted to the other players the investment opportunities in Wright's hedge funds. Finally, the NFLPA is asking that Atwater and Bishop be forced to pay any commissions they received for working for Wright to the other four players.

The NFLPA, in its April 23 countersuit, also filed a claim against Wright, seeking to recoup any damages they may be ordered to pay the players in the future.

The NFL, which also is being sued by the players, hasn't filed a countersuit, but, like the union, is asking that the players be ordered to pay the league's costs and attorney's fees in defending itself.

An attorney for the players, James M. Evangelista, said that the counterclaims by the union are meritless and are part of a tactic designed to raise doubt about the players' allegations.

"At best they're meritless," he said of the counterclaims. "At worst, they're frivolous."

Evangelista declined to say if he has had settlement discussions with the league and the union regarding the players' lawsuit.

"At this point, we're really looking forward to getting into the discovery phase of the case and getting into the facts of the relationship between Kirk Wright and the players association," he said.

In March, a federal judge denied a motion by the NFL and NFLPA to dismiss the players' lawsuit. A trial date on the lawsuit by the players has not been set.

Billy Clyde Puckett
05-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Hold on - Its the Players Association counter suing not the NFL.

Bad form though by the Union that is supposed to be supporting them.

Garcia Bronco
05-02-2007, 05:34 PM
I really don't see how the NFLPA has a leg to stand on...but what do I know.

PLOWHORSE
05-02-2007, 05:34 PM
I agree with them suing the NFLPA, but CAVEAT EMPTOR will rule the day in court unfortunately!

UKBronco
05-02-2007, 05:40 PM
Edited to reflect the fact I seem incapable of reading! ;)

ColoradoBuff
05-02-2007, 05:55 PM
Relative of mine lost 10 millon from this Wright character!! He is a real estate developer in LA. He and Atwater both got in at the same time. He said they won't get a penny back. He is even more pissed that his "so called friend" would do this to him. He went to Wright's wedding, Vegas trips, and vacations with him. I hope they hang this fella. He will make more money, but he is more embarassed that he was a "so called friend" to this Mr. Wright.

Garcia Bronco
05-02-2007, 06:03 PM
Relative of mine lost 10 millon from this Wright character!! He is a real estate developer in LA. He and Atwater both got in at the same time. He said they won't get a penny back. He is even more pissed that his "so called friend" would do this to him. He went to Wright's wedding, Vegas trips, and vacations with him. I hope they hang this fella. He will make more money, but he is more embarassed that he was a "so called friend" to this Mr. Wright.

If he stole 10 million from me this guy would disappear....like David Copperfield

fdf
05-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Bad form though by the Union that is supposed to be supporting them.

LOL. Unions exist to enhance the power and pocketbooks of their leaders. Occasionally, they have to pretend to support the members to keep the votes coming in.

Rock Chalk
05-02-2007, 11:22 PM
LOL. Unions exist to enhance the power and pocketbooks of their leaders. Occasionally, they have to pretend to support the members to keep the votes coming in.

This is why Unions suck.

Unions once stood for something good. Now they just ****ing suck.

Killericon
05-02-2007, 11:36 PM
This is why Unions suck.

Unions once stood for something good. Now they just ****ing suck.

I am a member of a great union, I'll have you know.

Bronco Billy
05-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Unions will be necessary so long as employers don't see the need to protect their employees and pay them an honest wage.

Kaylore
05-03-2007, 01:26 AM
I'm not a union fan, but counter-suits aren't uncommon. This isn't necessarily a big deal.

Blart
05-03-2007, 02:58 AM
I don't understand what's going on, but I hope the broncos win regardless

watermock
05-03-2007, 08:27 AM
Gene Upshaw doesn't give a crap about former players.

The NFL's forgotten players
Before million-dollar contracts, the NFL's pioneers took the field. Today, many are scraping by financially, their benefits an embarrassment to a lucrative league.
By Ken Murray
Sun Reporter
Originally published July 2, 2006



During 14 years in the NFL, Dick "Night Train" Lane was celebrated for his vicious clothesline hits, his technical skill on the defensive perimeter and his fast-paced lifestyle off it. Few players were bigger in stature -- or better at their job -- than the Hall of Fame defensive back with the alluring moniker who intimidated receivers from 1952 to 1965.

"Train was kind of in the show-business atmosphere," said Lenny Moore, a longtime friend and on-field foe. "He married the great [jazz singer] Dinah Washington. That had him in the spotlight. He was as popular as she was."

The lifestyle turned out to be fleeting. Beset by financial problems and poor health, Lane spent his final years in an assisted living facility in Austin, Texas. Even though he had three sons -- in three cities -- and two ex-wives (Washington died in 1963), his caretaker was a retired construction engineer he met on the golf course.

In the end, Lane was neither exalted nor self-supporting. He lived paycheck to paycheck from his NFL pension, barely able to get around on bumknees. He died, virtually penniless, in 2002. It was a sad end to a proud life.

The harsh lesson of Lane's riches-to-rags saga is not lost on retired players today. The NFL's pioneers are awash in mental health issues, physical disabilities and financial distress.

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of retired players in need of assistance after missing the NFL's money boat, a ship that sailed in 1993 with the merger of free agency and the salary cap. It left behind a whole generation of players who helped build the NFL from the ground up and now feel abandoned.

In an industry that created nearly $6 billion worth of revenue last year, retired players are scoffing at plans for a 10-to-20 percent increase in their pension benefits this fall. The proposal comes under terms that have yet to be made final in the NFL's new collective bargaining agreement.

For many older players, that increase could amount to as little as $40 a month per credited season, or an additional $2,400 a year for a player who lasted five seasons.

That might be too little, too late for the fast-dwindling corps of pre-1959 players facing insolvency and worse. Unofficially, there were more than 700 living pre-59ers when the landmark 1993 collective bargaining agreement was reached. Today, there are fewer than 300.

"Guys are at an age where their health is quickly deteriorating," said former Baltimore Colts running back Joe Washington. "In realistic terms, if these guys die off, we wouldn't be having this conversation."


No money for funeral
Lane was due an increase on his $800-a-month NFL pension when he died of a heart attack in January 2002 at the age of 73. Were it not for the diligence of Charles Carroll and the charity of Mike Ditka, however, Lane might have had a pauper's funeral.

Carroll was the businessman who befriended Lane and controlled his limited bank account ("Train was no money manager," he said). Upon Lane's death, Carroll said he was directed by Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association, to give Lane a good funeral.

According to Carroll, there was enough money in Lane's account for half of the $12,000 funeral expense, and the other half came out of his own pocket while he waited for the NFLPA to send the rest. Ultimately, that check arrived through the intervention of Moore, a Hall of Famer with the Colts.

Still, there was a $1,600 headstone to pay for. Ditka covered the cost with money from his annual Hall of Fame golf classic in Chicago.

Ditka, a Hall of Fame tight end turned ESPN analyst, has been waging his own campaign to help needy players. He started a trust fund four years ago and estimates it helps 20 to 25 players each year. He also said he has written letters to NFL owners soliciting donations of $100,000 a team to "solve" the problem.

"The response was embarrassing," Ditka said. "One team sent $5,000, one sent $10,000. We're trying to let guys who made the game what it is today have some dignity.

"I'm very aggravated with the players association; I'm very aggravated with Gene Upshaw. I don't think they do enough. I don't think they do anything."

Upshaw, vacationing in Europe, has declined repeated interview requests. It is a fact of labor law, however, that he is allowed to represent only active players, not retired players, as the union leader.

It's not just the league's pioneers who need help these days. Mike Siani played from 1972 to 1977 with the Oakland Raiders and from 1978 to 1980 with the Colts as a wide receiver. He seems typical of the majority of retired players.

At 56, Siani has no medical, dental or life insurance because he can't afford the premiums. He gets just $492 a month in benefits because he took his pension early, at age 45. And he has to work two jobs, one as coach of a minor league indoor football team.

"People think, 'Wow, you played in the NFL, you must be a millionaire,' " Siani said. "They don't realize when I started playing in '72, I made $22,000 as a first-round draft choice."

He agrees with Ditka that Upshaw -- his former teammate on the Raiders -- and the NFLPA haven't done enough for retired players.

"As all the former players do, I think that maybe Gene is saying, 'Just go away, don't rock my boat, I've got a good gig going and I want it to last.' I'm very disappointed with what he hasn't done for us," Siani said.

Upshaw has been under fire since January, when he told The Charlotte Observer he doesn't represent retired players -- a point the union acknowledged as far back as 1974 -- and labeled those players attacking him as ungrateful. The comments galvanized pockets of retired players across the country and fostered an atmosphere of mistrust toward the union. Some retired players believe there is more money available for pension increases than Upshaw says.

Baltimore's chapter of 65 retired players has stood at the forefront in the fight. The chapter established a blog, a Google link and an e-mail system to inform all retired players. Irked by the management of retired player funds a year ago, former Colts safety Bruce Laird, 56, has drawn a line in the sand.

"We do not trust Gene Upshaw or the NFLPA," he said, "because quite frankly they don't work for us."

What Laird hopes to do is improve dialogue between current players and retired players, dialogue that is virtually nonexistent. It is clear, however, that Upshaw still has support within the retired player ranks.


Upshaw critics, fans
Hall of Fame tackle Ron Mix, now an attorney in San Diego, wants to see benefits increased across the board, especially for a group of 325 retired players who took an ill-advised Social Security adjustment (more money up front, a lot less on the back end). Nevertheless, Mix is quick to credit Upshaw with improving the retired players' lot.

"A lot of criticism directed at [Upshaw] is not merited," Mix said. "It was his administration that sensitized the current players to pension increases [for older players]. There is absolutely no legal obligation by the league or the players association to go back in time and increase pensions. [But] it's been done a couple times."

In 2002, the NFLPA doubled the benefits of players who played before 1968 from $100 to $200 a month per credited season -- at a cost of $110 million from current player benefits. According to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, the league pays out nearly $5 million a month in pension benefits.

Ravens kicker Matt Stover, a player representative for most of his 16 NFL seasons, visited a Baltimore chapter meeting of retired players last month to answer questions and explain the process. He promised the 10-to-20 percent increase once the new collective bargaining agreement is ratified in late summer or early fall.

"I want to make sure that the NFL retired players will always be considered in all negotiations. They have been since I've been here," Stover said. "My heart, as an active player, is to take care of them as much as we can.

"Can those guys be made whole? Oh, my goodness, we don't have billions of dollars for that. There's just no way."

How much money the union can allocate to retired players from funds in the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle NFL Player Retirement Plan is a point of debate. So far, Upshaw has declined to share specific actuarial information with them.

Ray Bille, who spent 37 years as a retirement plan consultant for three national firms, believes the NFLPA could do more to help.

Although he does not have access to NFLPA financial documents, Bille has spoken with a number of retired players, worked out his own calculations and come to the conclusion they could get as much as $100 more a month, not just the $40 that the union has proposed.

"I have no motivation to discredit Upshaw. I didn't play in the NFL and I have no relation to him one way or another," said Bille, now retired. "I feel he's not being totally aboveboard in the way he's communicating the opportunity to the retired players."

Bille also described the NFL's pension plan as "quite a bit weaker" than Major League Baseball's, in part because of a variable annuity element in baseball that the NFLPA bargained away in 1970 when executive director Ed Garvey was pursuing free agency.

Major League Baseball provides $175,000 a year for life for a fully vested pension based on 10 years' experience. A player with five years gets half that amount.

"Where football is today, I think [current players] do have something to do for the old-timers," Bille said. "The NFL is so much more successful than any other sport, including baseball. I feel strongly players averaging $1.5 million have somewhat of an obligation to the older guys, because it wouldn't be close to that if not for the base laid by these older players in the '60s and '70s."

ken.murray@baltsun.com
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Three who have struggled
Among the NFL retired players most in need are those who played during the pre-1959 era. The median public pension average for 70- to 79-year-olds, from that era, is $16,200 a year. Here are three examples of players who struggle to make ends meet on their NFL pensions.

SISTO AVERNO
Personal: 81 years old, living in Baltimore with his wife, Margaret, and daughter Dina.
Career: Played guard on offense and linebacker on defense in a five-year career (1950-1954) with the Baltimore Colts, New York Yankees and Dallas Texans.
Pension: $1,000 a month.
Issues: Has endured four-way heart bypass surgery, knee and hip replacements, a stroke and separate surgeries to clear out both carotid arteries in his neck.
Quote: "My father is not one to complain about anything," said Dina Averno. "He's from the old school. He played with dislocated shoulders. If he could walk, he'd still be working now."

JOHN HENRY JOHNSON
Personal: 76, living in Fremont, Calif., with his daughter, Kathy Moppin.
Career: Played one year in the CFL, 12 in the NFL and finished with the Houston Oilers in the AFL in 1966. Rushed for 1,000 yards twice with the Pittsburgh Steelers and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1987.
Pension: Approximately $1,600 a month.
Issues: Has early-onset dementia and serious short-term memory problems. Also has a pacemaker and spends about $800 a month on a dozen different medications.
Quote: "My dad's a great warrior," said Moppin, a nurse. "He needs to be taken care of, and I feel bad he's not taken better care of. I'm not making a lot of money. I know at some point, I will have to make a decision for a higher level of care."

JOE PERRY
Personal: 79, living in Chandler, Ariz., with his wife, Donna.
Career: Played 14 years with the San Francisco 49ers and two with the Baltimore Colts. A 200-pound fullback, Perry rushed for nearly 10,000 yards and scored 513 points. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969.
Pension: $1,489 per month from pre-1959 years and $167 for his last four years as a vested player.
Issues: Has pugilistic dementia and suffers from short-term memory loss.
Quote: "People expect Joe, because he's in the Hall of Fame, to come and appear at [different functions] because he's got money," Donna said. "There's no money. We're on a fixed income, so we have to budget everything."

[Ken Murray]
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Assistance
Retired NFL players who have medical or financial crises may qualify to get assistance from one of the following groups:


Players Assistance Trust Fund --Maximum grant is $20,000 for medical or financial crisis. Under the umbrella of the Professional Athletes Fund, it is distributed by the NFLPA.


Hall of Fame assistance fund --Established four years ago for Hall of Fame players in need.


Mike Ditka's trust fund --Dikta and some other Hall of Famers hold a charity golf tournament each August that raises $200,000. Half goes to a charity for children, and the other half to retired Hall of Fame players.


Dr. Arthur Roberts' screenings --An NFL quarterback-turned-heart surgeon, Roberts offers free cardiac screenings to all players in different NFL cities.


Benefits today
Players retiring after this season will have these benefits:


Severance -- Players get $12,500 per year, up to $15,000. A vested 10-year veteran would get $125,000. The benefit tops out at $200,000.


Medical insurance -- Good for four years from end of career. Player is eligible after three years and three games.


Annuity -- Available at age 35 or five years after career ends, whichever comes later. Starting in 2001, players with three years and three games experience receive $65,000 per year in tax-deferred compensation.


401(k) -- Available at age 55 without penalty. Can receive at 45, but must pay 20 percent tax hit.


Retiring Medical Savings Account -- New, enters the plan with this collective bargaining agreement. Player gets $25,000 per year once he is vested, topping out at $300,000. Similar to a bank account and to be used for health-related issues.


Life insurance -- Under the previous collective bargaining agreement, the policy went as follows: 1 year - $150,000; 2 years - $180,000; 3 years - $210,000; 4 years - $240,000; 5 years - $270,000; 6 or more - $300,000.


Pension plan -- Previous plan ranges from $200 a month per accredited season to $425 a month per accredited season.

[Ken Murray]

watermock
05-03-2007, 08:35 AM
First thing they need to do is yank that Mercedes or BMW out from under his ass. These cretins hide assets better than a squirrel.

Rock Chalk
05-03-2007, 08:36 AM
Unions will be necessary so long as employers don't see the need to protect their employees and pay them an honest wage.

In today's uber competetive workplace, employees cant afford to not pay an honest wage.

But go on and stay with your 1932 model.

kappys
05-03-2007, 03:20 PM
In today's uber competetive workplace, employees cant afford to not pay an honest wage.

But go on and stay with your 1932 model.

I agree with you in general except in the case of permitted monopolies where it may be necessary.