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SoCalBronco
05-01-2007, 01:40 AM
Broncos upfront about picks
Bates hopes draft choices solidify the defensive line

By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News
April 29, 2007
Jim Bates has been provided the gifted athletic prospects he coveted along the front four.
Now, the Broncos assistant head coach/defense is among those charged with melding the three defensive line newcomers, taken during the weekend among four draft picks, with the veteran holdovers to form a functional group that can pressure quarterbacks and stuff ball carriers with equal consistency.

"We're very comfortable," Bates said after Denver's selections of ends Jarvis Moss and Tim Crowder and tackle Marcus Thomas. "We've got the numbers we want in spots going into camp, and now it's going to be a wide-open competition to see how they fit into the scheme, how they take on blocks. There's a lot of things that fill our evaluation, and it'll be a long process. We have a lot of work to do in teaching the fundamentals we'll be using and we'll just see how it turns out."

The emphasis on buttressing the trenches was similar to the way Denver approached a thin defensive backfield in the draft two years ago, when it added three cornerbacks in one day.

It took the club two days to pluck Moss, Crowder and Thomas, and it necessitated two trades that cost Denver two third-rounders (including one next season), two sixth-rounders and a seventh-rounder to get them all.

"Hopefully, we'll have some starters maybe out of this group," Bates said. "They'll be competing with everybody else who we have in the organization, but we're very positive now that it's been a good two days."

The 17th pick Denver used to select Moss in the first round was the highest pick on a defensive lineman under coach Mike Shanahan. Trevor Pryce was the only other No. 1 pick, and he reached four straight Pro Bowls beginning in 2000 season.

But Denver's other first-day picks up front the past dozen seasons have been spotty. Reggie Hayward, a 2001 third-rounder, and Montae Reagor, a 1999 second-rounder, left as free agents. Mark Campbell (1996), Paul Toviessi (2001) and Dorsett Davis (2002) never panned out. The fates of the seven other second- day picks since 1995 yielded mainly lackluster results, with Elvis Dumervil, the team leader in sacks last season, a potential exception.

The failures to "hit" at the position often have sent Denver to try stopgap measures in free agency and via trade, also with mixed results and few, if any, star turns.

Asked whether the bill came due for that spotty track record, Shanahan disagreed.

"No, it was just our priority," he said, defending the team's recent front four picks, particularly on the draft's first day, but also admitting that linemen on both sides of the ball "are usually the hardest to find."

Denver now has youth added to the mix. The contracts of Ebenezer Ekuban and John Engelberger expire next season, and Kenard Lang reaches his 33rd birthday, so there's protection there.

"It's really incredible," Moss said of Denver's picks up front. "I feel that real soon it will start opening up people's eyes as to how good a group we have."

Bates maintained Moss needs to gain weight and strength but has "special abilities" as a pass rusher, while Crowder might be slightly better between the two as a run stopper. Thomas is strong to hold at the point of attack and has excellent quickness, he added.

"I think it's going to be dynamic," Crowder said. "You've got three guys who are all hungry, and you don't have one that's a slacker. I'm just excited to get on the field. And I'm glad they brought two more linemen in because we're going to push the (heck) out of each other to make each other better."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5512690,00.html

Paladin
05-01-2007, 02:00 AM
When is TC scheduled? I'm freaking ready.....

watermock
05-01-2007, 02:10 AM
First thing I do is ask Goodell to get on the phone, and read the riot act to these kids in a premptive strike.

Or at least Shanahan to read the riot act.

theAPAOps5
05-01-2007, 02:11 AM
I can't wait to sit in my office and watch all the noobies catch the bust from the hotel on my airport over to Dove Valley. Last year it was Jay Cutler and Marshall the year before that DWill (RIP) Foxy, and Paymah. Call me weird but seeing them every day makes it more fun to watch.

DeuceOfClub
05-01-2007, 02:35 AM
From Broncomania MSB


We'll do as good a job as we can this year on the camps. FYI, though, the Broncos will only have six of the 14 OTAs open to the media (and, by extension, to us), and it appears those six sessions will not begin until just after Memorial Day.

The three-day minicamp is also scheduled for July once again -- so that will give us nine days from which we can bring you video and photos of what's going on down here.

Just wanted to let y'all know so you're not wondering, "Where's the video?" when the OTAs start in mid-May. We'll still have interviews and features -- just nothing from the field until a couple of weeks later.

U GOT JACKED UP
05-01-2007, 09:39 AM
Why try to beat around the bush about your draft picks. They obviously were their guys so take questions and answer them truthfully. Let them pay before you criticize.

Billy Clyde Puckett
05-01-2007, 10:29 AM
What's the over under on how many times the Broncs sack the KC QBs this year?

Merlin
05-01-2007, 12:09 PM
What's the over under on how many times the Broncs sack the KC QBs this year?
What's the over-under before they hurt Croyle? Actually, I take that back, he will not last that late into the season if he is the starting QB. However, if Huard is the starting QB, he is probably going to wish he had remained a career backup. !Booya!

epicSocialism4tw
05-01-2007, 01:43 PM
We have finally invested in some blue-chip talent on the line. Every player that we drafted is extremely talented, has had success in college, and comes from a top level program. Both Moss and Thomas are legit playmakers. Those types of players are invaluable. We only have had two on our defense over the past two seasons...Champ and Darrent. We have never really had a consistent playmaker on the line under Shanahan.

There is finally a reason to be excited about the future of the Broncos.

If these guys pan out and become regular contributors, we'll be the best defense in the NFL. The talent is certainly there. Hopefully the young guys will get in there and really heat up the competition.

kmartin575
05-01-2007, 02:29 PM
How have Reggie Hayward and Montae Reagor been "spotty" picks? Because Shanahan was too cheap to keep them. Not sure how they were spotty when both players have gone on to be very productive with other teams.

Steve Sewell
05-01-2007, 02:58 PM
What's the over under on how many times the Broncs sack the KC QBs this year?


Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I'd like to see these new players play a little before wondering if we'll get ANY sacks against ANY team this year. That's how bad the pass rush has been.

kmartin575
05-01-2007, 03:03 PM
What's the over-under before they hurt Croyle? Actually, I take that back, he will not last that late into the season if he is the starting QB. However, if Huard is the starting QB, he is probably going to wish he had remained a career backup. !Booya!

What's the over-under on how many times Jared Allen, Tamba Hali, Demarcus Tyler, and Turk McBride sack fatass Cutler this year?

Steve Sewell
05-01-2007, 03:04 PM
How have Reggie Hayward and Montae Reagor been "spotty" picks? Because Shanahan was too cheap to keep them. Not sure how they were spotty when both players have gone on to be very productive with other teams.

You're thinking of Bert Berry. Montae Reagor is, at best, a journeyman. And from what I've seen so far, Hayward hasn't lived up to the amount of his contract in Jacksonville.

Steve Sewell
05-01-2007, 03:05 PM
What's the over-under on how many times Jared Allen, Tamba Hali, Demarcus Tyler, and Turk McBride sack fatass Cutler this year?

Fatass? Never heard that about Cutler before.

kmartin575
05-01-2007, 03:08 PM
Fatass? Never heard that about Cutler before.

Oh comeon. You can tell from his face. If Cutler stopped working out he would get fat.

Billy Clyde Puckett
05-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh comeon. You can tell from his face. If Cutler stopped working out he would get fat.

That's Bob's ass you are dreaming about, as usual.

Inkana7
05-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Oh comeon. You can tell from his face. If Cutler stopped working out he would get fat.

......so would evenone else above the age of 18...

Comeon, now, you can't be this strapped for smack...

epicSocialism4tw
05-01-2007, 04:13 PM
Oh comeon. You can tell from his face. If Cutler stopped working out he would get fat.

That's the type of great analysis that I look for when I come to orangemane.com.

nickademus
05-01-2007, 04:23 PM
Llama how can I take you seriously when you have a picture of Harry Hudini titled "Chasing Jordan" as your avatar? I mean I cant even read your posts because I am to distracted by this slap in the face of his greatness. I will take you seriously when you take Danny Sheys with bleached hair off as your avatar.
Thank you

Master___Pain
05-01-2007, 05:47 PM
Llama how can I take you seriously when you have a picture of Harry Hudini titled "Chasing Jordan" as your avatar? I mean I cant even read your posts because I am to distracted by this slap in the face of his greatness. I will take you seriously when you take Danny Sheys with bleached hair off as your avatar.
Thank you

Danny Schayes is offended.
http://www.syracusehalloffame.com/images/2001/danny_schayes1.jpg

I wonder when the mad yak is going to own up to his borish behavior regarding Dirk. Llama claims to have superior basketball knowledge over all the posters here, but yet his claims to the greatness of the Mavs and Dirk are way off the mark.

Back to the subject at hand, Denver got three players that should contribute to the weak link of this ball club and make the Broncos a much better team in 2007. The Broncos had a great off season, now it's time to blend all these new faces together and win the west and go from there.