ROTOWORLD: Broncos have "officially" moved to 10

[rovolution]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx


I'm not trying to get people to get mad at me, i am merely reporting what i have read.

[Atwater His Ass]

Sometimes I think it'd be better to just go camping on draft weekend and just come back on Monday and see what happened.

[The MVPlaya]

I feel like going to sleep and waking up at 8:30 AM tomorrow morning.

[RkyMtnThunder]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx


I'm not trying to get people to get mad at me, i am merely reporting what i have read.

I am mad as hell at you! How dare you!

Jeez the nerve of some people - posting news about the Broncos on a Broncos board - whats wrong with you?

(j/k)


Seriously though - it seems like that source is getting the same info we all got...which is to say, not confirmed

[rovolution]

this is getting crazy. I dont know what to believe anymore. Mabye its true, maybe it isnt.

[watermock]

He sounded pretty damn sure of himself. I have been waiting to make Pubes our B!tch for a year! I think he's terrified of Shanahan. Still, he needs more bodies, and we need a couple true impact players.

11 turned out pretty damned good last year.

[DenverDuo]

Seriously. What the **** is going on?

[watermock]

As a Shanahan deciple, I really question that Kubiac would spill the beans before it was truly official. You know Shanny won't. 10 is a good spot to cherry pick from IMO. Maybe we are still coveting Calvin, but at what cost?

I understand Shanny is probably frothing at the mouth for a Jay/Calvin connection for a decade, but we need two or three true starters out of this draft. I'm realistic to know we won't roll triple 7's with two dice that stop at 6 this year. I just hope we don't roll snake eyes and sell both #1's.

[theAPAOps5]

This rumor has really grown some legs. At least roto world just posts snippets of articles unlike PFT which tries to post what they think are scoops.

[OrangeShadow]

you know i think im glad im working tomorrow

[Sassy]

In the end does it really matter? The Broncos will draft who they draft and we have no say...I hate all the speculation.

[PLOWHORSE]

you know i think im glad im working tomorrow

Yep..me too, I wont check the draft happenings until late afternoon.... after the dust settles.

[OrangeShadow]

best part about moving up, less time to wait to see who they pick ROFL!

but ill be checking on my cell on lunch lol

[broncos love]

In the end does it really matter? The Broncos will draft who they draft and we have no say...I hate all the speculation.

good point. I'm getting tired of wondering who we are gone to pick and where. Just let the maddness begin about 12:00 est

[-Slap-]

Come on, Mike. I've been a Bronco fan for over 30 years. Draft the player I really want just this once.

[-Slap-]

This rumor has really grown some legs. At least roto world just posts snippets of articles unlike PFT which tries to post what they think are scoops.

That was based on an exchange on Houston sports radio:

TomKowalski: Just heard ... denver just moved up to no. 10 ... if that's true, the broncos are coming after the no. 2 pick ... i just don't think they've got enough to get it done ...

fulke1mc: Tom.... where did you hear the information about the denver trade? is it for certain, or is it just another rumor?

TomKowalski: I heard it ... from a very good source ... but i haven't seen it confirmed anywhere ...

[Rohirrim]

In the end does it really matter? The Broncos will draft who they draft and we have no say...I hate all the speculation.

What? The speculation is the fun part. Kind of like fore play. Ha!

If the Broncos are going to trade up to ten, I'm guessing they'll wait until Texas is on the board and they see somebody they want.

[RkyMtnThunder]

What? The speculation is the fun part. Kind of like fore play. Ha!

If the Broncos are going to trade up to ten, I'm guessing they'll wait until Texas is on the board and they see somebody they want.

....not unless they are still after #2


(doubtful - but...)

[Popps]

#2? Oh man....

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/22/221076.jpg

Probably won't happen, but it's what has NEEDED to happen for about a decade, now.

Go get us an ass-kicker for the line, Mike! Get it done.

[atomicbloke]

I refuse to be excited this time. I shall get my hopes up of trading to 2 for CJ or JoeThomas or 10 for LAndry... and in the end, we stay at 21 and reach for a no name TE.

Last year for a pleasant surprise because I was sure they would stay at 15 and pick Chad Jackson.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Only two reasons to hide a prior trade, either they don't want to give SF or somebody else an advance warning and time to maneuver above them for a player they want, or else they're not done moving up.

Come on Mike...just do it...get CJ.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Makes me think Anderson is more and more the pick if he's there at #10. Last year there was talk of taking a QB about two weeks out if one happened to be there, after that nothing was mentioned about taking a QB and it came as a "surprise" to everyone when a move was made for one. This year there was talk of Anderson awhile ago, McShay said in a chat sometime at the end of March that Denver loved him and he was their target if the trade to #6 went down, and it was mentioned a couple weeks ago in the Post IIRC he was someone they liked. Now all of a sudden every defensive player who has a slight chance of being around at #10 is being mentioned, except for Anderson. This leaking of Willis' name and a deal with the Texans is to scare San Fran, Buffalo and anyone else who might want Willis to move ahead of Houston's pick to take Wilis, and at the same time take a team who might want Anderson below the Texans.

[Pseudofool]

Tom Kowalski (http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/04/kowalski_broncos_trade_up_to_1.html)Kowalski: Broncos trade up to 10, coming after No. 2
Posted by Bill Emkow April 27, 2007 19:47PM
Categories: Draft
Killer hit the forum with breaking news that hasn't been reported on ESPN, NFL Network, or anywhere else...


TomKowalski: Just heard ... denver just moved up to no. 10 ... if that's true, the broncos are coming after the no. 2 pick ... i just don't think they've got enough to get it done ...

fulke1mc: Tom.... where did you hear the information about the denver trade? is it for certain, or is it just another rumor?

TomKowalski: I heard it ... from a very good source ... but i haven't seen it confirmed anywhere ... Here's more grease on the fire.

[Drek]

I could see finalizing the trade to 10 early. At ten they can make a legit play for #2, but if it doesn't work out they can still get Anderson or Willis.

[16-JakE-16]

#2? Oh man....

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/22/221076.jpg

Probably won't happen, but it's what has NEEDED to happen for about a decade, now.

Go get us an ass-kicker for the line, Mike! Get it done.
no way man. i've been advocating dline for the past 3 offseasons but if calvin johnson is on the board, **** it!!!

[eddie mac]

I'm sure if this is true Mike will be pretty ****ed off right now if one of the other teams targetting his player make another move in front of 10 because of this breaking.

BTW I reckon the target is either Anderson or Willis. I just dont think Mike would take a chance on a young DT like Okoye or the sliding Branch in the top 10.

[Kaylore]

In the end does it really matter? The Broncos will draft who they draft and we have no say...I hate all the speculation.

Well you're no fun! The speculation is the best part!

[Watchthemiddle]

Somebody wake me up on Monday morning and tell me who we got.

[MechanicalBull]

He is saying it's official but it's not and doesn't say what Denver gave up. I'm not believing anything until I see it with my own eyes tomorrow.

Patrick Willis-LB-Player Apr. 27 - 7:54 pm et


MLive.com's Tom Kowalski reports the Broncos have traded up to No. 10.

The Texans currently own the tenth pick in the draft. It's believed the Broncos are high on Ole Miss MLB Patrick Willis, but Kowalski says the team is trying to make a play for the No. 2 pick and Calvin Johnson. This deal may not be announced as official until draft day.
Source: MLive.com

[phisig150]

Yep..me too, I wont check the draft happenings until late afternoon.... after the dust settles.

I can't help myself I'm a speculation junkie espcially when it comes to the draft. Is there a hot line or support group. I think I need help. At ten how about Puzlosny? I think a Willis is smoke screen. I would be happy with either. Also wouldn't mind Okoye, Anderson, Landry, Branch or Nelson one has to be there.

[phisig150]

Yep..me too, I wont check the draft happenings until late afternoon.... after the dust settles.

I can't help myself I'm a speculation junkie espcially when it comes to the draft. Is there a hot line or support group. I think I need help. At ten how about Puzlosny? I think a Willis is smoke screen. I would be happy with either. Also wouldn't mind Okoye, Anderson, Landry, Branch or Nelson one has to be there.

[AboveAverage]

Never heard of Tom Kowalski....is that a bad sign this is bunk?

[-Slap-]

Never heard of Tom Kowalski....is that a bad sign this is bunk?

Local radio hack in a different market. Probably no reason you should have heard of him before.

[bap454]

Lets now assume that we do have the tenth pick. More than likely we will target a defensive prospect. However if Peterson is there at #10 (sliding slightly due to the new colarbone issue) how in the world do you pass on him. The thought of Peterson in the Orange and Blue makes me wet!!! I know, I know ... we have Henry but this is AD!!

Also it is quite possible Anderson, Laundry, Okoye, and Adams will be gone by then. Any takers?!:wiggle:

[atomicbloke]

Lets now assume that we do have the tenth pick. More than likely we will target a defensive prospect. However if Peterson is there at #10 (sliding slightly due to the new colarbone issue) how in the world do you pass on him. The thought of Peterson in the Orange and Blue makes me wet!!! I know, I know ... we have Henry but this is AD!!

Also it is quite possible Anderson, Laundry, Okoye, and Adams will be gone by then. Any takers?!:wiggle:

In that case, we will rape another team that wants Peterson.

[Kaylore]

By the way, where does it say we've officially moved up? hmmm...

[atomicbloke]

By the way, where does it say we've officially moved up? hmmm...

If a rumor is repeated often enough by several sources, then it becomes official.

[BroncoSoja]

If its true I believe we are trying to put ourselfs in position to either make a run at the C. Johnson lottery or we are targetting Amobi Okoye.. I don't think we have any intention of going after that LB from Ole Miss.. Just like last year how everyone had us drooling over V. Davis and trying to move up for him while Shanny (and a few of us Plummer haters) were secretly hoping we could get Culter.

Okoye just has way to much upside, the guy is a stud on the field, young, and extremly intelligent. I really think he could end up being the steal of the draft.

[atomicbloke]

I think all this is a smokesceer... we were secretly targeting Joe Thomas all along....

Shanny loves Jay and will break the bank to protect him for the next decade and a half...

Afterall, our SB offenses were so phenomenal due to our O-line.... Nails, Zimmo, Schelereth and Habib....

[Kaylore]

If a rumor is repeated often enough by several sources, then it becomes official.

I know, but wasn't there supposed to be something on rotoworld that showed we had moved up? I clicked that link and found nothing of the sort.

[Los Broncos]

I feel like going to sleep and waking up at 8:30 AM tomorrow morning.

Yeah same here, im going boozing tonight to kill some time.

[plummershelper]

I can't help myself I'm a speculation junkie espcially when it comes to the draft. Is there a hot line or support group. I think I need help. At ten how about Puzlosny? I think a Willis is smoke screen. I would be happy with either. Also wouldn't mind Okoye, Anderson, Landry, Branch or Nelson one has to be there.

No way does Poz go top 10. Probably not even top 20.

[Rohirrim]

I think all this is a smokesceer... we were secretly targeting Joe Thomas all along....

Shanny loves Jay and will break the bank to protect him for the next decade and a half...

Afterall, our SB offenses were so phenomenal due to our O-line.... Nails, Zimmo, Schelereth and Habib....

Then they should stay at 21 and take Staley. There's not that big of a diffence between them.

[MechanicalBull]

I know, but wasn't there supposed to be something on rotoworld that showed we had moved up? I clicked that link and found nothing of the sort.

I think they are talking about under player news on the left for Patrick Willis it states this: MLive.com's Tom Kowalski reports the Broncos have traded up to No. 10.

The Texans currently own the tenth pick in the draft. It's believed the Broncos are high on Ole Miss MLB Patrick Willis, but Kowalski says the team is trying to make a play for the No. 2 pick and Calvin Johnson. This deal may not be announced as official until draft day.
Source: MLive.com

That is the only thing I can find but even that doesn't sound to concrete so I'm not sure what to make of it.

[rovolution]

I know, but wasn't there supposed to be something on rotoworld that showed we had moved up? I clicked that link and found nothing of the sort.


Look at the section under Willis' name.
Or here, ill just post the direct link: http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/04/kowalski_broncos_trade_up_to_1.html

The guy even disputed the original article about this trade.

Again, i dont know if its true or not, interpret it however you wish, but i wanted to share it with the rest of the Bronco Nation.

[BroncoSoja]

Aight this is what I think we are trying to do if it indeed is true that we moved up to #10.


1st. As reported everywhere we will try to get C.J, but that will be extremly hard and costly.

Fallback plan is we will try to get G.Adams and use our #10 as bait to move up if need be. If we do get him we will then trade one of our #3's for Kriss Jenkins (DT) from Carliona.

3rd option is that if G. Adams is gone will will probably take Okoye and keep our other 3rd in our pocket.


I sure hope we get G. Adams and Kriss Jenkins some how.. That will be a hell of a front line. God I hope im right!

[Kaylore]

Look at the section under Willis' name.
Or here, ill just post the direct link: http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/04/kowalski_broncos_trade_up_to_1.html

The guy even disputed the original article about this trade.

Again, i dont know if its true or not, interpret it however you wish, but i wanted to share it with the rest of the Bronco Nation.

Thanks. I was up at 6:00 AM today and am having difficulty reading and typing. I think I'll go the gym and then crash for the night. Everything will be different in the morning anyway. :~ohyah!:

[U GOT JACKED UP]

Schefter says that we haven't discussed any trade with the texans and it would never go down before the draft.

[Kaylore]

Schefter says that we haven't discussed any trade with the texans and it would never go down before the draft.

Shanahan would wait and see if the guy he wanted was available at whatever pick he was targeting. If you move early another team can jump in front of you. If you trade right when he's in range then you eliminate any chance of someone jumping you. If who he wants doesn't fall, he'll just stay put. That is also a possibility, though admittedly a more disappointing one given the hype we've been hearing.

[-Slap-]

Schefter is full of crap and you guys have short memories. We moved up to 17 in 2004, days before the draft, and we moved to 15 days before the draft last year.

[Dedhed]

Somebody wake me up on Monday morning and tell me who we got.

Turn off your computer.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Schefter is full of crap and you guys have short memories. We moved up to 17 in 2004, days before the draft, and we moved to 15 days before the draft last year.

and neither of those two moves were for specific players, but because they got good value, especially the trade with Atlanta last year. Much different than today when everyone claimed Denver did it for a specific player.

[Rohirrim]

Schefter is full of crap and you guys have short memories. We moved up to 17 in 2004, days before the draft, and we moved to 15 days before the draft last year.

But that was just a stage to jump to 11.

[atomicbloke]

Shanahan would wait and see if the guy he wanted was available at whatever pick he was targeting. If you move early another team can jump in front of you. If you trade right when he's in range then you eliminate any chance of someone jumping you. If who he wants doesn't fall, he'll just stay put. That is also a possibility, though admittedly a more disappointing one given the hype we've been hearing.

That wont work if the plan is to move to #2 or #6 finally.

It's easier to jump to those spots from #10 than from #21.

[Kaylore]

That wont work if the plan is to move to #2 or #6 finally.

It's easier to jump to those spots from #10 than from #21.

I'm convinced that we aren't getting Johnson. I also don't think we're getting Willis. Shanahan seemed pretty sure in his press conference that he wants to try DJ in the middle (sorry -Slap-)

[atomicbloke]

I'm convinced that we aren't getting Johnson. I also don't think we're getting Willis. Shanahan seemed pretty sure in his press conference that he wants to try DJ in the middle (sorry -Slap-)

I feel the target all along was Joe Thomas.

[Bob]

If the Broncos are moving to 10, with the idea of trading to get CJ, at 2 then I would think they have already spoke with the lions about what they would consider. The Lions have stated that they wouldnt take anything less then a 10, well guess what -- that criteria has now been met.

Hasent it been verified that the Broncos have tried to trade up to 2 about a month ago? Now, the Broncos will not make this official for the obvous reason, that the Raiders could trade with the Bucs to picks up some picks, get Brady, and screw the Broncos, not a bad day for them

[Atlas]

I think all this is a smokesceer... we were secretly targeting Joe Thomas all along....

Shanny loves Jay and will break the bank to protect him for the next decade and a half...

Afterall, our SB offenses were so phenomenal due to our O-line.... Nails, Zimmo, Schelereth and Habib....


I like Thomas but if T is the call I think Denver should just keep their picks and select Stayley at 21.

[-Slap-]

and neither of those two moves were for specific players, but because they got good value, especially the trade with Atlanta last year. Much different than today when everyone claimed Denver did it for a specific player.

Only a very gullible person believes the Broncos are just totally in love with Patrick Willis and nobody else at 10. Its an easy conclusion for people outside Denver to make because the loss of Al Wilson leaves a grand canyon sized hole in the center of the defense.

Its quite likely the Broncos are looking at 10 and realizing they're going to see at least one of several targets available. Think about it. CJ and both QBs are going to be gone and so will Peterson and Thomas. That means Willis, Landry, Anderson, Adams or Okoye are going to be there waiting for us. Maybe two or three of them will still be there.

By the way, you have a very short memory. When we moved up to 17 in 2004, nine out of ten articles were speculating we were going to grab Steven Jackson AKA a specific player.

[Willynowei]

Anderson and Jenkins on the line next year?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Only a very gullible person believes the Broncos are just totally in love with Patrick Willis and nobody else at 10. Its an easy conclusion for people outside Denver to make because the loss of Al Wilson leaves a grand canyon sized hole in the center of the defense.

Its quite likely the Broncos are looking at 10 and realizing they're going to see at least one of several targets available. Think about it. CJ and both QBs are going to be gone and so will Peterson and Thomas. That means Willis, Landry, Anderson, Adams or Okoye are going to be there waiting for us. Maybe two or three of them will still be there.

By the way, you have a very short memory. When we moved up the 17 in 2004, nine out of ten articles were speculating we were going to grab Steven Jackson AKA a specific player.

Only gullible people believe the move would be for a specific player, but you were totally convinced this morning they were making a move for Willis.

It's asinine to trade up to a spot just because of who you think **might** be there. Why waste the assets to move to #10 ahead of time if you like a group of people, only to watch 3-4 still be on the board when you pick? If you're really not that in love with a single player, there is no reason to move up until there's only one or two of your group left. Looks like Hall and Revis are moving back up and could crack the Top 10, someone might take Brown too. There's another 3 guys that go along with your group, that might be there around 10. No reason to move up unless it's for a single player, and that's done while someone else is on the clock. Not well in advance, or even a day in advance if you're not picking #1 or #2.

I also really don't give a rat's ass what people thought in '04, since I was here saying everyone was reading too much into the move if they thought it was for a specific player. It's not my problem if they fall into your gullible category.

[27atwater]

If we move to 10...it will be for Carriker.

I could be wrong...but I don't think I am.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

If we move to 10...it will be for Carriker.

I could be wrong...but I don't think I am.

Sweet, giving up other picks for the guy with the lowest ceiling out of anyone expected to go in the top half of the 1st.

[TheChamp24]

Okay, this is off topic, but are all avatars and sigs disabled in hopes that it will enable this site from not crashing tomorrow?

[broncos love]

Only a very gullible person believes the Broncos are just totally in love with Patrick Willis and nobody else at 10. Its an easy conclusion for people outside Denver to make because the loss of Al Wilson leaves a grand canyon sized hole in the center of the defense.

Its quite likely the Broncos are looking at 10 and realizing they're going to see at least one of several targets available. Think about it. CJ and both QBs are going to be gone and so will Peterson and Thomas. That means Willis, Landry, Anderson, Adams or Okoye are going to be there waiting for us. Maybe two or three of them will still be there.

By the way, you have a very short memory. When we moved up to 17 in 2004, nine out of ten articles were speculating we were going to grab Steven Jackson AKA a specific player.


I hope the Broncos are not going to get Stephen Jackson, only for trade with the Nuggets for Iverson. Iverson would be the man, new meaning to the word slash. Anyway lets go get Jammal Anderson or Anthony Spencer in the First round.

[-Slap-]

Only gullible people believe the move would be for a specific player, but you were totally convinced this morning they were making a move for Willis.

The only thing I'm totally convinced about is how you hate to be challenged about anything. Don't tell me what I'm thinking. Concentrate on getting your own story straight.

It's asinine to trade up to a spot just because of who you think **might** be there. Why waste the assets to move to #10 ahead of time if you like a group of people, only to watch 3-4 still be on the board when you pick? If you're really not that in love with a single player, there is no reason to move up until there's only one or two of your group left. Looks like Hall and Revis are moving back up and could crack the Top 10, someone might take Brown too. There's another 3 guys that go along with your group, that might be there around 10. No reason to move up unless it's for a single player, and that's done while someone else is on the clock. Not well in advance, or even a day in advance if you're not picking #1 or #2.

I already spelled out to you that one these five players will be there @ 10: Willis, Landry, Anderson, Adams and Okoye. None of them will be there @ 21. If, and its a big IF, the Broncos really like one of those five studs at glaring need positions, then having the 10th pick is a good place to be.

I also really don't give a rat's ass what people thought in '04, since I was here saying everyone was reading too much into the move if they thought it was for a specific player. It's not my problem if they fall into your gullible category.

Its your problem that you said nobody thought the Broncos were targeting a specific player in 2004, but the overwhelming consensus thought we were going after Steven Jackson. Next time don't make such a definitive statement Originally Posted by Herc: Much different than today when everyone claimed Denver did it for a specific player. and it won't be so easy to point out how wrong you were.

Enjoy the Draft, Herc!

[-Slap-]

I hope the Broncos are not going to get Stephen Jackson, only for trade with the Nuggets for Iverson. Iverson would be the man, new meaning to the word slash. Anyway lets go get Jammal Anderson or Anthony Spencer in the First round.

Seeing as how you're from Arkansas, there's really no way of knowing if this is sarcasm.

[broncos love]

My bad Slap . Thinking of wrong Jackson, since I'm am watching the Mavs and Warriors.

[broncos love]

Lol

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Don't tell me what I'm thinking. Concentrate on getting your own story straight.


I take it as the strongest indication yet we're going after Patrick Willis.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=55769

You want Willis so bad, doesn't matter what the Broncos do, it's just another indicator they want Willis. But, yeah, I'm trying to tell you what you're thinking.

[listopencil]

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 302 | 40-Time: 4.97

Strengths:
Extremely strong...A solid athlete with good measurables...Stout against the run and is able to take on multiple blockers...Gets a good push and will collapse the pocket...Is able to shed blocks and clog up the middle...Shows great instincts for the game and is still developing...Smart player who is mature beyond his years and wants to improve...Quick and will penetrate and rush the passer...Still has a ton of potential and he could really be physically molded by a pro strength coach.

Weaknesses:
Doesn't always play with proper leverage...Does not have a great burst of closing speed...Has to develop some additional pass rush moves...Is inconsistent and will disappear from the action at times...Needs some technique work and is not yet a finished product...Is he overrated simply due to his being extraordinarily young?

Notes:
Has four years of Division I playing experience but will still only be a 20-year-old rookie in the NFL...A native of Nigeria who tested into the 9th grade as a 12-year-old and played at Louisville as a 16-year-old true freshman in '03...The NFL Draft has never seen a prospect quite like this and even though he is already a very good player now it's his upside that is really intriguing...Impact interior lineman.


And...


Has grown up in the Cardinals' football program... signed with Louisville when he was 15... big, strong athlete who'll bolster the defensive line... has gotten better each season... runs well for his size... run-stopper the Cardinals' need to keep their steady improvement on defense.
Career Notes: Has played in 35 games, including 11 as a starter... burst on the scene in 2003 as the youngest player in the NCAA at 16 years of age.
2005: Registered 23 tackles and four tackles for loss... recorded four tackles against West Virginia... returned to action versus North Carolina and recorded one tackle... didn't play against Florida Atlantic because of a foot sprain... notched three tackles against South Florida... registered two tackles and recovered a fumble versus Kentucky.
2004: Appeared in 11 of 12 games... recorded 26 total tackles and a sack... didn't play versus ECU because of a shoulder injury... made only collegiate start versus Army and responded with a career-high seven tackles... recorded one tackle in the season opener against Kentucky.
2003: The youngest player in college football at 16 years old... one of eight true freshman to earn time... played in all 13 games at defensive tackle... credited with 17 tackles, two tackles for loss and a sack... recorded a career-best four tackles against Tulane... registered three tackles versus Army and Memphis... notched first career sack versus UTEP.
Lee High School: Originally hails from Anambra, Nigeria ... extremely bright ... size, speed and work ethic are pluses ... tested into the ninth grade as a 12-year-old when his family moved to Huntsville from Nigeria ... played three years of prep football ... took up the sport as a sophomore, knowing next to nothing about the game ... started 13 games on the defensive line as a 13-year-old ... played both ways, earning honorable mention all-state honors as a junior ... logged 60 tackles and nine sacks, earning first-team All-State honors on both sides of the ball as a senior.


Personal Profile: Son of Augustine and Edna Okoye... born 6/10/87... Psychology major.

[listopencil]

Out of all that, he was a psychology major. So he's not a rocket scientist. He's smart as **** for a D-Lineman.

[Dedhed]

If we move to 10...it will be for Carriker.

I could be wrong...but I don't think I am.Fack that!

[-Slap-]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=55769

You want Willis so bad, doesn't matter what the Broncos do, it's just another indicator they want Willis. But, yeah, I'm trying to tell you what you're thinking.

Yep, I made that statement without a trace of irony, too. You're like a ten year old sometimes. I've also said on here about 100 times the mere fact that I really want Patrick Willis makes it virtually impossible we'll draft him. The Broncos have made a pact with Satan to never give me the player I really want in round one, even when I'm right. It sucks, but I persevere.

I can look at the nine million articles speculating about Willis the last couple weeks two ways. I can either enjoy myself and spend the last hours before the draft getting excited about the idea, or I can sit here like some bitter know-it-all and get depressed over them getting my hopes up and dashing them. I would rather have a good time during one of my favorite times of the year, so I'm going to hold out hope we'll select the second best player in the Draft @ 10 and take Patrick Willis.

[TheChamp24]

Slap, I want you to be perfectly honest with me.
If the Broncos select Willis, will you need a change of underwear afterwards?

[-Slap-]

Slap, I want you to be perfectly honest with me.
If the Broncos select Willis, will you need a change of underwear afterwards?

Calvin Johnson, Patrick Willis, LaRon Landry, Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams would satiate me.

My biggest fear about hanging around @ 21 isn't that there won't be excellent players still on the board, because there will be several, I'm just concerned we won't take the right one. We really can't go wrong @ 10.

[TheChamp24]

One thing I'm wondering about, is will we take Adrian Peterson at 10 if he's there?

[Taco John]

Calvin Johnson, Jamaal Anderson, Laron Landry...

That's my wish list...

[maven]

Okay, this is off topic, but are all avatars and sigs disabled in hopes that it will enable this site from not crashing tomorrow?

It won't make a difference. The site will still crash.

[-Slap-]

One thing I'm wondering about, is will we take Adrian Peterson at 10 if he's there?

Only if we're crazy. Travis Henry is just fine. Why alienate the guy by bringing in another RB, like the Bills did to him after he delivered almost 2800 yards and 23 touchdowns in 02/03?

[maven]

One thing I'm wondering about, is will we take Adrian Peterson at 10 if he's there?

No. The Denver Broncos have holes & RB is not one of them.

[BroncoBuff]

Calvin Johnson, Patrick Willis, LaRon Landry, Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams would satiate me. We really can't go wrong @ 10.
Lemme do the math ...

2 QBs
1 WR
1 RB
1 OT

Okay, that's 5 ... works for me, unless AD drops out because of the injury talk.

Problem with Patrick is - and has been from the start- Ian Gold. Willis at MLB means we have to leave D.J. at Sam, playing just 2 of 3 downs. That's wasting a valuable asset. It would be so great if the Texans took Gold as part of the trade.

[Dukes]

It would be so great if the Texans took Gold as part of the trade.

No kidding, being able to include Gold in a draft day trade would be a godsend.

[maven]

Lemme do the math ...

2 QBs
1 WR
1 RB
1 OT

Okay, that's 5 ... works for me, unless AD drops out because of the injury talk.

Problem with Patrick is - and has been from the start- Ian Gold. Willis at MLB means we have to leave D.J. at Sam, playing just 2 of 3 downs. That's wasting a valuable asset. It would be so great if the Texans took Gold as part of the trade.

Um.... Hello! Denver is not drafting a LB with the 1st pick.

[-Slap-]

Lemme do the math ...

2 QBs
1 WR
1 RB
1 OT

Okay, that's 5 ... works for me, unless AD drops out because of the injury talk.

Problem with Patrick is - and has been from the start- Ian Gold. Willis at MLB means we have to leave D.J. at Sam, playing just 2 of 3 downs. That's wasting a valuable asset. It would be so great if the Texans took Gold as part of the trade.

I'm done fretting about Ian. The new coaching staff knows the score and his days are numbered. We'll have, at most, one more year of his grab tackling and pointless celebrations.

[Clockwork Orange]

One thing I'm wondering about, is will we take Adrian Peterson at 10 if he's there?

No. Travis Henry wasn't brought in to be a stopgap or the latest system back. He's a proven performer outside of the Broncos system, so there's no reason to believe he won't be outstanding in it. He's going to be here for a while.

[jossjeff]

Seeing as how you're from Arkansas, there's really no way of knowing if this is sarcasm.

I laughed.

[jossjeff]

BTW is this confirmed yet?

I'm not reading this whole **** thread.

[Clockwork Orange]

No, it isn't.

[The MVPlaya]

Um.... Hello! Denver is not drafting a LB with the 1st pick.

Says who? Have you heard of Patrick Willis?

[Bob]

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 302 | 40-Time: 4.97

Strengths:
Extremely strong...A solid athlete with good measurables...Stout against the run and is able to take on multiple blockers...Gets a good push and will collapse the pocket...Is able to shed blocks and clog up the middle...Shows great instincts for the game and is still developing...Smart player who is mature beyond his years and wants to improve...Quick and will penetrate and rush the passer...Still has a ton of potential and he could really be physically molded by a pro strength coach.

Weaknesses:
Doesn't always play with proper leverage...Does not have a great burst of closing speed...Has to develop some additional pass rush moves...Is inconsistent and will disappear from the action at times...Needs some technique work and is not yet a finished product...Is he overrated simply due to his being extraordinarily young?

Notes:
Has four years of Division I playing experience but will still only be a 20-year-old rookie in the NFL...A native of Nigeria who tested into the 9th grade as a 12-year-old and played at Louisville as a 16-year-old true freshman in '03...The NFL Draft has never seen a prospect quite like this and even though he is already a very good player now it's his upside that is really intriguing...Impact interior lineman.


And...


Has grown up in the Cardinals' football program... signed with Louisville when he was 15... big, strong athlete who'll bolster the defensive line... has gotten better each season... runs well for his size... run-stopper the Cardinals' need to keep their steady improvement on defense.
Career Notes: Has played in 35 games, including 11 as a starter... burst on the scene in 2003 as the youngest player in the NCAA at 16 years of age.
2005: Registered 23 tackles and four tackles for loss... recorded four tackles against West Virginia... returned to action versus North Carolina and recorded one tackle... didn't play against Florida Atlantic because of a foot sprain... notched three tackles against South Florida... registered two tackles and recovered a fumble versus Kentucky.
2004: Appeared in 11 of 12 games... recorded 26 total tackles and a sack... didn't play versus ECU because of a shoulder injury... made only collegiate start versus Army and responded with a career-high seven tackles... recorded one tackle in the season opener against Kentucky.
2003: The youngest player in college football at 16 years old... one of eight true freshman to earn time... played in all 13 games at defensive tackle... credited with 17 tackles, two tackles for loss and a sack... recorded a career-best four tackles against Tulane... registered three tackles versus Army and Memphis... notched first career sack versus UTEP.
Lee High School: Originally hails from Anambra, Nigeria ... extremely bright ... size, speed and work ethic are pluses ... tested into the ninth grade as a 12-year-old when his family moved to Huntsville from Nigeria ... played three years of prep football ... took up the sport as a sophomore, knowing next to nothing about the game ... started 13 games on the defensive line as a 13-year-old ... played both ways, earning honorable mention all-state honors as a junior ... logged 60 tackles and nine sacks, earning first-team All-State honors on both sides of the ball as a senior.


Personal Profile: Son of Augustine and Edna Okoye... born 6/10/87... Psychology major.

But does he hold up well enough against the run for Bates to overlook his size?

[mhgaffney]

Willis is a safer pick than Anderson.

I suspect that story in the Denver press about how we are after Anderson is just misdirection from the FO.

[Bob]

No kidding, being able to include Gold in a draft day trade would be a godsend.

Gold gets no love around here. I never saw anything that made me think, man get this guy off the field. What does he do/not do that pisses folks off?
He is a small guy with great speed, so if we put two 340 pounders at tackle that might free up some lanes.

[AboveAverage]

Calvin Johnson, Patrick Willis, LaRon Landry, Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams would satiate me.

:rofl:

I'm not the only one who hopes you get your wish!

[SportinOne]

What? The speculation is the fun part. Kind of like fore play. Ha!

If the Broncos are going to trade up to ten, I'm guessing they'll wait until Texas is on the board and they see somebody they want.

Indeed, this IS the fun part. My ship has just pulled into Guam and i have duty the first night so i'll be here, 2am, 3am, whatever. But when the Broncos pick their first rounder im done. If we really did trade our 2nd then it's going to be a pretty boring draft for us.

[-Slap-]

Indeed, this IS the fun part. My ship has just pulled into Guam and i have duty the first night so i'll be here, 2am, 3am, whatever. But when the Broncos pick their first rounder im done. If we really did trade our 2nd then it's going to be a pretty boring draft for us.

From what we've been able to gather, its this year's number one, plus one of our third rounders, not sure which, 70 or 86. The second rounder is from next year.

[SportinOne]

That sounds like a lot to give up for the 10th pick overall. Maybe it was just that we got away with murder last year. I dont know.

[eddie mac]

That sounds like a lot to give up for the 10th pick overall. Maybe it was just that we got away with murder last year. I dont know.

We did very well with the Falcons/Jets triple trade but the trade for 11 was just over the value points chart.

[listopencil]

But does he hold up well enough against the run for Bates to overlook his size?

302 lbs and 6'2"....at the age of 19. His size is perfect.