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footstepsfrom#27
04-26-2007, 11:54 PM
If you didn't already have good reason to hate the Dallas Cowboys, you do now...

I heard this from a couple people tonight who tell me it's in today's hard copy edition of the Dallas Business Journal, but the online version doesn't contain it, so I'll have to check tomorrow, but I did find this one small link and another reference on a blog. Here it is: http://slugbait.spaces.live.com/

Apparently Jerry Jones is looking to further mitigate his costs for the new $1 billion Cowboys stadium down the road from me here in Arlington with a source other than Arlington taxpayers, who decided to kick in only a paultry $325 million for Jerry's new toy. Jones, who won approval from the voters on this issue partly because he said he would be picking up the rest of the tab, has decided he doesn't want to pay for it afterall...for or any of it...as in NONE...as in ZIP, NADA, ZERO...no moolah out of his pocket. Instead he's decided he's taking bids from corporate sponsor for naming rights to raise the capital. His price? $1 billion...the same as the cost of the stadium.

No big deal you say? Guess who one of the finalists is?

Can you say EXXON Mobile? Right...Dallas-based EXXON Mobile...the 2nd largest revenue corporation in the world (Wal Mart just passed them) is considering giving Jerry a billion bucks...sweet.

You know what that means don't ya? Right...get ready to pay for this at the gas pump suckers!! :thumbs: Think about this tomorrow when you're trying to decide between EXXON and that that other brand accross the street.

I certainly will...

chaz
04-27-2007, 12:01 AM
what a douchebag...what stations does exxon own?

Broncobiv
04-27-2007, 12:11 AM
what a douchebag...what stations does exxon own?
ExxonMobil owns Exxon, and Mobil, for two.

RhymesayersDU
04-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Interesting.

But, to be fair here, Jerry Jones doesn't care how Exxon gets the money, nor should he.

chaz
04-27-2007, 12:32 AM
ExxonMobil owns Exxon, and Mobil, for two.

wow....thanks....

maven
04-27-2007, 12:37 AM
If you didn't already have good reason to hate the Dallas Cowboys, you do now...

I heard this from a couple people tonight who tell me it's in today's hard copy edition of the Dallas Business Journal, but the online version doesn't contain it, so I'll have to check tomorrow, but I did find this one small link and another reference on a blog. Here it is: http://slugbait.spaces.live.com/

Apparently Jerry Jones is looking to further mitigate his costs for the new $1 billion Cowboys stadium down the road from me here in Arlington with a source other than Arlington taxpayers, who decided to kick in only a paultry $325 million for Jerry's new toy. Jones, who won approval from the voters on this issue partly because he said he would be picking up the rest of the tab, has decided he doesn't want to pay fit afterall...for or any of it...as in NONE...as in ZIP, NADA, ZERO...no moolah out of his pocket. Instead he's decided he's taking bids from corporate sponsor for naming rights to raise the capital. His price? $1 billion...the same as the cost of the stadium.

No big deal you say? Guess who one of the finalists is?

Can you say EXXON Mobile? Right...Dallas-based EXXON Mobile...the 2nd largest revenue corporation in the world (Wal Mart just passed them) is considering giving Jerry a billion bucks...sweet.

You know what that means don't ya? Right...get ready to pay for this at the gas pump suckers!! :thumbs: Think about this tomorrow when you're trying to decide between EXXON and that that other brand accross the street.

I certainly will...

Now that is what I call a business man. And I don't see the correlation that we're paying for it.

shakenbake
04-27-2007, 12:39 AM
I would be suprised if he would get 1 billion for naming rights. As far as Exxon goes I haven't looked latley but what exactly is thier profit marign?

Raidersbane
04-27-2007, 12:48 AM
I would be suprised if he would get 1 billion for naming rights. As far as Exxon goes I haven't looked latley but what exactly is thier profit marign?

Ask the White House. That's where all the top oil people hang out now.....

maven
04-27-2007, 12:48 AM
I haven't looked latley but what exactly is thier profit marign?

You're not serious right? Even avg Joe knows they're printing money these days. But, avg joes fail to mention it wasn't always this. But, you would have to be a bozo to not have an oil company in your portfolio these days and for the future. $39.5 billion in profits in '06. Someone mentioned walmart was #1. But, who cares about revenue, I'll take a profit hungry company any day

maven
04-27-2007, 12:52 AM
Ask the White House. .

Yes. Oil was roughly $25 bucks a barrel the day United States invaded Iraq.

maven
04-27-2007, 12:55 AM
I'm still waiting for the cheap Iraqi oil that invading the country would provide us. LOL

shaun514
04-27-2007, 12:56 AM
If you didn't already have good reason to hate the Dallas Cowboys, you do now...

I heard this from a couple people tonight who tell me it's in today's hard copy edition of the Dallas Business Journal, but the online version doesn't contain it, so I'll have to check tomorrow, but I did find this one small link and another reference on a blog. Here it is: http://slugbait.spaces.live.com/

Apparently Jerry Jones is looking to further mitigate his costs for the new $1 billion Cowboys stadium down the road from me here in Arlington with a source other than Arlington taxpayers, who decided to kick in only a paultry $325 million for Jerry's new toy. Jones, who won approval from the voters on this issue partly because he said he would be picking up the rest of the tab, has decided he doesn't want to pay fit afterall...for or any of it...as in NONE...as in ZIP, NADA, ZERO...no moolah out of his pocket. Instead he's decided he's taking bids from corporate sponsor for naming rights to raise the capital. His price? $1 billion...the same as the cost of the stadium.

No big deal you say? Guess who one of the finalists is?

Can you say EXXON Mobile? Right...Dallas-based EXXON Mobile...the 2nd largest revenue corporation in the world (Wal Mart just passed them) is considering giving Jerry a billion bucks...sweet.

You know what that means don't ya? Right...get ready to pay for this at the gas pump suckers!! :thumbs: Think about this tomorrow when you're trying to decide between EXXON and that that other brand accross the street.

I certainly will...

Sounds like it's Exxon's problem more than Jerry Jones. I doubt he cares who the investors are.

maven
04-27-2007, 01:01 AM
Sounds like it's Exxon's problem more than Jerry Jones. I doubt he cares who the investors are.

Jerry Jones made his money in oil, and the family currently owns a natural resource prospecting company. Exxon or any oil or services company based in Texas and jerry jones seems like a perfect fit to me.

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 01:05 AM
My point is that oil companies find ways to pass on costs to consumers just like any other business...but I think people are universally impacted by rising oil prices as opposed to other things more localized. IF they do put up a bllion $ for naming rights...would it suprise anyone if they tacked on an extra penney a gallon? :wiggle:

maven
04-27-2007, 01:16 AM
My point is that oil companies find ways to pass on costs to consumers just like any other business...but I think people are universally impacted by rising oil prices as opposed to other things more localized. IF they do put up a bllion $ for naming rights...would it suprise anyone if they tacked on an extra penney a gallon? :wiggle:

They don't have to. Oil companies don't have to do a damn thing. Some bs crap in the middle east or africa will do that for them. Easy example. Iran captures 15 british sailors. Oil goes up $10 bucks.

Atlas
04-27-2007, 03:19 AM
I would be suprised if he would get 1 billion for naming rights. As far as Exxon goes I haven't looked latley but what exactly is thier profit marign?


They made $39 billion last year.. That was $39 billion PROFIT

Zman
04-27-2007, 05:40 AM
No worse than have to pay for fricking Invesco Field in Denver...they make plenty of money...let them pay for their own damn stadium...fricking free loaders...and the morons in this city that went along with paying for it...

TailgateNut
04-27-2007, 09:33 AM
No worse than have to pay for fricking Invesco Field in Denver...they make plenty of money...let them pay for their own damn stadium...fricking free loaders...and the morons in this city that went along with paying for it...


Hey dingleberry, the only issue with paying for Incestco Field, is the fact that they didn't keep the name. The voters approved the mini tax which funded the city's portion of the construction costs.

Dukes
04-27-2007, 09:36 AM
What gas stations/companies use gas from Venezuela?

Tredici
04-27-2007, 09:42 AM
My point is that oil companies find ways to pass on costs to consumers just like any other business...but I think people are universally impacted by rising oil prices as opposed to other things more localized. IF they do put up a bllion $ for naming rights...would it suprise anyone if they tacked on an extra penney a gallon? :wiggle:

Think all of these corporations put their name on the landscape as a charity event?


REBRANDED STADIUMS (AND THEIR FORMER NAMES)
1. KeyArena (Seattle Center Coliseum)
2. Qwest Field (Seahawks Stadium)
3. AT&T Park* (Pacific Bell Park, SBC Park)
4. McAfee Coliseum (Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, Network Associates Coliseum)
5. Monster Park (Candlestick Park, 3Com Park)
6. HP Pavilion (San Jose Arena, Compaq Center)
7. Arrowhead Pond (Anaheim Arena)
8. Qualcomm Stadium (San Diego Stadium, Jack Murphy Stadium)
9. Chase Field (Bank One Ballpark)
10. US Airways Arena (America West Arena)
11. Pengrowth Saddledome (Olympic Saddledome, Canadian Airlines Saddledome)
12. Rexall Place (Northlands Coliseum, Edmonton Coliseum, Skyreach Centre)
13. Edward Jones Dome (Trans World Dome, Dome at America's Center)
14. Savvis Center (Kiel Center)
15. Gaylord Entertainment Center (Nashville Arena)
16. Ameriquest Field (The Ballpark at Arlington)
17. AT&T Center* (SBC Center)
18. Minute Maid Park (Enron Field, Astros Field)
19. US Cellular Field (Comiskey Park)
20. RCA Dome (Hoosier Dome)
21. Quicken Loans Arena (Gund Arena)
22. Mellon Arena (Civic Center)
23. HSBC Arena (Marine Midland Arena)
24. Rogers Centre (SkyDome)
25. Corel Centre (The Palladium)
26. Bell Centre (Molson Centre)
27. TD Banknorth Garden (FleetCenter)
28. Continental Airlines Arena (Brendan Byrne Arena)
29. Wachovia Center (CoreStates Center, First Union Center)
30. M&T Bank Stadium (Ravens Stadium, PSINet Stadium)
31. FedEx Field (Jack Kent Cooke Stadium)
32. RBC Center (Raleigh Entertainment and Sports Arena)
33. Bank of America Stadium (Carolinas Stadium, Ericsson Stadium)
34. Alltel Stadium (Jacksonville Municipal Stadium)
35. TD Waterhouse Centre (Orlando Arena)
36. Tropicana Field (Florida Suncoast Dome, Thunderdome)
37. St. Pete Times Forum (Ice Palace)
38. BankAtlantic Center (Broward County Civic Arena, National Car Rental Center, Office Depot Center)

Why Invesco Field at Mile High isn't on that list, don't know. There are probably more.

So Jerry is following a well traveled trail.

:bandwagon


::)

BroncoFanatic
04-27-2007, 09:45 AM
What gas stations/companies use gas from Venezuela?

Citgo

Paladin
04-27-2007, 09:55 AM
Valero

Tredici
04-27-2007, 09:58 AM
All of them taking crude out of the pipelines the Venz goes into...

KipCorrington25
04-27-2007, 10:31 AM
Exxon has no stations in Denver, problem solved.

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 10:32 AM
::)
The difference of course being that most people don't drop a C note a week on Tropicana orance juice or ATM fees at Bank of America...I count 6 on that list I do buisness with. Oil prices on the other hand impact not just your gas tank and heating bill, but the price of every item in the grocery store. This is basically a Billion $ in advertising costs that I'm sure they'll find a way to recuperate. I'll never notice it of course, just like I don't notice the 1/2 cent sales tax JJ squeezes out of me each time I buy something iin Arlington or the $7 extra tab on hotels and car rentals...it's more the principle of the thing, the fact that I get to see his monstrosity every day when I drive 5 minutes south of here, the traffic nightmare it's going to create coming from Dallas to Arlington, and the fact that, well...it's JERRY JONES...if you can't work up a good grouch for JJ and big oil what can ya get mad at? :approve:

True story...

Ten years ago JJ wanted to build a shameless monument to his ego here in Irving about 4 miles from the current Texas Stadium site...a Cowboys theme park complete with rides for the kiddies, a Cowboys museum, etc...locals dubbed it "Jerry World"...and he orchestrated a series of questionable land grabs here with a little extra help from some local political hacks on the city council, a few crooked bankers and the city of Irving's power of eminent domain. Some of these land grabs involved screwing a bunch of old people who'd lived there for about 60 years out of their houses through a scheme his lawyer hatched to influence the DFW Airport Board...but I digress...

To pay for this venture, rather than spend his own dough, he tried to get the city of Irving, a mostly blue collar, lower and lower middle class collection of working class neighborhoods...to vote the city out of the DART system (Dallas Area Rapid Transit) and use the savings on Jerry World instead...in other words he wanted people who ride the bus and don't have a car to back his crappy theme park with their tax dollars instead of their only source of public transportation.

Gotta love that guy eh? :yayaya:

TexanBob
04-27-2007, 11:42 AM
Judging from the design of the stadium, I always thought McDonald's would be a natural corporate sponsor. Even name it "The McBallpark in Arlington".

Popcorn Sutton
04-27-2007, 11:54 AM
If Reliant stadium cost less than $300 million to build.. What exactly is the plan for Dallas at three times the cost? Just curious... is there models out there for the proposed billion dollar stadium?

texpat
04-27-2007, 01:03 PM
My point is that oil companies find ways to pass on costs to consumers just like any other business...but I think people are universally impacted by rising oil prices as opposed to other things more localized. IF they do put up a bllion $ for naming rights...would it suprise anyone if they tacked on an extra penney a gallon? :wiggle:

So footsteps, next time you get a raise, do you think your company may adjust the price of it's product or service to cover it.

I guess you will forgo the raise, just so no one else will be effected.

IN OTHER WORDS, GET OVER IT!

400HZ
04-27-2007, 01:22 PM
If Reliant stadium cost less than $300 million to build.. What exactly is the plan for Dallas at three times the cost? Just curious... is there models out there for the proposed billion dollar stadium?

All the new football stadiums are ~$1 billion. It's even worse in hippy states like California when they have to pay for hundreds of environmental impact reports, pay ridiculous property taxes, and buy Arnold's dumbass emission credits. That's all in addition to construction property costing 2 or 3 times as much as other areas. Then you have to factor in that liberal states tend to have more retarded politicians and you start running into even more problems such as the enormous debt in San Diego from not paying the city pension fund.

It almost takes a tycoon like Jerry Jones to get things done.

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 01:30 PM
If Reliant stadium cost less than $300 million to build.. What exactly is the plan for Dallas at three times the cost? Just curious... is there models out there for the proposed billion dollar stadium?
This thing's supposed to be the Taj Mahal of stadiums. It will seat 80,000, expandable to 100,000...with a retractable roof and retractale field like the Cardinals have. They'll have all kinds of shops and restaurants built into the thing, etc...

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 01:43 PM
So footsteps, next time you get a raise, do you think your company may adjust the price of it's product or service to cover it.

I guess you will forgo the raise, just so no one else will be effected.

IN OTHER WORDS, GET OVER IT!
Get over what? This thead is about an opportunity to bash the Crackboys and their egomaniacal owner...what's not to like about that?

Now let me get this straight...you're comparing a business that pays taxes and figures it's overhead into the cost of its services with one that gets to tax people who don't use their services and then has big oil pick up the slack for a billion dollars by billing more people who don't use their servides. Have I got that right? Not quite the same thing there sport.

And I work for myself...I don't get raises...I get headaches. I do however, get to take off whenever I want. ;D

DenverBrit
04-27-2007, 01:44 PM
If you didn't already have good reason to hate the Dallas Cowboys, you do now...

I heard this from a couple people tonight who tell me it's in today's hard copy edition of the Dallas Business Journal, but the online version doesn't contain it, so I'll have to check tomorrow, but I did find this one small link and another reference on a blog. Here it is: http://slugbait.spaces.live.com/

Apparently Jerry Jones is looking to further mitigate his costs for the new $1 billion Cowboys stadium down the road from me here in Arlington with a source other than Arlington taxpayers, who decided to kick in only a paultry $325 million for Jerry's new toy. Jones, who won approval from the voters on this issue partly because he said he would be picking up the rest of the tab, has decided he doesn't want to pay for it afterall...for or any of it...as in NONE...as in ZIP, NADA, ZERO...no moolah out of his pocket. Instead he's decided he's taking bids from corporate sponsor for naming rights to raise the capital. His price? $1 billion...the same as the cost of the stadium.

No big deal you say? Guess who one of the finalists is?

Can you say EXXON Mobile? Right...Dallas-based EXXON Mobile...the 2nd largest revenue corporation in the world (Wal Mart just passed them) is considering giving Jerry a billion bucks...sweet.

You know what that means don't ya? Right...get ready to pay for this at the gas pump suckers!! :thumbs: Think about this tomorrow when you're trying to decide between EXXON and that that other brand accross the street.

I certainly will...

This is the norm around the country. Selling the stadium name is how stadiums get built. As for EXXON, they, like every other sponsor, must stay competitive, so inflating at the pump won't work. EXXON have plenty of competition who will happily take our business. Anyway, they continue to get huge tax breaks which SHOULD concern us all.

Crushaholic
04-27-2007, 01:49 PM
An oil company is the perfect sponsor for those slimeballs...

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 01:55 PM
An oil company is the perfect sponsor for those slimeballs...
:thumbsup: ...somebody who actually gets it! :thumbsup:

footstepsfrom#27
04-27-2007, 01:59 PM
This is the norm around the country. Selling the stadium name is how stadiums get built.
Thanks for the update...I'd never have guessed that. ;)
As for EXXON, they, like every other sponsor, must stay competitive, so inflating at the pump won't work. EXXON have plenty of competition who will happily take our business. Anyway, they continue to get huge tax breaks which SHOULD concern us all.
Right...EXXON tacks on a penney a gallon and they'll go under...got it. Hilarious!

DenverBrit
04-27-2007, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the update...I'd never have guessed that. ;)




Then I missed the point of this thread. ;D