Rumor - Broncos trade to 10

[DrFate]

I was sent this by a friend. I post it not because of the trade partner, but because of the targeted players.

The Houston Texans and Denver Broncos are close to a deal in which the teams will exchange first round picks, giving the Broncos the tenth selection in round one.

Denver is targeting two players with that choice; Patrick Willis, the linebacker from Mississippi and Nebraska defensive lineman Adam Carriker. Denver feels they must move ahead of San Francisco as the Niners have WILLIS rated highly and could take him with the eleventh pick.

If the trade occurs the Texans will target Texas cornerback Aaron Ross later on in round one.

I'd be pretty peeved if we move up to 10 and take Carriker. I just don't think he is that highly rated. Thoughts welcome.

[Hotrod]

Water is wet

[Conklin]

smoke is grey?

[Garcia Bronco]

I hope this is true...not because I know anything about Willis....SLAP said hell be good...so he'll be good.

:)

[Hotrod]

I was sent this by a friend. I post it not because of the trade partner, but because of the targeted players.

The Houston Texans and Denver Broncos are close to a deal in which the teams will exchange first round picks, giving the Broncos the tenth selection in round one.

Denver is targeting two players with that choice; Patrick Willis, the linebacker from Mississippi and Nebraska defensive lineman Adam Carriker. Denver feels they must move ahead of San Francisco as the Niners have WILLIS rated highly and could take him with the eleventh pick.

If the trade occurs the Texans will target Texas cornerback Aaron Ross later on in round one.

I'd be pretty peeved if we move up to 10 and take Carriker. I just don't think he is that highly rated. Thoughts welcome.

Sorry man ;D

This has been hashed over at great length. Check out the draft forum

[Kaylore]

GET WILLIS!!!!

[Clockwork Orange]

GET WILLIS!!!!

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout?

[Hotrod]

GET WILLIS!!!!

Im gonna go find every post you've ever made and give you REP ;D

[DrFate]

Sorry man ;D

This has been hashed over at great length. Check out the draft forum

I've only seen discussion re: Willis, nothing on Carriker. I think Carriker at 10 is too early.

[Hotrod]

I've only seen discussion re: Willis, nothing on Carriker. I think Carriker at 10 is too early.

I've been thinking about/hearing that. I guess if they really want a pass rushing DE they will have to take him to high or risk him not being there. Pass rushing DE's are not easy to come by.

[BroncoInferno]

I don't buy Carriker as the target. He does not fit Bates' scheme as a DE. Bates' scheme calls for explosion off the edges, and that is not Carriker's strong suit. If a DE is the target, it will more likely be Anderson or Adams (in the unlikely event Gaines is still available @ #10).

[2KBack]

Willis is the one non D-line player I wouldn't mind picking. That includes guys like calvin johnson. Willis is the kind of freak front seven player that Denver hasn't seen in ages.

[Barry Ramey]

If they trade that high, it would have to be Willis, though no guarantee Willis will still be around though since someoen could trade ahead of the Broncos and get him.

[telluride]

Pls no Carriker.

[That One Guy]

I don't buy anything saying we're going LB in round one, I just can't believe Denver wants another top LB that bad. We have a fortune in our corners, quite a bit in our LBs... we can't afford another top prospect at LB while Warren and 3 members of Broncomania could be rolled out as this year's Dline.

That being said, Carriker doesn't fit and 10 is one pick higher than 11, where SF is picking and another rumor said they wanted Anderson. Saying we want Carriker keeps SF from trying to flip up to 9 and them saying they want Willis could be to try and keep us from going all the way up to 10. It's all a jumble right now, no way of telling what is an intentional leak and what is legit.

[Kaylore]

There are a lot of great defenses built around stand out middle linebackers.

[Barry Ramey]

I don't buy anything saying we're going LB in round one, I just can't believe Denver wants another top LB that bad. We have a fortune in our corners, quite a bit in our LBs... we can't afford another top prospect at LB while Warren and 3 members of Broncomania could be rolled out as this year's Dline.

That being said, Carriker doesn't fit and 10 is one pick higher than 11, where SF is picking and another rumor said they wanted Anderson. Saying we want Carriker keeps SF from trying to flip up to 9 and them saying they want Willis could be to try and keep us from going all the way up to 10. It's all a jumble right now, no way of telling what is an intentional leak and what is legit.


Yes, in most cases I would agree, but you don't look to trade up that high unless really think the player you want will be really good. So, if this was really happening, you'd have to decide who is the better player and make more of an impact. You don't just trade up to get a DL just because it's a need and bypass someone at a position you could use who could be very good. That is why so many teams make mistakes in the draft, for that very reason.

[That One Guy]

Well I'm not really informed enough to say who would make a bigger impact - Willis or Anderson. I do think though if they graded out comparibly then you give preference to the position you need the most. We don't need another LB sitting out on all Nickel downs. I still think that's a big part of why Wilson is moving on.

[Inkana7]

Well I'm not really informed enough to say who would make a bigger impact - Willis or Anderson. I do think though if they graded out comparibly then you give preference to the position you need the most. We don't need another LB sitting out on all Nickel downs. I still think that's a big part of why Wilson is moving on.

That's kind of the concept of a Nickel package. Only two linebackers. No matter what, one will be sitting out.

[Rohirrim]

I think 10 puts them in Anderson, Willis, Okoye range. Maybe even Landry, if they got lucky.

[MechanicalBull]

rumors popping up everywhere. Let's see we have 2, 6, 10, 14 anything else so far? Let's see if we can get rumors about us going to all the other spots by the beginning of the draft.

[Crushaholic]

Just a straight up swap of picks? I don't believe that. What's the catch? Some rumors I can buy, but not this one...

[That One Guy]

rumors popping up everywhere. Let's see we have 2, 6, 10, 14 anything else so far? Let's see if we can get rumors about us going to all the other spots by the beginning of the draft.

Forget going to all the other spots, I want to know what it would take to GET all the other spots. Every single pick in the first round. I think we could pull out a good draft with those choices. I'd even give up our 2nd and both 3rds...

[MechanicalBull]

Forget going to all the other spots, I want to know what it would take to GET all the other spots. Every single pick in the first round. I think we could pull out a good draft with those choices. I'd even give up our 2nd and both 3rds...

I'd maybe throw in a future 6th with the possibility of turning it into a 5th rounder if more than 50% of them make the team and actually produce next year.

[Killericon]

Carriker?

AT 10??

These rumours get more retarded as the draft approaches...

[TexanBob]

There are a lot of great defenses built around stand out middle linebackers.

Urlacher and Ray Lewis to name two. I think Willis will be just as good as them. I don't think he'll quite make it to Butkus/Lambert/Singletary status but he'll be right below that. If you move up to get a guy, you're basically saying "I don't think we can find anyone close to being that good if we stay where we are". Willis fits that.

And Pat Bowlen has been on a high horse ever since the D-Will murder about guys keeping out of trouble. Willis certainly fits that too.

[listopencil]

I think 10 puts them in mumble, mumble, Okoye range. Maybe even mumble, if they got lucky.


I would love to get Okoye. It may be a pipe dream, but I would love that pick.

[Killericon]

I would love to get Okoye. It may be a pipe dream, but I would love that pick.

:thumbs:

[Kid A]

Carriker at 10 is not happening. At least it had better not. Only Willis, Anderson, or a slip by Okoye or Landry would make sense to trade up this much for.

[U GOT JACKED UP]

I go to the University of Nebraska and I will tell you that Carriker is well worth the 10th pick. The guy is an amazing athlete. I've watched him his whole career and he has dominated the big 12. His Junior year when he was allowed to play one on one he tore it up with the sacks. If you look at last years stats they aren't as impressive but he was double teamed every game. Under Bates' system the DT will be the ones being double teamed allowing him to play one on one and just out muscle the tackle. Plus he can play DT. He can switch places on the D Line which makes him even more valuable to us.

[MechanicalBull]

I really don't want Carriker to begin with but I wouldn't be that upset if we got him, but I definitley dont' want him at 10.

[telluride]

Just say no to Nebraska underachievers.

Carriker = Croel v.2.0

[NFLBRONCO]

Scout.com (premium ) is reporting that Denver is close to a trade deal that would put them in position to draft Willis, Carriker, or Okoye. Can anyone confirm

[Rich Karlis]

I think 10 puts them in Anderson, Willis, Okoye range. Maybe even Landry, if they got lucky.

Landry would be a dream come true. Move Lynch over to SS and give Laron the FS job right out of the gate. His brother Dawan started as a rookie for the ratbirds last year and had 69 tkls. with 5 picks.

[Requiem]

Look at the past Nebraska DE's who were solid in college, who came into the pros and tell me they're the kind of players we need.

Underachieve.

I'll vacate life if we draft 'em.

[NFLBRONCO]

If we get 10 let CJ rumors start flying again

[NFLBRONCO]

Look at the past Nebraska DE's who were solid in college, who came into the pros and tell me they're the kind of players we need.

Underachieve.

I'll vacate life if we draft 'em.


I agree

[GonzoLays]

Levi Brown here we come!!!

[HEAV]

My sig nuff said

[BroncoBuff]

I go to the University of Nebraska and I will tell you that Carriker is well worth the 10th pick. The guy is an amazing athlete.

I agree he is amazing, but there's two problems:

1) Pass-rushing is not his strength, and he's prolly not fast/quick enough to play from the very wide DE stances in the Jim Bates scheme. In fact, some teams project him to DT. And at #10, Jamaal Anderson is a better DE for Denver. He has the size and strength of Carriker - plus the speed and quickness of Jarvis Moss - maybe even Gaines Adams
2) At #10, Willis is a much better player ... the Texans might even take Gold off our hands in this deal.


THIS IS A GREAT DEAL: If Shanny wants Willis at 10, PLEASE dump Gold in this trade. And if Shanny wants Anderson, we can play the #10 off between Buffalo and SF - they both want Willis. So we can recoup something, maybe even a 3rd of 4th, and still get Anderson at 11 or 12.

[HEAV]

THIS IS A GREAT DEAL: If Shanny wants Willis at 10, PLEASE dump Gold in this trade. If Shanny wants Anderson, we can deal the #10 down to Bufalo of SF - if we can bluff that we're interested in Willis.

Can't dump Gold. Too thin @ LB, he could be moved to the strongside and cover TE's all day. That way DJ could play his most natural position Weakside.

[Kaylore]

Can't dump Gold. Too thin @ LB, he could be moved to the strongside and cover TE's all day. That way DJ could play his most natural position Weakside.
I disagree. I wouldn't mind packaging Gold up and then taking Willis and moving DJ back to will. We're already cutting huge amounts of cap so trading Gold would really clean things out and open up a ton of cap room next season.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Just say no to Nebraska underachievers.

Carriker = Croel v.2.0

Great scouting report!

[OrangeShadow]

kipers latest mock has anderson falling to 21? man this stuff is making my dizzy

[GonzoLays]

Without a shadow of a doubt, we are going OT in the first round.

THE GREAT GONZOLAYS!!!

[Requiem]

If GonzoGays is right, he gets whatever he wants.

[OrangeShadow]

id love okoye, kids only 19 and a FREAK not to mention re-uniting him with elvis

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Another reason (with about another dozen threads) that shows why all the draft rumor stuff should not be moved to the draft forum this close to the draft.

[Sodak]

I have to work on draft day one. ****, ****ing, ****er...

I'm sure the Mane will crash.

[Broncoman13]

If the Broncos were to move up to #10 they would have a tough time if both Jamal Anderson and Patrick Willis were available!!!

[Clockwork Orange]

Another reason (with about another dozen threads) that shows why all the draft rumor stuff should not be moved to the draft forum this close to the draft.

But, but then some of mock's youtube threads might get bumped off the front page. We simply can't have that.

Anderson, Willis or Okoye would do nicely at #10.

[azbroncfan]

Willis doesn't fix the pass rush problem. Denver hasn't addressed the DL in the draft they have just straight up ignored it and everyone here will still be pissing and moaning about no pass rush. Just say no to LB in the first, DL, DL, DL.

[DarkHorse]

I would love LaRon Landry somehow someway.

[Dedhed]

Willis doesn't fix the pass rush problem. Denver hasn't addressed the DL in the draft they have just straight up ignored it and everyone here will still be pissing and moaning about no pass rush. Just say no to LB in the first, DL, DL, DL.Yes, we should ignore the fact that we have lost our starting MLB, and defensive captain and take a DL regardless of who's on the board. We should also ignore the fact that this draft is brutally thin at LB, and as deep as ever on the DL.:thumbs:

[phisig150]

Willis is the one non D-line player I wouldn't mind picking. That includes guys like calvin johnson. Willis is the kind of freak front seven player that Denver hasn't seen in ages.

Al Wilson ring a bell? DJ wasn't too bad his first year either. Dumerville in limited action got 8 1/2 sacks last year not too shabby. I would like Willis on the outside move DJ to middle. See if Elvs can handle signifcant playing time. Warren at full strength. A fatty in the third. We might be alright next year.

[Play2win]

Al Wilson ring a bell? DJ wasn't too bad his first year either. Dumerville in limited action got 8 1/2 sacks last year not too shabby. I would like Willis on the outside move DJ to middle. See if Elvs can handle signifcant playing time. Warren at full strength. A fatty in the third. We might be alright next year.

I still haven't seen a HIT or PLAY by Willis that hasn't been trumped by AL WILSON over the last few years.

I have to think we are de-emphasizing the role of the LB in our defense.

[phisig150]

I still haven't seen a HIT or PLAY by Willis that hasn't been trumped by AL WILSON over the last few years.

I have to think we are de-emphasizing the role of the LB in our defense.

Thank you. I love how people have developed amnesia when it comes to my boy AL lately. It's like he never played here or he was a scrub instead of a 5 time probowler. The guy has a career threatening injury. Give the man his due.Pat MIGHT be great Al will always be in my book.

[Denver Crush]

At this point I just want an immediate impact player if we're gonna move up. As long as we dont reach or draft like we have in the past with the paul toviessis and the ashley lelie types I think Ill be happy.

[2KBack]

Al Wilson ring a bell? DJ wasn't too bad his first year either. Dumerville in limited action got 8 1/2 sacks last year not too shabby. I would like Willis on the outside move DJ to middle. See if Elvs can handle signifcant playing time. Warren at full strength. A fatty in the third. We might be alright next year.

Al would be the closest thing we've had to a truely elite front 7 player, but even he had some major drawbacks. Al always had trouble shedding blocks, was an average blitzer and had a habit of going for the pop instead of a tackle.

Of course the problem is, there is no more Al Wilson.

[-Slap-]

God bless, Al Wilson.

Patrick Willis will do very well for himself if he has a career as impressive as Al's was. I think he has a higher ceiling, though.

[Taco John]

If we move up to 10, I'm looking for Willis, Landry or Anderson. I would be thrilled with any of these three at the 10 spot.

[Taco John]

Laron Landry vs. Brodi Croyle


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[Taco John]

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[bloodsunday]

I'd be pretty peeved if we move up to 10 and take Carriker. I just don't think he is that highly rated. Thoughts welcome.

I don't know what to think. The whole Al Wilson debacle really put us in a MAJOR whole as now we have two #1 priorities in LB and DE with Safety and OL both being 1a. Given that we have added to our areas of need by cutting Wilson, I think we should not move up and should keep our picks. Its not unlikely that Carriker could fall to 21 - probably 50/50. Plus we'd have to 2nd round picks to clean up. It sounds like we moving up would cost us an additional two picks (2nd and 3rd). That's a huge price to pay unless you get a playmaker.

I know he's a reach at #10, but I'd be hard pressed to say that I would be disappointed with Carriker. He's a hustle player and a guy at a position of need. If he wasn't from NU, he'd be perfect :)

[Steve Sewell]

I go to the University of Nebraska and I will tell you that Carriker is well worth the 10th pick. The guy is an amazing athlete. I've watched him his whole career and he has dominated the big 12. His Junior year when he was allowed to play one on one he tore it up with the sacks. If you look at last years stats they aren't as impressive but he was double teamed every game. Under Bates' system the DT will be the ones being double teamed allowing him to play one on one and just out muscle the tackle. Plus he can play DT. He can switch places on the D Line which makes him even more valuable to us.

Nebraska fans have NEVER been known to be delusional homers.

If you think a poor man's Grant Wistrom is worth a #10, by all means Shanny, trade up for him.

[Steve Sewell]

Landry would be a dream come true. Move Lynch over to SS and give Laron the FS job right out of the gate. His brother Dawan started as a rookie for the ratbirds last year and had 69 tkls. with 5 picks.

Landry is the player I most want out of any. Think Ed Reed type of impact.

[Steve Sewell]

id love okoye, kids only 19 and a FREAK not to mention re-uniting him with elvis

If we get Okoye, we may have to get Atwater back on the roster for practice this summer...you know, just to let anyone named Okoye know where he stands in the NFL.

[broncswin]

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LANDRY,LANDRY,LANDRY,LANDRY.............:notworthy

By the way I think we should get in position to pick up Landry:strong:

[Hotrod]

God bless, Al Wilson.

Patrick Willis will do very well for himself if he has a career as impressive as Al's was. I think he has a higher ceiling, though.

I love Al but sometimes the truth is what it is. Willis will have a better career then AL by a good measure..........short of an injury.

[azbroncfan]

Yes, we should ignore the fact that we have lost our starting MLB, and defensive captain and take a DL regardless of who's on the board. We should also ignore the fact that this draft is brutally thin at LB, and as deep as ever on the DL.:thumbs:

LB is the easiest position to find a quality player in the draft. LB's are only as good as the DL in front of them. So if Denver drafts Willis and has no pass rush next year I don't want to hear you bitching.

[Barry Ramey]

Landry would be great to get, but I can't see him going later than #8.

[Hotrod]

LB is the easiest position to find a quality player in the draft. LB's are only as good as the DL in front of them. So if Denver drafts Willis and has no pass rush next year I don't want to hear you b****ing.

I reserve the right to bitch regardless of the things I may or may not say during draft week. Its like football christmas in April ;D

I'm thinking the Houston trade is crapped out. They dont need/want mini-me and they need a OT pretty badly so at 10 one of the top 2 will be there. If so they are using their pick. 49ers are at 11 and will take Willis.

So Im on the Harris wagon and useing #56 on Dline

[Finger Roll]

LB is the easiest position to find a quality player in the draft. LB's are only as good as the DL in front of them. So if Denver drafts Willis and has no pass rush next year I don't want to hear you b****ing.

I agree. If they trade up all those picks to the 10 spot for a linebacker I'll be very pissed. Anderson and Levi Brown are the 2 players I want at 10.

[watermock]

Denver needs to draft and trade for QB, WR, TE, outside corners.

Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if we took almost every pick on D. I think at least 5.

[chaz]

I've only seen discussion re: Willis, nothing on Carriker. I think Carriker at 10 is too early.

i think ten is too early for carriker as well, and with the signing of two linebackers today i really dont think we are going to be drafting patrick willis as much as i'd like to see it happen...i hope if we get up to ten and go d-line that anderson is still there.

[chaz]

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hard to argue with...landry is bomb

[stoxman]

I've seen mocks with Carriker going that high...I just want NO part of it!

Willis would be a great addition...I want Jamaal as well! I see him better than Gaines in 3 yrs.

[Dedhed]

If we take Carriker at 10, I'll puke on my shoes. I would love Willis.

[Broncos_OTM]

I don't buy Carriker as the target. He does not fit Bates' scheme as a DE. Bates' scheme calls for explosion off the edges, and that is not Carriker's strong suit. If a DE is the target, it will more likely be Anderson or Adams (in the unlikely event Gaines is still available @ #10).

i see it like this. carriker is a strong side kinda guy. he does not fit our scheme. but if we dont get a clogger in the middle. and denver does select a pure pass rusher were gonna be in big time trouble.for obvious reasons. so if we cant get a clogger carriker is a good fit.although if we do get get him and a clogger next year. would he be a wasted pick.. the dude can play he wouldnt dissapoint but this high is way to early.

[Broncojef]

A move to 10 is for Jamal Anderson, Okoye or Willis period. Carriker should not even be discussed this high, I'll go into seclusion if we take him that early. If you want a Carriker stay at #21 and save the second and third rounder.

[Man-Goblin]

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Where do I sign up?

[Paladin]

Chaz: the two LBs signed today are not going to preclude drafting Willis, IF that is who is available when the Broncos pick - which is just flat not likely. Nonetheless, I don't think Willis is the target. I think it is Anderson if they can get him. If not, then I would not be surprised to see Harrell, Harris or even Staley at 1. The VALUE boys have gotten to me a bit.......

Can they trade down? Sure if they can find a partner......

So much speculation here, and I am thinking there is going to be a whole lot of disappointment come Saturday evening......

[Broncos24]

Well I'm not really informed enough to say who would make a bigger impact - Willis or Anderson. I do think though if they graded out comparibly then you give preference to the position you need the most. We don't need another LB sitting out on all Nickel downs. I still think that's a big part of why Wilson is moving on.

I agree with you..The coaches already said bout this that they need DJ on the field more, so why do we need another lineback on the top of the draft that we don't use that much. It must be Anderson. I hope!!

[OrangeShadow]

Draft Okoye!

[Dedhed]

I think a move to #10 could be to make a run at #2. Detroit has been reported to have interest in trading down, but not too far. Moving to #10 makes a trade to get CJ more of a possibility.

[ScottXray]

I think a move to #10 could be to make a run at #2. Detroit has been reported to have interest in trading down, but not too far. Moving to #10 makes a trade to get CJ more of a possibility.
To move up to even 14 from 21 requires 300 points and that equals the first pick in round 3 or the last round 2 pick. Our 56 round 2 is 340. Both round 3s are about even. And Carolina is asking for a round 2 PLUS additional next year for Jenkins.

To get to 10 or 11 this year is gonna take ALL our first day picks.
That would be foolish unless there is an absolute LOCK playmaker there, and there is no such thing in the draft. In addition, top 10 picks gets large signing bonus's and fairly large contracts, and they have not played a down at this level. Ricky Williams made Mike Ditka look like an an idiot. Actually he just proved it.

We took Jay Cutler at 11 last year. He looks to be good right now, but he isn't a proven commodity yet...he still could bust somehow (most of us doubt it, me included) or end up being an average QB. (see Houston and Carr) Last year we had the picks to make the move and still get the other players we took. This year we don't have that luxury.

We have lost our MLB to injury, our safeties are both old and/or coming off injury, and we have major needs to improve our pass rush and also have questions on the O-line at BOTH tackles. We need to get as MANY of those problems fixed as possible, and try to get value. Our scouts are going to have to EARN their pay this year.

We are not going to move up unless we have some way to SOLVE at least two of our problem areas by doing so, and that isn't looking likely. Moving to Ten gets us ONE first day pick and that solves nothing. Shanny isn't Ditka...It aint happening!:spit:

[Atlas]

Moving up to get some Ginn rummy!!!

[ton80]

A move to 10 is for Jamal Anderson, Okoye or Willis period. Carriker should not even be discussed this high, I'll go into seclusion if we take him that early. If you want a Carriker stay at #21 and save the second and third rounder.

Nice post. I agree with you.

[rovolution]

Carriker would be perfect for the San Francisco 49ers. He does not fit the Bates scheme as many here have pointed out. However, he would make for a stellar 3-4 DE, and the 49ers wont let him get away from their grasp.

[BroncoInferno]

Moving up to get some Ginn rummy!!!

I will need plenty of rum if we actually make the huge gaff of drafting Gumby (aka Ginn), and you'll need to pull me from the ledge if we actually move UP for him. He is not a good pick before the late 2nd, period.

[DenverDuo]

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Is it just me or is one of the hits there pretty much the same as the one Atwater laid in Superbowl XXXII? Yes pls.

[theAPAOps5]

Wow Landry had some solid licks in there and great passes defended. I am not sure if it was the music but that video got me pumped.

[Tombstone RJ]

I predict that if the Broncos move to 10 it's for Okoye only. Not Willis, not Anderson. Okoye is the target.

[Dedhed]

I predict that if the Broncos move to 10 it's for Okoye only. Not Willis, not Anderson. Okoye is the target.

I could definitely live with that.

[Atlas]

I will need plenty of rum if we actually make the huge gaff of drafting Gumby (aka Ginn), and you'll need to pull me from the ledge if we actually move UP for him. He is not a good pick before the late 2nd, period.

I'm sure you will change your tune by week six no matter who Ginn is playing for.

[BroncoInferno]

I'm sure you will change your tune by week six no matter who Ginn is playing for.

No, I won't, because I know he will make little impact as a WR. He may make an impact as a return man, but you don't take ST specialists before the 2nd round (yes, that includes Devon Harris).

[-Slap-]

I'm sure you will change your tune by week six no matter who Ginn is playing for.

By week six, huh?

Is the china doll going to be running on the high ankle sprain he suffered in January by week six? Most reports are he probably won't be ready for training camp.

Man, I would love to trade up for a small, skinny number four wideout/kick returner who nurses a sprained ankle for four months.