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Dudeskey
04-24-2007, 01:57 PM
I have $20 that says curious George will decline his offer...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/851755.html

By The Associated Press

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday proposed holding direct talks with United States President George W. Bush, Iran's state-run Arabic satellite TV channel reported.

The announcement came as a surprise form the leader whose country is at odds with Washington over its disputed nuclear program and involvement in Iraq.

"Last year, I announced readiness for a televised debate over global issues with his Excellency Mr. Bush. And now we announce that I am ready to negotiate with him about bilateral issues as well as regional and international issues," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying on the Web site of Al-Alam.

The Iranian leader did not elaborate on what specifically he wanted to talk to Bush about, but he said the talks should be held with media present.

It was not immediately clear if Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say in all state matters, supports Ahmadinejad's proposal.

Khamenei has regularly rejected any direct talks between Tehran and Washington because of what he calls the U.S. bullying policy toward Iran. The two countries have not had diplomatic relations since the 1979 storming of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

The Bush administration said the U.S. has already offered discussions.

"Instead of offering televised debates or a media spectacle, the United States has offered actual discussions, if Iran would only agree to what the international community has asked for repeatedly: stop uranium enrichment and reprocessing," Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House, said Monday. "We're ready whenever they are," he added.

Ahmadinejad's offer was not the first overture he has made to Bush. Last year, Ahmadinejad proposed holding a televised debate with the American president, but the White House called the offer a diversion from the legitimate concerns about Iran's nuclear program.

Also last year, Ahmadinejad wrote a letter to the U.S. president that Washington dismissed as irrelevant because it also did not address the issue of Iran's nuclear program.

The United States accuses Tehran of helping to fuel Shiite militias in Iraq - charges Iran denies. Washington also says Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons. Tehran also denies those allegations, saying its program is for peaceful purposes including generating electricity.

Ahmadinejad also told Al-Alam that he thought the U.S. was unlikely to use military force against Iran because of its nuclear program.

U.S. officials have said Washington has no plans to attack Iran.

"It is unlikely that such a will exists in the United States. I think there are enough wise people in the U.S. administration to prevent such a decision," Al-Alam's Web site quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

The Iranian leader said a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities was a wrong approach to solving the issue.

"If some think that by resorting to threats they (can) change the world in favor of themselves, they are wrong," Al-Alam quoted him as saying.

Earlier Monday, Ahmadinejad defended what he said were Iran's peaceful nuclear intentions and called on the European Union to speak for itself when it came to nuclear negotiations.

"If the EU wants to have a role internationally, it needs to act independently," the Iranian president told Spain's state television TVE. "If it wants to translate the words of the United States, for that we already have the United States," he added.

Iran and the European Union were to resume talks in Turkey on Wednesday over the Islamic Republic's nuclear program. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, said he was to meet with top Iranian negotiator, Ali Larijani, to see if Tehran can be persuaded to halt uranium enrichment in exchange for negotiations about economic incentives.

The UN Security Council has imposed sanctions on Tehran over its refusal to freeze enrichment. According to a document by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran has started feeding small amounts of uranium gas into centrifuges that can enrich it to weapons-grade level and is already running more than 1,300 of the machines.

The enrichment process can produce fuel for nuclear reactors or - if taken to a higher degree - the material for atomic bombs.

Bronco Bob
04-24-2007, 02:21 PM
World powers may relent on Iran uranium

By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago

ANKARA, Turkey - The United States and other world powers are willing to consider an Iranian proposal that would allow the country to keep some of its uranium enrichment program intact instead of dismantling it completely, government officials said Tuesday.

On the eve of talks between top Iranian envoy Ali Larijani and Javier Solana, the European Union's foreign policy chief, the officials — some of them diplomats, others based in their capitals — said the discussions were key because for the first time they could try to sidestep the deadlock over enrichment by trying to agree on a new definition of the term.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070424/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nuclear_iran

Dudeskey
04-24-2007, 02:25 PM
thx

TailgateNut
04-24-2007, 02:28 PM
I have $20 that says curious George will decline his offer...




It's not how manly cowboy from Texas handle problems!^5

bendog
04-24-2007, 02:28 PM
Please God, don't let the idiot from crawford go one on one with the little hitler.

Bronco Bob
04-24-2007, 02:36 PM
Please God, don't let the idiot from crawford go one on one with the little hitler.

Good point. Face to face and he'd realize what an idiot Bush is and we might
be in even worse shape in trying to deal with Iran.

The old joke goes Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul.
Putin looked into Bush's eyes and saw the back of his head.

Dudeskey
04-24-2007, 02:43 PM
Putin looked into Bush's eyes and saw the back of his head.

Maybe Ahmadinejad had ulterior motives... He wanted to see if it was true ;)

defenseman
04-24-2007, 02:57 PM
I have $20 that says curious George will decline his offer...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/851755.html

With iran working towards if not already tossing inspectors out of iran without access to the necessary areas with respect to nuclear materials production, enabling themselves to be monitored, they deserve not a word..dman

defenseman
04-24-2007, 02:58 PM
Please God, don't let the idiot from crawford go one on one with the little hitler.

Don't worry it won't happen anytime soon. Iran is being "stupid" with the nuclear inspectors, they won't get the time of day from us..dman

TailgateNut
04-24-2007, 05:28 PM
With iran working towards if not already tossing inspectors out of iran without access to the necessary areas with respect to nuclear materials production, enabling themselves to be monitored, they deserve not a word..dman

Diplomacy and talks always work better after the "enemy" has been marinated by a few cluster bombs.
Hey Dman, does Cheney have his hand pulling your strings also?

Garcia Bronco
04-24-2007, 06:19 PM
I wouldn't talk with them either.

mhgaffney
04-24-2007, 08:43 PM
With iran working towards if not already tossing inspectors out of iran without access to the necessary areas with respect to nuclear materials production, enabling themselves to be monitored, they deserve not a word..dman

Tell the truth. The fact is that Iran has admitted IAEA inspectors to every nuclear site inside Iran to which the IAEA has sought access. When did the US or Israel EVER admit international inspectors? Try: Never.

OOps, I'm wrong. There was a period during the 1960s when Israel did admit inspectors.It happened because JFK pressured Israeli PM David Ben Gurion. Kennedy was the only US president in living memory serious about halting the spread of nukes worldwide.

As a result of this pressure by Kennedy, ben Gurion relented and allowed US inspectors into the Dimona nuclear facility, located in the Negev desert. As we now know, Israel deceived the US inspectors -- and showed them a dummy control room. When in fact the reactor was geared up to maximize plutonium production.

Nor did the US inspectors ever see the plutonium separation plant, buried 80 feet down. In fact, we only know about its existence today thanks to Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who risked his life to warn the world.

Don't believe me? Check out this short video, based on Vanunu's testimony, which aired on Israeli television some years ago. I hope it's still posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf39qkvwOhU

Next time, d man, do some homework BEFORE you open your big stupid mouth.
MHG

colosilverado
04-24-2007, 08:47 PM
Tell the truth. The fact is that Iran has admitted IAEA inspectors to every nuclear site inside Iran to which the IAEA has sought access. When did the US or Israel EVER admit international inspectors? Try: Never.

OOps, I'm wrong. There was a period during the 1960s when Israel did admit inspectors.It happened because JFK pressured Israeli PM David Ben Gurion. Kennedy was the only US president in living memory serious about halting the spread of nukes worldwide.

As a result of this pressure by Kennedy, ben Gurion relented and allowed US inspectors into the Dimona nuclear facility, located in the Negev desert. As we now know, Israel deceived the US inspectors -- and showed them a dummy control room. When in fact the reactor was geared up to maximize plutonium production.

Nor did the US inspectors ever see the plutonium separation plant, buried 80 feet down. In fact, we only know about its existence today thanks to Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who risked his life to warn the world.

Don't believe me? Check out this short video, based on Vanunu's testimony, which aired on Israeli television some years ago. I hope it's still posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf39qkvwOhU

Next time, d man, do some homework BEFORE you open your big stupid mouth.
MHG


Hey Gaff, why aren't there inspectors over there right now? I don't think the Israelis are going to nuke us, so I don't see too much need to monitor them. They are pretty secure, I am sure. So, what is it that you're yapping about again?

epicSocialism4tw
04-24-2007, 09:10 PM
Why would we hold talks with them?

They have made it known that the only diplomacy they are concerned with is whatever they can get worked out through propaganda like this "offer".

Stormontheplains
04-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Diplomacy and talks always work better after the "enemy" has been marinated by a few cluster bombs.
Hey Dman, does Cheney have his hand pulling your strings also?

Tailgate Nutsucker, the only strings being pulled are by hillary on your tampon. Please show respect to the men who serve or have served our country.

Bronco_Beerslug
04-25-2007, 08:52 AM
Why would we hold talks with them?

They have made it known that the only diplomacy they are concerned with is whatever they can get worked out through propaganda like this "offer".Good point! Why talk with anyone when you have an opportunity to invade and occupy them?

defenseman
04-25-2007, 08:58 AM
Tell the truth. The fact is that Iran has admitted IAEA inspectors to every nuclear site inside Iran to which the IAEA has sought access. When did the US or Israel EVER admit international inspectors? Try: Never.

OOps, I'm wrong. There was a period during the 1960s when Israel did admit inspectors.It happened because JFK pressured Israeli PM David Ben Gurion. Kennedy was the only US president in living memory serious about halting the spread of nukes worldwide.

As a result of this pressure by Kennedy, ben Gurion relented and allowed US inspectors into the Dimona nuclear facility, located in the Negev desert. As we now know, Israel deceived the US inspectors -- and showed them a dummy control room. When in fact the reactor was geared up to maximize plutonium production.

Nor did the US inspectors ever see the plutonium separation plant, buried 80 feet down. In fact, we only know about its existence today thanks to Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who risked his life to warn the world.

Don't believe me? Check out this short video, based on Vanunu's testimony, which aired on Israeli television some years ago. I hope it's still posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf39qkvwOhU

Next time, d man, do some homework BEFORE you open your big stupid mouth.
MHG

You need to get a clue. Like your info is correct? C'mon, and we bombed our own towers, sure pal. Save it for someone who cares ...dman

colosilverado
04-25-2007, 09:19 AM
Good point! Why talk with anyone when you have an opportunity to invade and occupy them?

Because time is of the essence here and Iran has already been told what to do. This is just Iran playing a game. "We tried to talk to them but they wouldn't talk" and in the meantime, they keep doing their thing.

Bronco_Beerslug
04-25-2007, 09:22 AM
Because time is of the essence here and Iran has already been told what to do. This is just Iran playing a game. "We tried to talk to them but they wouldn't talk" and in the meantime, they keep doing their thing.Kinda like NK, huh?

Crushaholic
04-25-2007, 01:37 PM
If he truly wants to talk with Bush, he could do it in private. His goal is to have the "negotiations" out in open and let the media and the Democrats put pressure on Bush to act on something which may or may not be in the best interest of the United States. Pass on this kind of talks...

TailgateNut
04-25-2007, 02:58 PM
Tailgate Nutsucker, the only strings being pulled are by hillary on your tampon. Please show respect to the men who serve or have served our country.

WTF are you talking about?

Please check you PM, $^*&()%#@

Crushaholic
04-25-2007, 05:36 PM
Tailgate Nutsucker, the only strings being pulled are by hillary on your tampon. Please show respect to the men who serve or have served our country.

This kind of namecalling isn't necessary...

BroncoInferno
04-25-2007, 05:58 PM
Can dman or any of the other naysayers please explain how merely talking to Iran is a bad idea? Simply communicating does not guarantee them anything of substance. "NO, we aren't going to talk to you" is an infinitely childish way to operate your foreign policy.

epicSocialism4tw
04-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Can dman or any of the other naysayers please explain how merely talking to Iran is a bad idea? Simply communicating does not guarantee them anything of substance. "NO, we aren't going to talk to you" is an infinitely childish way to operate your foreign policy.

They communicate through the UN.

You can see right through this little act.

This Iranian midget-hitler if nothing else, is good at posing in front of the middle east and manipulating Americans through their own media.

If midget-hitler wants to talk, he needs to show up with some cash and some good will...just like everybody else does.

BroncoInferno
04-25-2007, 07:53 PM
They communicate through the UN.

You can see right through this little act.

This Iranian midget-hitler if nothing else, is good at posing in front of the middle east and manipulating Americans through their own media.

If midget-hitler wants to talk, he needs to show up with some cash and some good will...just like everybody else does.

See, this is just plain childish nonsense. Merely talking to Iran is not bending over to them in any sense. If they bring nothing of substance to the talks, so be it, nothing at all is lost. Talking to them does not promise them anything of substance. The silent treatment, on the other hand, has no chance of solving anything. The Bush administration is running our foreign policy like a two year old.

Bronco_Beerslug
04-25-2007, 08:15 PM
They communicate through the UN.
You can see right through this little act.
This Iranian midget-hitler if nothing else, is good at posing in front of the middle east and manipulating Americans through their own media.
If midget-hitler wants to talk, he needs to show up with some cash and some good will...just like everybody else does.
Hilarious!

gunns
04-25-2007, 09:00 PM
Tailgate Nutsucker, the only strings being pulled are by hillary on your tampon. Please show respect to the men who serve or have served our country.

Is that you Karl?