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ZONA
04-19-2007, 05:09 PM
It's funny how things have turned out for some of the top rated WEST teams to start things off. The Mavs get to play the Warriors, who match up very well and actually could make this a long seriers for Dallas. I think Dallas will win but it won't be easy. The Spurs also face the teams that I think matches up the best with them in Denver. Again, I could see this one going 7. The Suns, now with Amare this year, I think will handle Kobe and company pretty easily, it's done in 4 games. Houston and Utah, I don't know who is the favorite but they will probably go all 7.

NFLBRONCO
04-19-2007, 05:15 PM
Spurs vs Nuggets is not a good matchup. Refs will kiss Duncans a** and the Nuggets will only win 1 game. I hope the Nuggs do pull this off but, it isn't likely.

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 05:31 PM
You're delusional.

GonzoLays
04-19-2007, 05:35 PM
In other news, GREG ODEN HERE WE COME!!!!! WHOOO!!!!

Nuggets4
04-19-2007, 05:40 PM
Dallas wins in 5. I think there will be a close game or two, but not enough to scare the Mavs. I'm more interested in the off-the-court drama.

Suns roll over the Lakers. They're limping into the playoffs. Kobe could score 90 a game and Phoenix should still win. That said, fun series to watch.

Spurs should win in 6. Nugs have the talent to win two, I just hope they do.

Houston should beat Utah. Utah's limping in, T-Mac is determined and Yao is playing some great ball right now.

All that said, every one of those series should be fun to watch. They just won't go 7.

enjolras
04-19-2007, 05:42 PM
It really depends on Nene.. if he can prove to be a credible offensive threat he could really give the Spurs trouble. Since Bowen is going to be out on Anthony, Nene could help to collapse the defense and open things up for AI or Kleiza. He may even be able to force Duncan into foul trouble.

He's been playing great for the last 10 games or so... hopefully he'll keep it up.

ZONA
04-19-2007, 06:24 PM
You're delusional.


......and you're scared. You just won't admit it.

Triplelefthook
04-19-2007, 06:31 PM
It really depends on Nene.. if he can prove to be a credible offensive threat he could really give the Spurs trouble. Since Bowen is going to be out on Anthony, Nene could help to collapse the defense and open things up for AI or Kleiza. He may even be able to force Duncan into foul trouble.

He's been playing great for the last 10 games or so... hopefully he'll keep it up.


IMO Nene is the X-Factor on both sides of the ball

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 06:49 PM
......and you're scared. You just won't admit it.

Shakin' in my tennies, there bub.

The Golden State Warriors scare the crap out of me. ::)

This is the same team (but better) that beat San Antonio on their own floor in game 7 last season. They arent afraid of jack, son. You can roll whoever you want out there.

brother love
04-19-2007, 06:55 PM
I think the Mavs will win ,but it will be a tough series it'll go 6.
The Spurs will win in 5 over Denver.
Houston will beat Utah in 6
The Suns will beat the Lakers in 7.- This is going to be a better series than people think.

Hotrod
04-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Im thinking Dallas only wins 1 in this first round.

You all laugh but Dullas aint making it out of this round

Los Broncos
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Dallas should handle GS, they play pretty good d.

Los Broncos
04-19-2007, 07:04 PM
Dallas v Detroit in the finals, mark it down.

worm
04-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Suns were supposed to roll last year over the Lake Show. Didn't quite happen that way.

Suns will win....but not in 4.

BroncoBuff
04-19-2007, 10:27 PM
It really depends on Nene.. if he can prove to be a credible offensive threat he could really give the Spurs trouble. Since Bowen is going to be out on Anthony, Nene could help to collapse the defense and open things up for AI or Kleiza. He may even be able to force Duncan into foul trouble.

Excellent analysis ... and I agree with you Triple, Nene is the wild card. He has improved each and every week this season. If his game takes a decent-sized jump in this series, Nuggets can definitely win.

AI always raises his game in the playoffs too ...

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 10:30 PM
H-0town winning it all this year.

T-Mac gets over the playoff hump.

No one can stop Yao.

Its on!

spdirty
04-19-2007, 10:36 PM
If the Nugs take it to 6 or 7, Im happy. Just hope the refs arent a contributing factor in the outcome of the series (unless its in the Nuggets favor).

I hope Ginobli pulls his groin. Cant stand that guy.

ZONA
04-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Suns were supposed to roll last year over the Lake Show. Didn't quite happen that way.

Suns will win....but not in 4.

Um.........maybe the fact that Amare didn't play at ALL last season might have had something to do with that. People always forget that. Oh wait a minute.........that's right, they didn't have Kurt Thomas either in the playoffs. I guess Boris Diaw was our low post threat because Tim Thomas sure isn't a low post player and Marion is more of a slasher too. I definately think the Suns will have a much easier time with the Lakers this year with 2 really good true post players and low post defenders. I was amazed the Suns made it as far as they did last year with the bodies they had.

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:02 PM
IMO Nene is the X-Factor on both sides of the ball

To me, the X-factor for the Nuggets will be the shooting of Steve Blake, JR Smith and Linas Kleiza. The Spurs are going to clog the paint, that's a given. They're going to double Carmelo every time he gets the ball in the post and they'll send extra defenders to cut off Iverson's lanes to the basket. It's going to be up to the aforementioned trio to knock down the open shots they're going to get when the Spurs defense collapses on Iverson & Anthony. If they can do that with some consistency, the Nuggets can make a series of it.

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 11:04 PM
Sorry Nuggets fans, but you are not getting past any team from Texas, especially the Spurs.

You might have had a chance against those pussy ass Mavs, but the Spurs are gonna eat you up.

ZONA
04-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Sorry Nuggets fans, but you are not getting past any team from Texas, especially the Spurs.

You might have had a chance against those p***Y ass Mavs, but the Spurs are gonna eat you up.

I think the one thing the Nuggets have working in their favor is that both Mellow and Iverson can also shoot great. They don't always have to drive to the hole. They both can spot up and take their defenders off the dribble to.

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 11:17 PM
Um.........maybe the fact that Amare didn't play at ALL last season might have had something to do with that. People always forget that. Oh wait a minute.........that's right, they didn't have Kurt Thomas either in the playoffs. I guess Boris Diaw was our low post threat because Tim Thomas sure isn't a low post player and Marion is more of a slasher too. I definately think the Suns will have a much easier time with the Lakers this year with 2 really good true post players and low post defenders. I was amazed the Suns made it as far as they did last year with the bodies they had.

I thought Nash was supposed to be able to raise the work production of every member of the franchise? If that's the case than it doesnt matter if Stoudemire is out there or not, right?

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:19 PM
Sorry Nuggets fans, but you are not getting past any team from Texas, especially the Spurs.

You might have had a chance against those p***Y ass Mavs, but the Spurs are gonna eat you up.

Probably.

Oh yeah, you should probably light a prayer candle in the hopes that T-Mac's chronic back problems don't flare up during the postseason.

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 11:22 PM
Probably.

Oh yeah, you should probably light a prayer candle in the hopes that T-Mac's chronic back problems don't flare up during the postseason.

Prayer candles have been lit all season buddy.

(T-Mac + Back Problems) > (Carmelo + AI)* 10

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:27 PM
Prayer candles have been lit all season buddy.

(T-Mac + Back Problems) > (Carmelo + AI)* 10

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AACG022~Allen-Iverson-with-2001-MVP-Trophy-Photofile-Posters.jpg

Hey T-Mac! You got one of these? :P

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 11:29 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AACG022~Allen-Iverson-with-2001-MVP-Trophy-Photofile-Posters.jpg

Hey T-Mac! You got one of these? :P

Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

Not only that, but they would be guaranteed to go home by at least early May. ;D

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Not only that, but they would be guaranteed to go home by at least early May. ;D

Yeah yeah, not this year.

Championship this year.

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

I'll bet the teammates that Iverson carried to the NBA Finals in 2001 would choose AI.

Now, let's compare that to all of the players T-Mac has helped get out of the first round on any of the three teams he's played for in his career.

All none of them. :yayaya:

Man-Goblin
04-19-2007, 11:36 PM
To me, the X-factor for the Nuggets will be the shooting of Steve Blake, JR Smith and Linas Kleiza. The Spurs are going to clog the paint, that's a given. They're going to double Carmelo every time he gets the ball in the post and they'll send extra defenders to cut off Iverson's lanes to the basket. It's going to be up to the aforementioned trio to knock down the open shots they're going to get when the Spurs defense collapses on Iverson & Anthony. If they can do that with some consistency, the Nuggets can make a series of it.

I don't think Smith sees much, if any, time in the playoffs. Baring major foul trouble, I think Karl wants to use a 7-man rotation.

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:40 PM
I don't think Smith sees much, if any, time in the playoffs. Baring major foul trouble, I think Karl wants to use a 7-man rotation.

I think they're gonna have to use him. Parker & Ginobli are pretty adept at driving to the basket and drawing contact. Well, Ginobli's pretty good at making the officials believe there was contact anyway.

Rock Chalk
04-19-2007, 11:41 PM
I'll bet the teammates that Iverson carried to the NBA Finals in 2001 would choose AI.

Now, let's compare that to all of the players T-Mac has helped get out of the first round on any of the three teams he's played for in his career.

All none of them. :yayaya:

All....let me repeat...ALL of those teams T-Mac was on were paled in comparison to the TEAM AI was on when they got to the finals.

Last year's Rockets hardly counted as T-Mac was out over half the season and they still took the West's best in the Mavs to 7.

DeusExManning
04-19-2007, 11:42 PM
Shakin' in my tennies, there bub.

The Golden State Warriors scare the crap out of me. ::)

This is the same team (but better) that beat San Antonio on their own floor in game 7 last season. They arent afraid of jack, son. You can roll whoever you want out there.

The Warriors have won 5 straight, Nellie knows how to control Dirk, their short lineup will give them problems. This will go seven, I would not be surprised if the Warriors take it, they have played well since their trade. They will be caught looking ahead.

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah yeah, not this year.
Championship this year.

Um...probably not. Maybe next year...or something like that.

epicSocialism4tw
04-19-2007, 11:46 PM
The Warriors have won 5 straight, Nellie knows how to control Dirk, their short lineup will give them problems. This will go seven, I would not be surprised if the Warriors take it, they have played well since their trade. They will be caught looking ahead.

The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Clockwork Orange
04-19-2007, 11:54 PM
All....let me repeat...ALL of those teams T-Mac was on were paled in comparison to the TEAM AI was on when they got to the finals.

OK, let's look at the worldbeaters Iverson played alongside in 2001.

Theo Ratliff, Dikembe Mutombo, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Toni Kukoc, Matt Geiger, Rodney Buford, Vernon Maxwell, Jumaine Jones, Todd MacCulloch, Kevin Ollie, Nazr Mohammed, Roshown McLeod, Raja Bell, Pepe Sanchez and Anthony Miller.

Yeah, that was Murderer's Row alright.

Man-Goblin
04-20-2007, 12:47 AM
I don't really like T-Mac either. I'm not sure what it is but he has always kinda bothered me. Maybe it's because he makes it look so easy out there (when he's healthy) and he almost looks lethargic during the game (right down to that silly, stoner look on his face all the time). I have no doubt he's playing his ass off, but when compared to Iverson, who because of his stature has to play with a reckless abandon, there is just something missing there.

Like Alec, I read the Simmons MVP article on ESPN.com, and I have to say I was really surprised to see what he wrote about T-Mac; to the point that I re-read it to check for sarcasm. I have never viewed him as much a defensive player and always thought he was kind of selfish out there. And sure, if you compare him to Vince Carter he's an angel, but who isn't?

Maybe I'm wrong, a homer, or whatever, but I would take Melo over him anyday (Anthony hasn't even hit his prime yet) and I think it's an absolute joke to even compare T-Mac to Iverson when he was in his prime (when AI's career is over he will be considered one of the top 25 players OAT).

ZONA
04-20-2007, 12:53 AM
I thought Nash was supposed to be able to raise the work production of every member of the franchise? If that's the case than it doesnt matter if Stoudemire is out there or not, right?

Now you're being a retard. He's the reason a team full of guards and small forwards went as far as they did in the first place last year. It's well known by everybody here you hate Nash but don't get all stupid on us now. How well would have Dallas played this year if Dirk missed the whole season and then take away somebody like Dampier for the last part of the season and where are the Mavs then? Take away Duncan and another post player for the Spurs and do they get the West finals? Point Made! This isn't about how good Nash is, it's about how much better the team is suited for a real playoff push with a low post force like Amare.

I hope Dirk goes down during the 1st game of the playoffs and misses the rest of the season and then maybe you might understand what I mean.

ZONA
04-20-2007, 01:01 AM
The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Are you talking about the playoff Mavs that collapsed in the finals?

You're making a huge mental mistake if you think Golden State is gonna just lay down for a team they have rolled many times this season. They are getting on a real hot trend over the past month and they have some guys that can flat out score on anybody. They are fast, athletic and can shoot lights out. Matter of fact, I would rather play LA, Denver, Utah, Houston before Golden State. Damn straight.

maven
04-20-2007, 01:03 AM
Tim Duncan couldn't have picked a better time to whine before the playoffs. Not only the ref was suspended just before the season ended, the Nuggets are completely screwed in the 1st round in regards to officiating. Spurs win easily. And the refs will help the Spurs easily advance.

epicSocialism4tw
04-20-2007, 01:39 AM
Tim Duncan couldn't have picked a better time to whine before the playoffs. Not only the ref was suspended just before the season ended, the Nuggets are completely screwed in the 1st round in regards to officiating. Spurs win easily. And the refs will help the Spurs easily advance.

Palms Up 2007 begins Sunday.

azbroncfan
04-20-2007, 11:20 AM
The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Didn't you say that last year during the finals? I can't wait until the mavs lose just to see how long you dissappear.

rubaiyat
04-21-2007, 12:42 AM
Dallas wins in 5. I think there will be a close game or two, but not enough to scare the Mavs. I'm more interested in the off-the-court drama.

Suns roll over the Lakers. They're limping into the playoffs. Kobe could score 90 a game and Phoenix should still win. That said, fun series to watch.

Spurs should win in 6. Nugs have the talent to win two, I just hope they do.

Houston should beat Utah. Utah's limping in, T-Mac is determined and Yao is playing some great ball right now.

All that said, every one of those series should be fun to watch. They just won't go 7.

No, that's why Nellie has been saving Foyle. We'll give you 20+ million...you beat up Dirk in the parking lot and get tossed.

They'd use Stephen Jackson, but he's actually important.

Or I suppose they could do what Kings fans did to Kobe except replace food poisoning with whatever welcome mat Oakland can provide.

ZONA
04-23-2007, 10:16 AM
The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Well, if those were the REAL Mavericks who rolled out Sunday as you suggested then you are in real trouble my friend. Dallas in 4 games? Just as I said MR. all knowing basketball god, your team does not match up well against Golden State and you could be in some real trouble.

Oh - and I think I predicted the Spurs would be in the same spot as the Mavs right now and that Phoenix would win in 4. I hate being right. :welcome:

GonzoLays
04-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Uhh, so yea, Nowitzski just added to his playoff legend by going 4 for 16 from the floor last night.

Uhh, so yea, the Mavericks are 0-4 against the Warriors this season.

Uhh, so yea, this is hilarious.

Hotrod
04-23-2007, 11:04 AM
Im thinking Dallas only wins 1 in this first round.

You all laugh but Dullas aint making it out of this round

I find this interesting Ha!

ludo21
04-23-2007, 11:11 AM
Im thinking Dallas only wins 1 in this first round.

You all laugh but Dullas aint making it out of this round
btw.. im really gay

yeah, i find that interesting as well....

Hotrod
04-23-2007, 11:14 AM
yeah, i find that interesting as well....

I am rather happy to watch them go down in flames.

ludo21
04-23-2007, 11:17 AM
I am rather happy to watch them go down in flames.
i mean really gay


yeah, should be fun to watch....

Master___Pain
04-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Dallas will win in 4 games.

Oops....

DeusExManning
04-23-2007, 12:56 PM
The Warriors have won 5 straight, Nellie knows how to control Dirk, their short lineup will give them problems. This will go seven, I would not be surprised if the Warriors take it, they have played well since their trade. They will be caught looking ahead.

Yes I did say that, Mavs looked hopeless last night.

Rock Chalk
04-23-2007, 01:15 PM
You're delusional.

Hahahahaha.

Willynowei
04-23-2007, 09:33 PM
I agree with Alec. If Yao and T-mac play like they can, thats pretty scarry, its almost like Kobe and Shaq 3 or 4 years ago. Remember when it was Lakers and Spurs alternating Championships for 10 years?

I think Yao and T-mac can do that, but T-mac has got to stay healthy and Yao needs to be more like the great wall and less like the great marshmellow.

I'm a laker fan so I'm prolly being homerist, but watching them play the Suns, they were screwing up the defensive boards and hustle plays when they had position. Thats fixable, where as the suns having crappy post presence is unfixable.

Lakers have as good a chance of beating the Suns as they did last year. Also, Amare Stoudamire, I really don't like that guy. He's like a football player trying to play basketball, he's in the wrong sport.

ZONA
04-23-2007, 10:24 PM
I agree with Alec. If Yao and T-mac play like they can, thats pretty scarry, its almost like Kobe and Shaq 3 or 4 years ago. Remember when it was Lakers and Spurs alternating Championships for 10 years?

I think Yao and T-mac can do that, but T-mac has got to stay healthy and Yao needs to be more like the great wall and less like the great marshmellow.

I'm a laker fan so I'm prolly being homerist, but watching them play the Suns, they were screwing up the defensive boards and hustle plays when they had position. Thats fixable, where as the suns having crappy post presence is unfixable.

Lakers have as good a chance of beating the Suns as they did last year. Also, Amare Stoudamire, I really don't like that guy. He's like a football player trying to play basketball, he's in the wrong sport.

Yao looks decent now because he's playing a slow pound it inside team. Teams that run like the Suns, Yao is always on the bench after 6 minutes of play because he's too slow and is already winded.

My opinion on the Lakers/Suns game is that the Suns were flat out terrible shooting the ball in the first half. Most of them were wide open looks too. The Suns got what ever looks they wanted but had one of those off nights shooting, and they still beat the Lakers. If the Suns even hit half of those open looks it's not even a game. Kobe ends up having to carry that team too much and you could see his performace in the 4th quater just get sorry because he was shot. I like Kobe, Odom and Walton but the rest of those guys are junk if you ask me. Bottom line is, as Phil Jackson said, the Lakers need to be perfect for 4 quarters to beat the Suns while the Suns can be average on any given night and still beat the Lakers.

Master___Pain
04-30-2007, 12:04 PM
Shakin' in my tennies, there bub.

The Golden State Warriors scare the crap out of me. ::)

This is the same team (but better) that beat San Antonio on their own floor in game 7 last season. They arent afraid of jack, son. You can roll whoever you want out there.

Good call



edit** This thread was moved after being on the main board for a week? You mods are so inconsistent. I'd like a little explanation on why (fully knowing that not a single mod will give a reason) At least there's 15 different threads about "character" on the main board:thumbsup: