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Dedhed
04-11-2007, 01:01 AM
No trade scenarios allowed.

#21-Ted Ginn Jr, WR, OSU- A lot of folks will question and loathe this pick, but Ginn is the perfect complement to Marshall and Walker. Cutler has one of the few arms in the league that will allow Ginn to truly stretch the field, and Ginn will contribute immediately as a return man. We need depth at WR worse than people seem to think, and with the depth at DL in this draft we can afford to wait until round 2. The great thing regarding Ginn is that even if he completely busts as a receiver in the NFL, (something I highly doubt) he can be turned around and played at CB where he has also been successful in his career. He'll always be a weapon as a return man.

#56-Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia-At one point considered a shoe-in first rounder, he's dropped dramatically after a poor senior season. Put in the right system he could return to the dominant form he showed as a junior, he could end up a steal. The Broncos will be using the perfect system next year.

#70-Paul Soliai, DT, Utah- A perfect fit for a Bates scheme. Soliai is massive, but quick off the ball and moves surprisingly well for his size. He's able to fill space, which Bates requires, but he also poses some decent pass-rush moves. I was hoping he would be available in the 4th, but he's rocketing up draft boards and we'll need to use the early 3rd in order to get him.

#86-Marcus Thomas, DT, Florida- Should be a first rounder given his abilities. Character is a concern, but he's worth the risk in the 3rd round. Shanahan is pretty good with players with character concerns, and Gerard Warren could be helpful as a Florida Alum. Never thought you'd hear that did you? Gerard Warren as a guy who could help out with character issues.

#176-Antwan Barnes, LB, FIU- Undersized, but lightning fast. Always around the ball, Barnes is a playmaker who will contribute on STs immediately and compete for a spot in the LB rotation.

#233-Justice Hairston, RB, Central Conn- Small school sleeper prospect who flashes legitimate NFL talent.

SureShot
04-11-2007, 01:07 AM
Please no first round WRs or undersized LBs. Thats all I ask.

chaz
04-11-2007, 01:12 AM
dont like that our d-line success is basically left to thugs...they can have all the talent in the world, but if they mess up goodell will knock them on their asses. dont mind the ginn pick actually as i have the same thoughts about his as you do.

Tombstone RJ
04-11-2007, 01:18 AM
No trade scenarios allowed.

#21-Ted Ginn Jr, WR, OSU- A lot of folks will question and loathe this pick, but Ginn is the perfect complement to Marshall and Walker. Cutler has one of the few arms in the league that will allow Ginn to truly stretch the field, and Ginn will contribute immediately as a return man. We need depth at WR worse than people seem to think, and with the depth at DL in this draft we can afford to wait until round 2. The great thing regarding Ginn is that even if he completely busts as a receiver in the NFL, (something I highly doubt) he can be turned around and played at CB where he has also been successful in his career. He'll always be a weapon as a return man.

#56-Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia-At one point considered a shoe-in first rounder, he's dropped dramatically after a poor senior season. Put in the right system he could return to the dominant form he showed as a junior, he could end up a steal. The Broncos will be using the perfect system next year.

#70-Paul Soliai, DT, Utah- A perfect fit for a Bates scheme. Soliai is massive, but quick off the ball and moves surprisingly well for his size. He's able to fill space, which Bates requires, but he also poses some decent pass-rush moves. I was hoping he would be available in the 4th, but he's rocketing up draft boards and we'll need to use the early 3rd in order to get him.

#86-Marcus Thomas, DT, Florida- Should be a first rounder given his abilities. Character is a concern, but he's worth the risk in the 3rd round. Shanahan is pretty good with players with character concerns, and Gerard Warren could be helpful as a Florida Alum. Never thought you'd hear that did you? Gerard Warren as a guy who could help out with character issues.

#176-Antwan Barnes, LB, FIU- Undersized, but lightning fast. Always around the ball, Barnes is a playmaker who will contribute on STs immediately and compete for a spot in the LB rotation.

#233-Justice Hairston, RB, Central Conn- Small school sleeper prospect who flashes legitimate NFL talent.

I like it. Heavy on the defensive line, and if Ginn is there at 21, why the hell not take him?

The late rounds are for special teams anyway and Barnes and Hairston can help there. The Broncos STs are still sub standard.

Dedhed
04-11-2007, 01:23 AM
dont like that our d-line success is basically left to thugs...they can have all the talent in the world, but if they mess up goodell will knock them on their asses. dont mind the ginn pick actually as i have the same thoughts about his as you do.

Thomas is the only ?, but I think the hard line that Goodell has drawn may help a player like Thomas. Moses is a high character guy.

phibacka31
04-11-2007, 01:38 AM
Not bad Dehead. Im iffy on Ginn, but I like the Solai and THomas picks. Also love the last two picks. Overall an alright draft

ICON
04-11-2007, 01:43 AM
love gin

watermock
04-11-2007, 08:51 AM
I'll go Garcia if we take Ginn.

Elway777
04-11-2007, 09:40 AM
That a pretty good draft for the Broncos. I think Lamarr Woodley could fall to the Broncos in the second round. I would prefer Woodley over Mosses . I also think about trading up for Charle Johnson in the second round.

Steve Prefontaine
04-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Don't the Broncos have 2 picks in the sixth round after the Wilkinson trade was void?<o:p></o:p>
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You make a good argument for Ginn, but I think I would rather take <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Griffin</st1:place></st1:City> or Spencer in the first. If your other picks worked out, I would probably be ok with taking Ginn @ 21. <o:p></o:p>
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Good mock overall Ded.<o:p></o:p>

U GOT JACKED UP
04-11-2007, 10:50 AM
I love the draft. Ginn should be a playmaker and its heavy on the DLine

Dedhed
04-11-2007, 11:07 AM
That a pretty good draft for the Broncos. I think Lamarr Woodley could fall to the Broncos in the second round. I would prefer Woodley over Mosses . I also think about trading up for Charle Johnson in the second round.
I like Moses over Woodley because he's got good height and has the frame to get bigger. With Elvis on one end, I don't like the idea of another end as undersized as Woodley who is just over 6'.

Dedhed
04-11-2007, 11:10 AM
Don't the Broncos have 2 picks in the sixth round after the Wilkinson trade was void?<o:p></o:p>
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You make a good argument for Ginn, but I think I would rather take <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Griffin</st1:place></st1:City> or Spencer in the first. If your other picks worked out, I would probably be ok with taking Ginn @ 21. <o:p></o:p>
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Good mock overall Ded.<o:p></o:p>

I think you might be right about that. I was looking for our original 6th on the draft order that I used and didn't see it, but it probably wasn't there b/c of the Wilkinson scenario.

ColoradoBuff
04-11-2007, 11:15 AM
Good job bud......I could live with this draft. Can't wait till the draft!!!!

Dedhed
04-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Good job bud......I could live with this draft. Can't wait till the draft!!!!

Thanks Hawks, I'm counting the days too.

Requiem
04-11-2007, 11:38 AM
I really like this, but Barnes is a late-fourth round pick at the worst. Wish there was a S or a OT somewhere in there, but that's a very nice draft.

yerner
04-11-2007, 03:10 PM
i like it

elsid13
04-11-2007, 04:36 PM
Nice draft, a WR in the 1st has strong chance to happen. But I'm getting the feeling that Denver will go maybe 1 d-line guy in the draft only. No reason why but just a feeling.

Needa Pass Rush
04-11-2007, 05:09 PM
Ginn would immediatley upgrade the return game and be Cutler's streak man. I think he would be a rock solid pick for the Broncos.

That One Guy
04-11-2007, 05:44 PM
If we take Ginn, we basically say "well we knew Hixon was hurt when we drafted him but since he didn't do us any good in his first year, screw him." We need to see what Hixon can do before we draft the same player all over again.

Billy Clyde Puckett
04-11-2007, 06:04 PM
Thomas is a fatter version of Clarett and will last about the same amount of time in the NFL

bpc
04-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Tough to say about Thomas. The guy has an amazing ability to penetrate in the backfield. I don't know if he is big enough for Bates' system. Character is a question but I really think we are going to see a domino effect from the commisioners stance on illegal activity.

I like the talent of Moses and him coming in as a 2nd or 3rd rounder as some have suggested. I think he is flying under the radar because he didn't have very good coaching in college. Some people will tear me for that because UGA has been a factory for defensive linemen but I just don't see any technique with this guy. Lucky for us that technique can be taught. He might be a two year developemental guy but definitely worth it.

Ginn is a guy that i'm really high on. He'll be another guy that can come into Denver, there will be no pressure on him to perform because of the depth we have at WR and will be able to learn and grow like he did at OSU. As long as his pro day checks out with his leg which i'm leary of, its a great light.

Soliai is a guy that fits the system but I think many people are jumping onto this system thing to quick. We aren't going to reach for players just because he is the next best fat guy. We would be wise to pick up a DT in the first three rounds and I would be open to two of them. We do need to look at Safety, some point in this draft. I'm tired of seeing Ferguson leave plays on the field that our CB's are handing to him. We need somebody with instincts and the ability to make opposing offenses pay for throwing away from Champ.

I really hope that we come down with Reggie Nelson first... that would be huge.

In round 2 we could focus on BPA on the defensive line. I would be looking at guys like Brandon Mebane, Tank Tyler, Jason Hill, or Craig David.

Round 3a we can look at Quinton Moses who's stock has fell, Victor Abiamiri, or Ikaika Alama Francis.

Round 3b is pigeon holed for one guy who could really flat out excel on the next level with coaching and also fill in for Al Wilson when he departs...

Quincy Black, OLB from New Mexico. The guy has it all... great in coverage, physical and can play sideline to sideline. He could be a SAM, MIKE or a WILL on the NFL level... hell, he could possibly drop some weight and play Safety like Thomas Davis did from UGA a few years ago. The kid is going to be a very good player.

My mock would look like:

1. Reggie Nelson - S
2. Brandon Mebane/Tank Tyler - DT - whomever is sitting there at our pick:
3a. Quinton Moses - DE
3b. Quincy Black - LB

I want weapons on offense as bad as anybody. This would be the most prudent approach to our needs though combined with guys that will impact this team.

One thing of note, I do want a WR badly however the depth is there to go fishing later. Players like Chansi Stuckey, Audrey Allison, Johnie Lee Higgins, Yamon Figurs, and Brandon Myles all figure to slide and we should have an opportunity to pick up a good OL, WR prospect later on.

U GOT JACKED UP
04-11-2007, 07:19 PM
My ideal first rounder would be to trade up and get jamaal anderson.

Mediator12
04-11-2007, 08:37 PM
Actually, Thomas, Tarrell Brown, and Merriweather are probably going to disappear from day one consideration after talking to some people about the character issue. It all depends on what Goodell means by holding teams responsible for players behavior and how it relates to drafting players. If Goodell threatens to take away draft picks from teams that draft players of questionable character, which I have heard is one proposition on the table right now, then teams will have to redo their risk assessment of players with character issues.

U4EA
04-11-2007, 09:45 PM
If we take Ginn, we basically say "well we knew Hixon was hurt when we drafted him but since he didn't do us any good in his first year, screw him." We need to see what Hixon can do before we draft the same player all over again.

I think there might be just the slightest talent upgrade vis-a-vis Ginn over Hixon.

I like the draft except there aren't any SAFTIES in it.

Dedhed
04-11-2007, 10:13 PM
If we take Ginn, we basically say "well we knew Hixon was hurt when we drafted him but since he didn't do us any good in his first year, screw him." We need to see what Hixon can do before we draft the same player all over again.Calling Ginn the same player as Hixon is like calling OSU and Akron the same school.