What Do You All Think Of This Don Imus Situation?

[alkemical]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58469,00.html

Sharpton Calls Drug Tape 'Smear Campaign'

[RhymesayersDU]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070412/ap_en_tv/imus_protests

CBS fires Don Imus from radio show

NEW YORK - CBS fired Don Imus from his radio show Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.

Imus initially was suspended for two weeks for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on the air last week, but outrage continued to grow and advertisers bolted from his programs.

"There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said in announcing the decision. "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision."

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL...here today...gone...today

[defenseman]

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB111521814339424546.html


Will the Wall Street Journal do? Or is that too subversive a source?

that will work, and the source works for the most part. Interesting...dman

*The embellishment/canonizing of the "rapper" lifestyle, I believe anyway is part of the draw to this type of music. Plenty of guns, dope and HO's, if you know what I mean. Not advertised is the downside of such a lifestyle. Very sad, very sad indeed. In any case, thanks for the numbers, it is what it is. All one can do is ensure those within one's reach is informed on the "true" nature of this sort of lifestyle, and the disparaging manner in which some of it's music is presented let alone, the nasty and distasteful lyrics of which one should find offensive in today's society. Again, it is what it is..dman

[defenseman]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070412/ap_en_tv/imus_protests

who's next? ......dman

*Time to call JJ and Rev Al sharp as a round stone on the pulpit for their misgivings in the lacrosse players attempted railroading. they both would have really enjoyed "whitey" going down hard now wouldn't they. But they look out for all people, now don't they.....that's what big al said last night......dman

[broncocalijohn]

LOL...here today...gone...today

Do you mean 35 years of radio show as here today?

[defenseman]

When it comes to music white kids will always listen to what is hip. It happened in Jazz era, happened back when whites flocked to hear guys like Ray Charles. White parents hated it as much then as they do now. But for sure anyone who argues whites aren't listening to rap are crazy. I just think that rap music is really telling you how violent the gang culture is. The gang culture started way before the rap music came. The rap music gave gangsters a way to make it big however because you don't have to be that talented. That brought them money and influence and it has just grown out of control from there. Problem is I can't be for censorship of any kind. You can say what you want on a record even if it is kill whitey.

A handful, just a small handful, have some talent. that should not be denied. Most are just gangsta's and thugs looking to make a quick buck selling their own form of garbage. And you wonder where Pacman gets it. Look no further than todays Rap music heroes. Freaking malcontents..dman

[footstepsfrom#27]

I wonder what percentage of black people would proudly say that Jackson and Sharpton represent their best interest and speak on issues how they would speak if they had the public forum. My guess, less than 50%.
I know a lot of black people. I know none who consider Sharpton/Jackson as spokesmen for black America. I know a number who are embarrased by these clowns and resent them. Fifty percent? I'd bet it's closer to 10-15%.

[REB]

Well and there we have it folks. I hope the holier than thou PC crowd is happy to have ruined a 35 year career over a bad joke. I'm sure they are. Pretty soon we will all have to be afraid of anything we say for fear of being lynched. Enjoy.

[Tredici]

Until some black leader like Obama comes out and says that Sharpton and Jackson should be disregarded as they don't speak for blacks, but rather for their own interests. Then maybe things will change and we can get some real black leaders for the black community. I think they probably already have them but they don't have all the money and power Jackson and Sharpton have. Plus the media helps Jackson and Sharpton stay powerfull by constantly showing their point of view to white and black viewers everytime there is a race issue.

Who are the white leaders in your community that tell you how to think?

[spdirty]

A bunch of ****in bull****. Fire him because his damn ratings suck. You don't fire a radio legend because 2 ****in shakedown artists say you should. But, what would you expect from a bunch of shriveled up maggots?

Ive never listened to him and I probably never will, but I sure as hell hope Imus gets on with satelite radio and makes a ****in killing. Its absolute bull**** how the guy got railroaded.

[cutthemdown]

I bet IMUS pops up on Sirius before you can say Howard Stern.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

A handful, just a small handful, have some talent. that should not be denied. Most are just gangsta's and thugs looking to make a quick buck selling their own form of garbage. And you wonder where Pacman gets it. Look no further than todays Rap music heroes. Freaking malcontents..dman
And just how would you know what percentage "have some talent" since you don't listen to it and don't allow any family members to?

[footstepsfrom#27]

Until some black leader like Obama comes out and says that Sharpton and Jackson should be disregarded as they don't speak for blacks, but rather for their own interests. Then maybe things will change and we can get some real black leaders for the black community.
There are thousands of such leaders in the black community. You don't think the white controlled media has any real interest in them do you? Ratings follow controversy.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

A bunch of ****in bull****. Fire him because his damn ratings suck. You don't fire a radio legend because 2 ****in shakedown artists say you should. But, what would you expect from a bunch of shriveled up maggots?

Ive never listened to him and I probably never will, but I sure as hell hope Imus gets on with satelite radio and makes a ****in killing. Its absolute bull**** how the guy got railroaded.

They are firing him because the sponsors pulled their money. It's all about money, nothing else.

[Garcia Bronco]

They are firing him because the sponsors pulled their money. It's all about money, nothing else.

agreed

[Tredici]

CBS fires Don Imus from radio show

NEW YORK - CBS fired Don Imus from his radio show Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.

Imus initially was suspended for two weeks for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on the air last week, but outrage continued to grow and advertisers bolted from his programs.

"There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said in announcing the decision. "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision."

I guess he didn't want to tell the truth -- we could've cared less but Proctor and Gamble was pulling out as a sponsor and as money hos we had to cut him loose.

There is free speech folks. But there isn't corporate sponsored free speech....

[cutthemdown]

Well and there we have it folks. I hope the holier than thou PC crowd is happy to have ruined a 35 year career over a bad joke. I'm sure they are. Pretty soon we will all have to be afraid of anything we say for fear of being lynched. Enjoy.

Well you can be sure people will be listening for anything worst then what IMUS said and then pounce on them also. But I bet Sirius just takes them all in.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Well and there we have it folks. I hope the holier than thou PC crowd is happy to have ruined a 35 year career over a bad joke. I'm sure they are. Pretty soon we will all have to be afraid of anything we say for fear of being lynched. Enjoy.
Is that all it that was? I must have missed the punch line?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

"Imus was broadcasting his 18th annual radio charity fundraiser, which has pulled in $50 million since 1990. It ends Friday."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html

[cutthemdown]

There are thousands of such leaders in the black community. You don't think the white controlled media has any real interest in them do you? Ratings follow controversy.

If you read my whole post you would see that I also blamed the media.


Plus the media helps Jackson and Sharpton stay powerfull by constantly showing their point of view to white and black viewers everytime there is a race issue.

theres the part of my same post you left out of your quote. If you are going to quote me quote the whole thing you little chicken ****.

[Tredici]

"Imus was broadcasting his 18th annual radio charity fundraiser, which has pulled in $50 million since 1990. It ends Friday."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html

So? If you donate to charity you get to call young women at Rutger's Nappy Headed Hos?

Just wondering what the connection is....

[El Minion]

Well and there we have it folks. I hope the holier than thou PC crowd is happy to have ruined a 35 year career over a bad joke. I'm sure they are. Pretty soon we will all have to be afraid of anything we say for fear of being lynched. Enjoy.
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var s_code=s.t();if(s_code)document.write(s_code)//--></script><script language="JavaScript"></script><font size="3"><strong>chatterbox</strong></font><br clear="all"><span class="clsLarger">The Wit and Wisdom of Don Imus</span><br><span class="clsSmall"><font color="gray">A guide for Washington's power crowd.</font></span><br>By Timothy Noah<br><span class="clsSmaller"><font color="#CC0000">Posted <font color="#CC0000">Tuesday, April 10, 2007, at 6:59 PM ET</font></font></span><br clear="all"><!--After Date--><br clear="all"><p>Don Imus' long-standing acceptance by the political establishment is a contemporary illustration of 1940s socialite <a target="_blank" href="http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19490314,00.html">Perle Mesta</a>'s famous advice about how to draw Washington's power set to a soiree: "Hang a lamb chop in the window." Politicians like John McCain and Barack Obama, and famous TV journalists like Tim Russert and Cokie Roberts, are no more standoffish than their predecessors; the only difference is that the lamb chop has been replaced by a microphone. For some years now, the broadcast industry has conducted, via talk radio and reality TV, a series of experiments to gauge precisely how much personal humiliation the species Homo sapiens will consent to endure. <a name="return">The most </a>surprising finding is that <em>even people with constant access to the media</em> will make themselves available to interviewer-comedians like Sacha "Ali G." Baron Cohen or Stephen Colbert<a target="_blank" href="#correct">*</a>—performers whose <em>sole aim</em> is to get laughs at these celebrities' expense. If there's an outer boundary to what a famous journalist or politician will put up with, science has yet to find it.</p><p>In the direct-humiliation department, Imus falls well short of Colbert or Ali G. <em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036713/">Imus in the Morning</a></em> is a variation on the experiment, wherein the belittling is indirect. Here, the research question is how long respectable journalists and politicians will associate themselves with a radio host who spews continual invective based on race, ethnicity, and religion. Without exception, <em>every</em> political and journalistic celebrity who appears on Imus' show is diminished. Yet they keep coming back. Is it because they don't <em>know</em> what Imus says when they aren't around? That's what they tend to claim. "I don't listen to the show," McCain <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3254.html">told journalist Philip Nobile</a> in June 2000. In an April 9 appearance, Tom Oliphant <a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200704090007">told Imus</a>, "Solidarity forever," but later covered his ass by saying, "I don't know beans about hip-hop culture or trash-talking or, what do you call those things where you run on forever? Riffs." One person who can't claim ignorance about Imus is Evan Thomas, who on April 9 <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/business/media/09carr.html?bl&amp;ex=1176264000&amp;en=b61791db8cd3b6cc&amp;e i=5087%0A">told</a> the <em>New York Times</em>' David Carr that it would be "posturing" for him to refuse to go on Imus' show after Imus got dinged for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "<a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200704040011?f=i_related">nappy-headed hos</a>." Thomas puffed Imus in a 1999 <em>Newsweek</em> cover profile ("The Ringmaster"). "With his quick takes and sense of the absurd," he wrote, "Imus is the perfect voice for an age that prizes irony over solemnity." The <em>Newsweek</em> piece made only glancing reference to Imus' penchant for uttering racial and ethnic slurs on the air, overlooking, for instance, the shock jock's admission the previous year on CBS News' <em>60 Minutes</em> that he'd <a target="_blank" href="http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/transcripts/transcripts_081801_imus.html">once told a colleague</a> he hired producer Bernard McGuirk to tell "****er" jokes. ("That was an off-the-record conversation," Imus protested to Mike Wallace.) </p><p>In the unlikely event that McCain, Oliphant, and others don't know who they're dealing with, let's review some of Imus' remarks (if you prefer, <em>riffs</em>) from the past. This stuff isn't hard to find. Many thanks to the Web sites <a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/shows/imusinthemorning">Media Matters for America</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1751">Fairness &amp; Accuracy in Reporting</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3073.html">TomPaine.com</a> (where Nobile tracked Imus' show) for the quotes that appear below.</p><p><strong>On blacks:</strong><strong> </strong></p><blockquote><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/2992.html">William Cohen, the <em>Mandingo</em> deal</a>." (Former Defense Secretary Cohen's wife is African-American.)</p><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3067.html">Wasn't in a woodpile</a>, was he?" (Responding to news that former black militant H. Rap Brown, subsequently known as Abdullah Al-Amin, was found hiding in <a target="_blank" href="http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/03/21/brown.custody.02/">a shed in Alabama</a> after exchanging gunfire with police. Imus is here alluding to the expression "<a target="_blank" href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=****er+in+the+Woodpile&amp;defid=10282 91">****er in the woodpile</a>.")</p><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3079.html">Knuckle-dragging moron</a>." (Description of basketball player Patrick Ewing.)</p><p>"We all have <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3478.html">12-inch penises</a>." (After being asked what he has in common with Nat Turner, Malcolm X, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Latrell Sprewell from the New York Knicks, and Al Sharpton.)</p><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082">Chest-thumping pimps</a>." (Description of the New York Knicks.)</p><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082">A cleaning lady</a>." (Reference to journalist Gwen Ifill, possibly out of pique that <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10ifill.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin">she wouldn't appear on his show</a>. "I certainly don't know any black journalists who will," she <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10ifill.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin">wrote</a> in the April 10 <em>New York Times</em>. The <em>Chicago Tribune</em>'s Clarence Page used to appear, but after he made Imus pledge not to make offensive comments in the future, he was <a target="_blank" href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/jan-june07/imus_04-09.html">never asked back</a>.)</p></blockquote><p><strong>On Jews:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"I remember when I first had [the Blind Boys of Alabama] on a few years ago, how the Jewish management at whatever, whoever we work for, CBS, or whatever it is, were b****ing at me about it. […] I tried to put it in terms that these <a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200612080006">money-grubbing bastards</a> could understand."</p><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082">Boner-nosed</a> … beanie-wearing Jewboy." (Description of Howard Kurtz of the <em>Washington Post</em>, a frequent guest.)</p></blockquote><p><strong>On women:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"That <a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250001">buck-tooth witch</a> Satan, Hillary Clinton." […] "I never admitted it when I went down there and got in all that big jam, insulting Bill Clinton and his <a target="_blank" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250001">fat ugly wife</a>, Satan. Did I? Did I ever say I was sorry for that?"</p></blockquote><p><strong>On Native Americans:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"The <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/2992.html">guy from <em>F-Troop</em></a>, Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell." (This is a reference to the zany Indian characters on the 1960s TV sitcom <em>F-Troop</em>. They had names like "<a target="_blank" href="http://www.f-troop.net/edwards_page.htm">Roaring Chicken</a>," "<a target="_blank" href="http://www.f-troop.net/dons%20page.htm">Crazy Cat</a>," and "<a target="_blank" href="http://www.f-troop.net/franks_page.htm">Chief Wild Eagle</a>.")</p></blockquote><p><strong>On Japanese:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"<a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/2962.html">Old Kabuki</a>'s in a coma and the market's going up. […] How old is the boy? The battery's running down on that boy." (Reference to Japanese Prime Minister <a target="_blank" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/747915.stm">Keizo Obuchi</a>, who died the following week.)</p></blockquote><p><strong>On gays:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"I didn't know that Allan Bloom was <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3071.html">coming in from the back end</a>." (The homosexuality of the author of <em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/Closing-American-Mind-Allan-Bloom/dp/0671657151/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-6819803-8751945?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1176236243&amp;sr=1-1">The Closing of the American Mind</a></em> became widely known when Saul Bellow published <em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/Ravelstein-Saul-Bellow/dp/B000FUFANC/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/104-6819803-8751945?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1176236154&amp;sr=1-3">Ravelstein</a></em>, a novel whose protagonist was based on Bloom, who by then was deceased.)</p><p>"The enormously attractive [NBC political correspondent] Chip Reid, I can say without being accused of being some <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3079.html">limp-wristed 'mo</a>."</p></blockquote><p><strong>On the handicapped:</strong></p><blockquote><p>"Janet Reno's having a press conference. Ms. Reno, of course, has Parkinson's disease, has a noticeable tremor. […] I don't know how she gets that lipstick on (laughter) <a target="_blank" href="http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/3071.html">looking like a rodeo clown</a>."</p></blockquote><p>Every one of these statements came directly out of Imus' mouth on his program. That's striking because Imus usually leaves it to other show regulars (especially McGuirk, the aforementioned point man on "****er" jokes) to say the most offensive stuff, with Imus feeding them straight lines. It's safer that way.</p><p>*<a name="correct"><em><strong>Correction, </strong></em></a><em><strong>April 11, 2007:</strong> An earlier version of this column misspelled Colbert's first name and referred erroneously to "Sacha Baron 'Ali G.' Cohen," which suggested the comedian's last name was "Cohen." His last name is "Baron Cohen." Click </em><em><a target="_blank" href="#return">here</a> to return to the corrected sentence.</em></p><em>Timothy Noah is a senior writer at <strong>Slate</strong></em>.<br><br><font face="Arial, Helvetica, Geneva" size="2">Article URL: <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2163872/" target="_blank">http://www.slate.com/id/2163872/</a></font><script language="JavaScript1.1" src="/revsci/dm_client.js"></script><script language="JavaScript">rs = PStax; DM_addToLoc("thisNode", rs); DM_tag();</script><noscript><img src="http://pix01.revsci.net/J05531/a3/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/noscript.gif" /></noscript><div style='mso-element:footer;tab-stops:right 3.5in; border:none;border-top:solid windowtext .5pt;padding:1.0pt 0in 0in 0in' id='f2'><!-- Copyright information --><p class='MsoFooter' style='tab-stops:right 7.2in'>Copyright 2007 Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC</p></div></body></html>

[Garcia Bronco]

Is that all it that was? I must have missed the punch line?

that's why it was a bad joke.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

So? If you donate to charity you get to call young women at Rutger's Nappy Headed Hos?

Just wondering what the connection is....

Just saying the guy has done plenty of good in his career. That's going to be missed.

How much money for kids cancer research or any good cause has Sharpton or any of the other detractors raised?

[footstepsfrom#27]

In other news stupidity still lives! BAAAAHAAA!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265422,00.html

DJ Fired for Encouraging Listeners to Repeat Don Imus' Remarks

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

ALLENTOWN, Pa. — A radio station fired its longtime morning DJ Wednesday after he encouraged listeners to repeat talk-show host Don Imus' racially charged comments in an on-air contest.

Gary Smith told WSBG-FM listeners to call and say "I'm a nappy-headed ho" for Tuesday's "Phrase that Pays" contest, said Rick Musselman, executive vice president of station owner Nassau Broadcasting Partners L.P.

Musselman said three of the listeners who called were awarded tickets to a NASCAR promotion at a local club.

Station management reviewed a tape of the broadcast of the "Gary in the Morning" show and fired Smith, Musselman said.

Musselman said that Smith was fired and not suspended because he uttered the slur in a premeditated manner, "with full knowledge of the reaction to Don Imus' use of the exact same phrase."

The nationally syndicated Imus was suspended for two weeks by CBS Radio and MSNBC after he called members of the mostly black Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos." Civil rights groups have demanded his firing.

WSBG 93.5, a 3,000-watt rock station, is based in Stroudsburg, about 40 miles northeast of Allentown. The Princeton, N.J.-based Nassau is privately held with more than 50 radio stations in the Northeast.

[Garcia Bronco]

Apparently Whitlock just went on MSNBC and called Sharpton and Jackson terrorists and said CBS should negotiate with them...LMAO

[Spider]

Until some black leader like Obama comes out and says that Sharpton and Jackson should be disregarded as they don't speak for blacks, but rather for their own interests. Then maybe things will change and we can get some real black leaders for the black community. I think they probably already have them but they don't have all the money and power Jackson and Sharpton have. Plus the media helps Jackson and Sharpton stay powerfull by constantly showing their point of view to white and black viewers everytime there is a race issue.

if Obama did that , I probably could forgive the cocaine usage ......or at least root for the guy to win

[TDmvp]

it sucks to be white ... now you have to fear someone might take something the wrong way and try to hurt you for your color ... i think they might call that racist ... the only reason this is a big deal is cuz imus is white ...
black people can call other black people anything they like and they can say anything about a white person and they are not at fault ... sorry ... thats racist ...

[Circle Orange]

I wonder what percentage of black people would proudly say that Jackson and Sharpton represent their best interest and speak on issues how they would speak if they had the public forum. My guess, less than 50%.

For blacks locked into "1968" probably 80%

Every other black person nil.

They don't represent anything except their own interests. No one or two people speak for a large group living across the country. This was the mistake assassins made in the 60s thinking that if they 'killed the head the snake would die" as if all blacks were led by the nose in lockstep with a small group, and once they were eliminated blacks would disappear.

Crap. Let me git my magnum. I'm going for a walk... http://scosoft.com/s/d/ebad21f.gif

[Maximus]

A bunch of ****in bull****. Fire him because his damn ratings suck. You don't fire a radio legend because 2 ****in shakedown artists say you should. But, what would you expect from a bunch of shriveled up maggots?

Ive never listened to him and I probably never will, but I sure as hell hope Imus gets on with satelite radio and makes a ****in killing. Its absolute bull**** how the guy got railroaded.

It's too bad that the media has soo much control over minds in this country. It is sad when a person considers a bigot like Imus a legend. Second the fat baffoon and the wannabe poet do not deserve the credit for bringing this into focus. The National Association of Black Journalists started and finished it.

It's shameful for you to even want a bigot to have the opportunity to continue to spew his negative venom on national airwaves. Imus did this many times without severe punishment. He apologised before and here he is again.

[Maximus]

Apparently Whitlock just went on MSNBC and called Sharpton and Jackson terrorists and said CBS should negotiate with them...LMAO

Whitlock is retarded. He was on Lou Dobbs with a journalist from Ebony Magazine and made a fool of himself by saying that nobody has challenged or been outraged about Lyrics in Rap... Meanwhile the journalist from Ebony had just published an article about eliminating derrogatory terms from rap 2 months ago. It just shows how disconnected Whitlock is from the issue. He's retarded! I noticed he didn't use his ignorant black KKK speech with respected journalists...

[Spider]

It's too bad that the media has soo much control over minds in this country. It is sad when a person considers a bigot like Imus a legend. Second the fat baffoon and the wannabe poet do not deserve the credit for bringing this into focus. The National Association of Black Journalists started and finished it.

It's shameful for you to even want a bigot to have the opportunity to continue to spew his negative venom on national airwaves. Imus did this many times without severe punishment. He apologised before and here he is again.

I never listened to Imus didnt really know what he was famous for , so I did some reading , and yes he is a racist ....... no hiding that fact ....... but then so are Sharpton and Jesse Jackson ......

[Maximus]

I never listened to Imus didnt really know what he was famous for , so I did some reading , and yes he is a racist ....... no hiding that fact ....... but then so are Sharpton and Jesse Jackson ......

I agree 100% Sharpton is an idiot bigot... Jessie Jackson is senile!

[REB]

El Minion...I'm well aware of the things that Imus has said over the years and it's apart of his schtick he's been doing for decades. I guess we should remove Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock and guys like Carlos Mencia from the airwaves as well. Mencia tears everyone a new one on a weekly bases. But so what? It's comedy. When did we all start taking ourselves so seriously. Why can't we laugh at ourselves and others like we use to. The wussification of America is going strong. Cest la vie. Enjoy the ride. Once their done with this kind of speech they'll move on to quite possibly anything you might have to say. Like I said, it's a slippery slope so enjoy the ride. jmho

[Cito Pelon]

Well, Imus is off the air period now, I guess. Fired by CBS which I believe held the syndication for the radio show, and he's already off the MSNBC simulcast.

I have to say he earned it. Although I've heard similar comments on the program about more "jaded" public figures like Britney Spears, the Spice Girls, Hillary Clinton, I heard them one time yucking it up about comparing the black wife of a politician to a whore, the list goes on and on.

This time they picked on somebody that wasn't what one could say is a public figure and therefore maybe more jaded toward such remarks. Also, although Imus and his staff are known for similar remarks, usually they are part of comedy skits and seldom came from Imus himself.

This time Imus himself crossed the line himself, and got nailed.

[Spider]

I never listened to Imus didnt really know what he was famous for , so I did some reading , and yes he is a racist ....... no hiding that fact ....... but then so are Sharpton and Jesse Jackson ......

;D lock all 3 up in a room let em fight it out , the rest of us continue on trying to understand each other and live our lives

[footstepsfrom#27]

El Minion...I'm well aware of the things that Imus has said over the years and it's apart of his schtick he's been doing for decades. I guess we should remove Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock and guys like Carlos Mencia from the airwaves as well.
Do you really think "we" had anything to do with it? Imuscumbsucker was removed because advertisers spoke with their feet and walked. Obviously if white America gave a rat's turd about what Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy or Mencia were saying about them they'd be up in arms about it, and you'd have advertisers bailing from those sponsorships as well.

They're not...so they stay on the air.

[Northman]

Do you really think "we" had anything to do with it? Imuscumbsucker was removed because advertisers spoke with their feet and walked. Obviously if white America gave a rat's turd about what Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy or Mencia were saying about them they'd be up in arms about it, and you'd have advertisers bailing from those sponsorships as well.

They're not...so they stay on the air.

Obviously, white america has thicker skin.

[Hogan11]

Yawn...how long before Imus shows up on Sirus...any wagers?

[Northman]

Yawn...how long before Imus shows up on Sirus...any wagers?


Im sure that will make Stern happy. haha

[El Minion]

El Minion...I'm well aware of the things that Imus has said over the years and it's apart of his schtick he's been doing for decades. I guess we should remove Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock and guys like Carlos Mencia from the airwaves as well. Mencia tears everyone a new one on a weekly bases. But so what? It's comedy. When did we all start taking ourselves so seriously. Why can't we laugh at ourselves and others like we use to. The wussification of America is going strong. Cest la vie. Enjoy the ride. Once their done with this kind of speech they'll move on to quite possibly anything you might have to say. Like I said, it's a slippery slope so enjoy the ride. jmho


One important difference between those comedians you mentioned and others is that they are not entrusted with a public trust - the public air waves. Those entertainers are allowed to shill there work on PPV, cable, and premium channels, but not on broadcast television or radio.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Obviously, white america has thicker skin.
Yeah? Or maybe it helps to be able to spend your whole life never impacted by issues that effect blacks daily.

You're a credit to your race.

[Garcia Bronco]

One important difference between those comedians you mentioned and others is that they are not entrusted with a public trust - the public air waves. Those entertainers are allowed to shill there work on PPV, cable, and premium channels, but not on broadcast television or radio.

Apparently you missed SNL in the 80's and 90's.

[Garcia Bronco]

Whitlock is retarded. He was on Lou Dobbs with a journalist from Ebony Magazine and made a fool of himself by saying that nobody has challenged or been outraged about Lyrics in Rap... Meanwhile the journalist from Ebony had just published an article about eliminating derrogatory terms from rap 2 months ago. It just shows how disconnected Whitlock is from the issue. He's retarded! I noticed he didn't use his ignorant black KKK speech with respected journalists...

That might all be true...but he's right..Sharpton and Jackson are ..let's say...shakedown artists...much like the late Johnny Cockhran

[Maximus]

That might all be true...but he's right..Sharpton and Jackson are ..let's say...shakedown artists...much like the late Johnny Cockhran

Johnny Cochran was not a shake down artist. Johnny Cochran was a hell of a Lawyer who knew how to work the system based on his life experiences dealing with racism.

[cswil]

For blacks locked into "1968" probably 80%

Every other black person nil.

They don't represent anything except their own interests. No one or two people speak for a large group living across the country. This was the mistake assassins made in the 60s thinking that if they 'killed the head the snake would die" as if all blacks were led by the nose in lockstep with a small group, and once they were eliminated blacks would disappear.

Crap. Let me git my magnum. I'm going for a walk... http://scosoft.com/s/d/ebad21f.gif

They use "racism" as a forum and are only interested in self promotion when they can take a situation and continue to promote the "victim" role for the entire race of black people. This country's black population does not need 2 self promoting wind bags to "stick up" for them. I just wish that a prominant person from the black community would stand up and say it....kind of like Jason Whitlock did yesterday in the KC Star. Unfortunately, they seem to hold the media and corporate America by the balls and any time they dont like someone, they will destroy them.

[Garcia Bronco]

Johnny Cochran was not a shake down artist. Johnny Cochran was a hell of a Lawyer who knew how to work the system based on his life experiences dealing with racism.

He was a shakedown artist. He even wanted to represent the snipers that went around shooting people and claim racism.

[cswil]

He was a shakedown artist. He even wanted to represent the snipers that went around shooting people and claim racism.

Well, I think attorney and shakedown artist are somewhat related in the English language.

[Garcia Bronco]

Well, I think attorney and shakedown artist are somewhat related in the English language.

We have attorney's that post here...I didn't want to be offensive :)

the worst kind IMO is the ambulance chaser...Like John Edwards.

[cswil]

We have attorney's that post here...I didn't want to be offensive :)

the worst kind IMO is the ambulance chaser...Like John Edwards.

I am sure all lawyers have hear it before.
I agree, when you enter college and subsequently law school as a young man or woman, I hardly think that anyone is struggling through grueling course work dreaming of the day that they can represent Thelma who is suing Snak Atak because she hurt her knee when she slipped on a puddle of grease in the parking lot. If your job is to squeeze dollars out of small business over bruised knees and sprained ankles, you are a shakedown artist.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

We have attorney's that post here...I didn't want to be offensive :)
the worst kind IMO is the ambulance chaser...Like John Edwards.You better hope you don't have to find some "ambulance chaser" someday to try and make you whole again after some unfortunate mishap with all your bad karma floating around from dissing so many people (based solely on your ESP powers).

[Spider]

You better hope you don't have to find some "ambulance chaser" someday to try and make you whole again after some unfortunate mishap with all your bad karma floating around from dissing so many people (based solely on your ESP powers).

LOL GB would be on the phone to every attorney he could find if he slipped on the floor in wal mart .......... Might even call Edwards

[Rascal]

The people who should truly be pissed are the woman of the world, regardless of their color. I was oblivious to this till my much more intelligent wife brought it up, but she brought up some concrete examples of how sexist of a world we live in, and that is portrayed significantly in the media. And I think this signifies that. Looking at the picture of the basketball team it is obvious that they are not beautiful, but how many comments have been made about a mens basketball team because the guys on it were ugly? And it's not just men that perpetuate the sexists attitude BTW.

[errand]

I have never said or implied that I hate white people. Everything that I have said was to defend my race, which has been under attack on this board a number of times. Why is my race under attack so much around here?

.

...as I'm sure most whites on here have been made to defend their race as well.

You say your race is under attack on this board numerous times...please link the hate threads that support this accusation.

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL GB would be on the phone to every attorney he could find if he slipped on the floor in wal mart .......... Might even call Edwards

The hell I would...it would be my own damn fault for losing my balance...but it would seem you belong to the blame somebody else crowd. The only time somebody else should be sued is because the other party is 100 percent negligent.

[errand]

That is how you, and others, are taking it, but it is not how I am presenting it. If that is how some of you feel, the problem is on your end.

So by defending my race, I'm a racist? That's kind of like a white guy lashing out against some black girls, and then we get like 16 pages of white people bashing the black race. Yeah, that makes sense.

Nobody is bashing your race....but, there are alot of people teling you to look at the hatred spewed by members of your own race towards members of your own race.

I guess what they're trying to tell you is clean your own yard up before you start bitching about your neighbors.

[Spider]

The hell I would...it would be my own damn fault for losing my balance...but it would seem you belong to the blame somebody else crowd. The only time somebody else should be sued is because the other party is 100 percent negligent.

uh huh ......... sure thing ...........slip fall shout call a lawyer I got whiplash

[Spider]

Nobody is bashing your race....but, there are alot of people teling you to look at the hatred spewed by members of your own race towards members of your own race.

I guess what they're trying to tell you is clean your own yard up before you start b****ing about your neighbors.

;D pretty much sums it all up

[usedupbraids]

it was funny the things he said..if he was Mike Epps this will be no problem..

[errand]

You are living in a different world. You think it's only Black America that watches MTV, etc...?

..well, actually nobody watches MTV anymore. Their viewer numbers have dwindled every year. Perhaps nobody likes such great shows like "Yo MTV Raps", "Pimp My Ride", and "Yo Momma"

[errand]

Well, this is definietley a day of healing.

Imus was fired from both CBS and MSNBC.

Nifong is apologizing to the Duke Lacross players whose lives he destroyed, and here in North Carolina our our Assembly has officially apologized for slavery.

I guess I'll wake up tomorrow and there won't be any racism now, huh?

[cutthemdown]

I like watching black shows. Blacks are talented people in many areas. Their contributions to music through Jazz far outweight the fact rap is garbage. For every Yo MTV Raps there is the Chappelle show which was funnier then anything maybe i have ever watched. He made fun of both blacks and whites like only a black man can get away with. Violence had reared its ugly head in our big cities or the so called ghettos long before rap music came along. I don't think it's rap musics fault that we have violent street gangs, but it has made it worst. I think what it's done more then anything is make it more newsworthy. No one cared in 1980 when some street dealer got offed by a rival gang, but once it became rap superstar Tupac Shakur shot down white people started to notice more I think.

[Spider]

Well, this is definietley a day of healing.

Imus was fired from both CBS and MSNBC.

Nifong is apologizing to the Duke Lacross players whose lives he destroyed, and here in North Carolina our our Assembly has officially apologized for slavery.

I guess I'll wake up tomorrow and there won't be any racism now, huh?

all we need is Canada to apologize for Brian Adams ;D

[cswil]

I like watching black shows. Blacks are talented people in many areas. Their contributions to music through Jazz far outweight the fact rap is garbage. For every Yo MTV Raps there is the Chappelle show which was funnier then anything maybe i have ever watched. He made fun of both blacks and whites like only a black man can get away with. Violence had reared its ugly head in our big cities or the so called ghettos long before rap music came along. I don't think it's rap musics fault that we have violent street gangs, but it has made it worst. I think what it's done more then anything is make it more newsworthy. No one cared in 1980 when some street dealer got offed by a rival gang, but once it became rap superstar Tupac Shakur shot down white people started to notice more I think.

The thing about Chapelle is that he makes fun of stupid racial stereotypes in a way that he is telling the "PC Crusaders" to kiss his ass. He takes no prisoners, everyone is fair game.

[BroncoInferno]

The only time somebody else should be sued is because the other party is 100 percent negligent.

That is absurd. You can always find some way to pin a percentage point or two on the victim. Thank goodness you have no say over how the law is applied, otherwise a lot of innocent victims of neglect would be SOL.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Amazing.

Imus affair opens deep divide on morning shows

By DAVID HINCKLEY

DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, April 11th 2007, 4:00 AM

Two sides of an intense debate surfaced separately on the radio yesterday over who, if anybody, gets to use derogatory words in public media.

Hosts on both morning shows at WFNY (92.3 FM) blasted what they called a gross overreaction to WFAN morning host Imus' offhand description of Rutgers women basketball players last week as "nappy-headed ho's."

But morning hosts Steve Harvey of WBLS (107.5 FM) and Miss Jones of WQHT (97.1) just as strongly declared that the official response so far - WFAN and MSNBC have suspended Imus' show for two weeks starting Monday - hasn't yet matched the offense.

WFNY morning co-host Opie charged that the Rev. Al Sharpton, who is leading a campaign to get Imus fired, "would never" criticize rappers who used similar language "the way you went after Imus."

"White people are completely castrated in this situation," said Opie's partner, Anthony, who said Imus' comment was just a joke that didn't work.

"It's meaningless," said Anthony. "These are just words."

Harvey and Miss Jones couldn't have disagreed more.

"People who think these terms can be used anywhere are wrong," said Harvey. "And no one should ever use them without realizing there will be repercussions."

"Imus uses 'nappy-headed ho'," said Miss Jones, "as his way of saying n-."

The Rev. DeForest Soaries, who has also been pushing for Imus' dismissal, said the phrase cast a wide net of denigration, touching women, women athletes and dark-skinned black women.

Soaries also criticized rappers like Jay-Z who use derogatory language, warning that "we all need to be more responsible, because if we say it about ourselves, white folks think they can say it about us, too."

Harvey said it's not the action of blacks that needs attention.

"If black people want to talk about each other a certain way, that's their option," he said. "Mr. Imus, you don't have that option. You can't say what I say."

Harvey added that if he were in Imus' shoes, "I'd probably fight the same way he's fighting. But it ain't gonna work."

WQHT broke out a parody song of an Imus-like voice singing "Nappy-headed Ho's" to the tune of "Wonderful World," while midmorning hosts JV and Elvis on WFNY played a parody bit where Imus repeatedly calls "The Imus Apology Hotline," only to find the answering machine will never accept his apology.


Miss Jones who played the famous Tsunami Song referring to Asians as "chinks" (after thousands of people died days earlier) LINK HERE (http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2005/jan05/20050127_missjones.html), thinks Imus's suspension was not enough. Meanwhile, she is still at her post at Hot 97 in New York where on her show just last week rapper 50 Cent was heard spewing racial remarks about Jews.

Does anybody else see a problem with this?

[Northman]

Amazing.



Miss Jones who played the famous Tsunami Song referring to Asians as "chinks" (after thousands of people died days earlier) LINK HERE (http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2005/jan05/20050127_missjones.html), thinks Imus's suspension was not enough. Meanwhile, she is still at her post at Hot 97 in New York where on her show just last week rapper 50 Cent was heard spewing racial remarks about Jews.

Does anybody else see a problem with this?



Uh yea. But the difference is the white culture and even the asian culture arent going to run and try to force miss jones off the air. They believe strongly in free speech. But, obviously miss jones is nothing more than a hypocrite.

[alkemical]

In other news stupidity still lives! BAAAAHAAA!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265422,00.html

DJ Fired for Encouraging Listeners to Repeat Don Imus' Remarks

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

ALLENTOWN, Pa. — A radio station fired its longtime morning DJ Wednesday after he encouraged listeners to repeat talk-show host Don Imus' racially charged comments in an on-air contest.

Gary Smith told WSBG-FM listeners to call and say "I'm a nappy-headed ho" for Tuesday's "Phrase that Pays" contest, said Rick Musselman, executive vice president of station owner Nassau Broadcasting Partners L.P.

Musselman said three of the listeners who called were awarded tickets to a NASCAR promotion at a local club.

Station management reviewed a tape of the broadcast of the "Gary in the Morning" show and fired Smith, Musselman said.

Musselman said that Smith was fired and not suspended because he uttered the slur in a premeditated manner, "with full knowledge of the reaction to Don Imus' use of the exact same phrase."

The nationally syndicated Imus was suspended for two weeks by CBS Radio and MSNBC after he called members of the mostly black Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos." Civil rights groups have demanded his firing.

WSBG 93.5, a 3,000-watt rock station, is based in Stroudsburg, about 40 miles northeast of Allentown. The Princeton, N.J.-based Nassau is privately held with more than 50 radio stations in the Northeast.



LOL you couldn't get any better than what's bolded.

[alkemical]

if Obama did that , I probably could forgive the cocaine usage ......or at least root for the guy to win

Never trust a coke head, haven't you learned that by now?

[Spider]

Never trust a coke head, haven't you learned that by now?
lost my head for a second there ...........thinking about how I am going to celebrate cinco de mayo day ;D

[footstepsfrom#27]

If you read my whole post you would see that I also blamed the media.


Plus the media helps Jackson and Sharpton stay powerfull by constantly showing their point of view to white and black viewers everytime there is a race issue.

theres the part of my same post you left out of your quote. If you are going to quote me quote the whole thing you little chicken ****.
I did read your whole post you ignorant ass...why do you think I referenced the media?...because you did. Pffftt...internet tough guys... Hilarious!

[broncobum6162]

I think Jessie Jack...son and Al Sharpton should be fired for all the stupid and sensless things they've said about many of their own collegues in congress and in other forms of government. Seems like when a white man says something wrong, "We gotta make that man pay for all the years of racial injustice". When a black man says something wrong. " well , we were mistreated all these years and we have a right to say that." This is just what you would expect to see from Sharpton and Jackson. I would venture to say that "this " is not what Martin Luther King was all about. I think racial tensions would get better, not worse when those 2 dudes aren't spuwing out there version of racial equality.

Don't get me wrong, what Imus said was wrong and he should have apologized among other things, but to let it get to this point amounts to nothing less than a witchhung.

[Los Broncos]

Jessie and Sharpton have asked alot of these rappers to stop talking about women in derogatory manner, but when people like Imus say these things it just gives them an a excuse to keep it up.

[Garcia Bronco]

That is absurd. You can always find some way to pin a percentage point or two on the victim. Thank goodness you have no say over how the law is applied, otherwise a lot of innocent victims of neglect would be SOL.

Blame the attorneys and people that have abused the system all in the name of greed.

[Garcia Bronco]

I did read your whole post you ignorant ass...why do you think I referenced the media?...because you did. Pffftt...internet tough guys... Hilarious!

People skills at work.

[footstepsfrom#27]

People skills at work.
Still wimpering? You must have been the school yard punching bag.

[Garcia Bronco]

Still wimpering? You must have been the school yard punching bag.

I didn't go to that kind of school.

[broncocalijohn]

There are thousands of such leaders in the black community. You don't think the white controlled media has any real interest in them do you? Ratings follow controversy.

sorry but until those "leaders" stand up and be counted, this si what we are left with. Bill Cosby says what needs to be said and gets rediculed by other black leaders and such, whites, latinos and blacks will hear these shake down artists that are a bunch of hypocrites. I am still waiting for Al Sharpton the racist black leaders to apologize for the riots, lies and public humiliation he has brought on many.

[broncocalijohn]

Jessie and Sharpton have asked alot of these rappers to stop talking about women in derogatory manner, but when people like Imus say these things it just gives them an a excuse to keep it up.


Really? Let me know the last protest they did on the lyrics of rap music. How about the shooting and gang violence in their community. THey beatch about a death row inmate that killed 4 people in cold blood and started one of the biggest gangs, the Crips, about being put to death but are never around a month later when a non black was getting the lethal injection at the same prison. They have blamed the Lacrosse players, the Brawley fake rape had an accuser ripped by them, got a riot going on a jewish business, calling the rape in Central park by a gang of blacks as a Whore, etc etc etc! F these two bigots. Some day we will actually have black leaders that will try to fix their community problems and not have the baggage like Jackson and Sharpton. The shakedown artist are at it again!

[Odysseus]

We as a country are divided and have lost our way. When did we as Americans surrender our rights to free speech, free thought and open debate? When did we as Americans become puppets of the press.

Right now 160,000 soldiers were told through the MEDIA (not the chain of command) that they are extending to 15 months and not a single thread on that. I would like to request prayers on that but I don't know if anybody here even really prays.

All this self pity and feeling sorry for ourselves. What a waste. You guys should stop and take a look at yourselves. It's not pretty.

[Northman]

Really? Let me know the last protest they did on the lyrics of rap music. How about the shooting and gang violence in their community. THey beatch about a death row inmate that killed 4 people in cold blood and started one of the biggest gangs, the Crips, about being put to death but are never around a month later when a non black was getting the lethal injection at the same prison. They have blamed the Lacrosse players, the Brawley fake rape had an accuser ripped by them, got a riot going on a jewish business, calling the rape in Central park by a gang of blacks as a Whore, etc etc etc! F these two bigots. Some day we will actually have black leaders that will try to fix their community problems and not have the baggage like Jackson and Sharpton. The shakedown artist are at it again!


yea, that was grand. The black leaders called that " wilding " and not rape. How rich was that. Ha!

[alkemical]

We as a country are divided and have lost our way. When did we as Americans surrender our rights to free speech, free thought and open debate? When did we as Americans become puppets of the press.

Right now 160,000 soldiers were told through the MEDIA (not the chain of command) that they are extending to 15 months and not a single thread on that. I would like to request prayers on that but I don't know if anybody here even really prays.

All this self pity and feeling sorry for ourselves. What a waste. You guys should stop and take a look at yourselves. It's not pretty.

So everyone reads this again.

[Circle Orange]

The people who should truly be pissed are the woman of the world, regardless of their color. I was oblivious to this till my much more intelligent wife brought it up, but she brought up some concrete examples of how sexist of a world we live in, and that is portrayed significantly in the media. And I think this signifies that. Looking at the picture of the basketball team it is obvious that they are not beautiful, but how many comments have been made about a mens basketball team because the guys on it were ugly? And it's not just men that perpetuate the sexists attitude BTW.

It's no different than when no black women were ever considered 'beautiful' but only 'attractive' no matter HOW they really looked. On the other hand, anything white and blond was instantly gorgeous and the so called ideal. I don't pretend to guess, but 'beauty' is whatever you think it is...I've seen people described as drop dead gorgeous and don't see it at all. Conversely, some very attractive people are called unattractive or homely for reasons that defy description. Women are always sexualized and made trivial. This takes away their power and effectiveness in society. They become cute caricatures. And unfortunately a lot of stupid women go along with the crap (ie places like HOOTERS) and now I heard of a golf course that has scantily clad women to accompany men to give them 'advice' on the golf course. What's the purpose? So they can look at the 'hotties'? Even phrases of speech that involve women basically refer to weakness or ineffectiveness, or their sexual body parts. The latest loveword on the internet is douchebag. I've seen and heard this a million times lately. Seems like people get ahold of one line and wear it out. Unless they make babies, women are still second class citizens in many eyes. If she's successful, she's a bitch, or slept her way up. Or connived. Or is a tool to be used for symbolism. Or isn't a real woman. Or cold. Blah blah blah.

Imus is just bug ugly...he and Mick Jagger have gotta be two of the homliest men I've ever seen.

Oh, and for the record, everyone latina ain't hot, either. this includes men AND women. They have homely and ugly people too, just like every race. But there's all kinds of ugly, you dig? 8')

[Bronco_Beerslug]

..well, actually nobody watches MTV anymore. Their viewer numbers have dwindled every year. Perhaps nobody likes such great shows like "Yo MTV Raps", "Pimp My Ride", and "Yo Momma"Ha!

They're seen in 169 countries, heard in 28 different languages and are a 8 billion a year operation.

[alkemical]

Ha!

They're seen in 169 countries, heard in 28 different languages and are a 8 billion a year operation.

They are at the cutting edge of interactive marketing and consumer driven content. They have been major influences, like it or not (I don't) - See here for an example. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=52603)

[BroncoInferno]

Blame the attorneys and people that have abused the system all in the name of greed.

No, blame the corporations that are more than willing to screw over the little man for a buck, along with fallacious right wing propaganda about trial lawyers that gullible nincompoops buy into...hook, line and sinker.

[Barry Ramey]

Yep, just as Neal Boortz predicted, not only did CBS can Imus, but the liberals are going after all talk radio since they can't find a way to be successful in it. They are going to try to shut them all down to keep them quiet so Hillary can become President without her nasty little secrets being talked about all through the election. Yeah, trampling on the 1st Amendment isn't such a big deal since they think they decide who gets to have it anyway. The ends justify the means apparently and yet they call their enemies Natzis. Whatever.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55182

[alkemical]

Yep, just as Neal Boortz predicted, not only did CBS can Imus, but the liberals are going after all talk radio since they can't find a way to be successful in it. They are going to try to shut them all down to keep them quiet so Hillary can become President without her nasty little secrets being talked about all through the election. Yeah, trampling on the 1st Amendment isn't such a big deal since they think they decide who gets to have it anyway. The ends justify the means apparently and yet they call their enemies Natzis. Whatever.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55182

Rupert Murdoch is giving hillary money and support. I think your left wing conspiracy just hit an iceburg.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Jessie and Sharpton have asked alot of these rappers to stop talking about women in derogatory manner, but when people like Imus say these things it just gives them an a excuse to keep it up.

Lynchmob, unfortunately I have to correct you here. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have not protested rap music for the racial and sexist content. They have stood up against violence in rap music and Al Sharpton specifically has called out rappers who insight violence on each other. They have NEVER worked as hard as they do in situations like the Imus one to stop black on black racism and sexism! Bill Cosby has and he was lambasted for it!

After the Tsunami's we had a black radio shock jock "Miss Jones" call Asian kids "chinks" and guess who's still on the air today: LINK TO MY EARLIER POST (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1548619&postcount=567) She even had the guts to say Imus's suspension was not enough punishment. She apparently thinks calling Asian people "chinks" after a tragedy like the Tsunami doesn't compare to what Don Imus has done.

Look what comedian and radio show host Steve Harvey had to say in this interview below (sitting along side the racist shock jock Miss Jones):

People who think these terms can be used anywhere are wrong," said Harvey. "And no one should ever use them without realizing there will be repercussions."

"Imus uses 'nappy-headed ho'," said Miss Jones, "as his way of saying n-."

The Rev. DeForest Soaries, who has also been pushing for Imus' dismissal, said the phrase cast a wide net of denigration, touching women, women athletes and dark-skinned black women.

Soaries also criticized rappers like Jay-Z who use derogatory language, warning that "we all need to be more responsible, because if we say it about ourselves, white folks think they can say it about us, too."

Harvey said it's not the action of blacks that needs attention.

"If black people want to talk about each other a certain way, that's their option," he said. "Mr. Imus, you don't have that option. You can't say what I say."

I love this quote by Miss Jones:

"Imus uses 'nappy-headed ho'," said Miss Jones, "as his way of saying n-."

As opposed to coming right out and calling Asian people chinks?

People who say that there is no double standard in this country are blind! What are we to make of this? Steve Harvey in one sentence is saying "people" (not black or white) just people need to know that these kinds of terms cannot be used anywhere. Then a few sentences later he basically says if black people want to talk about each other in a certain way that it's their option. What happened to "people" can't use these terms?

This problem will never go away until we get rid of the double standard and people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson stop cherry picking racial issues and denounce racism across the board.... including black on black!!!

My apologies for the long winded post!

[defenseman]

Yep, just as Neal Boortz predicted, not only did CBS can Imus, but the liberals are going after all talk radio since they can't find a way to be successful in it. They are going to try to shut them all down to keep them quiet so Hillary can become President without her nasty little secrets being talked about all through the election. Yeah, trampling on the 1st Amendment isn't such a big deal since they think they decide who gets to have it anyway. The ends justify the means apparently and yet they call their enemies Natzis. Whatever.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55182

As much crying as I've heard about rights being trampled on I'm a bit surprised by the reaction of the media. Then again, they want what "they" want to be heard and I'll agree, if they get their way, there won't be anymore conservative talk radio. Finis, gone. Nothing like stomping on the right to free speech, errr, stomping on the "conservative" right to free speech. But, you won't hear one protest out of the media or any liberal politician. Why? it serves their agenda. Freaking hilarious...dman

[defenseman]

Rupert Murdoch is giving hillary money and support. I think your left wing conspiracy just hit an iceburg.

One example only, does not make an iceberg. You'll have to muster a bit more of an "ice flow" to convince me your position is correct...dman

*Mr. murdoch is the exception to the rule.

[defenseman]

Lynchmob, unfortunately I have to correct you here. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have not protested rap music for the racial and sexist content. They have stood up against violence in rap music and Al Sharpton specifically has called out rappers who insight violence on each other. They have NEVER worked as hard as they do in situations like the Imus one to stop black on black racism and sexism! Bill Cosby has and he was lambasted for it!

After the Tsunami's we had a black radio shock jock "Miss Jones" call Asian kids "chinks" and guess who's still on the air today: LINK TO MY EARLIER POST (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1548619&postcount=567) She even had the guts to say Imus's suspension was not enough punishment. She apparently thinks calling Asian people "chinks" after a tragedy like the Tsunami doesn't compare to what Don Imus has done.

Look what comedian and radio show host Steve Harvey had to say in this interview below (sitting along side the racist shock jock Miss Jones):



I love this quote by Miss Jones:

"Imus uses 'nappy-headed ho'," said Miss Jones, "as his way of saying n-."

As opposed to coming right out and calling Asian people chinks?

People who say that there is no double standard in this country are blind! What are we to make of this? Steve Harvey in one sentence is saying "people" (not black or white) just people need to know that these kinds of terms cannot be used anywhere. Then a few sentences later he basically says if black people want to talk about each other in a certain way that it's their option. What happened to "people" can't use these terms?

This problem will never go away until we get rid of the double standard and people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson stop cherry picking racial issues and denounce racism across the board.... including black on black!!!

My apologies for the long winded post!


OUTSTANDING POST!!!!!! And a perfect example of the double standard our media and the Black community practices on a daily basis. Jesse jackson and Al Sharp as a round stone LEAD the charge on this double standard. UNTIL, someone has the guts to stand up to this, and call it what it is, and weather the storm that follows, it will continue. JJ and sharp as a stone are nothing more than leeches on society and promote racism. Incredible no one will call them on it. And the freaking politicians bow to the supposed "minorities" and some of the racists bigot leaders of todays black america. Freaking morons, one and all...dman

*Bill cosby is a breath of fresh air who is summarily targeted every single time he opens his mouth, by the media and by black america. Really sad to see.

[RaiderH8r]

The solution to all of this BS will and always will come from hardworking, decent human beings of whatever race sitting at a bar drinking beers and laughing at the absurdity of the three ring circus that is life.

[alkemical]

One example only, does not make an iceberg. You'll have to muster a bit more of an "ice flow" to convince me your position is correct...dman

*Mr. murdoch is the exception to the rule.


Then, class is in session (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=48566) -

[Garcia Bronco]

No, blame the corporations that are more than willing to screw over the little man for a buck, along with fallacious right wing propaganda about trial lawyers that gullible nincompoops buy into...hook, line and sinker.

"If you're hurt we'll come to you, call the injury firm of Rob, Steal, and Lie. We have an excellent staff that will get you the money you deserve. Eat too many marbles? How dare they make the marbles that small. Driving like a jack arse and hit a light pole? We know a faulty guide wire when we see one..."

Yeah...it's the noble of noble professions.

[leon]

he's being fired over money!!!!! no one cares about the rutgers female basketball team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Barry Ramey]

It is interesting how so much rap music refers to women as "bitches" and "hoes" and glorifies violence while Jackson and Sharpton keep quiet about it, not to mention so many "black leaders" making excuses for it. I'd be interested to know how many of the Rutgers players who were offended by Imus have brothers who listen to that kind of rap crap and if they themselves listen to that junk and if they get as outraged by it. I bet I know the answer.

[alkemical]

"If you're hurt we'll come to you, call the injury firm of Rob, Steal, and Lie. We have an excellent staff that will get you the money you deserve. Eat too many marbles? How dare they make the marbles that small. Driving like a jack arse and hit a light pole? We know a faulty guide wire when we see one..."

Yeah...it's the noble of noble professions.

There's that side, but also the side where companies have truely wronged and hurt people as well.......

[Garcia Bronco]

There's that side, but also the side where companies have truely wronged and hurt people as well.......

There is...unfortunately..the stewarts of the law have allowed the frivolous to become out of control.

[alkemical]

There is...unfortunately..the stewarts of the law have allowed the frivolous to become out of control.

I see it as a reflection of our culture as a whole - everything is the extreme.

[Garcia Bronco]

I see it as a reflection of our culture as a whole - everything is the extreme.

You'd be right...but these guys are where the rubber meets the road.

[defenseman]

It is interesting how so much rap music refers to women as "b****es" and "hoes" and glorifies violence while Jackson and Sharpton keep quiet about it, not to mention so many "black leaders" making excuses for it. I'd be interested to know how many of the Rutgers players who were offended by Imus have brothers who listen to that kind of rap crap and if they themselves listen to that junk and if they get as outraged by it. I bet I know the answer.

One player mentioned she was "scarred" for life by what he said. I find that very hard to believe that. Second, if she is, she's probably got alot more issues going on that would trump the "imus" scenario. Pretty amazing from where I sit..dman

[Tredici]

One player mentioned she was "scarred" for life by what he said. I find that very hard to believe that. Second, if she is, she's probably got alot more issues going on that would trump the "imus" scenario. Pretty amazing from where I sit..dman

Maybe that's because you can't fathom being Valedictorian of your class, an accomplished athlete and still be stung publically by both a racist and sexcist remark.

I find it hard to believe pompous, judgemental fools can't figure out what their issues are.

[REB]

Stung....ok fine. Scarred for life? C'mon now. That would be your own damn fault.

[defenseman]

Stung....ok fine. Scarred for life? C'mon now. That would be your own damn fault.

Yep, deal with it and move on. Why let what one a$$ on the radio have any affect on your life. He wins, you lose. ....that's her fault.....dman

[defenseman]

Maybe that's because you can't fathom being Valedictorian of your class, an accomplished athlete and still be stung publically by both a racist and sexcist remark.

I find it hard to believe pompous, judgemental fools can't figure out what their issues are.

Yep, you prove that on a cosistent basis, agreed..dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Maybe that's because you can't fathom being Valedictorian of your class, an accomplished athlete and still be stung publically by both a racist and sexcist remark.

I find it hard to believe pompous, judgemental fools can't figure out what their issues are.[B]

Yep, you prove that on a cosistent basis, agreed..dman
So you're calling Tredici a "pompous, judgemental fool"?

ROFL!

[BroncoInferno]

For those people flat out making crap up about blacks not calling out their own regarding rap lyrics, I just got back from listening to Obama speak at South Florence High School, and he went out of his way to chastise hateful rap lyrics in lue of Imus' remarks. People in the black community are calling out their own, some of you ignorant fools just ignore it because it doesn't fit in your myopic vision of the world. But carry on with the utter BS if it makes you feel smart.

[Popcorn Sutton]

For those people flat out making crap up about blacks not calling out their own regarding rap lyrics, I just got back from listening to Obama speak at South Florence High School, and he went out of his way to chastise hateful rap lyrics in lue of Imus' remarks. People in the black community are calling out their own, some of you ignorant fools just ignore it because it doesn't fit in your myopic vision of the world. But carry on with the utter BS if it makes you feel smart.

You said it. It took the Don Imus situation for a prominent black leader to speak out against hateful rap lyrics. I wonder if he will be chastised the way Bill Cosby was?

[alkemical]

For those people flat out making crap up about blacks not calling out their own regarding rap lyrics, I just got back from listening to Obama speak at South Florence High School, and he went out of his way to chastise hateful rap lyrics in lue of Imus' remarks. People in the black community are calling out their own, some of you ignorant fools just ignore it because it doesn't fit in your myopic vision of the world. But carry on with the utter BS if it makes you feel smart.

In the words of the great poet Lil' John:


What?


I can't hear you over the cash register.....

[cutthemdown]

For those people flat out making crap up about blacks not calling out their own regarding rap lyrics, I just got back from listening to Obama speak at South Florence High School, and he went out of his way to chastise hateful rap lyrics in lue of Imus' remarks. People in the black community are calling out their own, some of you ignorant fools just ignore it because it doesn't fit in your myopic vision of the world. But carry on with the utter BS if it makes you feel smart.

Did he call for a boycott? Did he ask for anything of substance to occur if the artists and record companies don't listen?

[alkemical]

Did he call for a boycott? Did he ask for anything of substance to occur if the artists and record companies don't listen?

Ooohhhh i got an idea - lets buy the CD's and burn them. It worked well when the bible thumpers were preaching against marylin manson. That'll teach the record industry!

;)

[cutthemdown]

Ooohhhh i got an idea - lets buy the CD's and burn them. It worked well when the bible thumpers were preaching against marylin manson. That'll teach the record industry!

;)

Just so you know I would never support such a horrid thing. I hope you're not implying that I would. I'm for free speech. I'm just saying Obama mentioning objectionable lyrics in a speech and saying they shouldn't do it, is not really on the same level as a witch hunt that not only costs a man his career, but also causes a loss of money to CBS radio. Also he brought in a lot of money for charity. Whatever though I didn't listen to him, but you can bet my ears are open, my eyes also.

[Northman]

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have not protested rap music for the racial and sexist content.

Looks like that is going to change ( supposedly ). I heard today a sound byte of Sharpton claiming his going after the Hip Hop artists for their use of language in their lyrics. He said he is going to be unrelentless. I bet he is in for a rude awakening. :rofl:

[REB]

Being a libertarian I was actually thinking about voting for Obama. I think he's an extremely intelligent human being and I like him. But now I will not vote for him. IMUS NEEDS TO BE FIRED sums it up for me . Libertarian all the way. Unbelievable

[broncocalijohn]

We as a country are divided and have lost our way. When did we as Americans surrender our rights to free speech, free thought and open debate? When did we as Americans become puppets of the press.

Right now 160,000 soldiers were told through the MEDIA (not the chain of command) that they are extending to 15 months and not a single thread on that. I would like to request prayers on that but I don't know if anybody here even really prays.

All this self pity and feeling sorry for ourselves. What a waste. You guys should stop and take a look at yourselves. It's not pretty.


What the f is this? We just had a guy lose a 50 million dollar job that serves many people in the US by the help of shake down artist. This is about race, free speech, fairness, decency, etc. The extension of the soldiers is a story and if you want to discuss it, start the thread. To minimize this and try to be holier than thou is laughable. Sorry, but your Sheat stinks just like the rest of us crappers.

[broncocalijohn]

Looks like that is going to change ( supposedly ). I heard today a sound byte of Sharpton claiming his going after the Hip Hop artists for their use of language in their lyrics. He said he is going to be unrelentless. I bet he is in for a rude awakening. :rofl:

Well, he has about 20 years to see what it has been. I can understand how he never knew about rap lyrics these days as rap is sooooo underground. He is full of it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

What the f is this? We just had a guy lose a 50 million dollar job that serves many people in the US by the help of shake down artist. This is about race, free speech, fairness, decency, etc. Uh, 15 million dollar a year job, lets' not exaggerate and he lost his job because corporate America deemed it so. Get use to the new and "directed" free speech in this country (bought and paid for by those who sponsor media).








Here's someone who is happy about it though.....

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Condoleezza Rice: I'm glad Imus was fired (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070413/pl_nm/usa_race_imus_rice_dc_1)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice said on Friday that radio host Don Imus' comments about the Rutgers University women's basketball team were "disgusting" and she was pleased he was fired.

Imus called the women players "nappy-headed hos" -- racist, sexist remarks that resulted in a barrage of protests and ultimately in the outspoken host losing his CBS Radio show, which was also televised.

"I'm very glad that there was, in fact, a consequence. I think that this kind of coarse language doesn't belong anywhere in reasonable dialogue between reasonable people," Rice said in an interview with syndicated radio show host Michael Medved.

Rice, the first black female U.S. Secretary of State and a former college professor, said the young women Imus targeted were fine athletes trying their best.

"It gets ruined by this disgusting -- and I'll use the word 'disgusting' -- comment which doesn't belong in any polite company and certainly doesn't belong on any radio station that I would listen to," she added.

Asked how she handled racist, sexist comments directed her way, Rice laughed and replied: "I'm a big girl. I can take care of myself. And I really don't care because, you know, I'm a mature woman."

[x123z]

How would you feel if your daughter was on the team?

[ohiobronco2]

How would you feel if your daughter was on the team?

I'm caucasian, so let me change the dialogue. "Those are some straight haired honkey's right there". Hmmm.....At first I'd probably laugh and stop watching his show if I did to begin with. I would come out and publicly state that this is America and everyone has the right to be an idiot and make idiotic comments. I would suggest that those who don't agree with his opinions stop tuning in to his programs and stop supporting his sponsors. I'd stop short of going on air and demanding he be fired. For me, it's as simple as that.

[FADERPROOF]

In this day, you can't say the same things that Imus sais and not get fired for it, it's sad because I do not agree with the firing but I'm not surprised about it at all. They suspended him for 2 weeks, keep that suspension and let the self-serving ass Al Sharpton get his camera time and it'll all blown over.

What it does show is the double standard that we have here, if Imus was a black man then he would get laughs and then move on, nothing would be done about it. Even if he was saying it about white women, calling them something offensive, he still wouldnt have any turmoil because he is a black man. Listen to rap music and listen to comedians, they say much worse than what Imus said, but somehow it is not offensive when they say it, yet it is when a white person says it.

There are black comedians that have their "sterotypical white man" joke, where they get all serious and crack jokes, and it's funny. Have a white comedians do a "stereotypical black man" joke and his career is over as he is protested and comedy clubs won't welcome him back.

Offensive is offensive no matter who says it, if I dont like being called something then I'm going to be upset at the person who said regardless of color, just wish it were the same for everybody.

[fuzzy]

I haven't read all of this thread, but it seems by most maners' definations i'm a full blown racist. So I thought i'd ask....

I find offensive humor funny. The group of friends I hang with find offensive humor funny too. Popular subjects we slam on include dead baby jokes, pedophile jokes, helen keller jokes and of course the mother of all offensive things for a group of white guys to joke about... race jokes. I've also found found one of the funniest stand-up routines to be comedians of other races making fun of white people. So if it's of any relavance for my white ass to be laughing at other races making fun of whites, then there you go.

A good example of one of our jokes: whats blue and red and bangs on the glass? a baby in a microwave.

To me it's all harmless because I know the intentions of the people i'm interacting with. I know my buddy mike is a good person wouldn't actually enjoy watching a baby get put into a microwave, he wouldn't be the kind of person that would do something cruel to someone with a disability and he has never treated women with less respect than he treats men.

Also...our little group doesn't go around subjecting others to this humor, because we know most people don't like it.

So... for anyone who still reads this thread, by what i've described of myself here, am I a racist? I've admittedly used more racial slurs than I can count.

[alkemical]

Looks like that is going to change ( supposedly ). I heard today a sound byte of Sharpton claiming his going after the Hip Hop artists for their use of language in their lyrics. He said he is going to be unrelentless. I bet he is in for a rude awakening. :rofl:

Will Sug Knight hang him over a balcony too?

[FADERPROOF]

Looks like that is going to change ( supposedly ). I heard today a sound byte of Sharpton claiming his going after the Hip Hop artists for their use of language in their lyrics. He said he is going to be unrelentless. I bet he is in for a rude awakening. :rofl:


Sharpton won't pursue it, he goes after the white people that he can put pressure on and will back down instead of get into a race war with him, the rappers aren't pushovers and will tell him to STFU and might even make a diss song about him if he were to go after them.

[cutthemdown]

I haven't read all of this thread, but it seems by most maners' definations i'm a full blown racist. So I thought i'd ask....

I find offensive humor funny. The group of friends I hang with find offensive humor funny too. Popular subjects we slam on include dead baby jokes, pedophile jokes, helen keller jokes and of course the mother of all offensive things for a group of white guys to joke about... race jokes. I've also found found one of the funniest stand-up routines to be comedians of other races making fun of white people. So if it's of any relavance for my white ass to be laughing at other races making fun of whites, then there you go.

A good example of one of our jokes: whats blue and red and bangs on the glass? a baby in a microwave.

To me it's all harmless because I know the intentions of the people i'm interacting with. I know my buddy mike is a good person wouldn't actually enjoy watching a baby get put into a microwave, he wouldn't be the kind of person that would do something cruel to someone with a disability and he has never treated women with less respect than he treats men.

Also...our little group doesn't go around subjecting others to this humor, because we know most people don't like it.

So... for anyone who still reads this thread, by what i've described of myself here, am I a racist? I've admittedly used more racial slurs than I can count.


I've said it before and I will say it agian NO YOU ARE NOT A RACIST. A racist is not someone who thinks black jokes are funny, or uses the word N*****. Racism is about thinking your race is superior. That your race is more human than another race. You dehumanize the other races to the point where violence towards that race would be perfectly ok in you eyes. Racism is not giving a job to someone based on their color. Racism is a lot of things but I don't think racism is offensive jokes or language. But if you go out and use racial slurs to try and intimidate or dehumanize another race you are probably a racist.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Sharpton won't pursue it, he goes after the white people that he can put pressure on and will back down instead of get into a race war with him, the rappers aren't pushovers and will tell him to STFU and might even make a diss song about him if he were to go after them.It's not like he hasn't spoken of it before and is just starting to now because of Imus.


March 9, 2005
REV. AL SHARPTON, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK: (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/09/ltm.03.html) Good morning.

O'BRIEN: Aren't you concerned, though, that by raising awareness about this and talking about this, to a large degree you're putting money in the pocket of the people that you're trying to ban in the first place?

SHARPTON: Well, I think that that's a concern. But we've now seen consistent acts that's become a pattern. And I think to remain silent now is to really be a betrayal of our own young people.

I'm not talking about lyrics. I'm not talking about content. I'm talking about when an artist engages in violence that the FCC and advertising and radio stations have the right, as we do in sports, to say wait a minute, you cannot conduct yourself in that way, and say that you're going to use federally-regulated airwaves to promote your albums if you are, in fact, engaging in violence. Not singing about it, not rapping about it, but do a violent act.

O'BRIEN: Russell Simmons, who I know is a friend of yours, obviously the music producer, had this to say. He thinks in some ways you're pointing the wrong direction. Let's listen.

RUSSELL SIMMONS, RAP MOGUL: If a violent rap artist has some words that people don't like in middle America, we have to attack the root. That violence that 50 Cent or The Game is engaging in today is the same violence that's happening in Brooklyn and Queens and all over America today as well.

O'BRIEN: He says essentially that's their roots. This is what they're coming from.

SHARPTON: And if they're going to rap about it and sing about it, they have the First Amendment right. But if they do it, they don't have the right then to expect the airwaves to say that it's conduct that we're going to promote.

We do this to any basketball player, any baseball player. If they engage in violence, they're not in the next game. If you and Bill had a shootout outside last night, you would not be on the air this morning.

This is the only part of the entertainment industry, there's no rules. There's no regulation. And what I'm saying is Russell is right. They have the right to talk about the violence they come from. I come from that violence, but I do not have the right to go out and engage in violence, and then ask the federal airwaves to allow me to continue in my career like it's nothing.

Are we saying these kids are nothing? We saw the FCC outrage over Janet Jackson's flashing at the Super Bowl. We're not going to be outraged about actual shootings in front of radio stations?

O'BRIEN: What's the response been from the FCC?

SHARPTON: We're going to meet with them. We're going to meet with advertisers. We want to know why dollars that come out of our communities are being used to uphold those that engage in violence. Again now, I'm not talking about content. I'm talking about actual acts of violence. Are we condoning them by not putting a standard in the business?

O'BRIEN: Do you then see a voluntary imposition of these standards from the entertainment industry? Do you think that's realistic?

SHARPTON: It's been done in sports every day. We do it in every form of sports. We do it in Hollywood. There's a moral clause in contracts. There's one in your contract.

O'BRIEN: But you don't -- but in my contract, it doesn't -- I'm not better off if I engage in violence. When you're talking about rappers, it actually builds their credibility. It makes them more popular. For most people, that's not the case. A shootout doesn't help their career. For rappers, it actually helps their career and the industry, frankly.

SHARPTON: It may help because it's permitted. It would not help if it is not permitted, because if stockholders of advertisers say wait a minute, we didn't realize this is what we're allowing to happen, it would not help their career, which is exactly my point.

If you take the profit out of it, it would not help their careers. If a guy gets into an argument and goes for his gun and thinks, wait a minute, I could lose my airplay, it might make that gun stay in the holster. And that is what I'm saying.

We need to stop helping them make their careers by acting in a violent way. We need to say, say what you want, do what you want. I think some of the music is great. I'm a fan of some of the music. Some I think is misogynist. But that's not the point. The point is we've got to give them an incentive to say no matter what my rap is, I don't have the right nor is it going to be lucrative to me to engage in that activity personally.

[Northman]

Sharpton won't pursue it, he goes after the white people that he can put pressure on and will back down instead of get into a race war with him, the rappers aren't pushovers and will tell him to STFU and might even make a diss song about him if he were to go after them.

Thats exactly how i see it going down as well. Once sharpton gets ridiculed by the hip hop artists he will fold like a paper towel. Unlike the Imus incident there wont be a mass of african americans to back up Sharpton's war on Hip Hop. It will be much more the other way around.

[Broncos_OTM]

Okay, lets trade sides on that double standard. You get the perks that black people get, which isn't much. And black people get that perks that white people get. Lets see how many white folks would want to make a black joke that bad. Probably zero.
dont blame me. you people have the oppurtunity. what do you do with it? i work with alot of african americans and ill call it like i see it. the ones i have worked with want a paycheck they dont wanna earn it. and when they are asked to do something they think that just because they are black that you cannot ask them to do anything with out it being racist. they all feel that whitey owns them something. they have equal oppurtunity. its eaisser to get a hand out then actually do something to improve themselves.. and although the stero type is not always right. given my expirence it is more true then not.

[scorpio]

here's the video of Whitlock vs. Sharpton


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Edit: Sorry, this isn't the video with Sharpton's response, I'll try to find it