Asante Samual not happy

[cutthemdown]

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, a free agent limited by the franchise tag, wants to be traded.

"This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel told Schefter. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can’t be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded."

Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.

The problem is that the Pats have shelled out plenty of money for multiple free agents in the past month, and Samuel has been paying close attention.

"I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." (Or move out.)


This was pulled off PFT. I wonder how messy this will get?

[Broncos24]

Who's Samuel's agent? I bet it's that Drew freakin guy.

[Xenos]

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, a free agent limited by the franchise tag, wants to be traded.

"This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel told Schefter. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can’t be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded."

Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.

The problem is that the Pats have shelled out plenty of money for multiple free agents in the past month, and Samuel has been paying close attention.

"I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." (Or move out.)


This was pulled off PFT. I wonder how messy this will get?
This is what the Patriots get for diverting from their original formula. Paying someone else from another team a really high amount backfired on them when it comes to their own players.

[Jens1893]

There WILL be a report that the Redskins are interested in trading for Samuel before the weekend. Bet on it.

[SoCalBronco]

Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.

[Rocket 7]

Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.

He's got to feed his family

[atomicbloke]

Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.



Poor guy.

In these hard times, who can get by on a mere half-million a week.

I really feel sorry for him.

[cutthemdown]

I know players can sit first 10 weeks, then show and get credit for the year. I doubt that Samual would do this though. He will need the money even though he feels it's not enough. Getting nothing is alot less.

[SoCalBronco]

I know players can sit first 10 weeks, then show and get credit for the year. I doubt that Samual would do this though. He will need the money even though he feels it's not enough. Getting nothing is alot less.

The 10 week thing isnt an issue here, because its not like he has 1 year left on his contract and he is trying to get to free agency. He doesnt have a contract.

[PatsWin2002]

Typical.....the players' union agrees to stuff like this and then the players b!tch when it happens to them. Ugh.

[cutthemdown]

The 10 week thing isnt an issue here, because its not like he has 1 year left on his contract and he is trying to get to free agency. He doesnt have a contract.

You're wrong it does matter. If you get credit for year and they want to franchise you again the tag number goes up. If you use the tag on a player the 3rd time it goes to what they call qb money. It's no longer top 5 at your position and instead top 5 at any position. So if Samual sat out he would want to get credit for the year by showing up week 10. If Samual didn't get credit for the year then he would gain nothing by sitting out.

[shakenbake]

This seems to come up every year for the Pats.

[Taco John]

Typical.....the players' union agrees to stuff like this and then the players b!tch when it happens to them. Ugh.

In fairness, the players union agrees on it as a concession to the owners... You're not going to find a single player who likes the franchise tag rules.

[watermock]

It's hard for me to cry for Samuel and Briggs with that much coin. Take out an insurance policy if your worried about injury then. 4.3 million in 10 games is alot of coin IMO.

[400HZ]

This could put a serious hurt on the Patsies. Cheers!

[Kaylore]

Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.

I agree 100%.

[Crowpointer]

I agree 100%.

I bet you do ( unless of course it's the Broncos) Hey how does Asante expect to live on a one year 7.7 million salary ? Unlike Branch at least this is happening before the draft. Calling Daniel Snyder

[Atlas]

Denver should trade for him he would be a great nickle back for the Broncos.

[Darkhawk24]

I bet you do ( unless of course it's the Broncos) Hey how does Asante expect to live on a one year 7.7 million salary ? Unlike Branch at least this is happening before the draft. Calling Daniel Snyder

Most teams don't go through this every year with their better players. It appears the Pats have a history of not paying top value for their players not named Tom Brady. It works for the Pats so no one is blaming them, but is this type of situation going to become a yearly event for New England?

[Popcorn Sutton]

Denver should trade for him he would be a great nickle back for the Broncos.

:militia: :militia:

[cmhargrove]

I really have ahard time feeling sorry for Samuel and Briggs also, freakin' crybabies. You can spout all you want about "Gettin' mine" but in all honesty I can hardly bear it as a fan.

That one year of work would be like you or me working at our regular job for 40 years making about 200,000 per year. All for one year of work. Gotta feed them babies....

I think his real problem comes from Seeing Adalius Thomas get paid. The Pats finally paid for someone besides Brady. Samuel cashes in this year, and probably next. But history shows the Pats will probably let him go. As if they needed better draft picks with 2 already in the first round.

[shakenbake]

Most teams don't go through this every year with their better players. It appears the Pats have a history of not paying top value for their players not named Tom Brady. It works for the Pats so no one is blaming them, but is this type of situation going to become a yearly event for New England?

It happened to Brady too. But he agreed to take less money so that they could keep talent around him. Instead they just don't pony up the cash for anyone. Brady isn't getting paid what he is worth.

[Popcorn Sutton]

With the Niners and Clements deal this offseason... I wonder what Asante Samuel is asking for behind closed doors? 7.8 million is a ton of jack for us lamen but Samuel has his eyes on that 15 to 20 plus in guaranteed money.

[That One Guy]

There WILL be a report that the Redskins are interested in trading for Samuel before the weekend. Bet on it.

Good Call!! Didn't even take till the weekend. Snyder is getting a bit predictable these last... few years.



As Per PFT:POSTED 12:57 p.m. EDT, April 6, 2007

'SKINS TO MAKE A PLAY FOR SAMUEL?

Dan Snyder of the Washington Redskins can't help himself. Every offseason, he is compelled to make a big splash, in some way.

He didn't do it in free agency this year, for a change. So with a top-ten pick burning a hole in his draft board and Bears linebacker Lance Briggs (whom the 'Skins don't really need) not available via a flip-flip of first round picks, Snyder apparently will sniff around Pats cornerback Asante Samuel (whom the 'Skins don't really need).

Ryan O'Halloran of the Washington Times reports that the Redskins are expected to call the Patriots regarding Samuel, a free agent who has been slapped with the franchise tag.

The Redskins currently have cornerbacks Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, and David Macklin under contract. Even if they trade or cut Springs, they don't need Samuel.

But Snyder can't help himself. He collects big-name players like Florio Jr. hoards McFarlane NFL figures, without regard to the manner in which his collection will interact on the field or in the locker room.

In hindsight, then, the decision of Samuel to recently go public with his dissatisfaction might have been a stroke of genius. With the Bears telling the Redskins that a flip-flop of first-round picks won't happen, the 'Skins need to find someone else to take the sixth overall pick off of their hands. And Samuel's comments apparently have caught Snyder's ear.

So for the No. 28 pick and Samuel, the Pats possibly could have the No. 6 overall pick. Heck, maybe they can also get the 'Skins to throw in Springs.

The question, then, is whether the Pats even want the No. 6 pick. If they do, the next question is whether the Patriots would try to package the No. 6 selection with the No. 24 pick (which they got from the Seahawks for Deion Branch) in an effort to move up to get once-in-a-generation receiver Calvin Johnson.

[55CrushEm]

I think I'll sh1T if the Patriots end up with 3 total 1st round picks.....

[Xenos]

I think I'll sh1T if the Patriots end up with 3 total 1st round picks.....

Can they afford to sign all three?

Anyways, if Pioli is as smart as I think he is, he'll get a deal done for Samuel. Samuel may have had only 1 good year so far, but looking over his past accomplishments, it shows that he's been steadily improving every year he's in the league. He's still young and will continue to be a devasting force for NE. If he gets traded, the Pats are going to be hurt this year. If he signs then NE will continue to improve not only this year but also in the future as well.

[watermock]

Most teams don't go through this every year with their better players. It appears the Pats have a history of not paying top value for their players not named Tom Brady. It works for the Pats so no one is blaming them, but is this type of situation going to become a yearly event for New England?

How incredibly ignorant...Brady could of signed for 100 million instead of 60. Why? He thought that would free up money to keep quality players around him.

[watermock]

I think the Samuel talk by the Skins is to twist the arm of Da Bears. I guess maybe they regret not locking up Champ tho. Why would they pay Champ money to an inferior product?

Never mind...it's Snyder. This is pissing me off...stay away from our Biatch Billichick.

[HorseHead]

this is nice for me to hear stuck in Pats country....blah, blah, blah, Brady's poop doesn't stink..blah, blah, blah...

how about Belicheck? the guy is mackin' on a new chick....and it's not the one in Jersey whose marriage he wrecked.........

back to Assante, lets hope he is a distraction for awhile...

[Drek]

Why exactly is anyone bagging on Samuel, or Lance Briggs for that matter? NFL teams make billions on the backs of its players, who play one of the most physically dangerous sports in the world. Is it even the least bit surprising that these guys want some form of financial guarantee, to protect them should they blow out a knee or worse?

I find the contracts of most pro athletes to be pretty obscene, but its a hell of a lot better than Bob Kraft and Virgina Halas McCaskey stuffing an extra $10M in their pockets.

That doesn't mean every player should get paid more, but teams need to be more willing to open up the check book for productive veterans. Samuel and Briggs are both pro-bowlers, they should be paid accordingly.

The NFL needs to remove the franchise tag and instead instute a scaled down version of the NBA's Larry Bird Rule. In the NBA that allows teams to sign a 5 year member of the team to a deal that doesn't show up on the cap. For the NFL keep the same minimum service time, though maybe go with four seasons, and make only non-guarnateed salaries not count against the cap. Players will still want their signing bonuses, thats what protects them from losing everything if they get hurt, but teams will be able to afford carrying their veterans through retirement.

[Rock Chalk]

Well Im all for lowering both owner and player paychecks by lowering concession and ticket prices to the point where any average family can go enjoy a game without spending a week's pay to do so.

Sports was the blue collar man's entertainment in previous decades. Now, its just another upper middle class man's entertainment. That is, to see it live. The poor and lower middle class might get to go to a single sporting event in a year, thats not how it was meant to be.

With that said, I feel no pity for any player not getting what they want and I despise all owners for overcharging on ticket prices.

[Garcia Bronco]

Why exactly is anyone bagging on Samuel, or Lance Briggs for that matter? NFL teams make billions on the backs of its players, who play one of the most physically dangerous sports in the world. Is it even the least bit surprising that these guys want some form of financial guarantee, to protect them should they blow out a knee or worse?

I find the contracts of most pro athletes to be pretty obscene, but its a hell of a lot better than Bob Kraft and Virgina Halas McCaskey stuffing an extra $10M in their pockets.

That doesn't mean every player should get paid more, but teams need to be more willing to open up the check book for productive veterans. Samuel and Briggs are both pro-bowlers, they should be paid accordingly.

The NFL needs to remove the franchise tag and instead instute a scaled down version of the NBA's Larry Bird Rule. In the NBA that allows teams to sign a 5 year member of the team to a deal that doesn't show up on the cap. For the NFL keep the same minimum service time, though maybe go with four seasons, and make only non-guarnateed salaries not count against the cap. Players will still want their signing bonuses, thats what protects them from losing everything if they get hurt, but teams will be able to afford carrying their veterans through retirement.

Hey...these guys can go play in Canada if they want...no one is making them play football. They could be accountants instead.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Why exactly is anyone bagging on Samuel, or Lance Briggs for that matter? NFL teams make billions on the backs of its players, who play one of the most physically dangerous sports in the world.

Do I think these guys are a bit spoiled?


Yes.

Is is somewhat patronizing to hear them say they have to do what's best for their family?

A little bit. 90% of Americans won't make Asante Samuel or Lance Brigg's salary next year in a lifetime.

If was in their shoes would I be so determined on getting paid market value?

Hell Yeah. I'd go about it a little differently though.

I don't blame these guys for doing what they are doing but I'm not going to feel sorry for them either.

On a side note: It sounds like New England's hardline stance is starting to catch up with them.

[cmhargrove]

Well Im all for lowering both owner and player paychecks by lowering concession and ticket prices to the point where any average family can go enjoy a game without spending a week's pay to do so.

Sports was the blue collar man's entertainment in previous decades. Now, its just another upper middle class man's entertainment. That is, to see it live. The poor and lower middle class might get to go to a single sporting event in a year, thats not how it was meant to be.

With that said, I feel no pity for any player not getting what they want and I despise all owners for overcharging on ticket prices.

Great points, I agree!!

[Broncobiv]

Brady isn't getting paid what he is worth.
Heck, he's barely getting paid enough to feed the babies his women keep popping out.

[400HZ]

Well Im all for lowering both owner and player paychecks by lowering concession and ticket prices to the point where any average family can go enjoy a game without spending a week's pay to do so.

Sports was the blue collar man's entertainment in previous decades. Now, its just another upper middle class man's entertainment. That is, to see it live. The poor and lower middle class might get to go to a single sporting event in a year, thats not how it was meant to be.

With that said, I feel no pity for any player not getting what they want and I despise all owners for overcharging on ticket prices.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[MechanicalBull]

There WILL be a report that the Redskins are interested in trading for Samuel before the weekend. Bet on it.

Hey Jens looks like you were right. http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20070406-124136-1222r.htm

Although they appear set at cornerback, the Redskins are expected to call New England about Asante Samuel, who expressed disappointment Wednesday about not getting a long-term contract and would be open to a trade. Samuel shared a tie for first in the NFL last year with 10 interceptions and was designated as the Patriots' franchise player.
Unable to complete a major trade this offseason -- talks with Chicago for linebacker Lance Briggs broke down earlier this week -- the Redskins might make a play for Samuel.

[That One Guy]

I often hear people saying that they'd rather the money go to the players rather than the owners but does anyone really believe the owners are getting less money when this happens? If the owners pay out another 15M in salaries this year, they just hike up prices to get an extra 25M. They will always get their share, more to the players simply means fans pay more.

[cutthemdown]

I bet NO gets into this as well.

[Drek]

I often hear people saying that they'd rather the money go to the players rather than the owners but does anyone really believe the owners are getting less money when this happens? If the owners pay out another 15M in salaries this year, they just hike up prices to get an extra 25M. They will always get their share, more to the players simply means fans pay more.

I've seen many teams increase salary without making any significant additions. Look at the Colts, they significantly raised prices post-SB win and in the process have let many of their key defenders walk, like June, Doss, Harper, etc..

In turn I've never seen a team sign a guy and then say "we gotta raise tickets because we signed X player." If you have please point it out.

Whenever I hear people bitch I'm reminded of what Alonzo Mourning once responded with when asked if he felt pressure over being the (then) highest paid player in the NBA. He said why should he feel pressure when those millions allowed him to pursue his law degree, put 13 cousins through college, and support his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren.

Now not every athlete does that, but enough do that it makes putting that option out there worthwhile, more so than giving a billionaire another $10-$15M. Also, the bastards who don't give back ultimately do anyways, paying child support for all their illegitimate children. ;P

[400HZ]

It looks like Pioli really screwed himself here. His whole early philosophy of building through the draft and not paying anybody more than they are worth went up in smoke when he signed that gang of receivers this year. Of course the guys who have been in the system for a while are gonna get pissed. Pioli could have just kept his superbowl receivers for the same amount that he's paying this new unproven group.

Asante Samuel without doubt has 1st round value. It doesn't look like Pioli has much leverage here though because Samuel can just start sitting out the season until Pioli finally decides to get what he can. Worse case for Samuel is that he doesn't play this year and then cashes an enormous Nate Clements sized check next year.

It is a seller's market for DBs this year though, and with dumbasses like Snyder out there NE will probably get well compensated. Even if the Patsies do get a 1st rounder for Samuel though, this is almost garenteed to hurt them at least short term.

[That One Guy]

I've seen many teams increase salary without making any significant additions. Look at the Colts, they significantly raised prices post-SB win and in the process have let many of their key defenders walk, like June, Doss, Harper, etc..

In turn I've never seen a team sign a guy and then say "we gotta raise tickets because we signed X player." If you have please point it out.


You're right, they don't because of X player but the rising salary caps is the justification for increasing ticket prices. To be competitive a team generally has to spend right up to the salary cap so one way or another, owners are spending 116M or whatever the cap number is this year. So if Samuel wants a bigger contract all he's gonna do is take a bigger portion of the team's salary money, it wont affect the owner at all.

[cutthemdown]

Albert Breer, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl) CB Asante Samuel (http://www.kffl.com/player/6006/nfl) want a long-term deal similar to San Francisco 49ers (http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl) CB Nate Clements (http://www.kffl.com/player/167/nfl)' deal, which was worth $80 million over eight years with a $22 million guarantee. He might be willing to come in under that, but he wants more than the $16 million guaranteed that Denver Broncos (http://www.kffl.com/team/15/nfl) CB Dre' Bly (http://www.kffl.com/player/1736/nfl) received, since he is the No. 2 cornerback and is almost four years Samuel's senior.


Pulled this off KFFL.