Idenity Theft

[Stormontheplains]

Friday I had 2 spanish customers come in to look at RV's. Both could not speak english but brought a translater with them. I ran socials for both, when the results came up both of the customers were white women one from Hollywood, and the other from san diego. The woman from hollywood died in 1991 and still has a 745 credit score, the women from san diego had a bad credit score, but there was a number to call if the social was pulled. I called the number and the lady answered. I explained who I was and why I was calling, she informed me that her credit has been pulled 52 times and I was the first to call the alert number on the report. Anyway she got a hold of the FBI and well see what happens. Very sad that this happens to people. She informed me she has been stopped and arrested twice due to her social being used as a driver liscence number. This has to stop, but how do you do it?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Friday I had 2 spanish customers come in to look at RV's. Both could not speak english but brought a translater with them. I ran socials for both, when the results came up both of the customers were white women one from Hollywood, and the other from san diego. The woman from hollywood died in 1991 and still has a 745 credit score, the women from san diego had a bad credit score, but there was a number to call if the social was pulled. I called the number and the lady answered. I explained who I was and why I was calling, she informed me that her credit has been pulled 52 times and I was the first to call the alert number on the report. Anyway she got a hold of the FBI and well see what happens. Very sad that this happens to people. She informed me she has been stopped and arrested twice due to her social being used as a driver liscence number. This has to stop, but how do you do it?You get all that info (race, etc...) from running a credit check?

[TailgateNut]

Friday I had 2 spanish customers come in to look at RV's. Both could not speak english but brought a translater with them. I ran socials for both, when the results came up both of the customers were white women one from Hollywood, and the other from san diego. The woman from hollywood died in 1991 and still has a 745 credit score, the women from san diego had a bad credit score, but there was a number to call if the social was pulled. I called the number and the lady answered. I explained who I was and why I was calling, she informed me that her credit has been pulled 52 times and I was the first to call the alert number on the report. Anyway she got a hold of the FBI and well see what happens. Very sad that this happens to people. She informed me she has been stopped and arrested twice due to her social being used as a driver liscence number. This has to stop, but how do you do it?

...at the border shoot first and ask questions later!

[Stormontheplains]

Bronco--Yes, it is part of the patriot act, to get more info than you want. I have had a couple people show up with dangerous and columbian exile printed on their report with an FBI phone number.

[defenseman]

...at the border shoot first and ask questions later!

And DA's are putting the border patrol in jail for this, with the help of some organizations around the country. I'm pissed off as hell about our guys enforcing and being tossed in jail for it.......freaking mine the border, collect the body parts later...dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

And DA's are putting the border patrol in jail for this, with the help of some organizations around the country. I'm pissed off as hell about our guys enforcing and being tossed in jail for it.......freaking mine the border, collect the body parts later...dmanOnly people who commit crimes a government agents and then conspire to conceal them.

Bronco--Yes, it is part of the patriot act, to get more info than you want. I have had a couple people show up with dangerous and columbian exile printed on their report with an FBI phone number.
Too much! We now are turning car salesmen into policemen.

[defenseman]

Bronco--Yes, it is part of the patriot act, to get more info than you want. I have had a couple people show up with dangerous and columbian exile printed on their report with an FBI phone number.

Based on our govts and local authorities records of conviction rate of border patrol agents, and the liberals pushing the illegal agenda in our country, you can't win. Call the number and bail on them is about all you can do. the whole thing makes my stomach turn.....dman

[Garcia Bronco]

...at the border shoot first and ask questions later!

Amen

[defenseman]

Only people who commit crimes a government agents and then conspire to conceal them.


Too much! We now are turning car salesmen into policemen.

If you say so. As far as turning car salesmen into police, disagree. They just call the number and leave it at that. Just being a good citizen at that point. The FBI needs to take it from there, the salesman in question needs to steer clear at that point......dman

[Stormontheplains]

Bronco- I am not a used car salesman, and yes I should be able and do call the authorities when the law is being broke. You worry more about what the government is doing then a family who's credit is being destroyed by people here Illegally. I call the police every time someone gives a false social and follow up with the victim to make sure the police are doing what they are supposed to do. What can you do in this county without credit????

[defenseman]

Bronco- I am not a used car salesman, and yes I should be able and do call the authorities when the law is being broke. You worry more about what the government is doing then a family who's credit is being destroyed by people here Illegally. I call the police every time someone gives a false social and follow up with the victim to make sure the police are doing what they are supposed to do. What can you do in this county without credit????

Awesome , just awesome. If all were to do so, we could clean out part of the illegal problems out there. My hats off to ya storm. What was that RV website again...dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Bronco- I am not a used car salesman, and yes I should be able and do call the authorities when the law is being broke. You worry more about what the government is doing then a family who's credit is being destroyed by people here Illegally. I call the police every time someone gives a false social and follow up with the victim to make sure the police are doing what they are supposed to do. What can you do in this county without credit????I didn't say you were.

So how do you detain the suspects until the police arrive?
I guess the next step is to station police in every consumer goods outlet that requires credit checks to purchase merchandise.

[Garcia Bronco]

I didn't say you were.

So how do you detain the suspects until the police arrive?
I guess the next step is to station police in every consumer goods outlet that requires credit checks to purchase merchandise.

The best thing to do is stall them by saying that your system just went down and to show them more product.

[Stormontheplains]

They are never taken right away, usually it takes weeks for the police to get together with Immagration. Two years ago I called on a illegal that gave me 4 social security numbers, I called the number, got a call back with questions of where he worked and lived, 6 months later I heard on the news that he was busted along with 10 others, all of whom worked at a beef plant. It's a long process, so if the worker moves or quits it becomes hard to track them down again.
The sad part is, the lady I talked about first, had here credit pulled 52 times without the company's calling in and reporting, that says to me that the sale is more important than the victem, very sad

[enjolras]

That was one of the better provisions of the patriot act. The idea isn't that your going to detain these people, but rather that you can help the FBI spot obviously suspicious behavior because the background check can help get your radar raised just a bit.

If you sell trucks you might ask a few more questions as to WHY someone is buying a big commerical truck. If you sell fertilizer, maybe you are a little more thorough when someone wants to buy a lot of it. You don't have to arrest them on the spot, but it is definitely an effective way to establish that certain people are doing the types of things that could end up killing a lot of people.

I have no issue with that. It merely contributes to a more vigilant society.

Storm: Awesome:)

[Garcia Bronco]

In Insurance, any commercial client is checked on a known terroist watch list. It's a mandate of the PAct

[Bronco_Beerslug]

That was one of the better provisions of the patriot act. The idea isn't that your going to detain these people, but rather that you can help the FBI spot obviously suspicious behavior because the background check can help get your radar raised just a bit.

If you sell trucks you might ask a few more questions as to WHY someone is buying a big commerical truck. If you sell fertilizer, maybe you are a little more thorough when someone wants to buy a lot of it. You don't have to arrest them on the spot, but it is definitely an effective way to establish that certain people are doing the types of things that could end up killing a lot of people.

I have no issue with that. It merely contributes to a more vigilant society.

Storm: Awesome:)
I kinda doubt terrorists are going to be buying anything on credit.

[Garcia Bronco]

I kinda doubt terrorists are going to be buying anything on credit.

They do...on stolen credit.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

They do...on stolen credit.Really, have a link showing this?

[alkemical]

Really, have a link showing this?


Well.... according to some sources - some of the supposed 9/11 terrorists are actually alive in the M.E - so if that's true - either their ID's were stolen - or it's "coincidence"

[Garcia Bronco]

Really, have a link showing this?

Why? Cause if it's on the internets it must be true. I deal enough with PCI compliance to know that they do.

[defenseman]

Well.... according to some sources - some of the supposed 9/11 terrorists are actually alive in the M.E - so if that's true - either their ID's were stolen - or it's "coincidence"

I'd be interested in seeing info on that one....dman

*Garcia, didn't you know, if it doesn't have a link, it just can't be true....and the media never lies either....

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Well.... according to some sources - some of the supposed 9/11 terrorists are actually alive in the M.E - so if that's true - either their ID's were stolen - or it's "coincidence"So what does that have to do with terrorists applying for credit in the U.S.?
Why? Cause if it's on the internets it must be true. I deal enough with PCI compliance to know that they do.So in other words, no, you have no proof or links for your statement.

[Crushaholic]

Beerslug, you seem to have no problem with this apparent identity theft for reasons unknown to me. Storm, I commend you for being vigilant...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Beerslug, you seem to have no problem with this apparent identity theft for reasons unknown to me. Storm, I commend you for being vigilant...You seem to not be comprehending what you are reading. The criminals applying for credit in this country wouldn't be doing so if the laws preventing employers from hiring them in the first place were enforced. As raincloudsontheprairie said, nothing happens to them anyway when they call the police.

[Stormontheplains]

Once again Beernut, they have fake documentation, so how is someone to know that. Does the government call and let you know that the Identity Verification is know good, I have never heard of that. We had a guy that owned a call dealership, cleaning service, and served on many community boards get deported a month ago, the only way they found out was he hit his wife, and the police discovered his status. The SBA, IRS, and local banks did not know. and by the way if I'm raincloudsontheprairie your are "Chief Red Ass"

[defenseman]

You seem to not be comprehending what you are reading. The criminals applying for credit in this country wouldn't be doing so if the laws preventing employers from hiring them in the first place were enforced. As raincloudsontheprairie said, nothing happens to them anyway when they call the police.

He didn't say that. He said action is not normally taken until later on. But I'm thinking they try to "net" as many as possible when they do spend the taxpayers money. More bang for your buck, makes sense to me......dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

He didn't say that. He said action is not normally taken until later on. But I'm thinking they try to "net" as many as possible when they do spend the taxpayers money. More bang for your buck, makes sense to me......dman

Really? Once they walk out the door how would he or anyone else know what happened to them?

[Stormontheplains]

Dman, they always try to get more than one, and that's why it takes a while. The process I have seen is local sherriff will investigate and then it gets turned into the fed's.

[defenseman]

Dman, they always try to get more than one, and that's why it takes a while. The process I have seen is local sherriff will investigate and then it gets turned into the fed's.

Just guessing here, if there isn't a "link" to prove it, it just couldn't have happened? what do you think stormy? God forbid, a world without "links", for shame for shame. Keep up the good work, and hopefully the "local sheriff" can continue lending a hand at a making a buck go a little farther for the american taxpayer......dman

[Crushaholic]

You seem to not be comprehending what you are reading. The criminals applying for credit in this country wouldn't be doing so if the laws preventing employers from hiring them in the first place were enforced. As raincloudsontheprairie said, nothing happens to them anyway when they call the police.

They never APPLIED for credit. They STOLE it. There was no evidence they actually had a job or intended to pay for the vehicle. The only thing we can discern is that the social security numbers given weren't really them.