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Bronco_Beerslug
03-23-2007, 10:06 PM
What a bunch of low-life individuals, probably the worst administration in the the entire history of the country.

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Documents show Gonzales approved firings (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070324/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fired_prosecutors_191)
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 19 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales approved plans to fire several U.S. attorneys in a November meeting, according to documents released Friday that contradict earlier claims that he was not closely involved in the dismissals.


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Attorney General Alberto Gonzales takes a question during a news conference in Washington, Friday, March 9, 2007.Gonzales approved plans to fire several U.S. attorneys in a November meeting, according to documents released Friday that contradict earlier claims that he was not closely involved in the dismissals. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, FILE)

The Nov. 27 meeting, in which the attorney general and at least five top Justice Department officials participated, focused on a five-step plan for carrying out the firings of the prosecutors, Justice Department officials said late Friday.

There, Gonzales signed off on the plan, which was crafted by his chief of staff, Kyle Sampson. Sampson resigned last week amid a political firestorm surrounding the firings.

The documents indicated that the hour-long morning discussion, held in the attorney general's conference room, was the only time Gonzales met with top aides who decided which prosecutors to fire and how to do it.

Justice spokeswoman Tasia Scolinos said it was not immediately clear whether Gonzales gave his final approval to begin the firings at that meeting. Scolinos also said Gonzales was not involved in the process of selecting which prosecutors would be asked to resign.

On March 13, in explaining the firings, Gonzales told reporters he was aware that some of the dismissals were being discussed but was not involved in them.

"I knew my chief of staff was involved in the process of determining who were the weak performers — where were the districts around the country where we could do better for the people in that district, and that's what I knew," Gonzales said last week. "But that is in essence what I knew about the process; was not involved in seeing any memos, was not involved in any discussions about what was going on. That's basically what I knew as the attorney general."

Later, he added: "I accept responsibility for everything that happens here within this department. But when you have 110,000 people working in the department, obviously there are going to be decisions that I'm not aware of in real time. Many decisions are delegated."

The documents were released Friday night, a few hours after Sampson agreed to testify at a Senate inquiry next week into the firings of eight U.S. attorneys last year.

Earlier Friday, a staunch White House ally, Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record), summoned White House counsel Fred Fielding to Capitol Hill and told him he wanted "no surprises."

"I told him, 'Everything you can release, please release. We need to know what the facts are,'" Cornyn said.

Sampson will appear Thursday at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, his attorney said. His appearance will mark the first congressional testimony by a Justice Department aide since the release of thousands of documents that show the firings were orchestrated, in part, by the White House.

Sampson "looks forward to answering the committee's questions," wrote his attorney, Brad Berenson, in a two-paragraph letter to Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), D-Vt., and the panel's top Republican, Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania.

"We trust that his decision to do so will satisfy the need of the Congress to obtain information from him concerning the requested resignations of the United States attorneys," Berenson wrote.

E-mails between the White House and the Justice Department, dating back to the weeks immediately after the 2004 presidential election, show Sampson was heavily engaged in deciding how many prosecutors would be replaced, and which ones. The Bush administration maintains the dismissals of the eight political appointees were proper.

Democrats, however, question whether the eight were selected because they were not seen as, in Sampson's words, "loyal Bushies."

"He was right at the center of things," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who is leading the inquiry into the firings, said of Sampson. "He has said publicly that what others have said is not how it happened. ... He contradicts DOJ."

Schumer said he hoped Sampson would provide more detail about who initiated the firings and whether they were politically motivated. ___

Associated Press writer Laurie Kellman contributed to this report.

gunns
03-23-2007, 10:48 PM
IMO, I would eliminate the probably. Also IMO he's another scapegoat. What I do wonder about is how this administration found so many to do their bidding....and take the heat without squealing....Gonzo's, Libby, Powell, etc.

Spider
03-23-2007, 10:55 PM
I for one , am shocked ........ you could knock me over with a feather , never ever saw this coming ........ ok sarcasm switch is off

broncocalijohn
03-23-2007, 11:06 PM
They should have just come out and said that the 8 didnt fit their own view. Hell, Clinton dumped 93 judges w/o a peep. THe aftermath is killing the AG and Rove. I am sooooo glad I didnt vote for him last election (Dont get excited libs, I went 3rd party last election). Can I get a Reagan Republican with strong stance on anti illegal immigration next election?

Bronco Bob
03-23-2007, 11:25 PM
They should have just come out and said that the 8 didnt fit their own view.

If it is a matter of telling the truth or telling a lie, Bushco opts for the lie every time.


Hell, Clinton dumped 93 judges w/o a peep.


There were plenty of peeps. You just need to pay more attention.

Blueflame
03-23-2007, 11:44 PM
They should have just come out and said that the 8 didnt fit their own view. Hell, Clinton dumped 93 judges w/o a peep. THe aftermath is killing the AG and Rove. I am sooooo glad I didnt vote for him last election (Dont get excited libs, I went 3rd party last election). Can I get a Reagan Republican with strong stance on anti illegal immigration next election?

It's not the replacement of the U.S. Attorneys that is unusual; it's the timing. It is totally normal and customary for an incoming newly-elected president to dismiss the old administration's attorneys and appoint his own new ones. And Bush did this as well. What isn't normal or customary is for an administration to fire some of its own appointees, apparently because they weren't willing to put partisanship above doing the job they were hired to do (McKay, Iglesias, Lam).

TailgateNut
03-24-2007, 09:03 PM
I'm sure we'll hear quite a bit more of the "93 firings" talking point from the backers of the party of corruption. Just clueless as to the normal and abnormal actions, and why we need to investigate further.
It may not make an immediate change, but we may prevent future presidents from advocating, supporting and in many instances planning these types of actions which on the surface seem quite benign, but when factoring the effects on our judicial system, may well border on criminal acts.

Blueflame
03-24-2007, 11:45 PM
A little background history on one of the 8 fired US Attorneys...

Excerpts from the article:
"The documents suggest the former U.S. attorney's Republican star was rising as recently as last August, when a high-ranking Justice Department official tried to grease his path to a federal judgeship, saying "it's highly unlikely that we could do better in Seattle." Barely a month later, on Sept. 13, that same official - the attorney general's now former chief of staff, Kyle Sampson - put McKay on a list of U.S. attorneys to be fired by the end of the year."

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"As McKay pushed the LInX program last summer, a commission of three Republicans and three Democrats was vetting potential replacements for Seattle U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour.

Many figured McKay, a President Bush appointee who had served for five years as the Justice Department's top lawyer in Western Washington, would get the job. He was a supporter of the Patriot Act and his office had won terrorism convictions - he himself had handled the sentencing and appeal of "millennium bomber" Ahmed Ressam. He was well-loved by law enforcement, and he had been the top litigator in a highly regarded Seattle law firm.

Plus, his brother Mike had chaired Bush's campaigns in the state.

But when the commission named three potential nominees in early August, McKay wasn't on the list.

He was stunned. A close friend in the White House counsel's office - McKay won't say who - told him the administration believed Republican members of the judicial selection commission opposed him for not diligently investigating claims of voter fraud during the 2004 governor's election, which Republican Dino Rossi lost by 129 votes after two recounts."

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"In Washington, the two Democratic senators have an agreement with the Bush administration that is designed to remove politics from the appointment of judges. If Bush nominates someone selected by a bipartisan commission, the senators will support that person's confirmation.

The senators name the Democratic members of such commissions. The senior GOP congressman in the state, Hastings, picks the Republicans.

Hastings represents a largely rural district in central Washington, and many of his constituents were angry about Rossi's loss to Chris Gregoire in the 2004 governor's race. Ed Cassidy, then his chief of staff, called McKay in late 2004 or early '05 to check whether McKay was investigating; that call is expected to be the subject of an ethics investigation in the House.

Last spring, Hastings appointed J. Vander Stoep, an old friend who had served on previous judicial selection commissions, as co-chairman of the one vetting Coughenour's potential replacements. Vander Stoep was a top adviser to Rossi's campaign."

Much more at the link....

http://www.komotv.com/news/6685087.html

alkemical
03-27-2007, 02:42 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54861

Embattled AG now accused in teen sex scandal 'cover-up'
Attorney General Gonzales among officials who allegedly ignored abuse of minor boys

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, both already under siege for other matters, are now being accused of failing to prosecute officers of the Texas Youth Commission after a Texas Ranger investigation documented that guards and administrators were sexually abusing the institution's teenage boy inmates.

Among the charges in the Texas Ranger report were that administrators would rouse boys from their sleep for the purpose of conducting all-night sex parties.

Bronco Bob
03-27-2007, 03:01 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54861

Embattled AG now accused in teen sex scandal 'cover-up'
Attorney General Gonzales among officials who allegedly ignored abuse of minor boys

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, both already under siege for other matters, are now being accused of failing to prosecute officers of the Texas Youth Commission after a Texas Ranger investigation documented that guards and administrators were sexually abusing the institution's teenage boy inmates.

Among the charges in the Texas Ranger report were that administrators would rouse boys from their sleep for the purpose of conducting all-night sex parties.

Ironically the reason Gonzales gave recently for staying in office is he is working to protect the children.

Bronco_Beerslug
03-27-2007, 03:38 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54861

Embattled AG now accused in teen sex scandal 'cover-up'
Attorney General Gonzales among officials who allegedly ignored abuse of minor boys

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, both already under siege for other matters, are now being accused of failing to prosecute officers of the Texas Youth Commission after a Texas Ranger investigation documented that guards and administrators were sexually abusing the institution's teenage boy inmates.

Among the charges in the Texas Ranger report were that administrators would rouse boys from their sleep for the purpose of conducting all-night sex parties.
Geeezus! Bush has surrounded himself with these moral bastions of the world.

Dudeskey
03-27-2007, 03:52 PM
Gonzo = Yet another fallguy for Mr. Rove

alkemical
03-27-2007, 04:02 PM
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Blueflame
03-27-2007, 05:12 PM
Speaking of child abuse, what ever happened to the Rep. Foley scandal? It seems to have vanished down the "memory hole"....

Cito Pelon
03-27-2007, 07:12 PM
IMO, I would eliminate the probably. Also IMO he's another scapegoat. What I do wonder about is how this administration found so many to do their bidding....and take the heat without squealing....Gonzo's, Libby, Powell, etc.

The rewards were there for the Bush Insiders. The Bush politico-business enterprise has been dishing them out for about 90 years.

Myself, I think Congress should do their best to imprison every one of them they can. It's time to show who's boss, the American populace, or these rich, privileged punks.

alkemical
03-30-2007, 04:39 PM
House Dems to Question DoJ Officials in Private (http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002923.php)


House Dems to Question DoJ Officials in Private
By Paul Kiel - March 30, 2007, 9:14 AM
The House Judiciary Committee has worked out an agreement to have transcribed interviews with at least eight current and former employees of the Justice Department behind closed doors. The committee said that the deal followed a series of phone and written negotiations.

The first interview will be today with Michael Elston, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty's chief of staff. Following will be interviews with McNulty, Associate Deputy Attorney General David Margolis; the former director of the Executive Office for United States Attorneys Michael Battle; Monica Goodling, the DOJ's liaison to the White House (now on leave); acting Associate Attorney General William Mercer; and Assistant Attorney General William Moschella. Goodling, of course, has already said that she'd plead the Fifth. Congressional interviews are typically not under oath, but false statements are prosecutable (just ask David Safavian and Steven Griles).

Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) and the other leaders have agreed that "investigators would keep the content of the interviews confidential pending consultation with Department officials." It's not clear when or if such a release might come, or if the interviews will be followed by open hearings

TailgateNut
03-31-2007, 11:34 AM
"memory hole"....


Rep! Lot's of scandals have been lost forever in that space.