I'm Having Gut Pains for the Browns...

[BroncoBuff]

It all started for me when those poor bastards held up their "We Forgive You John" signs in Canton a couple years ago. Now this:http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4264/85517246gu8.jpgI cannot imagine the wrenching process the front office undertook to make this payment - which comes right off the top of the cap this year. They signed the Ohio State alum to a big free agent contract a year ago - after he made 2 Pro Bowls in his first four years in the league - and in the midst of yet another wave of Big Browns optimism: Romeo signed his old Super Bowl captain Willie McGinest, Droughns had just broken the 1,000-yard drought, K2 and Braylon were both rehabbing nicely, the stink of Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren was beginning to clear, and Charlie Frye looked like he might be the real deal - a guy who could help them bury the Tim Couch debacle forever.

But then - on the first day of training camp - LeCharles blew out his knee and missed the 2006 season. Last week, news leaked that his rehab has gone horribly wrong, and he'll be out the entire 2007 season too. Droughns never improved and was cut loose for an impossibly over-the-hill Jamal Lewis. Charlie Frye proved to have feet of clay as he 'led' the Browns to a #31 total offense ranking. They just found out K2 might miss the entire 2007 season. The hand-wringing has just started over next month's #3 overall pick. They signed Lennie Friedman to compete for the center position, and - if you can believe it - the Broncos just signed away the #1 RDE on their depth chart, leaving them with Bronco castoffs Nick Eason and Ted Washington starting on their D-Line. You cannot make this stuff up: http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/CLE


We Broncos Fans should so count our blessings. The TD injury odyssey was a heartbreaker, but he was a 6th round pick - and we definitely have glorious memories. Other than that, I cannot recall a single Bronco heartbreak that compares with these poor bastards.

Count me a Browns fan from this day forward. If we can't make it to XLII, I hope they do. "We Forgive You John" ... that is so brutal.

Those poor bastards.

I'm having gut pains.

[Pat Bowlen]

I cannot recall a single Bronco heartbreak that compares with these poor bastards.
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[BroncoBuff]

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Touche, sir - my Adopted Son. But that's a different kind of heartbreak, you know that.

Here's some more of their bad luck. After "The Drive," "The Fumble," and Modell moving to Baltimore and the team going dark for five years, you have the O-Lineman with the flag in his eye, Butch Davis' mental condition, and a draft history that's unthinkable - I wouldn't wish it on even the Raiders:1999 - #1 overall - Tim Couch
2000 - #1 overall - Courtney Brown
2001 - #3 overall - Gerard Warren
2002 - #6 overall - William Green. They started Droughns the last two years - that's all you need to know about Green.
2003 - That Notre Dame center (name?). But the guy can't be too good if they signed Bentley to that cap-buster deal
2004 - #4 (5?) overall - K2 - Out of the 64 games played since he was drafted, he's seen/will see what, 15?
2005 - #5 overall - Braylon Edwards - the holdout, the knee, and who knows what's next? Avoid him like the plague.
Can you even imagine - even in your wildest fantasies - having back-to-back overall #1 picks? Then overall #3, #4 and #5 ... and all these in just six years?!? I don't remember ever drafting that high - ever.

[watermock]

Crushing the patella tendon(s) is actually, IMO, worse than an ACL. I remember when my brother tore up his knee playing flag football when he was brutally tackled...in flag football.

Coach told him to "walk it off"...that's how it was in the old days...I looked at his knee, and it was like his kneecap was skiing. Of course, I didn't know anything about sports medicine...for years he complained and limped...he should of had it fixed I guess.

Hey, after the Brownies cut him we can make him a Brownco. What is so odd is that they seem to carry bad karma even after they leave Cleveland. Look at C. Brown and Warren! How many times do you hear about a player dislocating not one, but both big toes?

One decent year from Courtney and he gets his knee drilled.

[BroncoBuff]

Yeah, patella is the one decending under the kneecap, right? The one they smack for a reflex?

So .... your brother 'walked off' a flag football injury ... and then limped on it for years thereafter? Sounds like a tough SOB.

[watermock]

This was essentially in the era of stone tools regarding knee injuries.

Imagine if Gale Sayers had the arthroscopic tools of today. Or Tony Oliva of the Twins.

It was pretty much one and done in the old days.

I was at the old Met in Minnestoa and Oliva hit a ball so damn hard it never went ten feet off the ground and hit the wall in center field. It was a damn rocket. I still have a Harmon Killebrew 500 mug.

When people hassle me about being a Twins or Viking fan it goes Way Way Back...so I could give a ****.

[Atlas]

Where did all this bad luck start???

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[watermock]

Second, both the Twins and HornHeads are in opposite conferences to the Broncos and Rockies.

[watermock]

Where did all this bad luck start???

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I think the bad karma begain when the team was moved to Ratcrap land.

If any team deserved bad karma, it was Baltimore. Maybe the Gods had too much to drink and mixed them up.

[watermock]

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If Pubes and hit the goal post Karlisjumped that high at the combine they would of been first rounders.

You can see the Brownie saying "wide right"...to this day I'm unsure if that kick was good. People say it's the camera angle, but I still consider it an act of God.

[Odysseus]

Browns are miserable team where there is always a cloud circling.

[Atlas]

Browns are miserable team where there is always a cloud circling.
I was at this guys website the other day and he was talking about the Browns games that he had and this is what I said to him.

All the Brown games I have have their own special names.

I have "the begining" (81); "the 2nd time" (83); "The I see a trend" (84); "the Drive" (86); "The Fumble" (87); "The beat down" (88; "The Massacre" (89); "The slap down" (91); "The knock down" (93); "The upset" (94); "The thank God Elway is gone but Browns still lose" (00); "The OMG I can't believe it's happening again" (03); "The Please take our money and women and just leave" (06).

I imagine the Broncos have their own special little place in every Brown fans heart.

This is the remark he left for me.

Ouch...why didn't you just drive to Ohio and jam a spoon in my eye. It would've been less painful.

Brownie fan is just too easy of a target and they know it.

[watermock]

Originally Posted by brownie fan
Ouch...why didn't you just drive to Ohio and jam a spoon in my eye. It would've been less painful.

I honestly have pity for Brownie fan. Just not at our expense. We don't know how good we have it. We didn't bail when a referendum for for a new stadium failed. Denver paid that sucker off well ahead of schedule. The sat empty handed for several years...the NFL should of given them a new team as soon as they approved a new stadium.

It's like there are 70,999 Lot's (the biblical Lot, not parking lots)...The fans are fully aware that they are our biatches but the run of bad luck is so inprobable it defies reason. Remember the Doors song "Born under a bad sign" They are actually good fans with a propensity for doggie tooth cleaners.

When Elway was pelted with thousands of dog bones you just had to laugh...god they hated the Duke.

How can a team draft consensus elite draft choice and watch them all just suck or get repeated injuries.

Go down the list..Tim Couch, Courney Brown, Gerald Warren...the Soulja...Charles Bentley...

It's time to bring back Shiatty Shotty...rinse and repeat.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I was at this guys website the other day and he was talking about the Browns games that he had and this is what I said to him.



This is the remark he left for me.



Brownie fan is just too easy of a target and they know it.

Hilarious!

[BroncoBuff]

Of all the calamities and bad luck player injuries, flame-outs and disappointments I listed there - let's focus on the LEAST discussed insane bad luck occurrence - just for comparison's sake:
Orlando Brown was their #1 offensive lineman when they re-joined the NFL. In fact, he was THE HIGHEST PAID LINEMAN IN THE NFL when that official's flag hit his eye ... and I don't think he ever played again, to speak of. http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/5-11-2001-3278.asp If that hapened to the Broncos best lineman - assumiong we ever even had the highest-paid lineman in the league to suffer such a loss ... we'd still be talking about it every.single.day. Every.single.day. And yet, Orlando Brown was the LEAST of their myriad bad luck player injuries, flame-outs and disapointments.

I can't even imagine having the LEAST of their on-field calamities ... I question whether I wouldda made it through 4 years of no Broncos - then have all this happen - then watch the old Broncos win the Super Bowl the year after we finally start playing again - then, actually drive to Canton and hold up "We Forgive You John" signs.

The Red Sox and Cubs got nothing on these poor bastards.

[baja]

Well we had our share of tragedy this year with D will and Nash

[Hogan11]

I used to be very hard on the Cleveland fans...then Model booked for Baltimore.

Not one Browns fan I know of followed the team to Baltimore...not one and believe me, I know a bunch of them. I'm not going to go into all that those fans delt with when their franchise was stolen from them, but I will say I learned much about true fandom from them at that time...hard lessons that I'd experience firsthand for myself in 2004 (F*** You MLB).

When they got their team back, I was just as happy as they were...no fans should be put through what they went through. Since then, I've kinda been indifferent towards them...easy to do since they rarely pose a real threat to where Denver needs to go.

[watermock]

Christ...I forgot about Brown. The odds of that are absurd, yet alone for another Brownie down.

Having murderers running loose around incompetent cops disgusts me. They have the driver. Turn the screws.

Nash is different...sad, but when someone dies due to a congenital heart condition, it's different to me. It's not that he wasn't a starter whatsoever, it's that God took him, DWill was murdered.

[BroncoBuff]

Not one Browns fan I know of followed the team to Baltimore...not one and believe me, I know a bunch of them. I'm not going to go into all that those fans delt with when their franchise was stolen from them, but I will say I learned much about true fandom from them at that time.
I agree with your admiration of their loyalty ... and yes, those are valuable lessons. Like I said, I don't know what I wouldda done had our owner moved the Broncos ... and the year after we get an expansion Broncos team back - the OLD Broncos win the Super Bowl.
What's the line? "These are the times that try men's souls."


Well we had our share of tragedy this year with D will and Nash
Yes, no doubt - of course. But that's different - that's Brian Piccolo type tragedy - off the field and not self-inflicted idiocy, like that idiot K2 on his mini-bike.



I have decided that I am a BROWNS FAN NOW. If the Broncos can't make the SB, I'm pulling for Cleveland. In fact, I'm gonna buy a Browns t-shirt right now to wear when I walk the dog.

[BroncoBuff]

Shakespeare's tragedies have nothing on the Browns.

Can you believe they signed our old castoff LENNIE FRIEDMAN to compete with Eagles castoff Hank Fraley to replace LeCharles?!

And can you believe their starting D-Line now includes TWO MORE Broncos castoffs - Nick Eason and Ted Washington?! Eason replaces McKinley - whom we just signed!


You couldn't make this stuff up.