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Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 03:47 PM
She loves to tax, Forgive's other countries debt, but damn sure gets money from the middle class. She was all over terrorism before 9/11, tried to disban the army.

Terrorism (Pre 9/11 with Clinton as Prez)

09/14/2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force Y
04/18/1996 Comprehensive Terrorism Prevention Act N
03/14/1996 Antiterrorism bill N

Taxes

05/21/1996 Repeal Gas Tax bill N
05/16/1996 FY1997 Appropriations Act Treasury, Postal Service N
10/26/1995 Budget Reconciliation bill N
06/29/1995 Budget FY2006 Appropriations Resolution N
06/29/1995 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations and Rescissions N
05/18/1995 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations and Rescissions N
05/18/1995 Budget FY1996 Appropriations Resolution N
04/05/1995 Contract With America Tax Relief Act of 1995 N
03/16/1995 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations and Rescissions N
01/26/1995 Balanced Budget Proposed Constitutional Amendment N
08/17/1994 Non-Emergency Spending Provisions N
07/21/1994 Entitlement Spending Caps N
01/05/2007 Pay-As-You-Go Bill Y
07/29/2006 Death/Estate and Minimum Wage Bill of 2006 N
06/22/2006 Line Item Veto bill N
06/22/2006 Death/Estate Tax Amendment N
05/10/2006 Tax Reconciliation bill N
02/01/2006 Budget Reconciliation Adoption N
12/19/2005 Budget Reconciliation bill N
12/08/2005 Tax Relief Extension Reconciliation Act of 2005 N
11/18/2005 Budget Reconciliation Bill N
04/28/2005 Budget FY2006 Appropriations Resolution N
04/13/2005 Death/Estate Tax Repeal Permanency Act of 2005 N
03/17/2005 Budget FY2006 Appropriations Resolution N
10/07/2004 JOBS (Jumpstart Our Business Strength) N
09/23/2004 Increased Child Tax Credit bill N
05/20/2004 Child Credit Preservation and Expansion Act of 2004 N
05/05/2004 Middle-Class Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2004 N
04/28/2004 Marriage Penalty Tax bill N
01/28/2004 Farmer Bankruptcy bill N
10/16/2003 Iraqi Debt Forgiveness Y
09/17/2003 Charitable Contributions bill Y
07/16/2003 State Department FY2004-2005 Authorizations bill Y
06/27/2003 Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 Y
06/19/2003 Taxpayer Protection and IRS Accountability Act of 2003 N
05/23/2003 Jobs and Economic Growth bill N
05/09/2003 Jobs and Economic Growth bill N
04/11/2003 Congressional Budget for fiscal year 2004 N
03/20/2002 Budget Resolution, FY 2003 N
05/26/2001 Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act, 2001 N
05/16/2001 Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act, 2001 N
05/09/2001 Fiscal Year 2002 Budget Resolution N
09/13/2000 Marriage Tax Relief Bill N
09/07/2000 Death/Estate Tax Elimination Act of 2000 N
07/20/2000 Marriage Tax Relief Bill N
06/09/2000 Death/Estate Tax Substitute Amendment Y
06/09/2000 Death/Estate Tax Elimination Act of 2000 N
05/10/2000 Internet Nondiscrimination Act Y
04/13/2000 Congressional Budget resolution FY 2001 N
03/23/2000 Congressional Budget resolution FY 2001 N
03/09/2000 Small Business Tax Fairness Act of 2000 N
02/10/2000 Marriage Penalty Tax bill N
08/05/1999 Financial Freedom Act of 1999 N
07/22/1999 Financial Freedom Act of 1999 N
06/10/1999 Legislative Branch Appropriations Act, 2000 N
05/05/1999 Bankruptcy Reform bill N
04/14/1999 Congressional Budget Resolution, FY 2000 N
03/25/1999 Congressional Budget Resolution, FY 2000 NV
10/09/1998 Bankruptcy Reform bill N
09/26/1998 Tax Cut bill N
06/17/1998 Tax Code Termination bill N
06/05/1998 Budget Resolution FY98 N
05/13/1998 Enhance Banking Flexibility Amendment N
05/13/1998 Financial Services Act of 1998 N
04/30/1998 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations bill N
04/22/1998 Tax Limitation Amendment N
07/31/1997 Budget Reconciliation Bill Y
07/30/1997 Budget Reconciliation bill Y
06/26/1997 Budget Reconciliation Bill N
06/25/1997 Budget Reconciliation bill N
06/05/1997 Budget Resolution FY1999-2000 N
05/21/1997 Budget Resolution FY1999-2000 N
03/12/1997 Balanced Budget Request resolution N
06/12/1996 FY1997 Appropriations Act Treasury, Postal Service N
05/22/1996 Minimum Wage Increase bill Y

Immigration
03/20/1996 Denying Public Education to Undocumented Immigrants N
03/20/1996 Immigrant English Proficiency Amendment N
07/22/1994 Prohibiting Benefits to Undocumented Immigrants N
09/21/2006 Immigration Law Enforcement Act of 2006 N
09/14/2006 Secure Fence Act of 2006 N
12/16/2005 Border Security bill N
02/10/2005 Real ID Act of 2005 N

Military (Clinton years-pre 9/11)
06/25/1997 Defense Department FY98-99 Authorization bill N
06/24/1997 Bosnia Deployment Termination Amendment N
06/23/1997 Bosnia Deployment Extension Substitute Amendment N
06/23/1997 Border Defense Personnel Amendment N
06/23/1997 B-2 Bomber Program Termination Amendment Y
06/19/1997 Overseas Military Facilities Abortion Amendment Y
09/10/1996 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997 N
05/22/1996 Disclosure of Intelligence Spending Amendment Y
05/15/1996 Cooperative Threat Reduction Program Amendment N
05/15/1996 Former Soviet Union Defense Conversion Amendment N
05/15/1996 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997 N
01/24/1996 Authorization bill FY96, Defense Department N

Rohirrim
03-21-2007, 03:52 PM
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but if George Washington was alive today, he would want to disband the army. He considered standing armies a threat to democracy.

Bronco_Beerslug
03-21-2007, 04:07 PM
You ought to try reading what you post before putting it in black and white. She voted for "pay as you go" which would balance the budget, MW increase (hadn't been one in over 10 years of Republican cartel), Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004, Iraqi Debt Forgiveness (Bush's bill), on and on.

defenseman
03-21-2007, 04:11 PM
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but if George Washington was alive today, he would want to disband the army. He considered standing armies a threat to democracy.

the world, being what it is today, Washington would have a standing army and probably a hell of alot more. The world, is a bit different than back in 1776 wouldn't you say?...dman

Barry Ramey
03-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Pelosi is also for giving illegals as many rights as any U.S. citizen. She's not alone in that dept. Would make one wonder you give illegals all the rights that everyone else has that are citizens, what's the point of them becoming a U.S. citizen then?

Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 04:31 PM
You ought to try reading what you post before putting it in black and white. She voted for "pay as you go" which would balance the budget, MW increase (hadn't been one in over 10 years of Republican cartel), Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004, Iraqi Debt Forgiveness (Bush's bill), on and on.


How do you explain the democrat's saying there strong on terrorism when Bill Clinton put plans before her, and she voted them down???? Answer that first and then well move on to your other points

defenseman
03-21-2007, 04:34 PM
Pelosi is also for giving illegals as many rights as any U.S. citizen. She's not alone in that dept. Would make one wonder you give illegals all the rights that everyone else has that are citizens, what's the point of them becoming a U.S. citizen then?

Agreed. And, it is absolutely F***** up...dman

Rohirrim
03-21-2007, 04:38 PM
the world, being what it is today, Washington would have a standing army and probably a hell of alot more. The world, is a bit different than back in 1776 wouldn't you say?...dman

When is the last time we needed a standing army to protect us from invasion?

Bronco_Beerslug
03-21-2007, 05:09 PM
How do you explain the democrat's saying there strong on terrorism when Bill Clinton put plans before her, and she voted them down???? Answer that first and then well move on to your other points

:welcome:

You are the one that posted this crap below...

She loves to tax, Forgive's other countries debt, but damn sure gets money from the middle class. She was all over terrorism before 9/11, tried to disban the army.Now, since you did, show where she "Forgive's other countries debt", "but damn sure gets money from the middle class", "tried to disban the army".

Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 05:29 PM
The "all over terrorism before 9/11" was a joke, the rest of your post I don't understand, remember I am dense. Please Help.

Garcia Bronco
03-21-2007, 05:47 PM
When is the last time we needed a standing army to protect us from invasion?

September 11th, 2001

Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 06:11 PM
She loves to help family's. If we dont elect a GOP pres or get control back of the house, what will the taxe's look like in 2009?? Very scary!!

09/23/2004 Increased Child Tax Credit bill N
05/20/2004 Child Credit Preservation and Expansion Act of 2004 N
05/05/2004 Middle-Class Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2004 N
04/28/2004 Marriage Penalty Tax bill N

Bronco Bob
03-21-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Rohirrim View Post
When is the last time we needed a standing army to protect us from invasion?


September 11th, 2001

A lot of good it did us. Seeing as with the mightiest military in the world
they still got through untouched. If not for some brave cilivians, who
knows what the fourth plane would have done.

Spider
03-21-2007, 06:17 PM
She loves to help family's. If we dont elect a GOP pres or get control back of the house, what will the taxe's look like in 2009?? Very scary!!

09/23/2004 Increased Child Tax Credit bill N
05/20/2004 Child Credit Preservation and Expansion Act of 2004 N
05/05/2004 Middle-Class Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2004 N
04/28/2004 Marriage Penalty Tax bill N

good grief ... get Reps back in charge ? WTF are you smoking ?
Budget way out of control , CIA agent outed , war we didnt need , Corruption and scandals out the ass , perhaps you was drunk during the Clinton years .....But money was flowing

Spider
03-21-2007, 06:22 PM
September 11th, 2001

pick a different date , that one wasnt to well defensed .............

Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 06:28 PM
I'm sorry spide, Budget your right, CIA agent once again was on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was outed so I conclude she was as much a spy as 007, corruption and scandel didn't happen during the clinton years? good luck with that, Money was flowing during the clinton years due to Ronald Reagon. But the thread was about the people you want in control and how they vote, please show me where the Head of the House is helping the common man in anything she has ever done. Considering you have many kids, and she votes no on child tax credits, what will that do to you?

Bronco Bob
03-21-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm sorry spide, Budget your right, CIA agent once again was on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was outed

You need to recheck your dates.

Spider
03-21-2007, 06:41 PM
I'm sorry spide, Budget your right, CIA agent once again was on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was outed so I conclude she was as much a spy as 007, corruption and scandel didn't happen during the clinton years? good luck with that, Money was flowing during the clinton years due to Ronald Reagon. But the thread was about the people you want in control and how they vote, please show me where the Head of the House is helping the common man in anything she has ever done. Considering you have many kids, and she votes no on child tax credits, what will that do to you?

wow ... just wow , she went on the cover of Vanity fair in 07 when she was exposed in 03 , ..........money was flowing , but not because of reagan , I would vote no on tax cuts for Kids myself , just cause I have kids doesnt give me a free ride , if I cant afford them , I shouldnt have them , I am not bragging but my Check is a tad bit short this week it is only 1,789.47 ......I use the tax credit of my Kids , saved me 2 grand ......... I get more of a tax break on clothes , food , tools , Chains , Boomers , permits etc ........

Stormontheplains
03-21-2007, 06:41 PM
You are correct Bob, sorry. I will counterpoint to the fact the she was a real NOC or spy with this

"AMERICAN EMBASSY ATHENS ST, APO NEW YORK NY 09255."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_0>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP> He adds that a former senior American diplomat in Athens who remembered Plame told the Tribune that "he had been aware that Plame, who was posing as a junior consular officer, really worked for the CIA." According to Crewdson, the former senior diplomat also recalled "that she served as one of the 'control officers' coordinating the visit of President George H.W. Bush to Greece and Turkey in July 1991." The Tribune also reported that "after the completion of her Athens tour, the CIA reportedly sent Plame to study in Europe." Unidentified CIA veterans reportedly told Crewdson that operatives who work in an embassy would have "diplomatic cover" and that their identities would be known to both "friendly and opposition intelligence services alike":
But several CIA veterans questioned how someone with an embassy background could have successfully passed herself off as a private-sector consultant with no government connections. Genuine NOCs, a CIA veteran said, "never use an official address. If she had [a diplomatic] address, her whole cover's completely phony. I used to run NOCs. I was in an embassy. I'd go out and meet them, clandestine meetings. I'd pay them cash to run assets or take trips. I'd give them a big bundle of cash. But they could never use an embassy address, ever." Another CIA veteran with 20 years of service agreed that "the key is the [embassy] address. That is completely unacceptable for an NOC. She wasn't an NOC, period." After Plame was transferred back to CIA headquarters in the mid-1990s, she continued to pass herself off as a private energy consultant. But the first CIA veteran noted: "You never let a true NOC go into an official facility. You don't drive into headquarters with your car, ever." A senior U.S. intelligence official, who like the others quoted in this article spoke on condition of anonymity, noted that Plame "may not be alone in that category, so I don't want to suggest she was the only one. But it would be a fair assumption that a true-blue NOC is not someone who has a headquarters job at any point or an embassy job at any point."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_1>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP>

Spider
03-21-2007, 06:47 PM
You are correct Bob, sorry. I will counterpoint to the fact the she was a real NOC or spy with this

"AMERICAN EMBASSY ATHENS ST, APO NEW YORK NY 09255."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_0>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP> He adds that a former senior American diplomat in Athens who remembered Plame told the Tribune that "he had been aware that Plame, who was posing as a junior consular officer, really worked for the CIA." According to Crewdson, the former senior diplomat also recalled "that she served as one of the 'control officers' coordinating the visit of President George H.W. Bush to Greece and Turkey in July 1991." The Tribune also reported that "after the completion of her Athens tour, the CIA reportedly sent Plame to study in Europe." Unidentified CIA veterans reportedly told Crewdson that operatives who work in an embassy would have "diplomatic cover" and that their identities would be known to both "friendly and opposition intelligence services alike":
But several CIA veterans questioned how someone with an embassy background could have successfully passed herself off as a private-sector consultant with no government connections. Genuine NOCs, a CIA veteran said, "never use an official address. If she had [a diplomatic] address, her whole cover's completely phony. I used to run NOCs. I was in an embassy. I'd go out and meet them, clandestine meetings. I'd pay them cash to run assets or take trips. I'd give them a big bundle of cash. But they could never use an embassy address, ever." Another CIA veteran with 20 years of service agreed that "the key is the [embassy] address. That is completely unacceptable for an NOC. She wasn't an NOC, period." After Plame was transferred back to CIA headquarters in the mid-1990s, she continued to pass herself off as a private energy consultant. But the first CIA veteran noted: "You never let a true NOC go into an official facility. You don't drive into headquarters with your car, ever." A senior U.S. intelligence official, who like the others quoted in this article spoke on condition of anonymity, noted that Plame "may not be alone in that category, so I don't want to suggest she was the only one. But it would be a fair assumption that a true-blue NOC is not someone who has a headquarters job at any point or an embassy job at any point."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_1>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP>


if all of that is true , then why did Libby lie ? oh wait Wikipedia ....... never mind

Bronco Bob
03-21-2007, 09:45 PM
You are correct Bob, sorry. I will counterpoint to the fact the she was a real NOC or spy with this

"AMERICAN EMBASSY ATHENS ST, APO NEW YORK NY 09255."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_0>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP> He adds that a former senior American diplomat in Athens who remembered Plame told the Tribune that "he had been aware that Plame, who was posing as a junior consular officer, really worked for the CIA." According to Crewdson, the former senior diplomat also recalled "that she served as one of the 'control officers' coordinating the visit of President George H.W. Bush to Greece and Turkey in July 1991." The Tribune also reported that "after the completion of her Athens tour, the CIA reportedly sent Plame to study in Europe." Unidentified CIA veterans reportedly told Crewdson that operatives who work in an embassy would have "diplomatic cover" and that their identities would be known to both "friendly and opposition intelligence services alike":
But several CIA veterans questioned how someone with an embassy background could have successfully passed herself off as a private-sector consultant with no government connections. Genuine NOCs, a CIA veteran said, "never use an official address. If she had [a diplomatic] address, her whole cover's completely phony. I used to run NOCs. I was in an embassy. I'd go out and meet them, clandestine meetings. I'd pay them cash to run assets or take trips. I'd give them a big bundle of cash. But they could never use an embassy address, ever." Another CIA veteran with 20 years of service agreed that "the key is the [embassy] address. That is completely unacceptable for an NOC. She wasn't an NOC, period." After Plame was transferred back to CIA headquarters in the mid-1990s, she continued to pass herself off as a private energy consultant. But the first CIA veteran noted: "You never let a true NOC go into an official facility. You don't drive into headquarters with your car, ever." A senior U.S. intelligence official, who like the others quoted in this article spoke on condition of anonymity, noted that Plame "may not be alone in that category, so I don't want to suggest she was the only one. But it would be a fair assumption that a true-blue NOC is not someone who has a headquarters job at any point or an embassy job at any point."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-Crewdson_1>[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#_note-Crewdson)</SUP>


She thought she was a covert operative. The CIA thought she was a covert
operative. Dick Cheney and Karl Rove thought she was a covert operative,
or else they wouldn't have felt the need to expose her to get back at her
husband.
But I guess your source knows more than the actual people involved because
you found some article on the internet written by who knows who.