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03-19-2007, 06:03 AM
Read this article and then read what a Raider fan thought of it. Pretty hilarious. I gotta admit raider fan made a lot of good points.
Raiders should trade down, stockpile picks
By Andy Targovnik on March 15, 2007 12:18 AM
SoCAls link: http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/03/raiders-should-tradedown150307.html
It was early 1997. Bill Parcells had just taken over for Rich Kotite, the man who was responsible for the mess that the New York Jets found themselves in.
New York had just come off its two worst years in franchise history, winning a total of four games during the 1995 and 1996 seasons.
Because Kotite had paid too many mediocre players like quarterback Neil O'Donnell huge sums of money, the Jets were hamstrung by the salary cap. They also owned the No. 1 pick in the '97 draft.
But just two seasons later, the Jets were only 30 minutes of football away from beating the Denver Broncos and going to the Super Bowl.
The 2007 Oakland Raiders find themselves in an eerily similar situation to that 1997 Jets squad. The question is, can the Silver and Black turn things around the same way?
Of course, there is only one Bill Parcells, but Raiders owner Al Davis should take note of how the legendary coach transformed the Jets from a laughingstock to a contender.
To start, Parcells could have drafted left tackle Orlando Pace with the top pick, and had he done that, who could have argued?
But the Jets had so many more holes to fill than just one specific position.
In addition, because Pace would demand a huge amount of money -- too much for a team trying to fix a disastrous salary cap situation -- Parcells traded the pick to the St. Louis Rams and received the Rams' first-, third-, fourth- and seventh-round selections.
Two of those picks turned out to be linebacker James Farrior and nose tackle Jason Ferguson, both of whom were major contributors to the team for a number of seasons.
Now, had Peyton Manning opted to enter the draft that year, Parcells may well have not traded the pick because Manning was and still is a franchise-changing player. But Manning's decision to stay at Tennessee made Parcells' decision an easy one.
In addition to managing the draft well, Parcells jettisoned aging veterans and got back whatever he could -- mainly younger and cheaper players.
That's what bad teams with salary-cap problems have to do.
Therefore, the Raiders should trade or release as many overpaid veterans as possible. That includes dealing Randy Moss for a ham sandwich, if that's all they can get in return. At minimum, it'll clear cap space.
And because it is unlikely that there is Manning-caliber quarterback in this year's draft, the Raiders would be wise to trade the top pick for a package of draft choices.
Of course, not all the selections will turn out well, but throw enough "you know what" against the wall, and some of it eventually sticks.
Not only have many solid NFL players -- like the abovementioned Ferguson (seventh round) -- been drafted late, but if a team gets lucky, it just might land somebody of Curtis Martin's (third round) or Tom Brady's (sixth round) ilk.
Unfortunately for Raiders fans, though, Al Davis likely won't follow the franchise-building path of trading down. He'll keep trying for that quick fix, thus continuing to run his once-proud organization into the ground.
wtf kinda article is this? i RARELY bash an article but first of all YOU CONTRIDICTED YOURSELF BY SAYING PACELLS WOULDNT HAVE TRADED THE PICK AWAY SO HE COULD GET THE FRANCHISE CHANGING PLAYER IN PEYTON MANNING. what the hell do u think JaMarcus is?!?!?!?! DID U WATCH THE WORKOUTS? DID U SEE HOW EVERY EXPERT, CURRENT PRO, FORMER PRO, SCOUT, GENERAL MANAGERS, AND EVEN LANE KIFFIN HIMSELF COULD ONLY SAY THE GREATEST THINGS ABOUT HIM. including mike mayock: "this was the most impressive workout i've ever seen by a quarterback". todd mcshay "he is the best quarterback i've ever seen coming out of college". Lane Kiffin "all of his throws were professional and he was truly impressive". and then Al Davis was bashed by saying "unfortunately for raiders fans though al davis likely wont follow the franchise building path of trading down, he'll keep trying for that quick fix, thus continuing to run his once proud organization into the ground"... F**K YOU. DID THE COLTS TRADE DOWN???? NO! AND THEY GOT #1 QB PEYTON MANNING. AND THEN U MENTION A TEAM (THE JETS) THAT DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE SUPERBOWL...AND WHY DIDNT THEY WIN? BECAUSE THEIR QB SUCKED. HE GOT HIS ASS KICKED BY JOHN ELWAY...WHO WAS ALSO THE #1 PICK!!! anyways...JaMarcus ONLY RAN .07 SLOWER THEN HEISMAN WINNER TROY SMITH. .07 is really nothing! this is the line that really hits me: "its unlikely there is a manning-caliber qb in this year's draft, the raiders would be wise to trade the top pick". MANNING NEVER WON A BOWL GAME AND HE WAS BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT A MILLION THINGS AND PPL DIDNT KNOW WHO WAS BETTER, HIM OR RYAN FREAKING LEAF! at least we KNOW JaMarcus is the best qb in the draft now in the draft and will be a top 5 qb in his 2nd full season of playing. So writer andy, you can personally email me and tell me the reasons why JaMarcus isnt good. please. I HATE BASHING ARTICLES. but if you are going to try to imitate a team we're trying to build after, at least imitate a team that won the superbowl. (or in this case a team that got to a superbowl).
Raiders should trade down, stockpile picks
By Andy Targovnik on March 15, 2007 12:18 AM
SoCAls link: http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/03/raiders-should-tradedown150307.html
It was early 1997. Bill Parcells had just taken over for Rich Kotite, the man who was responsible for the mess that the New York Jets found themselves in.
New York had just come off its two worst years in franchise history, winning a total of four games during the 1995 and 1996 seasons.
Because Kotite had paid too many mediocre players like quarterback Neil O'Donnell huge sums of money, the Jets were hamstrung by the salary cap. They also owned the No. 1 pick in the '97 draft.
But just two seasons later, the Jets were only 30 minutes of football away from beating the Denver Broncos and going to the Super Bowl.
The 2007 Oakland Raiders find themselves in an eerily similar situation to that 1997 Jets squad. The question is, can the Silver and Black turn things around the same way?
Of course, there is only one Bill Parcells, but Raiders owner Al Davis should take note of how the legendary coach transformed the Jets from a laughingstock to a contender.
To start, Parcells could have drafted left tackle Orlando Pace with the top pick, and had he done that, who could have argued?
But the Jets had so many more holes to fill than just one specific position.
In addition, because Pace would demand a huge amount of money -- too much for a team trying to fix a disastrous salary cap situation -- Parcells traded the pick to the St. Louis Rams and received the Rams' first-, third-, fourth- and seventh-round selections.
Two of those picks turned out to be linebacker James Farrior and nose tackle Jason Ferguson, both of whom were major contributors to the team for a number of seasons.
Now, had Peyton Manning opted to enter the draft that year, Parcells may well have not traded the pick because Manning was and still is a franchise-changing player. But Manning's decision to stay at Tennessee made Parcells' decision an easy one.
In addition to managing the draft well, Parcells jettisoned aging veterans and got back whatever he could -- mainly younger and cheaper players.
That's what bad teams with salary-cap problems have to do.
Therefore, the Raiders should trade or release as many overpaid veterans as possible. That includes dealing Randy Moss for a ham sandwich, if that's all they can get in return. At minimum, it'll clear cap space.
And because it is unlikely that there is Manning-caliber quarterback in this year's draft, the Raiders would be wise to trade the top pick for a package of draft choices.
Of course, not all the selections will turn out well, but throw enough "you know what" against the wall, and some of it eventually sticks.
Not only have many solid NFL players -- like the abovementioned Ferguson (seventh round) -- been drafted late, but if a team gets lucky, it just might land somebody of Curtis Martin's (third round) or Tom Brady's (sixth round) ilk.
Unfortunately for Raiders fans, though, Al Davis likely won't follow the franchise-building path of trading down. He'll keep trying for that quick fix, thus continuing to run his once-proud organization into the ground.
wtf kinda article is this? i RARELY bash an article but first of all YOU CONTRIDICTED YOURSELF BY SAYING PACELLS WOULDNT HAVE TRADED THE PICK AWAY SO HE COULD GET THE FRANCHISE CHANGING PLAYER IN PEYTON MANNING. what the hell do u think JaMarcus is?!?!?!?! DID U WATCH THE WORKOUTS? DID U SEE HOW EVERY EXPERT, CURRENT PRO, FORMER PRO, SCOUT, GENERAL MANAGERS, AND EVEN LANE KIFFIN HIMSELF COULD ONLY SAY THE GREATEST THINGS ABOUT HIM. including mike mayock: "this was the most impressive workout i've ever seen by a quarterback". todd mcshay "he is the best quarterback i've ever seen coming out of college". Lane Kiffin "all of his throws were professional and he was truly impressive". and then Al Davis was bashed by saying "unfortunately for raiders fans though al davis likely wont follow the franchise building path of trading down, he'll keep trying for that quick fix, thus continuing to run his once proud organization into the ground"... F**K YOU. DID THE COLTS TRADE DOWN???? NO! AND THEY GOT #1 QB PEYTON MANNING. AND THEN U MENTION A TEAM (THE JETS) THAT DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE SUPERBOWL...AND WHY DIDNT THEY WIN? BECAUSE THEIR QB SUCKED. HE GOT HIS ASS KICKED BY JOHN ELWAY...WHO WAS ALSO THE #1 PICK!!! anyways...JaMarcus ONLY RAN .07 SLOWER THEN HEISMAN WINNER TROY SMITH. .07 is really nothing! this is the line that really hits me: "its unlikely there is a manning-caliber qb in this year's draft, the raiders would be wise to trade the top pick". MANNING NEVER WON A BOWL GAME AND HE WAS BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT A MILLION THINGS AND PPL DIDNT KNOW WHO WAS BETTER, HIM OR RYAN FREAKING LEAF! at least we KNOW JaMarcus is the best qb in the draft now in the draft and will be a top 5 qb in his 2nd full season of playing. So writer andy, you can personally email me and tell me the reasons why JaMarcus isnt good. please. I HATE BASHING ARTICLES. but if you are going to try to imitate a team we're trying to build after, at least imitate a team that won the superbowl. (or in this case a team that got to a superbowl).