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Spider
03-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Looks like Clinton wasnt to far off the Mark ...........
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070314/D8NS3NIO0.html

Judge Rules Against Sudan in Bombing
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Mar 14, 2:14 PM (ET)

By SONJA BARISIC



NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - A federal judge said Wednesday that Sudan is responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole but he needs more time to determine damages for the families of the 17 sailors killed when terrorists bombed the ship in 2000.

"There is substantial evidence in this case presented by the expert testimony that the government of Sudan induced the particular bombing of the Cole by virtue of prior actions of the government of Sudan," U.S. District Judge Robert G. Doumar said.

The civil trial started Tuesday in which the victims' relatives tried to prove the terrorist attack couldn't have happened without Sudan's support.

Sudan sought unsuccessfully to dismiss the lawsuit on the grounds that too much time had passed between the bombing and the filing of the lawsuit in 2004. Lawyers representing the Sudanese government declined to comment after Wednesday's ruling.

Doumar said that he would issue a written opinion later to fully explain his ruling. He requested additional paperwork, including tax returns of the sailors killed, to determine the appropriate damages.

"Words can't express the loss my family has gone through," Shalala Swenchonis-Wood, whose brother died, testified Wednesday. "It's not financial, it's not material, it's always the things, the little things you don't see."

Four experts on terrorism, including R. James Woolsey, CIA director from early 1993 to early 1995, also testified in person or by deposition Tuesday to support the families' position that al-Qaida needed the African nation's help to carry out the attack.

"It would not have been as easy - it might have been possible - but it would not have been as easy," Woolsey said in a videotaped deposition, without Sudan providing economic support, places to train and false documents.

The experts testified that Sudan has given safe haven to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network since 1991 - long before Yemeni operatives blasted a 40-foot-hole in the side of the Cole in Yemen's port of Aden on Oct. 12, 2000.

They cited testimony from other trials, a declassified Canadian intelligence report, U.S. State Department reports and their own studies as they testified that Sudan let terrorist training camps operate within its borders and gave al-Qaida members diplomatic passports so they could travel without scrutiny and diplomatic pouches to ship explosives and weapons without being searched.

The United States has listed Sudan as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1993.

Stormontheplains
03-15-2007, 10:34 AM
Whats your point, if they were there and he knew it, he bombed the wrong place, right now you sound like us trying to justify bush's actions. How many terrorist did he catch, 0, how many did he kill, 0.

Spider
03-15-2007, 10:38 AM
Whats your point, if they were there and he knew it, he bombed the wrong place, right now you sound like us trying to justify bush's actions. How many terrorist did he catch, 0, how many did he kill, 0.

point is , The asprin factory was clean , Clinton still had the right country in his sights ........ Clinton wasnt off bombing some country that didnt have anything to do with terrorist attacks ...........

Stormontheplains
03-15-2007, 10:44 AM
no he was just bombing random targets that proved harmless to terrerist and deadly to regular people ie; the janitors at the plant that night. The terrerist would not have the foundation they have without bill clinton. Once again your answer sounds like me saying "They did find on mustard gas container in Iraq, there's your WMD's."

Spider
03-15-2007, 10:48 AM
no he was just bombing random targets that proved harmless to terrerist and deadly to regular people ie; the janitors at the plant that night. The terrerist would not have the foundation they have without bill clinton. Once again your answer sounds like me saying "They did find on mustard gas container in Iraq, there's your WMD's."

LOL nice spin , the entire point is , Sudan is a part of the war on terrorism , Iraq isnt , we both know you can see the difference , you are not stupid.........

Spider
03-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Now if Bush had bombed the wrong building in Afghanistan , no biggie , part of war ....but invading Iraq was so far off the mark , not even in the same ball park Hilarious! .......

Barry Ramey
03-15-2007, 12:08 PM
Geez, talk about pathetic. "He bombed the right country, just the wrong place." Like the Sudan being involved in terrorism isn't freaking new genius and was happening before Clinton. Plus like that stopped the Sudan from being involved in terrorism. I hope you get new Clinton knee pads for Christmas considering how desperate you are to suck him off and defend his amateurish, lame, and half-hearted attempt to do anything about terrorism. I feel sorry for your kids, you know, the ones you don't even raise and not surprised why :thanku:

Spider
03-15-2007, 12:22 PM
Geez, talk about pathetic. "He bombed the right country, just the wrong place." Like the Sudan being involved in terrorism isn't freaking new genius and was happening before Clinton. Plus like that stopped the Sudan from being involved in terrorism. I hope you get new Clinton knee pads for Christmas considering how desperate you are to suck him off and defend his amateurish, lame, and half-hearted attempt to do anything about terrorism. I feel sorry for your kids, you know, the ones you don't even raise and not surprised why :thanku:

LOL pure pathetic spin ................ you know I am right , you know you cant defend Bush and his **** ups anymore , you are tapped out .......... just a swimple spider you are right , I am an idiot will suffice

Spider
03-15-2007, 12:25 PM
Spider:...Please stop posting that picture

Rohirrim
03-15-2007, 01:16 PM
If I remember correctly, the pharmaceutical factory that Clinton did bomb was either owned by, or affiliated with Bin Laden and provided funding to Bin Laden's organization at that time. But if you guys hate Clinton so much that you prefer to defend Bin Laden, go ahead on.

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2007, 02:29 PM
I've told you guys...they are all the same over there...it doesn't matter if it's Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Syria, the Suads, Lybia, and so on.

Stormontheplains
03-15-2007, 03:04 PM
How are we defending Bin Laden? And you remember incorrectly, all I am pointing out is if GW did the same thing, you would be screaming, but a half-ass effort by Bill is ok.

Spider
03-15-2007, 03:45 PM
Spider:...Please stop posting that picture

LOL ok , I thought since it was a fake woman , it didnt matter , but I will stop

Spider
03-15-2007, 03:47 PM
How are we defending Bin Laden? And you remember incorrectly, all I am pointing out is if GW did the same thing, you would be screaming, but a half-ass effort by Bill is ok.

Bombing s building is 1 thing ....invading the wrong country is an entire different matter ................. I back Bush going into Afghanistan ........

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2007, 03:48 PM
LOL ok , I thought since it was a fake woman , it didnt matter , but I will stop

I am sitting in my cube and it keeps popping up in threads...I kid you not a woman here in the office almost saw iit and I would have potentially lost my job.

Spider
03-15-2007, 03:51 PM
I am sitting in my cube and it keeps popping up in threads...I kid you not a woman here in the office almost saw iit and I would have potentially lost my job.

I dont want to get anyone in troubled , I stepped over the line and I apologize for it .......... i didnt think Garcia ...... real or not it shouldnt have been posted ........... it wont happen again

TailgateNut
03-15-2007, 03:53 PM
I am sitting in my cube and it keeps popping up in threads...I kid you not a woman here in the office almost saw iit and I would have potentially lost my job.


Harharhar!........ stop surfing on company time, unless you own the company, and you wont have to worry!

cutthemdown
03-15-2007, 11:22 PM
point is , The asprin factory was clean , Clinton still had the right country in his sights ........ Clinton wasnt off bombing some country that didnt have anything to do with terrorist attacks ...........

Well we all know Sudan is a lawless place and a hotbed for Islamic Terrorists. Clintons shortcoming when it came to using force was his unwillingness to put troops on the ground. I'm not sure if Somalia was before or after this issue but that really made Clinton feel that using force from the air sent a good strong message and kept the heat off him at home with his own party. I could care less if that factory was innocent or not I just wish Clinton had done more to go after Bin Laden and Al quedia. I don't however fault him for trying to do something that turned out to be an aspirin factory.

Bronco Bob
03-16-2007, 01:10 AM
Well we all know Sudan is a lawless place and a hotbed for Islamic Terrorists. Clintons shortcoming when it came to using force was his unwillingness to put troops on the ground. I'm not sure if Somalia was before or after this issue but that really made Clinton feel that using force from the air sent a good strong message and kept the heat off him at home with his own party. I could care less if that factory was innocent or not I just wish Clinton had done more to go after Bin Laden and Al quedia. I don't however fault him for trying to do something that turned out to be an aspirin factory.

It was after Somalia. The troops were sent to Somalia by Bush sr., despite
being warned it would be a disaster to send them to that hellhole. Clinton
just in inhereted that mess, and pulled the troops out after it proved to
be a disaster to have them there.