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Rascal
03-11-2007, 01:28 AM
So what are some of the expectations that this board has for Jay in his second year?

Any predictions on his stats and general progression?

watermock
03-11-2007, 01:31 AM
Unamious All Pro and Immediate induction into the HOF.

Expectations aren't all that high.

BlaK-Argentina
03-11-2007, 01:45 AM
3500 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs, a playoff win.

spdirty
03-11-2007, 01:47 AM
5,000 yards, 55 TDs, 0 Int.

edit...1,500 rushing yards, 50/50 extra points, on defense its 250 tackles, 28 forced fumbles, 20 int, 25 sacks.

epicSocialism4tw
03-11-2007, 01:51 AM
Dude, like...he's gonna be better than Elway!!!!

baja
03-11-2007, 01:52 AM
I expect I will watch every game

rubaiyat
03-11-2007, 01:53 AM
5,000 yards, 55 TDs, 0 Int.

Don't forget 1,000 yards rushing...while also playing ST.

watermock
03-11-2007, 03:00 AM
Wedge Buster

RhymesayersDU
03-11-2007, 03:00 AM
I don't know about stats, but I'd really like to go undefeated at home.

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 03:36 AM
3800 yards. 31 TDs. 21 INTs.

SuperBowl appearance.

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 03:37 AM
Cutler will be an above average QB at best during the regular season.

But I suspect, that in the post-season, he could be one of the very best. A-la Tom Brady.

Sir Mawn
03-11-2007, 03:38 AM
3800 yards. 31 TDs. 21 INTs.

SuperBowl appearance.

You have us losing the Superbowl? :(

Sir Mawn
03-11-2007, 03:40 AM
I'd say about 3000 yards. 18 to 20 TD's. 10 to 12 INT's and at least a playoff win.

ro_50
03-11-2007, 03:41 AM
3,000-3200 yards

16 TDs-21 TDs

10-14 INTs

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 03:42 AM
I also feel he won't be very good statistically. He won't have the best completion %, or the best TD-INT ratio, etc. Not very different from Jake during his Broncos tenure.

But I feel he will become famous for making the big plays late in the 4th quarter with game or the season on the line. And as I said, he'll be money in the post season. That's where he will be a significant step up from Jake.

His game tying TD against the 69ers when he was still woozy convinced me of that.

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 03:43 AM
You have us losing the Superbowl? :(

I am being realistic. I don't see us winning the big one this season.

Just getting there will be a step forward.

Sir Mawn
03-11-2007, 03:46 AM
I am being realistic. I don't see us winning the big one this season.

Just getting there will be a step forward.

If you have us getting there... we might as well win it!

2KBack
03-11-2007, 03:51 AM
I certainly don't expect him to set many records in his second year. Which anything beyond 27 TDs would do. I'd be cool with him doing that though.

Rock Chalk
03-11-2007, 03:55 AM
I expect better than 2-3.

I predict about 3-2.

Im hoping undefeated.

Kaylore
03-11-2007, 03:59 AM
Cutler will destroy all in his path. Teams will take the field and pee themselves knowing that it won't matter how well they play that day because in the end there is no defense for a perfect play. They will try and fail. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth as Denver stands triumphant over their scorched bodies. None will be left to make afraid against the wrath of he!

SoCalBronco
03-11-2007, 04:00 AM
3500 yards
63%
26 TD
14 INT

kappys
03-11-2007, 04:14 AM
If the O-line plays well the sky's the limit for Cutler. I think 3000+ yards, around 55-60% completion percentage, 28 to 18 TD:INT ratio are all good possibilities.

I'm getting very excited about the potential this offense might have in the coming year.

DeusExManning
03-11-2007, 04:16 AM
super bowl

400HZ
03-11-2007, 05:06 AM
Just out of curiosity, what kind of win/loss record are you guys predicting?

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 05:10 AM
Just out of curiosity, what kind of win/loss record are you guys predicting?

10-6

CHANGSTER
03-11-2007, 06:23 AM
Just out of curiosity, what kind of win/loss record are you guys predicting?

11-5. my prediction every year.:thumbsup:

CBF1
03-11-2007, 06:31 AM
11-5 and the playoffs

cutthemdown
03-11-2007, 06:51 AM
I expect him to make quicker decisions and get better at sliding around in the pocket while continuing to look for wr downfield. When play does break down I'm looking for his athletism to translate over and result in him escaping and making plays out of nothing. I want to see him manage the clock well and not waste timeouts. I want to see him improve his cadence and vary his inflections more. Those are just off the top of my head there are alot more intangibles i hope to see him picking up on. Just want to see him become a sneaky field general that awes defender with his throws. Is that too much to ask for?

fontaine
03-11-2007, 06:56 AM
Considering the kind of play we've gotten out of 2nd year high draft picks, I would be happy enough for even a marginal improvement.

atomicbloke
03-11-2007, 07:44 AM
With Jake at the helm, I went through the regular season thinking about playoff berths and seedings. It was vital to get a home playoff game and get a bye if possible. We knew that with the team that Jake had, and with Jake's limitations, we could not be expected to win on the road in January.

With Cutler, I won't care about seedings etc. The team has to somehow make the playoffs, even if it is by backing in as the 6th seed.

The reason being, that many Bronco fans I have talked to feel that Cutler has the mental toughness and the guile to win on the road in the playoffs against better matched teams. He seems to be a guy can be very good under pressure with the season on the line.

During the regular season, he may have a string of bad games with poor decisions. I am certain he will make several bonehead risky throws that will cost pick 6's and games. But if the team can sneak into the playoffs, then watch out.

NYBronco
03-11-2007, 08:33 AM
Play with an unselfish attitude placing the team first without giving up and worrying if the guy sitting on the bench will become his replacement as the starter. Stay focused on the game day task and remember to keep your team defense in the best possible position to shutdown the opponents offense.

Learn to be the snap handler on FG's and get the ever important pass over the head technique to the kicker down for an easy TD.

Always beat the raiders.

elsid13
03-11-2007, 08:52 AM
I expect him to:

1) have better grasp of the Offense and Speed of the game
2) complete between 62-67% of his passes
3) throw about 20 to 23 TD and single digit INTs
4) rush about 300 yards (both on designed plays and breakdowns)
5) get sacked between 15 to 20 sacks

And expect Henry and Mike Bell to rush for combined 2600+ yards next year with 20 TD

WoodMan
03-11-2007, 10:00 AM
Just out of curiosity, what kind of win/loss record are you guys predicting?

I just hope it isn't 0-1 after the first game again. Yikes! Two years in a row, I can't believe that.

baja
03-11-2007, 10:20 AM
Hard to say what Cutler will be like this season.

Lots and lots of differences this year. First Cutler is now the "man" and he will experience all that comes with than in Denver so his first test will be how he handles all the expectations and media attention.

Teams will be preparing for him and scrutinizing film for ways to get to him.

He will have to make this his team remember he is replacing a popular leader amongst the players. He is a long way from being a field general. We will see how the vets respond to him.

I think Jay will need at least half a season to be comfortable with all the aspects of his new job both on and off the field.

What I will predict is half this board will call for his head with every mistake or misstep he makes....

Jesterhole
03-11-2007, 11:13 AM
When he stops doing the one or two dumb throws that can lose the game, he'll be an All-Pro. He obviously has one of the best combinations of arm strength, accuracy and mobility in the league right now. It will come down to the mental side of things.

He'll have his ups and downs next year, but I think he'll take us to the playoffs.

ludo21
03-11-2007, 11:19 AM
just get us to the playoffs.

As usual I can care less about stats.

-Slap-
03-11-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm thinking somewhere around 362 completions in 564 attempts for a completion percentage of roughly 64%. Probably right around 5084 yards, good for 9 yards per attempt. I would guess in the neighborhood of 48 touchdowns against 17 interceptions.

RunSilentRunDeep
03-11-2007, 11:53 AM
Well, after signing Graham, Henry, Lepsis returning, Foster gone, Marshall, Scheffler improving and an easier schedule he better be pretty successful. The Huggies are coming off. 12-4.

Broncoman13
03-11-2007, 12:29 PM
3500 yards
63%
26 TD
14 INT



Pretty close to what I am thinking he'll produce as well.

Honestly, I expect a little bit of a sophmore slump, but I think our run game and DEFENSE will carry him.

I'd lower that completion pct a bit (59%). And, I think his INT's will be a little bit higher, but not much. Maybe 16 or 17. Yards and TD's are right. Perhaps a few more TD's. He was avg. 2 per game for most of his starts. But, if we're going with bigger OL it's b/c we expect to punch some in when we get into the redzone.

That's the conservative take...


The one I want to go with looks more like this:

4100 yards
35 TD's
16 Int's
60% completion pct.

Pro Bowl, 3rd place in League MVP voting, Superbowl MVP with 280 yards and 3 TD's!!! :thumbs:

Paladin
03-11-2007, 12:49 PM
Nobody doesn't like stats. But nobody never won a game with stats. Stats can be used to explain why a team lost a game. And nobody who's anybody should care about stats except maybe: 12-4, and the Superbowl. Do we really care about stats? Unless you play FF, nobody I know cares about stats. Just wins.

I predict there will be more wins than losses. What else you wanna know?

Domostick
03-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Nobody doesn't like stats. But nobody never won a game with stats. Stats can be used to explain why a team lost a game. And nobody who's anybody should care about stats except maybe: 12-4, and the Superbowl. Do we really care about stats? Unless you play FF, nobody I know cares about stats. Just wins.

I predict there will be more wins than losses. What else you wanna know?

How the hell you can understand yourself with all the double negatives.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Something like this

telluride
03-11-2007, 01:53 PM
Cutler will take Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Florida. Edwards gets South Carolina. Hillary takes New York. Obama gets Michigan, Alabama, Arizona, and California.

After the first wave of primaries it becomes a two man race, between Cutler and Obama, but by the March 7 Colorado primary Cutler has locked up enough delegates to secure the nomination, and then goes on to beat former Senator and current Law and Order star Fred Thompson for the presidency. (This is after congress amends the presidential age requirement, of course.)

President Jay Cutler is sworn in during halftime of his second Super Bowl -- he already won the first -- then throws four second half TDs as the Broncos beat the Seahawks 55-10. Cutler is named MVP, but graciously passes the honor to Vice President Javon Walker.

Sir Mawn
03-11-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm thinking somewhere around 362 completions in 564 attempts for a completion percentage of roughly 64%. Probably right around 5084 yards, good for 9 yards per attempt. I would guess in the neighborhood of 48 touchdowns against 17 interceptions.

Everything else aside... that was one impressive season for a QB.

usedupbraids
03-11-2007, 02:16 PM
i dont know but i like us to go 12-4

azbroncfan
03-11-2007, 03:55 PM
4000 yards
27 TD's
20 INT's

Kaylore
03-11-2007, 03:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, what kind of win/loss record are you guys predicting?

I need to see the draft and the schedule first.

watermock
03-11-2007, 04:27 PM
There will be no sophmore slump, his young recievers will be better with more reps. Jay will master the mental aspects and the game will slow down for him.

He clearly outplayed Jake, who got early season good play from the D. If he can keep away from concussions/injuries, he will be a great one.

Blueflame
03-11-2007, 04:43 PM
I expect some mistakes as he learns the offense, but also some flashes of brilliance.... a completion percentage in the 60-something range, a passer rating around 85-90, more touchdowns than ints, more wins than losses.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2007, 04:45 PM
60%
20-26 TDs
12-18 Ints
3500 yds

He has 5 starts, I still expect there to be quite a few mistakes.

Jay6Cutler
03-11-2007, 05:02 PM
i exspect us to go 11-5 12-4 as far as jays stats 3200 22 TD 15-18 picks. i think jay will struggle at times. jay be brilint other times our running game will help him out alot. hopfully we draft a WR i want the kid from central fla

Cito Pelon
03-11-2007, 06:10 PM
Jay could have a great season, depends on what amount of protection the OL gives him. That first concussion came way too early in his career. I'm worried he's gonna get beat up pretty good this year. He didn't strike me as the kind of guy that pulls the ball down early and looks to buy time. Seems like he wants to hang onto the ball until the last second, and this OL will get him injured that way. There's question marks all over this OL right now.

Bronx33
03-11-2007, 06:14 PM
Cutler will have the best coach in the game to help him along i will be completely happy with a winning season but iam not going to beat him up if he has a poor season either. It's going to be cool to watch him progress in the next 2 years when i think he will begin to be a real force for the broncos.

watermock
03-11-2007, 06:49 PM
I think future concussions are a unanimous concern as well as the OL. One thing I have mentioned, is that Jay got pummeled at Vandy so that might or probably wasn't his first concussion...that's speculation, but it was the defensive monsters of the SEC and his line flat out sucked.

It remains to be seen how much longer Nalen can excell till he goes Rod Smith on us, and it's problematic how well Lepsis can get back to form.

If we commit suicide by going 5 wide when we have Scheff and Graham, I fear for my new TV. We need to tell Cecil that he has to stick his nose in there and protect the franchise QB.

If we are against a 3-4 we need to be in the 2 TE set with Javon and Rod/Marshall outside. They can POP and release, but get some helmets on them...and moving Scheff late in the snap to the slot would likely draw a LB which is a mismatch.

I fully expect this to be a very heavy DL draft after more offensive moves.

Cecil was really progressing last year before he got hurt. We should have a pretty good offense.

listopencil
03-11-2007, 08:07 PM
If we draft the right D-Linemen? Anything is possible. Including another Super Bowl win.

freak6
03-11-2007, 08:08 PM
3500 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs, a playoff win.

Ditto.

broncosteven
03-11-2007, 08:26 PM
9-7, 10-6.

75% or better QB rating, 5 more TD's than INTs. Start every game.

Stormontheplains
03-11-2007, 08:39 PM
I love Culter, but he is no different then any other bronco qb, Superbowl or nothing. and that folks is the bottom line.

Killericon
03-11-2007, 08:45 PM
3000 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs.

With Henry in the Backfield, Shanahan will ease back on the passing game.

freak6
03-11-2007, 09:22 PM
3000 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs.

With Henry in the Backfield, Shanahan will ease back on the passing game.

I disagree with ease back on the passing game. I think we are going to come out firing on all cylinders next season. Jay is gonna go off.

alkemical
03-11-2007, 11:09 PM
2829yds - 18tds - 14INTS - 4 lost fumbles - and 4 comeback wins.

watermock
03-11-2007, 11:12 PM
3200, 24 TD's, 8 Int's and two fumbles.

69bronco
03-12-2007, 12:13 AM
i saw him at the cowboy lounge friday night and he's got an offseason beer belly -no joke but,

3400 yds 34tds 15 ints afc championship win.

watermock
03-12-2007, 12:16 AM
i saw him at the cowboy lounge friday night and he's got an offseason beer belly -no joke but,

3400 yds 34tds 15 ints afc championship win.

He's just following the Elway offseason training regimen.

footstepsfrom#27
03-12-2007, 12:26 AM
I saw something on the net a few days ago that profiled elite quarterbacks and how they performed in their second year. A significant number regressed somewhat from their rookie seasons. It would be nice to remember he's got only 5 games under his belt. I expect some highlight reel moments and some more mistakes, but I think down the stretch next year we'll see him make some serious strides forward. It's 2008 I'm looking at as the year we can make a major push.

NW Bolt Fan
03-12-2007, 11:39 AM
QB play probably isn't your biggest concern. However, many of you mentioned concussions/O-line play, and it turns out Jay fumbled and unprecedented 8 times in 5 games. That HAS to improve.

He's a good QB. He'll do fine. You need him to make smart decisions, and get a D-line, and improve the talent on your O-line.

BroncoMan4ever
03-12-2007, 04:49 PM
So what are some of the expectations that this board has for Jay in his second year?

Any predictions on his stats and general progression?

My only expectations for Cutler this year are,
4000yards passing
30TD's
13wins and a 1st round bye
league MVP
Super Bowl Champ and
Super Bowl MVP

And i think that can actually be done. Shannahan is getting the offense ready to ride once again, and Cutler with a full arsenal and a whole year of learning the system, makes those expectations a strong possibility.

Rigs11
03-12-2007, 06:00 PM
13-3 season, a loss in the AFC championship. Then we can draft another QB.Hilarious!

Cito Pelon
03-13-2007, 04:32 PM
I saw something on the net a few days ago that profiled elite quarterbacks and how they performed in their second year. A significant number regressed somewhat from their rookie seasons. It would be nice to remember he's got only 5 games under his belt. I expect some highlight reel moments and some more mistakes, but I think down the stretch next year we'll see him make some serious strides forward. It's 2008 I'm looking at as the year we can make a major push.

The FO is looking at this year as the chance to make a major push. Same as every year, they think they're real close. I don't think they are, myself. I'd like to see the FO first make sure Cutler will stay on his feet all year, then get the other pieces in place so the team can make a run at the League Title from 2008-2015.

Meck77
03-13-2007, 04:53 PM
Well being that we've been on this Superbowl or bust "couple players away from the superbowl" talk from Bowlen/Shanny year after year I'm keeping the bar right where it's been. If "our sorry ass QB" was able to lead this team to the AFC Champ game than a superstar like Cutler should be expected to surpass that...No?

Steve Sewell
03-13-2007, 05:09 PM
I predict that there will be a Tedy Bruschi like thread in honor of Jay in the very near future.

Inkana7
03-13-2007, 05:16 PM
Cutler will be a top five QB in the NFL this season. The Kid has it all, and we're just surrounding him with crazy good offensive talent. If the Line holds up, we're at least a 12-5 team.

Our success depends on the Defense. Shanahan could coax 24 points a game out of any team in the leauge, our offense this year is going to be dominant. Shanahan was probably drawing up plays the minute Graham was signed. So much versitility. Expect to see a lot of motions, different formations, lots of different personnel, a lot more Double Tight sets than last year(we won't be running out of the 3 Wide set as much, hopefully). I get excited just thinking about watching that machine run.

Imagine it. Cutler looks long to Javon, or to Marshall on the sideline, Sheffler and Graham in the middle of the field. Or he could just hand it off to Henry for a 4 yard gain and a 1st down.

c_lazy_r
03-13-2007, 05:36 PM
2829yds - 18tds - 14INTS - 4 lost fumbles - and 4 comeback wins.

That would be realistic. The kid has alot of faith in his arm and will likely force some throws resulting in a close TD/Int ratio.

Steve Sewell
03-13-2007, 05:55 PM
I expect him to:

1) have better grasp of the Offense and Speed of the game
2) complete between 62-67% of his passes
3) throw about 20 to 23 TD and single digit INTs
4) rush about 300 yards (both on designed plays and breakdowns)
5) get sacked between 15 to 20 sacks

And expect Henry and Mike Bell to rush for combined 2600+ yards next year with 20 TD

Do you realize how unreasonable some of your predictions are?

Steve Sewell
03-13-2007, 05:59 PM
4000 yards
27 TD's
20 INT's

LOL!!!!!! Plummers 2005 stats

Steve Sewell
03-13-2007, 06:05 PM
I disagree with ease back on the passing game. I think we are going to come out firing on all cylinders next season. Jay is gonna go off.

I agree...I think we will see production out of the offense equivalent to the SB years next season.

Cito Pelon
03-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Well being that we've been on this Superbowl or bust "couple players away from the superbowl" talk from Bowlen/Shanny year after year I'm keeping the bar right where it's been. If "our sorry ass QB" was able to lead this team to the AFC Champ game than a superstar like Cutler should be expected to surpass that...No?

Dude's gonna be on his back a lot if the OL doesn't play better.

Cito Pelon
03-13-2007, 06:47 PM
Cutler will be a top five QB in the NFL this season. The Kid has it all, and we're just surrounding him with crazy good offensive talent. If the Line holds up, we're at least a 12-5 team.

Our success depends on the Defense. Shanahan could coax 24 points a game out of any team in the leauge, our offense this year is going to be dominant. Shanahan was probably drawing up plays the minute Graham was signed. So much versitility. Expect to see a lot of motions, different formations, lots of different personnel, a lot more Double Tight sets than last year(we won't be running out of the 3 Wide set as much, hopefully). I get excited just thinking about watching that machine run.

Imagine it. Cutler looks long to Javon, or to Marshall on the sideline, Sheffler and Graham in the middle of the field. Or he could just hand it off to Henry for a 4 yard gain and a 1st down.

If the line holds up he can do that. More likely Cutler gets hammered for standing in the pocket looking to make plays.

alkemical
03-14-2007, 08:36 AM
That would be realistic. The kid has alot of faith in his arm and will likely force some throws resulting in a close TD/Int ratio.

I figured he's still learning, and he'll get the team in a jam or two, only to get himself out of it due to his "gumption" to hit the big play. But i'll take a 40yd INT now and then, it's like a punt..... hehehe