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Rigs11
03-08-2007, 10:01 PM
...can get greetings like this anywhere he goes.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/americas/03/08/bush.latinamerica/newt1.2136.protest.afp.gi.jpg

Street protests greet Bush upon arrival in Brazil
President seeks to improve relations with Latin America on weeklong trip

SAO PAULO, Brazil - President Bush sought to reverse an impression of U.S. neglect as he opened a weeklong tour of Latin America on Thursday. Police clashed with protesters in Brazil and across the region.

Bush arrived in South America’s largest city in the evening on a mission intended to promote democracy, increased trade and cooperation on alternative fuels. The president and his advisers also hoped his visit would offset the growing influence of leftist leaders, such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez.

As he flew here on Air Force One, Bush’s national security adviser brushed aside Chavez’s provocations. “The president is going to do what he’s been doing for a long time: talk about a positive agenda,” said Stephen Hadley

Police battled with students, environmentalists and left-leaning Brazilians, some waving communist flags, ahead of Bush’s visit. Riot police fired tear gas and beat some protesters with batons after more than 6,000 people held a largely peaceful march through the financial district. And in the southern city of Porto Alegre, more than 500 people yelled, “Get out, imperialist!” as they burned an effigy of Bush outside a Citigroup Inc. bank branch.

Meanwhile, the police commander of Colombia, which Bush will visit on Sunday, said authorities had thwarted leftist rebel plans to disrupt Bush’s visit to Bogota. “We have taken measures to neutralize them,” said Gen. Jorge Daniel Castro, Colombia’s highest-ranking police officer.

Also in Colombia, at Bogota’s National University, 200 masked students clashed with 300 anti-riot police and shouted: “Out, Bush.” And in Mexico City, about two dozen demonstrators gathered in front of the U.S. Embassy chanting slogans against the U.S. project to construct border fences and Bush’s visit.

Bush played down protests
Reacting to Thursday’s demonstrations, White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said Bush “enjoys traveling to thriving democracies where freedom of speech and expression are the law of the land.” Bush himself played down expected protests in interviews ahead of his trip with Latin American news organizations.

“I am proud to be going to a part of the world where people can demonstrate, where people can express their minds,” he said in an interview with Univision. And he told CNN En Espanol: “The trip is to remind people that we care.”

Chavez, aligned with Cuba’s Fidel Castro and a fierce critic of Bush, is marking Bush’s trip with a rival tour of the region.

On Saturday, the Venezuelan leader will speak at an “anti-imperialist” rally in a soccer stadium in Buenos Aires, Argentina, about 40 miles across the Plate River from Montevideo, where Bush will be holding talks with Uruguay’s president, Tabare Vazquez.

Hadley, Bush’s national security adviser, told reporters that instead of worrying about Chavez, Bush was “going to be focusing on those countries and those leaders that have the right model and the right ideas for a better Latin America.”

A five-nation tour
In addition to Brazil, Uruguay and Colombia, Bush is also visiting Guatemala and Mexico.

Bush did not plan visits to any countries that have moved into Chavez’s sphere of influence, including Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua.

Bush and Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula de Silva are expected to announce an “ethanol alliance” on Saturday aimed at creating quality standards for the alternative fuel while joining forces to promote more ethanol use in nations lying between Brazil and the United States.

Silva, in turn, has said he will press the U.S. Congress to repeal or scale back the 54-cent per gallon U.S. tariff on sugar-based Brazilian ethanol. Bush and Silva also were expected to talk about efforts to salvage the World Trade Organization talks — the so-called Doha round — that collapsed in discord last summer over farm subsidies and other disputes.

But he probably can’t look to Bush for much help on the tariff issue. White House spokesman Johndroe said tariff matters are “up to Congress” and that Bush wasn’t expected to weigh in on the dispute.

Among those participating in Thursday’s protests were environmentalists and social groups who oppose the biofuels project, fearing that Brazil may clear pristine jungle to ramp up sugarcane cultivation. Greenpeace activists hung a huge banner warning against increased reliance on ethanol as an alternative fuel on a monument to 17th-century Portuguese explorers and conquerors.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17515421/

spdirty
03-08-2007, 11:21 PM
Hilarious!wonder what its gonna be like once he gets out of office and starts doin the speech tour.

Bronco Bob
03-09-2007, 12:34 AM
Hilarious!wonder what its gonna be like once he gets out of office and starts doin the speech tour.

Think Bush will be greeted as a rock star where ever he goes, like that guy who used to have Bush's job is? :peace:

TailgateNut
03-09-2007, 11:18 AM
You gotta love the Hitler 'stache posters. Talk about a resemblance, almost erie.

Bronco Bob
03-09-2007, 11:28 AM
You gotta love the Hitler 'stache posters. Talk about a resemblance, almost erie.

You do know the Bush's are of German descent, don't you?
As I recall the orignal family name was Busch, but was changed
to Bush to sound less German. Nothing wrong with being
German, but I guess it wouldn't be that odd for one German
to look like another German.

Garcia Bronco
03-09-2007, 11:32 AM
the amusing part is they get these ideas for people within our own country. What I see is a bunch of ignorant people who have no clue of the scope of the 3rd Reich...but whatever.

bendog
03-09-2007, 11:38 AM
btw, why are we going to buy ethanol from brazil?

Dudeskey
03-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Whats that sound? Oh, Bush is travelling abroad again

TailgateNut
03-09-2007, 11:49 AM
the amusing part is they get these ideas for people within our own country. What I see is a bunch of ignorant people who have no clue of the scope of the 3rd Reich...but whatever.


The scope may not be the same (yet), but the mentality and operating methods are definately similar.

Dudeskey
03-09-2007, 11:56 AM
btw, why are we going to buy ethanol from brazil?

Not sure... maybe he's trying to run up the price of corn to incite tortilla riots in Mexico... http://www.kearneyhub.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17863805&BRD=268&PAG=461&dept_id=577571&rfi=6

Seriously, maybe we aren't producing enough corn to keep up w/ ethanol demand in the US... the unintended consiquence has been higher prices on corn though.

bendog
03-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Buying ethanol from Brazil, while Africa starves because of our cotten subsidies, and "billions more" for a ****ing amusement park in SADR CITY!!!

God save us.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/world/middleeast/09sadrcity.html

“We should have an amusement park,” said Mr. Daraji, one of two elected mayors in Sadr City, the sprawling Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad where American and Iraqi troops have been peacefully clearing homes since Sunday. “We want to rehabilitate the area so that families can have fun.”

In an interview at his office, Mr. Daraji said the amusement park was one of several projects that community leaders were pushing American officials to finance in negotiations about how to handle the Shiite Mahdi Army, a militia that has controlled the neighborhood for years.

A concentrated makeover of Sadr City, he said, would support the plan’s goals in two important ways: by giving young Mahdi militants jobs as an alternative to lives of violence and by providing residents with proof of the government’s ability to improve their daily lives.

Mr. Daraji’s requests, however, also reflect a broader effort by Iraqi leaders to dart past “clear and hold” to the more lucrative phase of the new security plan known as “build.”

Even as bombings and killings here continue, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has labeled the plan a success. His Shiite-led government has allotted $10 billion this year for reconstruction throughout the country, and, with billions more expected from the United States, Iraqi leaders at all levels are scrambling for a say in how the windfall might be spent.

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At least when the Soviets imploded over afghanistan, they could rightfully say that without the US stingers, their helicopters might have turned the tide.

Rohirrim
03-09-2007, 12:35 PM
You gotta love the Hitler 'stache posters. Talk about a resemblance, almost erie.

I always thought this one fit better.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Bush-Quotes-ngin.jpg
After all, Hitler may have been mad, but he had a brain.

Rohirrim
03-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Buying ethanol from Brazil, while Africa starves because of our cotten subsidies, and "billions more" for a ****ing amusement park in SADR CITY!!!

God save us.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/world/middleeast/09sadrcity.html

“We should have an amusement park,” said Mr. Daraji, one of two elected mayors in Sadr City, the sprawling Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad where American and Iraqi troops have been peacefully clearing homes since Sunday. “We want to rehabilitate the area so that families can have fun.”



:rofl: I can just see it now. Disney World - Baghdad!

W*GS
03-09-2007, 01:06 PM
The scope may not be the same (yet), but the mentality and operating methods are definately similar.

Puhleeze.

Bush and the GOP are many things bad and wrong, but saying they're Nazi-ish is just plain stupid.

Rohirrim
03-09-2007, 01:19 PM
Puhleeze.

Bush and the GOP are many things bad and wrong, but saying they're Nazi-ish is just plain stupid.

So it's okay to call anyone who is left of center a communist, but it's taboo to call a neocon on the fringe of the Right a Nazi?

El Minion
03-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Not sure... maybe he's trying to run up the price of corn to incite tortilla riots in Mexico... http://www.kearneyhub.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17863805&BRD=268&PAG=461&dept_id=577571&rfi=6

Seriously, maybe we aren't producing enough corn to keep up w/ ethanol demand in the US... the unintended consiquence has been higher prices on corn though.

Meat prices (http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/~r/UsatodaycomMoney-TopStories/~3/100557237/2007-03-09-corn_N.htm) at home will also be affected and everything connected to corn:


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Demand for ethanol driving up meat prices

http://chart.bigcharts.com/custom/usatoday-com/big.chart?symb=C07K&sid=2119148&time=6mo&freq=1dy&compidx=aaaaa%7E0&ma=0&maval=60&uf=0&lf=1&type=8&commodity=2119148&mocktick=1&country=US&style=2094&size=2&rand=4541&nosettings=1&mocktick=1


WASHINGTON (AP) — Strong demand for corn to use in ethanol plants is driving up the cost of livestock and will raise prices for beef, pork and chicken, the Agriculture Department said Friday.
Meat and poultry production will fall as producers face higher feed costs, the department said in its monthly crop report. Ethanol fuel, which is blended with gasoline, is consuming 20% of last year's corn crop and is expected to gobble up more than 25% of this year's crop.

The price of corn, the main feed for livestock, has driven the cost of feeding chickens up 40%, according to the National Chicken Council. The council says that chicken, the most popular meat with consumers, will soon cost more at the grocery store. The industry worries the competition from ethanol could cause a shortage of corn.

The average price of corn is more than $4.20 a bushel, according to the futures prices on the Chicago Board of Trade. In October, it traded at less than $3 a bushel.

MAKE MONEY: How can you use this knowledge in your portfolio?
While chicken producer Tyson Foods (TSN) posted its first profitable quarter in a year Jan. 29, executives warned that a dramatic rise in feed costs will raise chicken prices.

"Companies will be forced to pass along rising costs to their customers, meaning consumers will pay significantly more for food," Chief Executive Dick Bond said.

Deputy Agriculture Secretary Chuck Conner said USDA is keeping an eye on corn supply and demand. Demand likely will prompt farmers to plant more acres in corn, he said.

"We do have confidence in the marketplace's ability to react," Conner said. "We believe producers are seeing the market saying, 'I need more corn, not only for ethanol, but for our feed needs in this country."'

The department will issue planting predictions later this month.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

bendog
03-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Is that what's doing that? I used to be able to get untrimmed brisket for a buck several times a year. 2.50 now.

Seriously, we're killing africa with cotten. Our subsidies to the farmers make it impossible for Africa to compete. Soooo, why not kill the cotten subsidies and plant something that can do ethanol? I know corn will grow in the South. I see it.

Rohirrim
03-09-2007, 02:44 PM
Can you get ethanol from hemp? ;D

TailgateNut
03-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Can you get ethanol from hemp? ;D


Yes, and it will decrease road rage!:thumbsup:

http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml

Bronco Bob
03-09-2007, 03:02 PM
Can you get ethanol from hemp? ;D

Hemp seed would be better used to produce bio-diesel. Hemp seeds
are rich in oil, and hemp will grow just about anywhere. The advantage
of using hemp seeds for bio-diesel instead of making ethanol from them
is it is much easier to extract the oil from the seeds than it is to
ferment them and then heat the liquid to distill out the ethanol.
A lot of energy is wasted in the distillation process. It doesn't
take all that much energy to press seeds.

Dudeskey
03-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Yes, and it will decrease road rage!:thumbsup:

http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml

Hemp would be great for a lot of commodities besides fuel

W*GS
03-09-2007, 03:21 PM
So it's okay to call anyone who is left of center a communist, but it's taboo to call a neocon on the fringe of the Right a Nazi?

Who's calling lefties communists? I'm not.

And no, not even neo-cons are Nazis.

You're none too familiar with Nazis, are you?

Bronco Bob
03-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Hemp would be great for a lot of commodities besides fuel

I was surprised, but it's actually legal to buy hemp seeds in the USA as long
as they have been dehulled and thus aren't fit for planting. They are rich in
Omega-3 oils, which is an oil essential for health, the same oil in salmon and
flax seeds. (No, they don't have any THC in them) They are usually sold
in the health food section and in nutrition stores such as GNC. Interestingly
the ones I've seen are from Germany, because I guess it's legal to sell
them, but illegal to grow them in the USA. I've bought a few cans to try
them out, but I prefer flax seed as it has more Omega-3 and tastes better.

colosilverado
03-09-2007, 11:00 PM
...and guess what, the previous presidents got that kind of turnout from folks and the next ones will too. Wow, people hate the US? I never knew. Thanks for enlightening us.
Well, if Bush is Hitler, let's get to exterminating the whole of the middle east then.

Bronco_Beerslug
03-09-2007, 11:22 PM
...and guess what, the previous presidents got that kind of turnout from folks and the next ones will too. Wow, people hate the US? I never knew. Thanks for enlightening us.
Well, if Bush is Hitler, let's get to exterminating the whole of the middle east then.

Geeeezus! Please try and keep up with current events. No modern president has ever alienated the world against us to the extent Bush has.

colosilverado
03-09-2007, 11:27 PM
Geeeezus! Please try and keep up with current events. No modern president has ever alienated the world against us to the extent Bush has.
Really, there hasn't been US flag burning and effigies of other presidents? That is news to me and to the world. So, because of your hate for Bush and because you say so, Bush is the most hated? That is RICH!!!

Bronco_Beerslug
03-09-2007, 11:42 PM
Really, there hasn't been US flag burning and effigies of other presidents? That is news to me and to the world. So, because of your hate for Bush and because you say so, Bush is the most hated? That is RICH!!!Are you really this ignorant and uninformed?

colosilverado
03-09-2007, 11:45 PM
Are you really this ignorant and uninformed?
You've used that brilliant line at least, what, 4-5 times tonight? You sure are showing me up and debating what I am saying, aren't you?

Bronco Bob
03-10-2007, 01:21 AM
...and guess what, the previous presidents got that kind of turnout from folks and the next ones will too. Wow, people hate the US? I never knew. Thanks for enlightening us.

Clinton was and still is greeted like a rock star where ever he went as president
and now as a private citizen. But the right wingers will never admit that
because Georgie Boy is ever so much better than Clinton. Not sure how,
but he just is.

TailgateNut
03-10-2007, 12:02 PM
Really, there hasn't been US flag burning and effigies of other presidents? That is news to me and to the world. So, because of your hate for Bush and because you say so, Bush is the most hated? That is RICH!!!

You have to be kidding. The current idiot in charge has totally destroyed our credibilty. His arrogance has alienated the world and has negated the respect we used to enjoy around the globe. (sure there were the few isolated countries who have never liked us) Now we have turned the tables. We only have a few which do like us. I just can't name any. Can You?

gunns
03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
Clinton was and still is greeted like a rock star where ever he went as president
and now as a private citizen. But the right wingers will never admit that
because Georgie Boy is ever so much better than Clinton. Not sure how,
but he just is.

LOL, let us know when you can. Maybe colosilverado can help you with that.