300 the Movie - Color me a geeked-up fanboy

[Pezman]

I'm amped to go catch the latest fanboy-gotta-see-it-or-die-trying flick tomorrow nite at the IMAX here in SoCal. Anybody else think this movie is gonna be sick as hell? I'm amped baby!

http://ifc.com/ifc/img/03052007_300_article.jpg

For those who havent seen the eleventy-billion trailers, check out them here (There is even a high-definition trailer, NICE!)

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/hd/

[Kid A]

I might see it friday night. Don't know about the story/acting, but the visuals look to be pretty stunning.

[Rascal]

I want to see it, but mainly because I love history and I recently read Gates of Fire.

Yes I know the movie will be nothing like it, but it looks cool.

[Pezman]

Tell ya what, the soundtrack alone is sweet as hell. NIN's "Just like you imagined" song during the trailer totally kicks ass.

The wifey isnt so much into going though... but I'm dragging her ass there anyway. Although, to her defense, she said she's only going cuz she likes all the sweaty spartans on the preview. Damn, what a way to ruin the movie for me eh?

[skpac1001]

I want to see it, but mainly because I love history and I recently read Gates of Fire.

Yes I know the movie will be nothing like it, but it looks cool.

I read that. Pretty intense book at the end. If the movie is anything like it, it will fire you up. Make sure you post a review after you see it.

[Rock Chalk]

Ive read most non-fiction about Leonidas and the Spartans in general. Ive been waiting on this for like 6 months.

Bought tickets to the Dinner Cinema nearby (they serve beer there) for tomorrow night. Cant wait to see this ****.

Color me the same colored fanboy Pez.

[Killericon]

I'm going to see it at midnight tonight at IMAX.

Awww yea.

[Pezman]

Ive read most non-fiction about Leonidas and the Spartans in general. Ive been waiting on this for like 6 months.

Bought tickets to the Dinner Cinema nearby (they serve beer there) for tomorrow night. Cant wait to see this ****.

Color me the same colored fanboy Pez.

Did somebody say beer? Mayhem on screen? Loud music? Damn, you da man as always bro

[Rascal]

Wish they would have made the soldiers more realistic (cheastplates for one), but it looks cool.

BTW, it wasn't just 300. They had squires (two to each peer) plus about 3000 other troops from different areas that joined up along the way.

I've read it was basically 4000-5000 against 1-2 million.

[nickademus]

Has anyone seen the clip of the workout these guys did to get into shape for this movie? I dont know if they used the sled but damn this stuff looks rough.

[phibacka31]

Im also amped about 300. Going tomorrow night:strong:

[Pezman]

Wish they would have made the soldiers more realistic (cheastplates for one), but it looks cool.

BTW, it wasn't just 300. They had squires (two to each peer) plus about 3000 other troops from different areas that joined up along the way.

I've read it was basically 4000-5000 against 1-2 million.

All I know is that they were the original marine madmen. They were the single greatest fighting unit in warfare history.

I do think the artistic license is gonna be extended quite a bit based on what I've seen from the previews (especially with Ephialtes looking like a full-blown Ogre) Then again, it is based on Frank Miller's version and not necessarily the actual historical events.

[Rock Chalk]

Wish they would have made the soldiers more realistic (cheastplates for one), but it looks cool.

BTW, it wasn't just 300. They had squires (two to each peer) plus about 3000 other troops from different areas that joined up along the way.

I've read it was basically 4000-5000 against 1-2 million.

From 4-7K Greeks and realistically probably about a fighting force on land of about 250K Persians. The 1-2 million number likely includes envoy's and support personell IF its that high.

THe problem with an army as large as claimed by Herodotus is logistics. Feeding and supply water to that many people back then would have been a (pardon the pun) Herculean task. While the Persian army as a whole numbered larger than 5 million, it was also at the time the largest empire in the world and needed a good portion of those soldiers to remain behind to protect borders from outlying civilizations.

The story's numbers aren't quite the point. It was 300 Spartans, plus Thespians, Thebians, Mycaneans and soldiers from other Greek City States save for Athens (whose navy was at the time, holding off the Persian fleet and in fact, beat them back). Its the use of the terrain and tactics that makes this battle important in military history and indeed world history. While the Persians did win the battle, they lost a great deal of men in doing so. It did not stop them from sacking Athens and burning it to the ground (not before the residents escaped and left it a ghost town though), but it did do one thing: It bought the rest of the Greeks time to escape from Athens and retaliate against their Navy.

The Greeks that held the ground at Thermopolyae did so against impossible odds and were it not for a traitor, they may have had an ever greater impact against the mighty Persian army. This battle signalled to the world and left its mark on history that free men fighting for freedom are the most dangerous warriors in the world.

[Pezman]

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Ha! Red sauce on pasta!

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Can't wait for this, going to go see it tomorrow.

[Rascal]

From 4-7K Greeks and realistically probably about a fighting force on land of about 250K Persians. The 1-2 million number likely includes envoy's and support personell IF its that high.

THe problem with an army as large as claimed by Herodotus is logistics. Feeding and supply water to that many people back then would have been a (pardon the pun) Herculean task. While the Persian army as a whole numbered larger than 5 million, it was also at the time the largest empire in the world and needed a good portion of those soldiers to remain behind to protect borders from outlying civilizations.

The story's numbers aren't quite the point. It was 300 Spartans, plus Thespians, Thebians, Mycaneans and soldiers from other Greek City States save for Athens (whose navy was at the time, holding off the Persian fleet and in fact, beat them back). Its the use of the terrain and tactics that makes this battle important in military history and indeed world history. While the Persians did win the battle, they lost a great deal of men in doing so. It did not stop them from sacking Athens and burning it to the ground (not before the residents escaped and left it a ghost town though), but it did do one thing: It bought the rest of the Greeks time to escape from Athens and retaliate against their Navy.

The Greeks that held the ground at Thermopolyae did so against impossible odds and were it not for a traitor, they may have had an ever greater impact against the mighty Persian army. This battle signalled to the world and left its mark on history that free men fighting for freedom are the most dangerous warriors in the world.

I'm a history buff, but yes.

Herodotus estimated it as 2 million men.

I'm going to Greece, Egypt, and Turkey for 14+ days in May and I hope to stop by the site and see Leonidas Monument. I hope to see the original one as well, but I've heard reports that it's either been taken away for a museum or the writing is faded out.

[Northman]

Went to a private screening of this On Tuesday. Very, Very good movie. Highly recommended.

[Rock Chalk]

I'm a history buff, but yes.

Herodotus estimated it as 2 million men.

I'm going to Greece, Egypt, and Turkey for 14+ days in May and I hope to stop by the site and see Leonidas Monument. I hope to see the original one as well, but I've heard reports that it's either been taken away for a museum or the writing is faded out.

Its funny how historians generally discount Herodotus' number for the Persians but assume he is truthful when giving the Greek numbers.

[Ratboy]

I'm going to see it at midnight! woohoo!

[Rock Chalk]

Man **** all of you going to see it at midnight.

I gotta work tomorrow (though what I do on Friday's could hardly be construed by most as work, more like sleeping with my eyes open).

[Dagmar]

This movie looks AWESOME. Going to see it in the Denver IMAX, cannot freakin wait.

[Rascal]

I hate you Anubis.

[Rascal]

Its funny how historians generally discount Herodotus' number for the Persians but assume he is truthful when giving the Greek numbers.

LOL

Makes a better story for one.

[Spider]

Whats the movie about ?

[floats]

I'm amped to go catch the latest fanboy-gotta-see-it-or-die-trying flick tomorrow nite at the IMAX here in SoCal. Anybody else think this movie is gonna be sick as hell? I'm amped baby!

http://ifc.com/ifc/img/03052007_300_article.jpg

For those who havent seen the eleventy-billion trailers, check out them here (There is even a high-definition trailer, NICE!)

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/hd/

Pez, I'm psyched as well. You gonna see it at the Edwards at the Mills?

[Rascal]

Whats the movie about ?

Miller's "interpretation" of the Battle of Thermopylae. Which is the epic story of 300 (as the story goes) Spartans holding off 1 million persians (as the story goes) for seven days allowing their country men to mobilize. Their valor and sacrifice would inspire their fellow greeks to later defeat Xerxes and his huge army. And in the process save the precious idea of a republic/democracy, which would obviously prove useful later on in history.

[TerrElway]

I want to see it, but mainly because I love history and I recently read Gates of Fire.

Yes I know the movie will be nothing like it, but it looks cool.

I read it a few months ago. The first 120 pages or so dragged but the rest rocked. Gates of Fire was more historically accurate than 300.

300 is a stylized man-flick and there ain't a damn thing wrong with that.

[cutthemdown]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Ratboy]

Scratch that, some dickwad friends acted like little girls and took too long. Looks like i'll see it tomorrow.

[Pezman]

Pez, I'm psyched as well. You gonna see it at the Edwards at the Mills?

I'm probably heading to the IMAX showing in Irvine bro. You seeing it in Ontario?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I'm not up on that part of history, but I saw the History Channel version tonight. Looks like it has great potential as a movie.

[Crushaholic]

This is easily the most anticipated movie of the year, so far. I'm going tomorrow night. I'll have to pick up tickets during my lunch hour tomorrow...

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Can't wait to see it this weekend.

Zodiac was pretty cool, too.

[Xenos]

R rated trailer if anyone's interested. No spoilers. Just gore and...things.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=28IjXoTP4yg&mode=related&search=

[houghtam]

Just to clarify things here...

The IMAX showing of 300 is not a true IMAX print. The film was shot in 35mm and blown up to 70mm for IMAX houses. There won't be any more detail, it'll just be...bigger.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[DivineLegion]

Acctualy from a historical standpoint and a studied view Thermopoly was about as significant as the battle of first Mannassas. The reason the Greek city states as a whole sent such a small colaition is because on the battle of marathon and two they were celibrating a holiday. The reason they sent an army at all was to delay the Persians (so they could sober up) and because they wanted to test what they were made of. The Greek states at the time were so isolated from each other and disconnected they dident precive the Persian army as that great of a threat until after Thermopoly, so realy all in all Thermoply was a big testing ground.

[LordHelmchen]

I want to see it, but mainly because I love history and I recently read Gates of Fire.

Yes I know the movie will be nothing like it, but it looks cool.


great book :thumbs:

[elsid13]

I want to see it, but mainly because I love history and I recently read Gates of Fire.

Yes I know the movie will be nothing like it, but it looks cool.

You should also pick up Pressfields' Tides of War - I actually thought that was little better. And the Ten Thousand by Michael Curtis Ford is also a good read in that style


But I really really hope that this movie is good.... Men Fitness had an artical about insane workout the actors did to get shape for the movie.

[Northman]

I hate you Anubis.



Ha!

[LordHelmchen]

I hope the movie will be good.. but.. as a person being fascinated by this battle since I was like 8 years old or so... I guess I will be disappointed

[Northman]

I hope the movie will be good.. but.. as a person being fascinated by this battle since I was like 8 years old or so... I guess I will be disappointed


I doubt it. ;)

[BroncoBuff]

I guess people are different, cause I see nothing in this thread of the slightest interest to me.


Is that wrong?

[Spider]

Miller's "interpretation" of the Battle of Thermopylae. Which is the epic story of 300 (as the story goes) Spartans holding off 1 million persians (as the story goes) for seven days allowing their country men to mobilize. Their valor and sacrifice would inspire their fellow greeks to later defeat Xerxes and his huge army. And in the process save the precious idea of a republic/democracy, which would obviously prove useful later on in history.

Hmmmmmmmm a lot like the Alamo ....... I would like to see it , me and the wife get my daughter to baby sit , go see it ;D
but then I would feel so guilty I wouldnt enjoy the movie , i will wait until it comes out on DVD

[Rohirrim]

I hope the movie will be good.. but.. as a person being fascinated by this battle since I was like 8 years old or so... I guess I will be disappointed

That's what I expect as well. Movies that cover historical events always disappoint me. For one thing, they always have to shove in the love interest even when the main story regards 300 Spartans going to their deaths. You can guarantee there will be some kind of wasted film on some kind of peripheral love story. Of course, if they were going to be historically accurate regarding the Spartans, that love interest might look more like Brokeback Mountain. Ha!

[RhymesayersDU]

This movie looks pretty bad ass.

I also can't wait for Teeange Mutant Ninja Turtles... Man I was obsessed with them when I was a kid.

[freak6]

My buddy saw it, said it was best movie in years.

[El Guapo]

saw it @ an IMAX last night and it was amazing! Very well done and actually very close to being historically accurate (besides the beasts and abnormal looking humans, etc etc :) ). I want to see it again.

[Rock Chalk]

I guess people are different, cause I see nothing in this thread of the slightest interest to me.


Is that wrong?

Well, this from a guy that thinks Colbert is even remotely funny.

[Rascal]

That's what I expect as well. Movies that cover historical events always disappoint me. For one thing, they always have to shove in the love interest even when the main story regards 300 Spartans going to their deaths. You can guarantee there will be some kind of wasted film on some kind of peripheral love story. Of course, if they were going to be historically accurate regarding the Spartans, that love interest might look more like Brokeback Mountain. Ha!

Actually it was Thebes that had a bad ass unit called Sacred Band, named after a Plato "play". that were all gay. There number was 300 and they were their elite fighting unit. THe reasoning was that lovers would fight more fiercely and cohesively at each others side.

They would defeat the Spartans in 370 BC something at the battle of Tegyra, and that victory led to them gaining independence from Spartan rule. That would lead to Theban power, but also eventually Philip II's eventual victory later on in which he would wipe them out at the battle of Chaeronea in which Macedonia would break the Greek city-states in 338 BC.

[Rohirrim]

Actually it was Thebes that had a bad ass unit called Sacred Band, named after a Plato "play". that were all gay. There number was 300 and they were their elite fighting unit. THe reasoning was that lovers would fight more fiercely and cohesively at each others side.

They would defeat the Spartans in 370 BC something at the battle of Tegyra, and that victory led to them gaining independence from Spartan rule. That would lead to Theban power, but also eventually Philip II's eventual victory later on in which he would wipe them out at the battle of Chaeronea in which Macedonia would break the Greek city-states in 338 BC.

The Spartans engaged in the same thing. So did the Athenians and the Myceneans, and the Corinthians, etc. To them, there was no such thing as gay/straight. Being raised and enculturated in the Judeo/Christian ethic, we can't imagine looking through their eyes - seeing the world the way they saw it. To them, there was not one God operating everything, passing down laws. There were many Gods, operating on all sorts of levels, and even they were not always reliable. Sometimes, the ethics of even the Gods was questionable. Those people lived in a world where the wind didn't just blow as a natural phenomenon of geo-climate. It blew because Aeolus had some reason to release it, unbeknownst to the people. A boat sank because the proper sacrifice to Poseidon was not made. You won in war because Athena favored you, though you might lose if Athena favors you and Ares is against you. So who do you sacrifice to? Spring came because Pluto released Persephone from the underworld. Everything was freighted with the purpose of the Gods. Every act required sacrifice to the Gods.

Zeus himself was always sneaking down from Olympus, disguised as some kind of beast so Hera wouldn't know what he was up to, and impregnating some poor farm girl. Of course, that's a pretty neat trick when old John comes back from the wars and sees his young wife is pregnant. "Zeus did it," she says. That puts John in a bind. If she's telling the truth and he takes revenge, he's in for it. ;D

[Pezman]

Ack! All the theaters around here are already sold out, especially the IMAX ones... Damn. Glad I was an uber-geek fanboy and bought my tickets yesterday.

Will be back later this afternoon with my glorfied, A++ review of the blood and gore epic of the moment. Whoot!

[RkyMtnThunder]

I am a bit of an ancient history buff myself. I also really enjoy fantasy epics. And of course, being a guy, great FX and gratuitous violence is always good.

300 looks to blend all of these attributes and do it quite well and I will certainly check it out. I really liked Sin City and this also being a Frank Miller tale brought to the big screen with a unique visual look is really appealing to me.

But there is a part of me that thinks this movie seems a bit cheesy and over the top.

3/4 naked, oily ripped uber macho men, shouting (over acting) all the dialog like the badasses they are.

As visually impressive as the film looks, it also looks like it could be a bloated pretentious pile of dung.

It also looks very, very gay. I know Spartans were...well Spartan and didnt wear full armour. And being Greek - well..... But after viewing the trailer, I am 1/2 surprised the costume designer didnt choose to put the Spartans in pearl g strings and ball gags.

Let the flaming commence, I know there are fan boys who already think its the best movie ever (even without watching it) and are unlikely to change their minds even if they secretly didnt like it - but its indeed getting mixed reviews so I am not sure if I am too far off the mark in feeling 50/50 on this one.

That all said, I still plan to check it out and hope I am totally wrong on all accounts.

But I will wait to catch it on my home theater, if only to see it in HD cause the FX do look worth watching alone.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Denver Post did not give it a very good review. Of course the reviewer was a woman. (ducks and runs)

[worm]

After the horror that was Alexander....I refuse to see this movie until someone validates its ungayness.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[houghtam]

I love how everyone's a homophobe. Fine, miss out on a great movie. I somehow doubt anyone will notice/care.

[RkyMtnThunder]

I love how everyone's a homophobe. Fine, miss out on a great movie. I somehow doubt anyone will notice/care.

Its not really about homophobia, I could really care less about any of that. Its just that the impression I got from the trailers was that this movie could be awesome, or it could be cheesy.

I am not going to label anything 'great' until I have seen it. And I still plan to. I just wont be surprised if it isnt very good after all. Its not really getting the best reviews

[Rock Chalk]

Well, Casablanca got great reviews and I thought it was crap.

So take reviews however you want.

[NCSTBronco]

it's great....it's got one-liners, violence, inspiring speeches, badassery, some insane monster things, a slow-mo sex scene (for a few of the above, there is no gay stuff), and the fight scenes are just perfect

[Paladin]

AND.........."Spartan women give birth to real men".

[anthonypacino]

IMAX is sold out her in the Springs so it looks like just the DLP for me tonight, already bought for 7pm. Guess I'll have to wait a few days for the IMAX version. I am pretty pumped this is supposed to be to closest adaptation of a graphic novel a movie has done, with Sin City (another Frank Miller series) being the next closest.

[goldengopher1976]

Just saw it, and thought it was incredible. Like Fight Club, it was a movie that made me feel both like I wanted to kick somebody's a** and that I was way too soft to accomplish it.

Don't worry about any "gay-ness", the fighting is awesome, the FX are epic, the stylized cinematography is fantastic, the graphic representation of both Spartan and Persian culture is perfectly contrasted and interestingly displayed.

Leave your cynicism about over-acting at the door and let yourself enjoy it, you'll love the ride.

[Pezman]

Whew, just got back home. My eyeballs are burning after watching my first ever movie in IMAX. The theater was packed for the 2:10 showing (My GOD there are alot of people playing hookie from work today) The crowd was a big mix of fanboys nerds, creepy old dudes who look like they play online MMORPG's all day, hipsters, tons of teens, and even a few hotties. Needless to say, the theater was packed...

...now onto the fun.
***Minor spoilers below***





The movie itself is definately not for the squeemish, or for those of you who abhor violence, nudity, decapitations, violence, loud music, blood, violence, cheesy acting, and violence ;D

I thought it was a great popcorn flick, but definately lacking on character development, especially within the secondary cast. The king himself certainly had motivation, but lacked true depth that I was hoping for in creating the basis for his actions (besides the general threat that the Persian army posed).
I was hoping for a bit more background and backbuilding leading to the actual battle itself, not the silly quick Oracle meeting and then the swift buildup to war. However, all that is forgiven when the actual battles begin.
There was no shortage of mayhem and gore for those who crave it wontonly (how often does one get to use that word?).

I will say this, from a true historical background, it is obviously VERY loosely based and I think Rascal, you might be left wanting more from that perspective. However, in terms of accuracy, its not like they could cover the details of the entire background story in a mere two hours.

That is the last nitpick I give... I was really left thinking that the movie could easily have been stretched by an additional 1/2 hour while giving more depth to the story, (RANT AHEAD!) but I am reminded that Hollywood is as always, more worried about selling tickets. After all, clocking in at just under two hours sells a hell of a lot more tickets to the ticket punchers... bastards!

Anyway, go see this flick. It definately hits its target audience (young males, young females etc) and it does definately kick some major ass!

I give it a 7/10

Red Sauce On Pasta! Out

[elsid13]

Thanks Pez,

I highly surprised that Hollywood doesn't explore the social/economic/cultural tension between Sparta and Athena. ;D

[Pezman]

Thanks Pez,

I highly surprised that Hollywood doesn't explore the social/economic/cultural tension between Sparta and Athena. ;D

Ha! As it was, I kept thinking to myself... If the Greeks and Persians would battle as hard as W*gs, LABF and Co. battle on the War and Politics forum, we would have seen twice as much gore

[elsid13]

Ha! As it was, I kept thinking to myself... If the Greeks and Persians would battle as hard as W*gs, LABF and Co. battle on the War and Politics forum, we would have seen twice as much gore

Know what scary, that 80% to 90% of the teens in that theater were probably experience the battle of Thermopylae for the first time with you. And have no clue how it shaped the world we live in today or understand how the shock combat influenced Western Warfare or how it lead to the Peloponnesian War.

[Rohirrim]

I don't give a ****. I like red sauce on pasta.

[floats]

I'm probably heading to the IMAX showing in Irvine bro. You seeing it in Ontario?

Yeah, I probably won't be able to catch it until Sunday, though. I can't wait.

[bmanhas]

Whew, just got back home. My eyeballs are burning after watching my first ever movie in IMAX. The theater was packed for the 2:10 showing (My GOD there are alot of people playing hookie from work today) The crowd was a big mix of fanboys nerds, creepy old dudes who look like they play online MMORPG's all day, hipsters, tons of teens, and even a few hotties. Needless to say, the theater was packed...

...now onto the fun.
***Minor spoilers below***





The movie itself is definately not for the squeemish, or for those of you who abhor violence, nudity, decapitations, violence, loud music, blood, violence, cheesy acting, and violence ;D

I thought it was a great popcorn flick, but definately lacking on character development, especially within the secondary cast. The king himself certainly had motivation, but lacked true depth that I was hoping for in creating the basis for his actions (besides the general threat that the Persian army posed).
I was hoping for a bit more background and backbuilding leading to the actual battle itself, not the silly quick Oracle meeting and then the swift buildup to war. However, all that is forgiven when the actual battles begin.
There was no shortage of mayhem and gore for those who crave it wontonly (how often does one get to use that word?).

I will say this, from a true historical background, it is obviously VERY loosely based and I think Rascal, you might be left wanting more from that perspective. However, in terms of accuracy, its not like they could cover the details of the entire background story in a mere two hours.

That is the last nitpick I give... I was really left thinking that the movie could easily have been stretched by an additional 1/2 hour while giving more depth to the story, (RANT AHEAD!) but I am reminded that Hollywood is as always, more worried about selling tickets. After all, clocking in at just under two hours sells a hell of a lot more tickets to the ticket punchers... bastards!

Anyway, go see this flick. It definately hits its target audience (young males, young females etc) and it does definately kick some major ass!

I give it a 7/10

Red Sauce On Pasta! Out


Holy Sh*t, you should be a critic, cause this is EXACTLY what I thought of the movie. The visual effects alone are worth the watch. But there is zero character development and boy does the story suck compared to the real thing. It is a 7/10 because of the visuals, but don't expect a great epic, you will be disappointed.

3 of us went and this is exactly what we said. Even the extension of the movie by 1/2 hour part. Even 15 more minutes of developing the characters would have been cool. We just didn't connect with any of the characters in the movie.

[Rascal]

I was afraid of that. I'm afraid I'm going to be disappointed in the lack of character development. I can get past the lack of historical accuracy, but great movies have the character development and are what make them lasting. It seems that if they don't they are soon forgotten.

Really really wish they would make a movie based on gates of fire though.

Another good novel for movie adaptation is Shogun.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Move over Predator, that was the most dudulus movie that I have ever seen (although Predator was a MUCH better movie).

The testosterone is so thick that your testes wont have to work for a week.

I thought that the movie was a shallow, but visually appealing battle flick. Dont see it for any reason other than to be entertained in the same way one could be entertained by blowing up a TV.

[Rascal]

For those wanting to watch the history channel special on the battle here is the link for the first of three parts. The other two parts are on the right on the new page.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6BDHGa4CEY&mode=related&search=

[Taco John]

I've got my tickets for the 10:20 showing... Getting ready to head out! :)

[cbs1177]

Thanks to Pez I heard red sauce on Pasta in that scene and started to laugh. Thanks Pez for the strange looks I got.

[Crushaholic]

It didn't have much time for character development, but it was a very entertaining flick. For those of you worried about your manhood in this movie, there is female nudity to behold. Plus, my theater was running a NEW Spider-Man 3 trailer!!!!!:strong:

[cbs1177]

It didn't have much time for character development, but it was a very entertaining flick. For those of you worried about your manhood in this movie, there is female nudity to behold. Plus, my theater was running a NEW Spider-Man 3 trailer!!!!!:strong:

that is crap b/c we got crappy previews. Wait we did get oceans 13 but the rest I don't even remember.

[Kid A]

Yeah, pretty much what everyone else said. Not much depth to speak of, but the battle scenes were pretty sweet...and I'm not someone who usually enjoys movies that are purely action. If you are interested you should probably see this on a theatre screen unless you have a really nice home setup, because this movie is all about the visuals.

[Ratboy]

Spiderman 3 looks decent.

[Crushaholic]

that is crap b/c we got crappy previews. Wait we did get oceans 13 but the rest I don't even remember.

That's too bad. I thought it might have been a nationwide release of the trailer, since the movie was expected to do big box office numbers the first weekend. What the hell are they thinking in Arkansas denying you this treasure?

[houghtam]

The way movie previews work is this:

The movie theater receives the print in 2-3 cannisters, containing anywhere from 5-10 reels of film. Inside the cannisters are included all of the "approved" trailers (ones that are either associated with the distributor or paid money to be included), which can be anywhere from 1-15. Also, there is always one trailer "attached" to the print. For all intents and purposes, this is the one trailer that MUST be shown with the film. For 300, I believe the attached trailer was for The Reaping (Hilary Swank). Often, distributors will "request" (read: "demand") that another trailer be attached as well. In this case it was Ocean's 13. Any other trailers spliced to the print are made on a location by location basis. For my movie theater, we spliced the Spiderman 3 trailers, of course. Why Spiderman 3 wouldn't be on every other theater in the nation, I can't say.

Whoever the projectionist is that didn't put Spidey on the print isn't doing much to help business for his theater.

[ludo21]

Absolutely SICK!!!

love it. Blood, guts, heads coming off... mmmm!! ;D

It was sweet. Gave me plenty of character depth, let me know who the lead guy was, why they were fighting, and thats all i wanted in a flat our war movie.

[Taco John]

Loved it... And to tell you the truth, I'm glad they didn't do much character development in this movie. Personally, I think that would have sucked and been really out of place. This movie isn't about the characters as much as it's about the battle. I thought they did a good enough job developing the only character that really counted.

I enjoyed it. It's one for the collection.


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/300/rodrigo_santoro/300b.jpg


I have spoken... :clown:

[Taco John]

Holy cow... Can you believe that this guy is Xerxes?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/charlie_s_angels__full_throttle/rodrigo_santoro/charliepre2.jpg

Rodrigo Santoro

[llayne]

Warning** This message got a little longer than I expected.

Well where to start? I loved the film and felt that it was historically accurate enough for Hollywood(though I feel they should be held to higher standards) and to give people a general idea of what happened.I didn’t like how they don’t once mention Thermopolyae by name. I was also scarred that so many people didn’t realize that this was true and based of history. The film should have mentioned that that is a true story.
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I mostly have questions for the HISTORICAL BUFFS here. What historical parts would you want changed or added? I would have liked not to have the oracle thing, but it did allow the movie to stick to the main story. That being said, I would have liked them to mention how Greece had fought Persia before, and how the war went afterwards. I believe it lasted another year. I do like how they did provide a quick glimpse into Spartan childhood and what the boys went though and how they became such great fighters.
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I loved the battle scenes but felt that they…umm. The Spartans would never have fought in such loose formations and that bugged me. It provided great one on one fight action though.
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I don’t think the movie should have had to much more character development on the Spartans, maybe more on the King but that is it. From my knowledge, the Spartans were trained to fight not to think. Lastly, what books and resources would you guys recommend. Did the History Channel do a good job.
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One funny thing. I saw it with a friend who was excited to see it but was afraid that they would make this into a support US troops thing. The last scene, he thought that is what they were doing which was wrong. I worry about how many people will interpret that scene as PRO U.S. war because they don’t know the history after the battle.
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[llayne]

Everything being said, I' am happy with the film and they did a good job. They ****ed up Alexander, which should be a story that is ****ed up poof. Troy I was only lukewarm on. I really can’t believe how many great historical stories haven’t been told or that have been told, but not well.

[Crushaholic]

Anybody who interprets this as a commentary on current events is reaching a bit. Put down the newspaper and just be entertained for two hours...

[TomServo]

the more i watched the "300" stuff on the history channel an such, the more i was impressed by "Black Hawk Down". we "only" lost 19 soldiers and put 1000-10,000 bodies on the other side? Plus our guys werent in on the "warrior cult" thing makes it all the more impressive.

[CHANGSTER]

Saw it on an IMAX screen. Worth the extra few bucks if you have one near you. AWESOME movie.

[Pendejo]

Saw it on an IMAX screen. Worth the extra few bucks if you have one near you. AWESOME movie.

Where'd you go to see it?

[elsid13]

Holy cow... Can you believe that this guy is Xerxes?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/charlie_s_angels__full_throttle/rodrigo_santoro/charliepre2.jpg

Rodrigo Santoro

This is how all the actors got in shape. IT IS INSANE WORKOUT
From mens health and there is video
http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=guy.wisdom&category=life.lessons&conitem=de42ad5c08450110VgnVCM10000013281eac____

"To become King Leonidas, Butler, who by his own admission was in less- than-ideal shape when he was tapped for the starring role in 300, spent 4 months transforming both his body and his mind. Early on, it became an all-consuming task. That's because the intense training required to build a warrior's physique -- aesthetically and functionally -- simultaneously cultivated a warrior's mentality. Or maybe it was vice versa.

Either way, it's the reason Butler enlisted the help of Mark Twight, a former world-class mountain climber who, based on personal experience, believes in training as if your life depends on it. In fact, Twight would argue that a good workout should make you feel almost queasy upon hearing what lies ahead. For example, to hasten Butler's mind-body transformation, he created what he calls the "300-rep Spartan workout." (Trust us, 100 reps is plenty hard.) (*2) It goes like this: Without resting between exercises, Butler performs 25 pullups, 50 deadlifts with 135 pounds, 50 pushups, 50 jumps on a 24-inch box, 50 floor wipers (*3), 50 single-arm clean-and-presses using a 36-pound kettle bell, and 25 more pullups. All this, in addition to utilizing other unconventional yet equally taxing training methods, such as tire flipping and gymnastics-style ring training. Sound like hell? It is. In fact, upon receiving his marching orders for a Spartan workout, one of Butler's costars told Twight, "It feels like you just killed my dog."

Five weeks before the cameras were to roll, Butler took on extra sessions with a Venezuelan bodybuilder named Franco LiCastro in order to exaggerate the physique he was after. "I wanted to look really strong," says Butler. "I've seen so many actors play these kinds of roles, and you see all this equipment on either a big belly or skinny little arms." It worked in more ways than one: On-screen, the bearded actor lords over the battlefield like testosterone incarnate, with the steely gaze, cobblestone abs, and broad, chiseled shoulders you suspect one would need to command 300 men to their slaughter."

[CHANGSTER]

Where'd you go to see it?

Actually watch it at an Edwards in Irvine cause I was up there at the time. Not sure if they had it showing somewhere in SD.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Anybody who interprets this as a commentary on current events is reaching a bit. Put down the newspaper and just be entertained for two hours...

On that note, anyone looking to Hollywood to provide them with any perspective in regard to politics needs to have their head examined.

[epicSocialism4tw]

On-screen, the bearded actor lords over the battlefield like testosterone incarnate, with the steely gaze, cobblestone abs, and broad, chiseled shoulders you suspect one would need to command 300 men to their slaughter."

Hilarious!

Okay...anyone else find that statement hilarious?

[Rock Chalk]

I liked it.

There were a great many details left untold but Pez said it right, you cant do much in 2 hours. This sort of movie would have been best served as a 6 part mini-series.

One glaring and truly unforgiveable omissions is the dreadlocks. Spartan's wore their hair in long locks that flowed out under their helmet giving them a very beastly appearance that instilled dread in their enemies. The term dreadlocks comes from the Spartan hairstyles.

There were only a few moments that stir you but they were good moments. When that Persian says "How dare this woman speak to me as if she were a man" and she retorts "Thats because Spartan women are the only women to give birth to real men", that was just good stuff there.

I did like how they depicted Leonidas sending Herodotus off so that the story could be told, nailing the point home to a confident Xerxes who was sure no one would ever remember those brave men.

Battle scenes were top notch. Story was lacking but, honestly, look into your heart and ask yourself how much of a story you were expecting when the premise for the movie is 300 Spartans against a million Persians? (WHo laughed when Leonidas asked those Arcadians their professions and then asked the Spartans their professions? Haha).

[llayne]

What did the Spartians say about their profession? War?

[Rock Chalk]

Soldiers. Or rather, they did their little soldier chant like the Marine "Whoo rah!"

[bpc]

THought the movie was great but I'm not a historian nor do I look to overthink character development. If this movie was about a character, it would be called "king leonidas" not 300 which is a famous battle and I thought they did well to deliver that story to an audience. I will defeinitely own this movie. Leonidas' character is portrayed well and stands up well next to characters who have been played recently such as Achilles (brad pitt), Hector (eric bana), Decius Meridius Maximus Ulpianus (russell crow), and King Arthur (Clive Owen).

Movie was excellent especially if you

[Rock Chalk]

I agree bpc. Well, I dont agree that Gerrard Butler stands up to Crow's rendition of Maximus or Bana's rendition of Hector (which was superior to Pitt's portrayal of Achilles IMNSHO), but for the part of the story that the movie focused on, I though he did a fine job.

SO much could have been told, but since this essentially was just about the battle of Thermopolyae itself, it didnt need to go into the whole backstory. Now, that would be an epic movie to do that, but IMO, would also require about 6 hours of movie time to get through effectively.

[BroncoBuff]

There's a very similar historical recreation movie called "Zulu" starring a young Michael Caine as one of about 100 British troops who held out against I guess about 5000 Zulu tribesmen. The 1960s production values probably leave much to fanboy desires for blood and gore ... but as I recall it was damn good. Nothing about red sauce or pasta, though.











BTW - anybody on this board is automatically a 'fanboy' ... :Broncos:

[bpc]

I agree bpc. Well, I dont agree that Gerrard Butler stands up to Crow's rendition of Maximus or Bana's rendition of Hector (which was superior to Pitt's portrayal of Achilles IMNSHO), but for the part of the story that the movie focused on, I though he did a fine job.

SO much could have been told, but since this essentially was just about the battle of Thermopolyae itself, it didnt need to go into the whole backstory. Now, that would be an epic movie to do that, but IMO, would also require about 6 hours of movie time to get through effectively.

I agree that the character does not have as much depth. I think from the pure leadership standpoint or as a great fighter... he gives you the same feeling.

Interesting to see who would win in battle between these "heroes" like achilles, arthur, maximus or leonidas.

I am already hearing that a sequel/prequel is going to be in the works for a spinoff.

[El Guapo]

you guys are hilarious. For those of you saying that there wasn't enough character development perhaps you should take a moment and read the graphic novel. The movie follows the novel precisely, which is what it was meant to do.

[Chris]

Zulu is a great movie.

So was this...I really enjoyed it. Zack Snyder chose to be completely faithful to the source material and it worked.

Could it have been a better movie? Yes...but he made the movie he wanted to make.

[anthonypacino]

Wow, that flick was simply bad ass. Every girl in the theatre got pregnant just by watching that movie. Synder was true to the source entire shots of the film were perfect matches to panels of artwork by Frank Miller. Synder's next project: Alan Moore's Watchmen. Apparently in the R-rated trailer for 300 floating around on the internet there is a breif test shot of Rorshach from the book.

[Rock Chalk]

There's a very similar historical recreation movie called "Zulu" starring a young Michael Caine as one of about 100 British troops who held out against I guess about 5000 Zulu tribesmen. The 1960s production values probably leave much to fanboy desires for blood and gore ... but as I recall it was damn good. Nothing about red sauce or pasta, though.










BTW - anybody on this board is automatically a 'fanboy' ... :Broncos:

Zulu was a good flick.

But the historical significance of that battle pales in comparison.

[Rock Chalk]

After the horror that was Alexander....I refuse to see this movie until someone validates its ungayness.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

No gayness.

Well, the Spartans were scantily clad but this is because of the graphic novel itself. They actually wore light armor historically. I think Frank Miller's interpretation had them scantily clad to reveal that they were all physical specimens. "Perfect" soldier bodies that embodied all of what Sparta was about.

No faggy **** though, not even hints of it.

[El Guapo]

Wow, that flick was simply bad ass. Every girl in the theatre got pregnant just by watching that movie. Synder was true to the source entire shots of the film were perfect matches to panels of artwork by Frank Miller. Synder's next project: Alan Moore's Watchmen. Apparently in the R-rated trailer for 300 floating around on the internet there is a breif test shot of Rorshach from the book.

Wow, awesome! Im in the middle of reading "Watchmen" right now. THAT will be awesome. :yayaya:

[RhymesayersDU]

300 was bad ass.

[GoHAM]

The way movie previews work is this:

The movie theater receives the print in 2-3 cannisters, containing anywhere from 5-10 reels of film. Inside the cannisters are included all of the "approved" trailers (ones that are either associated with the distributor or paid money to be included), which can be anywhere from 1-15. Also, there is always one trailer "attached" to the print. For all intents and purposes, this is the one trailer that MUST be shown with the film. For 300, I believe the attached trailer was for The Reaping (Hilary Swank). Often, distributors will "request" (read: "demand") that another trailer be attached as well. In this case it was Ocean's 13. Any other trailers spliced to the print are made on a location by location basis. For my movie theater, we spliced the Spiderman 3 trailers, of course. Why Spiderman 3 wouldn't be on every other theater in the nation, I can't say.

Whoever the projectionist is that didn't put Spidey on the print isn't doing much to help business for his theater.

I don't think we got The Reaping, we got the Tarantino/Rodriquez "Grinderhouse" combo, Black Snake Moan, and Spidey 3.

Edit: And "Premonition" w/ Sandra Bullock.

[GoHAM]

I gotta say I was totally geeked to see this flick. Even packed up the kids to the babysitter and drove 90 miles to the nearest theater with the wife in tow.

I did not want to see the movie for it's historical accuracy nor for it's in depth character development nor for it's political commentary on today's society. I went to this movie to be entertained, to experience Frank Miller's vision on the big screen with full theater surround, to revel in blood, guts, decapitation, rivers of testoterone, lust inspiring nudity, never say die ideals and the essence of manhood.

This movie met my expectations and exceeded them.

The movie was awesome.

I too, had a chuckle when the Persian got kicked into the well for suggesting a nice alfredo sauce.

I've had that stupid "Red Sauce on Pasta" line going through my head for the past 3 days. Damn you Pezman!!

[GoHAM]

As far as the whole homophobe aspect, the only gay reference was to Athens and their peculiar love of boys. This just prior to the whole "pasta" issue.

[ant1999e]

I give it a -T- for Testostorone.

[Merlin]

No faggy **** though, not even hints of it.
However, the Spartan soldiers were reknown for being gay, and to reduce the only gay reference to the Greeks is not only historically innacurate, but it perpetuates a stupid myth about gays in the military. The fact remains that the Spartans are historically one of the toughest armies to ever roam the face of the earth...

PS I'm not suggesting that their sexual preferences only deserve focus or mention in the film, but if they are being totally misrepresented, which appears to be the case here, then it should be noted.

[Rascal]

Pretty sweet ass movie.

[Willynowei]

Went out to see the movie 8'oclock tonight, now its 1:30am because of the waiting and the sold out shows, had to hunt it down in a smaller theater.

Just wanted to say, it was one of the biggest disappointments I've ever sat through. Nearly fell asleep towards the end. Cinematography was probably best I've ever seen, but outside of that one aspect, just a total piece of junk.

Big fan turned hater, probably due to too much hype. The sex scenes were pure pornography and every person in the theater was cracking by the time the two went to their 8th ****ing position. Bad acting, nothing explained in an interesting way, everything had so much potential, they basically tried to kill it as much as possible.

If you think its worth it to sit through 1 and a half hour of boredom for 30 min of sweet killing scenes, that is fine, otherwise you should reconsider watching this movie at all.

[16-JakE-16]

Went out to see the movie 8'oclock tonight, now its 1:30am because of the waiting and the sold out shows, had to hunt it down in a smaller theater.

Just wanted to say, it was one of the biggest disappointments I've ever sat through. Nearly fell asleep towards the end. Cinematography was probably best I've ever seen, but outside of that one aspect, just a total piece of junk.

Big fan turned hater, probably due to too much hype. The sex scenes were pure pornography and every person in the theater was cracking by the time the two went to their 8th ****ing position. Bad acting, nothing explained in an interesting way, everything had so much potential, they basically tried to kill it as much as possible.

If you think its worth it to sit through 1 and a half hour of boredom for 30 min of sweet killing scenes, that is fine, otherwise you should reconsider watching this movie at all.
I wholly agree for sure

[Taco John]

Synder's next project: Alan Moore's Watchmen.


No friggen WAY!


I can't wait! I absolutely loved that graphic novel, BOTH times I read it. (thanks for the tip on that by the way)

[anthonypacino]

No friggen WAY!


I can't wait! I absolutely loved that graphic novel, BOTH times I read it. (thanks for the tip on that by the way)

Yeah, I was kinda dissappointed when I heard it was going to be a movie, knowing full well there is no way it could be transfered to screen in 2 hours. I was hoping for a HBO series like Band of Brothers was. 12 episodes but knowing that Synder is going to helm it I know he will do his best to keep the main part of the story intact.
ps. Your welcome for the tip, anytime I can suggest people to read comics is a good thing.

[bpc]

I love when movies on the Mane get overanalyzed to death.

Can't we just sit back and watch a sweet ass movie without saying "the king didn't get developed enough as a character!"

He was a f'n asskicker who didn't bow his principles to anybody or anything and he had an army who was equally as tough.

Who cares about historical inaccuracy? There were mutant creatures running around that Leonidas had to slay. No, I don't want to see a bunch of men gay it up on film. Sorry, I was perfectly fine watching the King's hot wife.

Just sit back and enjoy, this is a great movie that washes right over the top of you.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=bpc;1509798]I love when movies on the Mane get overanalyzed to death.

QUOTE]

I don't limit the over analyzation just to the mane. I am not a film sudent so my ideas of what is good don't always match up with the Pros. I just enjoy coming out of the theatre well entertained. I doubt many critics liked Caddyshack, Animal House, Blazing Saddles or Slap Shot when they came out but I can laugh over and over watching them. Same goes for quirkey movies I like like Blue Velvet, Fargo and Blood Simple.

[usedupbraids]

this movie was good n **** but the story line was knida suspect

[RhymesayersDU]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070312.jpg

[SouthStndJunkie]

I thought it was a damn good movie.

[Chris]

Every girl in the theatre got pregnant just by watching that movie.

hahahahahah

here is The Watchmen test shot

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/rorshach_badge.jpg

[-Slap-]

I haven't read any posts on this thread because I know there are spoilers, but I'm going to dodge out of work a couple hours early to check it out tomorrow.

:)

[-Slap-]

I'm very concerned The Watchmen will suck. The project bounced all over the place, which is never a good sign. The sheer sprawling scope of the film would require a deft hand and large budget anyway, and we're going to get some third-choice hack with no money instead.

Look at this from IMDB:


Sam Hamm wrote an unused screenplay.


During early development in the late 1980s, mainly focused around the screenplay by Samm Hamm, early casting rumors included Robin Williams as Rorschach and Sigourney Weaver as Silk Spectre. Eventually, the project was shelved, due in large part to major script departures from the source material, particularly in the third act. Hamm's ending involved a time-travel plot concerning the character of Dr. Manhattan - an element probably invented to make up for the omission of the extremely violent ending of the graphic novel.


Terry Gilliam considered directing this film as early as 1989, but after several unsatisfactory drafts of the screenplay, decided the material unfilmable as a feature production. Gilliam has said he would consider directing it as a twelve hour miniseries.


Darren Aronofsky was going to direct the film but dropped out after scheduling conflicts with _Fountain, The (2005)_ .


In 2004, Paul Greengrass was attached as a director, a script was written and conceptual work had begun when Warners suddenly decided to put the movie on hold for the time being. A short time after that Paul Greengrass left the project to work on the movie "United 93" instead.


How frigging horrendously bad would this movie be with Robin Williams as Rorschach?

[epicSocialism4tw]

I give it a -T- for Testostorone.


That's the best review yet.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I haven't read any posts on this thread because I know there are spoilers, but I'm going to dodge out of work a couple hours early to check it out tomorrow.



But who's going to wear the Mickey Mouse costume while you're out? ;)

[-Slap-]

But who's going to wear the Mickey Mouse costume while you're out? ;)

They usually promote one of the Dwarfs and go with six for the afternoon.

[Pezman]

Slappy, IMO only your epic beatdown of Mock was a better on-screen asskicking. You'll love it! Trust me.

Just be sure to yell out Red Sauce On Pasta! Ha!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/ap_en_mo/iran300_movie_2

Iranians outraged by `300' movie By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 41 minutes ago



TEHRAN, Iran - The hit American movie "300" has angered Iranians who say the Greeks-vs-Persians action flick insults their ancient culture and provokes animosity against Iran.

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"Hollywood declares war on Iranians," blared a headline in Tuesday's edition of the independent Ayende-No newspaper.

The movie, which raked in $70 million in its opening weekend, is based on a comic-book fantasy version of the battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C., in which a force of 300 Spartans held off a massive Persian army at a mountain pass in Greece for three days.

Even some American reviewers noted the political overtones of the West-against-Iran story line — and the way Persians are depicted as decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.

In Iran, the movie hasn't opened and probably never will, given the government's restrictions on Western films, though one paper said bootleg DVDs were already available.

Still, it touched a sensitive nerve. Javad Shamghadri, cultural adviser to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said the United States tries to "humiliate" Iran in order to reverse historical reality and "compensate for its wrongdoings in order to provoke American soldiers and warmongers" against Iran.

The movie comes at a time of increased tensions between the United States and Iran over the Persian nation's nuclear program and the Iraq war.

But aside from politics, the film was seen as an attack on Persian history, a source of pride for Iranians across the political spectrum, including critics of the current Islamic regime.

State-run television has run several commentaries the past two days calling the film insulting and has brought on Iranian film directors to point out its historical inaccuracies.

"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling or humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and killing people," Ayende-No said in its article Tuesday.

"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and civilization before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats against Iran," it said.

Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is "serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will "prompt a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and Europe will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."

[-Slap-]

Like its our fault their pansy Persian ancestors weren't better fighters.

[anthonypacino]

I'm very concerned The Watchmen will suck. The project bounced all over the place, which is never a good sign. The sheer sprawling scope of the film would require a deft hand and large budget anyway, and we're going to get some third-choice hack with no money instead.

Look at this from IMDB:


Sam Hamm wrote an unused screenplay.


During early development in the late 1980s, mainly focused around the screenplay by Samm Hamm, early casting rumors included Robin Williams as Rorschach and Sigourney Weaver as Silk Spectre. Eventually, the project was shelved, due in large part to major script departures from the source material, particularly in the third act. Hamm's ending involved a time-travel plot concerning the character of Dr. Manhattan - an element probably invented to make up for the omission of the extremely violent ending of the graphic novel.


Terry Gilliam considered directing this film as early as 1989, but after several unsatisfactory drafts of the screenplay, decided the material unfilmable as a feature production. Gilliam has said he would consider directing it as a twelve hour miniseries.


Darren Aronofsky was going to direct the film but dropped out after scheduling conflicts with _Fountain, The (2005)_ .


In 2004, Paul Greengrass was attached as a director, a script was written and conceptual work had begun when Warners suddenly decided to put the movie on hold for the time being. A short time after that Paul Greengrass left the project to work on the movie "United 93" instead.


How frigging horrendously bad would this movie be with Robin Williams as Rorschach?

Oh yeah that would not have been good. AHnold the Governator was at one time also linked to the film to play Dr. Manhatten. Lots of these comic book properties get tossed around for years before the film comes out, the last Superman film at one time had Nic Cage as the lead with Lex Luthor being his Kryptonian brother, and Tim Burton's version was more like Edward Sissorhands with a cape. I wasn't a huge fan of Superman Returns but it was better than any of those versions. Sam Hamm wrote Batman 1-2 with Burton directing.
I still think the best way to translate Watchmen to the screen would be a HBO series then it could also be set in 85. Alan Moore has his name removed from any of his works that have made it to the screen, From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (a utter slaughter of the source material), V for Vendetta. I know he won't be involved or give his blessing to any type of film or TV show.

[-Slap-]

I still think the best way to translate Watchmen to the screen would be a HBO series then it could also be set in 85. Alan Moore has his name removed from any of his works that have made it to the screen, From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (a utter slaughter of the source material), V for Vendetta. I know he won't be involved or give his blessing to any type of film or TV show.

V for Vendetta amazed me by not sucking. In my opinion, Alan Moore was the best and most original voice in comic books ever. His work on Swamp Thing, Hellblazer, Watchmen and Miracle Man are benchmarks for the industry. How sad to see his work butchered over and over again. Even Lovecraft and Stephen King have been treated better by other mediums.

[broncs2bowl]

I saw it, it was a very good movie

[anthonypacino]

V for Vendetta amazed me by not sucking. In my opinion, Alan Moore was the best and most original voice in comic books ever. His work on Swamp Thing, Hellblazer, Watchmen and Miracle Man are benchmarks for the industry. How sad to see his work butchered over and over again. Even Lovecraft and Stephen King have been treated better by other mediums.
For years I have been trying to find a "affordable" way of getting his run on Miracle Man and with all the law suits no re-prints or collections of any kind have seen the bookshelves. I am a fan of most of Moore's stuff. I didn't get into Hellblazer (Constatine for the movie) or Swamp Thing alot when I was younger I was strictly a capes and mask kind of guy, Watchmen was ahead of me when it first came out in 85' I was only 9 as well as V, but his work he did on a few Superman stories was great and I have grown into more of his stuff the older I have got. Lots of fanboys still complain that he ripped off Watchmen from either a old Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode but I still love the book. (based on old Charloten comics)

[-Slap-]

People are mad because he took a general plot idea and brilliantly expanded upon it. Intellectually hostile perspective.

Miracle Man was based on this unbelievably bad British comic from the 50s called Marvel Man. The name was changed for rather obvious reasons. It was eye-opening to me because it showed me a talented enough writer could take any character and make them interesting. Just as a bad writer can render the best characters inert, Alan Moore can take the most preposterous characters and make them seem real.

The most impressive thing about Miracle Man was the way Moore realistically described and portrayed the extremely dire consequences suffered by the surrounding environment if two super powered beings did battle in a crowded metropolitan area.

[Gcver2ver3]

Just saw the movie....it was friggin great...period

[anthonypacino]

People are mad because he took a general plot idea and brilliantly expanded upon it. Intellectually hostile perspective.

Miracle Man was based on this unbelievably bad British comic from the 50s called Marvel Man. The name was changed for rather obvious reasons. It was eye-opening to me because it showed me a talented enough writer could take any character and make them interesting. Just as a bad writer can render the best characters inert, Alan Moore can take the most preposterous characters and make them seem real.

The most impressive thing about Miracle Man was the way Moore realistically described and portrayed the extremely dire consequences suffered by the surrounding environment if two super powered beings did battle in a crowded metropolitan area.
Yeah Miracle Man was a British rip off of Captain Marvel (Shazam) from Fawcett Comics, a boy says a magic word KIMOTA for Marvel Man (Shazam for Cpt. Marvel) and gains super powers he even had the supporting cast like Cpt. Marvel did, but like you said Moore took it way deeper than that turning his kid sidekick against him. Do you own that story arch?

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Yeah Miracle Man was a British rip off of Captain Marvel (Shazam) from Fawcett Comics, a boy says a magic word KIMOTA for Marvel Man (Shazam for Cpt. Marvel) and gains super powers he even had the supporting cast like Cpt. Marvel did, but like you said Moore took it way deeper than that turning his kid sidekick against him. Do you own that story arch?

Yeah, I've got them boxed up in my garage somewhere.

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Loved the Queen.

Thought the choreographing of the dance scenes that were passed off a battle scenes was great.

I would have called the movie "Blood Dance"

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My buddy out in LA sent me a bootleg of 300, which will run on a loop in my house for the next several days. He also sent me season one and two of Justice League Unlimited. It looks like he had to burn them onto six discs, so he must really want me to check it out.

Pacino and Old Dude, what can you tell me?

[anthonypacino]

My buddy out in LA sent me a bootleg of 300, which will run on a loop in my house for the next several days. He also sent me season one and two of Justice League Unlimited. It looks like he had to burn them onto six discs, so he must really want me to check it out.

Pacino and Old Dude, what can you tell me?

Good stuff, not as dark as the animated Batman but it's not as light as the Superman toon either. It's a nice inbetween, pretty cool to see lots of DC heroes that have never been animated before but at the same time kinda sucks not have the magnificent 7 represented as well. They did a fair job adapting a few storylines from the old days you'll remember them when you watch. I think each season is 3 discs. I too have a boot of 300 for a few weeks now, it's pretty crappy but it'll hold me over until July when the special 2-disc comes out, I doubt I'll have my HD or Blue Ray by then though.